Topic: ムノカミMunokami.com, a strategic online multiplayer bitcoin gambling made in Japan (Read 551 times)

You are definitely right on this one.We dont know if this one is the part of the team or simply just passing on those informations on this forum

on which it would really be that much of relevant on making out complaints because this wouldnt change nothing but if he's the owner

or part of it then he is at least aware on what people been babbling and been complaining here all about.

If you missed the post couple above you then i will quote it for you mate so the OP explanation and proofs are posted above , and also for others to take a chance looking so clarity will come.

maybe this part can explain something that others missed to check.
but of course the thing between Yoshie and the site must be cleared and settled in right manner.

Seems interesting and unique, would appreciate if there would be some simple 'how to' information posted on the website for general public to get the overall idea of the game. Do you plan to add more crypto? How can I validate the fairness of game? Also a community chat groups like telegram and discord where players can interact with each other would be nice to have.

since the OP is not the direct owner of this gaming site, hard to get direct answers from the developers of this game. so if the OP wants to continue promoting this site, i believe it is better for him to ask them to create an official account in the forum. otherwise, i don't think complaining here or raising issues would be a productive one as the OP may just be relaying message to them.
direct communication to the site owners is still a better way to address issues and concerns.

They should settle those issues first before proceeding because leaving pending issues or complaints would totally be making your site or business to be looking badly which it isnt really good for a business to have.

Later on the should fixed all the necessary things to give out good and smooth user experience if they do really like to get some marketshare on this place.

Since they are going for international then they should be aware on it at least.

I agree that these are very strong words and in my opinion they are also completely inadequate to the situation. It is possible, however, that this is due to the fact that it is not a professional translation. It's possible that in Japanese this information is more diplomatic, and just the translation made it so "brute".

I don't like the legal threat that they post after an account was blocked they should just mention the reason why the account was blocked and the remedies not threatening with a legal suit, this is actually a project worthy of a thread in the scam accusation, they may have not yet scam people, but there's a warning sign already, we should be wary of the signs, we are talking of depositing money, if we are going to deposit money they should have 100% of our trust.

Agree that it is quite a strange situation that YOSHII's account has been blocked twice. However, this is only one such case. I think it is too early to make such serious accusations of scam. After all, it could be just a coincidence (I admit it's strange, but it's still not clear evidence).

it was mentioned that this game is played in japan only before it is introduced internationally. so there maybe bugs or issues that need to be fixed and the OP said that it has been fixed already. so in case, they should refund yoshie's funds at the very least. but don't know how their support is acting on this matter. for now, i think even if this game is quite interesting as we are seeing a new game, better let it go for the moment, let the site established its reputation first. but if you do want to try it out, just send small amt of funds so you will not be disappointed if you encounter problems here

I'm sure they will not block your account if they know you come to review and test the site but now that they know it, and you posted your experience here, they unblock your account, so what about the other who will play that does not have an account here in Bitcointalk, it's good that they are exposed this early to avoid members of this forum from trying the site.

The website is not new, as it is said that it has been running for about a year and a half, so such errors should not happen. If any sensors are too fragile, they should be fixed a long time ago. Two blockades in such a short time are a very strange coincidence. Every gambler likes risk, but using this website makes the risk of losing money extremely high.

They should prove out that it was something a mistake or really have some legit issues on such blockage and not just doing that intentionally or else they would be fucking up their reputation on first time they had launched on here.

Every gambling site does start on being new and possibly could face up some issues initially and lets just wait on how they would
try to vlarify things up.

Even myself would really have doubts on making out deposits even though this one looks interesting.

Because he said PUBLICLY without solid evidence that this game is a scam and that I share scam with no real proof! Why didn't he send me a message before making these false accusations PUBLICLY without solid evidence? It's shameful to say that, I have a lot of respect for Mr. YOSHIE, I know he is a serious member here and a good person but I have to defend myself PUBLICLY with solid evidence against these false accusations. Saying such words is a serious attack on my honor (it’s very serious here in Japan to accuse someone without real proof), I’m saddened and shocked to read that he say that I’m a scammer when it is not true!!

He is the only one who had a bad experience here with connection problems with this new international version because he is outside of Japan and directly he dares to PUBLICLY say that this game is a scam, that I am a scammer without solid evidence... it is unacceptable to say that. I’m disappointed and very offended.

As no one here has created an account and played at this game, I will prove to you once again that the game is not a scam: I created a new account on the game and I used only free offered satoshi and I played strategically about ten matchs to try to reach the minimum amount of bitcoin cash (546 SATOSHI) to make a withdrawal request on my real bitcoin cash wallet.

As you can here, it’s my new account. I played about ten matches (exactly 13 games) and I won 599 SATOSHI in total (with victories and defeats).

https://i.imgur.com/5JegNoZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KqHo2uu.jpg

Now, I ask for a withdraw to my real bitcoin cash wallet. I created a new to be sure because I would like to be like a new member.

https://i.imgur.com/JQBiYNu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cGm6TPx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Oafa6aP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IfYurbH.jpg

And as you can see, some time later, I received my 599 SATOSHI to my real bitcoin cash wallet!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/Ot7Vd7W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vdBEPcW.jpg

You can see by yourself the transaction here on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network. Here is the transaction : https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4176ce48285ca4b81ddcff0bb6c592e0921598a694d71508e8fe54b5373f7e34

https://i.imgur.com/6x0lY2k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BhxSxqQ.jpg

And here is the email that the game sends after each withdraw request

https://i.imgur.com/hU5mEhc.jpg

So now, where is the scam with this free bitcoin game ? It's the same regardless of the amount in bitcoin cash.

In conclusion, I didn't pay any bitcoin (because it's a free game!), I played only with free offered satoshi and won 599 SATOSHI in total of bitcoin cash and I withdrew it into my bitcoin cash wallet. I received it and you have the proof on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network that I received these 599 satoshi. I have made many withdrawals and I have received them all. It's the same for all of my friends who play at this game here in Japan. They make withdrawals with much larger amounts such as 5,000 yen ¥ = $50 or 10,000 yen ¥ = $100 without any problems!

Now with this solid evidence, please explain to me where the scam is with this game? Is this game a scam? NO! You have to pay NOTHING to play at this game, it’s a free bitcoin game and you can withdraw you wins to your real bitcoin cash wallet. I'm going to be crazy, in what language should I say it? Maybe in Japanese ? lol このゲームのどこに詐欺があるのか

I'm sorry for my anger, I can't let people accuse me so easily (and without solid evidence) of sharing scams without defending myself. I was publicly humiliated. I have all the evidence here that this game isn’t a scam. I’m a nice person but accusing me of sharing scams is too much for me. I’m very angry because I can't accept this!

This game hardly does any advertising here in Japan, it doesn't need it, it's the people who talk about it because it's fun. Except the advertisement in a local TV, I was surprised about that and I would be surprised if they advertise internationally. There is no real communication or marketing.
As soon as I saw that this game had launched a new international version (in several languages) at the beginning of December and accessible outside Japan, I wanted to share it here. I don't know if it's the final international version or if they are still launching but considering the connection problems of Mr. YOSHIE, I think they are still in development...Maybe I should have waited before publishing the game here... There has been no communication from them, the company that manages the game is discreet. They do not advertise or make bonus offers. This game is totally different, it's something new (or strange) but what's makes it successful here. Will it have the same success internationally? I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no ^^ I also see recently on the game that I play against new French and American players.

It is nice to know, if that’s the case. I guess it can be assumed that they are still on the process of delivering services smoothly on an international level, if they really did good within Japan. I must say that the management must have designed and tried out first their international operation before launching it officially here then.

Instead of putting the BLAME on Yoshie's why not communicate with him  directly so there will be closure on your both ends and the case will be settled.

I Believe that Yoshie will address this case if you will clearly point things in him instead of  tackling here in your ANN Thread.

Yoshie is a fair account and if he finds this is about on His part surely this will end up good.

I talked to all of my friends (who play at this game) about YOSHIE’s experience and none of them say that this game is a scam. They laughed at me, this game has been serious (since its launch) for almost 1.5 years between students here in Japan and they still pay their withdrawals each time. That’s not a scam, they showed me they withdraw and their bitcoin cash wallet and they receive all of them. I also made an other withdraw of 1 558.3¥ and I receive it on my bitcoin cash wallet, you can see it here :

https://i.imgur.com/xKgDc8y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VP7F1U8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AFqiiIS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PNzGTIM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N5OeaMv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b7gOWBK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xtr5ati.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BaV13Dc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WYLiczO.jpg

Considering what I read above, what happened to YOSHIE is obviously a mistake on their part with the launch of their new international version in the beginning of December, it seems that they had problems with the banning of IP addresses outside Japan, it can happen and the problem was solved and his account has been unlocked. This is proof that the company that manages the game is keeping track of what is going on.

The first versions of the game were blocked internationally by IP except in Japan and YOSHIE is obviously not from Japan, that's maybe the problem he had at the beginning with the game. As I said, it's a new international version that has just been launched in early December 2021, they probably had problems with the players outside Japan but it's fixed now.



You didn’t answer to my previous questions. Have you sent money on this game ? How much exactly did you win ? Have you contacted the game support about your connection problems ? You said that you blocked the game yourself and never back on it again… Sorry my friend, I know that you are considered as a serious person here in this forum but I can't let you say that this game is a scam or I share scam when it isn't, you need to show to us solid proof. The game has an excellent reputation here in Japan between students since his beginning (July/August 2020), it’s not a scam, it’s impossible! The game is free! Where is the scam if you don't pay anything ?

And even the money you can send must not exceed ¥500 = $5. Sending money is a new feature on this new international version due to players' demand, it didn't exist before. Basically, this game is free, you don't have to do a deposit to play. Once again, where is the scam?

To detect a scam, it's simple : when you sent money on a site, this disappear or bans your account without any good reason, you try to contact them after a problem but they don’t response to you or they don't pay you back which is not the case here. The game support contacted you, acknowledged their problem, follows what is going on and unblocked your account and they compensated you with 5$ to apologize. Unfortunately, you blocked the game yourself because you didn't like your first experience with it, Ok I understand that, it's your right but don't say that this game is a scam or that I share scams when it's not true. You can said that the game is bad, you don't like it but you don't have the right to say that it's a scam when it's totally false. As a Japanese, my honor is violated by such words because I am the one who shared the game here. Sorry but it's not honest from you, I can't let you publicly tell lies about me so easily when it's not true. I have all the evidence here that this game is not a scam and that it pays well via bitcoin cash.

Is there anyone here who has been really scammed by this game?
Has anyone here made a deposit on this game, get been banned for no good reason? and it hasn't been refunded ? or the game support does not respond?

That's the big problem on internet, there are plenty of people who have played at this game, have received their bitcoin cash without any problems so they don't say it but if one person has a small connection problem like YOSHEE’s case since it is outside Japan (and in addition he blocks himself the game) and said that is a scam with no real proof, everyone will say it's a scam, that he was scammed (and we don’t know if he has done a deposit) and was banned without any reason, the support of the game does not answer (whereas he didn't contact them),...all this is wrong and no one here will play when it's a free game. I don't understand why you said it's scam because you don’t have to deposit any money on this game to play, it’s a free game, you play with free satoshi. Tell me how can this game be a scam since it is a free game where you don't have to do a deposit to play???

You will see with time that this game is not a scam, it is only at its international launch...when it will be known internationally like here in Japan, no one will dare to say that this game is a scam

I address myself to all the other readers who read this topic and want to play and know if this game is a scam or not :
I think that the better solution to proof that this game isn't a scam is to try by yourself : register to this game, don’t sent any bitcoin on it, only play with free satoshi offered and when you have the minimum to sent to your wallet (546 SATOSHI) , then ask for a withdraw to your real bitcoin cash wallet and you’ll see if this game is a scam or not. If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the game support who is there for that.

I shared this game because I'm a simple player who liked it, it's fun, free and it's a hit here in Japan! That's why they are launching an international version. Everyone is playing it here without any problems. This game is a pride for Japanese people like me and when I saw that they were launching this international version in early December, I thought why not share it on this international bitcoin forum. I will never share a scam and I have never asked to pay for the game or to get any bonuses. Besides, this game does not offer any bonuses and it is not a gambling or a game of chance or an online casino game or a sports betting site or a lottery because there is no chance possible, you play online against others real players. There is no money to send (or anything else) to play and this is why this game is totally different and what makes its success here in Japan.


This game isn’t a gambling game, it's an online multiplayer strategy game with bitcoin and it has already received very good certifications from the authorities here in Japan to be launched. If this game were a gambling or a scam, it would already be banned here in Japan for almost 1.5 years because gambling or scam are strictly prohibited. Japanese authorities don't mess around with online gambling or scam. Here, there is even a commercial that aired on local TV for this game not long ago!

I don't want to defend them, because the situation is quite strange indeed. If an account was blocked only once, I would say it could have been a coincidence, but two blockades in such a short time make it a very seriously suspicious situation. Of course, it could still be a coincidence and they were actually just mistakes, but anyway it certainly makes me not make any deposit here.

Seems to me they can't afford to pay the winners. You are a good customer as long as you are losing money but god forbid if you somehow managed to win, then... KYC AML FBI AMC GME bam they'll throw everything they got. A trusted casino don't act this way. Only scammers do.

YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.

my experience is very bad knowing the Munokami.com gambling site, which I have ever known, proof, I already said on page 1,2 very bad, if you are the same as me as a player, useless to discuss, but you introduce us here the worst site, maybe not with you, it's very annoying for me, I'm having a problem that doesn't make any sense to me.

• Why did they suddenly block the account.
• They suddenly re-opened the account, what was that for, if they have blocked, is it because I haven't deposited.
• After I tried to bet there and won two hours later, I logged in again, they said your password is 8 characters, numbers and lowercase letters, what is that for.

Actually I have ignored and blocked the Munokami.com site and never visited it again.

Maybe the game isn't perverted for you but to me it is a misleading game, they can block accounts whenever they want, the weirdest experience.

Well the game is confusing, I don't really understand it much, but it strikes me that they have a somewhat strange security, if the account of a member of the forum was prohibited by IP, in my case I always connect from the IP of my smartphone with your data, and sometimes when I am at home with my PC, obviously the IPs are different, will a possible ban occur if I am connected from my smartphone if my PC is working in the background with the casino page active?
Thanks.

So you are not the owner of the site and just a regular player who often plays that game? I thought you were the owner so we asked you about @YOSHIE's problem. Maybe if you know the owner, you can invite him/her/they to come here and explain why that is happening so there is a clear explanation from the owner because that is too strange for us.

I think the demo version is not a waste of time because before a player deposits the money, they know what the game they will play and how to play correctly to see if they have a chance to win or luck. After all, that game is one of the gambling games based on luck.

I am curious if your friends have the same experience as YOSHIE and we will wait for the next from you.

Bad reports are already coming against this website, even they have remained silent without solving user problems. So before supporting them, their activities should be closely monitored. Because after reading your review, a new gambler may join this website and lose their money. Until they solve users' problems, we should refrain from giving them such positive reviews.

This is the first time I have seen this with this game. Here, we don’t see this game as a scam or it would have been banned a long time ago. The bitcoin you played is usually offered and small. Maybe it’s the launch of their new version with some bugs… I don’t know exactly. Is your account banned again? How much deposit did you pay and how much did you win/lost? Did you contact the game support for this ? it would be really surprising if this game is a scam given the very good reputation it has here in Japan for almost a year and a half. I have done a lot of withdraw to my real bitcoin cash wallet since one year and I have too done some deposit on it and I never had problem.


As I said, this game has a good reputation here between students and it would be very bad that it’s a scam since the money played is generally offered. Usually the scams are with big money and in addition, the possibility to make deposits is a new feature that did not exist in the old version. I’ve been playing it for almost 1 year and I’ve never had a problem. Has anyone here deposited money on the game and has been scamed ?

The demo version is a waste of time, you play against fake adversaries and displacements are random. No body play demo version. It’s really a pity that because of the bad experience of one user, everybody thinks it’s a scam and nobody plays it. You don’t have to deposit any bitcoin to play, just play with the offered Satoshi and transfer your winnings to your wallet

I’m very shocked to hear this. I’m not promoting any scam, it’s just a fun game that we play here in Japan between students, I have been playing this game for almost a year now (principally on the old version), I have always received my withdraw and no student here has complained that it is a scam. I know a lot of students who got their bitcoin won on their wallet like I did with no problem. Also, there is a contact support but I don’t understand, is there anyone here who has been scammed? I understand that my first post was very bad and not professional (I’m not an advertising promoter for this game, I’m just a simple player) and I never said to do a deposit, just only play with offered bitcoin cash. This game is fun

I would like to know if anyone here has made a deposit on this game (or made a withdrawal request) and has been banned or scammed? and especially for @YOSHIE, how much did you lost ? how did it go? Can you explain with details & proof, I will talk to some friends (who play at this game) tomorrow about your experience, for sure. Thank you



Thank you my friend. I'm trying to understand what happened to @YOSHIE, it’s why I would like to know more about his experience and I’ll talk to friends tomorrow about YOSHIE’s experience. I’m very surprised as I’m a regular player of this game. I never had any problems, they are very serious.

The demo version is a waste of time, I don’t know why the game has add this demo version, it was not there in the old version. I have the impression that in any game/program, every time there is an update, it is naked lol   The good thing about this game is that it’s a online multiplayer game. There is no hazard or random displacement.


It’s what I did, I’m waiting the response of @YOSHIE about his experience.
For the problem, the best thing to do is to contact the help/support of the game. I’m just a simple player who love this game

I taught since you said you want to add something difference, it is going to be the errors you found on the platform, i a normal bases the graphics of the platform is good to me i not found anything complicating to the site because it takes me time to go through the platform verifying the scope of this one after the other but no errors, but i can not condemn your observations

Yes , YOSHIE"s question must be addressed completely and not just like what OP is doing answering partially and not addressing the main question.

Yeah it is New , yeah it is authentic Japanese game, but what happened to the banning from yoshies account?
what is the main reason why this happen when he does not violate any rules from your TOS?

Why is this happened that if you telling the truth that you not made a single mistake but they block your account
I think this site is a scam we need to be carefull and avoid this kind of untrustworthy sites.
Thanks god I did not registered yet because I am busy.
I like this game cause it is a multiplayer game but all of the sudden this is what I'm got if I continued to create an account. Wich is not good I think.
Thanks for sharing your experience about this game for sure many gamblers did not know yet bout this.

I guess @OP needs to explain what happened to @YOSHIE after he answered the question from other members because it is too strange and suspicious if the site can easily block an account, especially if @YOSHIE did not do something that broke the rule. I believe what @YOSHIE said, but it is too weird about his case once again.

My suggestion to @OP. I checked on your site, I see there is a button to Play Demo but we need to sign up or login so I suggest you let users/visitors Play Demo without signing up so they can feel and play the game before they decide to sign up. I just repeat what @RapTarX suggests because visitors will determine whether they want to sign up and stay at your site or move to another site.

All in all, welcome to Bitcointalk. Enjoy your stay here while you promote your site.

Well on top of your post OP responded , and i think lets wait for the complainant to respond also about what really happened and what will be the solution .
But yes this is not a good start in a Newly promoted kind of game in which majority of us are not familiar , also coming from an Newly created account makes this more suspicion in gamblers part.
Hope all will be settled as i find the game col to learn but the company is questionable .

We don't know on whats behind or motive on that kind of activity on which he do really pretend to be like and when issues arise then he do just washed hands?

You should at least make out some clarification for this one for us to be having some idea on whats going on or simply tell us something
about on this.

This is where we get confused, if you yourself are not responsible for losing someone's funds then why are you pretending to be promoting casinos and creating threads about casinos?

Aren't there two contradicting statements, you seem to be promoting a casino, but in the end you also don't know what to do when something like this happens? If you don't start, nothing will happen. It is not like that?

A lot of controversy to start advertising on Bitcointalk. I understand that in practice it is best to find and correct minor errors, but the ones that occur here don't seem small. I think you should verify a lot of things before you start promoting your or actually any project here.

so are you part of the site's team? why did you say contact them? it seems to me that you are just a player also of this game. i really thought that you are the owner of this japanese game. so would be hard for you to answer some questions if you are not the owner.
also, for those users who are interested to play, the OP already said that you can't deposit more than 5 bucks and just wait for the free yen. so for those who sent their deposits, i don't think the OP can help you as he is not the owner of the site.
with every new casino, it is always better to test with very small deposits so you will not feel screwed.

皆さん、こんにちは

Thank you all my friends for your responses and nice to meet you too, and sorry for my late answer, I wasn’t at home this weekend and I had a hard Monday ^^

I know that this game is difficult to understand in the beginning for non Japanese people, with no tutorials, no help, … nothing and I would like to apologize to you for my first post, it was very short, not clear at all and very bad. Honestly, I didn’t expect any answers ^^

Explanations

This bitcoin game is relatively new (< 1,5 year) and not known but it has some little local success here (between students) principally in Japan in the cities where I live (Yokohama 横浜 / Tokyo 東京). The first version was hidden and only available for Japanese’s students with specific access and there aren’t any official tutorials (or FAQ) that explain how to play, it’s only by word of mouth that we learn to play so I’ll try to do my best to explain to you how to play and what I learned.

Game’s explanations
In this game, each match is played with Bitcoin Cash and the goal’s game consists of predefining a movement of your principal character on an obstacle map with blocks. It’s look like a old game ^^

https://i.imgur.com/FSCRiHS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nhqKEZJ.jpg

If you are a bitcoin eater, your goal will be to catch as many bitcoin coins as possible with your chosen move. Each time you pick up a coin, you earn a small percentage of this coin. This percentage depends on the map and the number of adversaries.

If you are a Bitcoin coin, your goal will be to avoid being picked up by the coin eater with your previously chosen move. Each time another coin (not you but your fellow players) is eaten by the coin eater, you will earn a large percentage of bitcoin cash from the picked up coin.

Then you can transfer the Bitcoin Cash you’ve won to your Bitcoin Cash wallet.

Game’s explanations to start a training match (or demo match available in the home page) : it’s a match against fakes adversaries with random displacements, the bitcoin cash played is fictitious

You need to choose your character :  coin (left) or coin eater (right)

https://i.imgur.com/B3Tm59U.jpg

Once you have chosen your character type, you need to select the map you want to play on, your deposit, and the number of opponents (number of coins to catch).

https://i.imgur.com/IPYuRq7.jpg

Then comes the most important thing: the choice of your character’s movement

https://i.imgur.com/dXKXK5U.jpg

Of course, you don’t know what moves your opponents will choose… otherwise it’s too easy. There are many move strategies depending on the type of character, the type of map as well as the number of opponents to increase the probability of winning the game! You have to think carefully and set up movement tactics…

Note: for the training match, bitcoin cash are not real, adversaries are fake and displacements are random. Don’t waste your time to play training match, no body play these match. I don’t know why there is a demo match because it’s random and not useful, honestly it’s a waste of time.

Game’s explanations to start a real match (with real bitcoin cash) against real adversaries: It’s the same steps like start a training match but you have to wait until real adversaries join your match.

To start a real match, you have to go to your account, click on “play” button and click to “New Match” button

https://i.imgur.com/JrY1SVg.jpg

After that, you have to choose your map, your deposit and the adversaries number. There are 21 maps available. Each map has specifics parameters like the number of adversaries authorized, distribution of earnings, …

https://i.imgur.com/zFdUK0b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HkTuk4d.jpg

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For example, I’ll start a real match against 4 adversaries on the map Tokyo 東京 with a start deposit of 10 902 SATOSHI = 0.00010902 BCH ≈  5.63¥

There is a resume of your potential gains on the right screen. If I catch :

1 coin, I’ll win 0 SATOSHI (draw or tie match)
2 coin, I’ll win 0 SATOSHI (draw or tie match)
3 coin, I’ll win +1.64¥ for a total of 1.64¥ won
4 coin, I’ll win +4.77¥ for a total of 6.42¥ won
5 coin, I’ll win +42.93¥ for a total of 49.35¥ won

In resume : if I catch all the coins, it’s a strike and I’ll win 49.35¥. Of course, you can withdraw these BCH won to your real wallet.

If you click on the button on the right “show profits of each coins”, you’ll see the resume of the potential gains of the coin

If the eater coin (me in this match) catch :
1 coin, the remaining 4 coins will earn +2.47¥ for a total of 2.47¥ earned
2 coin, the remaining 3 coins will earn +4.11¥ for a total of 6.58¥ won
3 coin, the remaining 2 coins will earn +7.4¥ for a total of 13.98¥ won
4 coin, the remaining last coin will earn +19.08¥ for a total of 33.06¥ won

If the last coin is caught, he loose his profit and the eater coin does a strike and win all deposit of all players (49.35¥). The initial deposit of each coin is 9.87¥ (more than the deposit of the eater coin)

In the next step, you have to choose strategically your displacement. When other adversaries join your map, they will choose too a displacement for their character’s. Of course, you can’t know the displacements of other adversaries. Nobody knows the movements of other players except his own

https://i.imgur.com/teak0CA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oLQxM3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BmJYCUn.jpg

This match is now online, so you have to wait until real adversaries (others players) join your match. If you click on your match, you can see details about it like who play against you,…you can see the progress of your match.

The waiting time depend how many players are online, how many started match are online,…

https://i.imgur.com/zLPLVEy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KjkgOns.jpg

When your match is finished, you will receive a notification (by email, you can deactivate this option on your parameter’s account) and you can see your match.

https://i.imgur.com/yK4TAWY.jpg

As you can see at this match, I caught 2 coin so I win 0¥, it’s a draw match for me

https://i.imgur.com/c3JkjYP.jpg

The remaining 3 coins each earn ¥6.58

Game’s explanations to join a real match with real bitcoin cash against real adversaries:

To join a match, you have to go on your account, click on “play” button and click to “rejoin match” button. After that, you can choice a randomly online started match to join. If no match is found, it’s seems that no one has started a match so you have to start a match or wait for someone to start a match.

Each started match has a deposit to join it fixed by the coin eater when he started the match.

https://i.imgur.com/rBccN2C.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kSa7cMd.jpg

You can see who has join the match, where are all free and locked positions. A free position is an available position for you and a locked position it’s a position that is played by a player right now (< 15min)

https://i.imgur.com/O1a4hy2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QkqzGC9.jpg

You can see you gains on the right screen.

For example, in this started match, the deposit to join it is fixed to 0.2¥
If the eater coin catch :
1 coin, I’ll win +0.03¥ for a total of 0.03¥ won
2 coin, I’ll win +0.21¥ for a total of 0.24¥ won

You can choose a free place to lock it. When your place is locked, you have 15min to choose your displacement. When a place is locked, no one can use this place for a delay of 15 min. After this delay without choosing a displacement, your position will be unlocked and available for other players.

https://i.imgur.com/nO9r98T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/65aJYHa.jpg

After your confirmation, you must wait until others players join the match and you can see details of this match

https://i.imgur.com/KoYbIQc.jpg

When your match is finished, you receive a notification and you can see your match

https://i.imgur.com/kLYJZyw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HB5panG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Rve8vaZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EWgT8HW.jpg

As you can see, the eater coin was very smart with his move and he caught me and an other coin so I loose this match and my initial deposit of 0.2¥

Here is all the strategy of this game, there’s no hazard or randomly displacements with real match, the smartest guys will win most of the time and others will lost.

There are many strategies to increase the probability of wining depending on the map, the number of adversaries, …

Note : every 12 hours, if you bitcoin cash’s wallet is < 2.7¥ = 50 SATOSHI, you can get 50 SATOSHI to play. You don’t need to deposit or paid any bitcoin cash to play real match.

I advise you to don’t put a deposit on it, just play with offered satoshi and withdraw your gains to your real BCH wallet

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I will try to answer each of you ^^

I understand that it is very difficult to play this game without any tutorial. As I already said, there isn’t any tutorial even in Japanese, no official explanations or FAQ. I don’t know why. Here we explain the game by word of mouth ^^ or every one learn how to play by himself with no help. Students called this game : オタクゲーム (geek game) ^^

A good tip: if you are starting a match, choose the maximum movement time to save time before the coins have finished moving so you can catch them more easily at the end of your movement. If you’re a coin, go directly to the coin eater or always stay in the same place.

Have you try to play with your phone ?

I don’t know exactly why the game is only in BCH. I used to play only with satoshi offered but I advise you to don’t send any deposit, play only with free yen/satoshi offered and withdraw what you win

Thank you and yes, this game is 100% made in Japan ^^ Me too, I love multiplayer games for the same reasons.

The game has now translations. The old version was only in japanese

Exactly, each move must be calculated to increase his probability to win, it’s not a hazard game like most gambling. I don’t know if we can call this game a “gambling” or a “casino game”, it’s very different because there isn’t any hazard or FIAT currencies, it’s only with real bitcoin cash offered.

Yes, you’re right, as I already said, this game is new (< 1,5years). The first version was only available here in Japan for students of universities (with special access) and internationally/locally blocked but I don’t know exactly why, how & when. Maybe, in the beginning, it was an “hidden game” reserved for students and now this game wants to become international. This new version is very recent but I don’t have more information.

No, I just shared this fun game with you, I’m a simple player. A friend from my university showed me this game +-one year ago, how to have access and how to play. The old version was not open to every one like now with these little “help explanations” in all languages (and others news features). What we said to me about the game : it was made by a team of former gifted students : they are full stack engineers, they made a lot of money with their blockchain projects and they also have a lot of money because they invested in bitcoin/altcoins at the beginning (some of them are very big bitcoin/altcoin whales with tens of millions of dollars.) and now they have left Japan to offshore countries but I have no more information about them or their team / company. Here in Japan, nobody talk a lot, everyone is discreet ^^


You’re right, we must be very careful with gambling like this. Maybe you have done a mistake, I don’t know, I can’t help you but you can contact them or create a new account. However, I advise you to don’t push any deposit on this game and only play with offered yen ¥ . In my university, this game is played generally between students in lunch time (or inter-cours) for fun with a very small deposit and without putting any bitcoin cash or money on it. I have +- 1 000¥ sometime up to +-5 000¥  max in my wallet if I play and win a lot, not more because the deposit for started match are limited to max +-5¥. I know students who deposit money on it but it’s very small, you can’t deposit more that 500¥ =+-5$. The ability to make deposits is a new feature that did not exist in the first old version. You must wait to get offered yen. Here, this game is really used to play with little money for fun with friends and not to earn big money like casino gambling. Sometime, I withdraw my small profits to my BCH wallet to bought some cheap stuffs/food with them (with my bitcoin visa card) ^^

I hope I have answered your questions well and I'll respond to other tomorrow night, I'm so tired, it's very late here  ^^

I just have tried to check it out with demo but demo match requires a full registration which I guess a bit ridiculous. It would be great if users could have the demo version tried as guest. I was looking for something like that but I had to get back instantly aftet watching the registration page.

This is what I'm thinking too and then I saw Yoshie post about his account got blocked for an unknown reason. The owner probably want to trap the user fund and use the warning accusation to freeze the account without any reason. This website is red flag and the OP should be flag by now for promoting his scam website. Newbie might fall victim to his scheme since the idea is fresh and exciting coz this is the first time for a casino to offer this kind of gambling game. Good thing that there's many reputable user here that always trying new casino to give feedback and warn all the user. This is what I love about the forum.

Welcome to the Gambling Discussion forum

It seems that this game is easier to play on mobile than on computer screen. For now I will try to create an account and run the demo version of the game. It's quite exciting, like a classic game that presents a gaming atmosphere when we were still in 2000. The update allows us to bet with crypto. Very different from the games in other casinos. Even without betting on the kids, they also seem to be able to play.



Thanks for reminding us, I just played the demo version, but with the notice you gave I'm not going to continue.

Thank you for the advice and you have experimented so that we know the truth that this gambling site is indeed misleading and does not need to be visited again.
If no one complains of course some will make a deposit with this game trap, I suspect the OP for not being serious in handling this.

It's proof that @YOSHIE is already a victim.

Hello, the Bitcointalk community for gamblers I suggest never deposit or play on the Munokami.com gambling site, they are unfair and dishonest, if you make a deposit your money will be lost, your account will be automatically blocked.

Now it's happening again to me, this time in a different mode.
First: account is blocked for no reason.
Second: they reactivated my account with a $5 bonus in BCH.
Third: after I played with the bonus they gave me $5 and I won big.
Fourth: suddenly this happened, like the notification below, what the hell, misleading.


Munokami.com site is a scam site, they can block accounts whenever they want, if you win big, your money will disappear, avoid Munokami.com site, for your safety.

Thanks for the feedback on this casino game. It's such a helpful feedback and experience that you've got there since they really seems to be an attractive website.
With such random ban that they do to the accounts, it's really out of sight on their dev team and gamblers would be staying away from such. Btw, is this really made in Japan or the owner of it just want to label it as it's made there.

There is nothing difficult here.... you set your path before you play and the character will run that path and if he collides with other characters, they die. So you have to predict where other players will go and hope to miss them?  

You only have a limited amount of moves.. and so do they. My problem is... if I press say the down arrow... it goes all the way down... not just one block at a time... would it not be better if it goes one black at a time?

It's always good to see some creativity in the gambling industry.Many players got bored of all the dice and slots games.
OP,maybe you should add Privacy Policy,Terms of Services and FAQ pages.
Like other members of the forum,I also don't understand the rules of this game,so maybe you would post the game rules on a different page as well.


This is pretty interesting.Perhaps OP isn't using Japanese servers to host that game and he won't allow Japanese players to gamble on his website.
There are people all around the world,who love everything that comes from Japan.Maybe this is his target demographic.Non-Japanese,who love Japan.
Anyway,getting a gambling license is a must and OP must resolve the scam accusations of gamblers being automatically banned from his website..
Good luck with this project,OP.

AFAIK, Online gambling and other form of gambling is strictly prohibited on Japan base on the articles I read about them in terms of gambling. May I know if you have license to operate an online casino that involves fiat? It will be very risky for players to play in your game while your Casino has threat of being seize by Japanese authorities which is highly to occurred.

One post and only this post from OP I don't think he will update this thread we don't know if he is the official representative or the owner of that gambling site, he got busted because of the wrong warning he is giving to this thread some players find this interesting hopefully we'll hear more on OP so he can address the issue or we can consider this project not worth playing.

Though this game is really challenging as new to my eyes yet the activities of the site towards security and players is not that safer for gamblers.

I deny playing here as they can just banned our account without valid reasons , and will use the reason of "Accidentally" banned  yet this is scary in our site as gamblers here in crypto that knows what is the situation against scam site,.

their game is quite different but if yoshie already had bad experience, then i won't suggest anyone to send funds here.
let's wait for the OP to clarify things and resolve his issue. if the OP will not come back here, then, we know this is just a cheap strategy to screw players. also, they need to be active here if they want to earn trust from players.
but first, need to address the above issue.

It seems that despite the OP, who kept this topic inactive, the Munokami.com team has another account controlling this thread.
The proof is from the email they sent to me.

There is a monitoring team here, regarding the complaints, because I never Emailed them till now.


I myself was confused with the munokami.com gambling site, suddenly they blocked my account, the reason didn't make sense and never created two IPs or two accounts, strangely they themselves didn't know why it was blocked, without further ado he sent gmail and opened my account again and at the same time added a $ 5 deposit in BCH.

If my assessment of this site, the level of security is not guaranteed from virus attacks / hackers or those who are dishonest, this is misleading for me, I am not tempted by the $5 bonus, sorry.

Hello there, welcome to the forum, I'm glad you'd shared it to us. The game is very confusing as this kind of game is new to me.  And also the functions of button... there are no tutorials on what they're/ their use in the actual game. Yes there is the objective stated on the "help" (?) button however I  believe it is not enough for the player to fully understand the game and button functions.

I don't want to receive like that so I don't think I will sign up here and play, if you did something wrong they can just delete your account but not to the point of going to charge you, it's scary and nobody wants to be charged for just playing, I've never seen this kind of threatening from other gambling casinos. 

I am glad I came across this, I was really interested to try the site but upon reading this I think I will just wait for OP to reply and for further notice. As much as the game is enticing, I think we all really should just wait once things are cleared and settled.

I believe in you bro, you have a good reputation, to have a bad accusation like that, I think they are doing it randomly to people, how big is this company to threaten for legal action, are they really that serious and are they capable of doing this.
Most likely I will not create an account here and I will recommend others not to also.

Did you change computer or internet connection? Is the really the issue with your IP or account? Maybe tra to connect using other provider (mobile, vpn) and see if you are still blocked.

No update from the team ? have you filed a ticket mate?

this is something scary , just now that i have seen that kind of  reason , hacked account?

Hope OP will explain this closely because this is alarming and very confusing also.

Be careful the Munokami.com gambling site, no rain, no lightning, today I saw that my account on the Munokami.com game site has been blocked.
Proof:


Don't know what mistake i made let alone make a mistake deposit and bet i haven't i did it.
Be careful just a warning never make a deposit on the Munokami.com site, most likely after you play and win all your Bitcoin assets will be frozen and lost, sites like this are vulnerable to fraud, be careful to avoid before being made a victim.

If you are going to visit the site there’s an English option but upon checking the design of game is still on Japanese so I don’t also understand what they are saying but maybe its just like a slots game where you can just click the play button and everything will work accordingly. Trying to explore more and understand the game, its still confusing.

Me, trying to understand the text on OP image, is English language available on this site and is this open to other countries?

I didn’t know this kind of game maybe because its a local game in Japan but now making their huge exposure in cryptomarket, I’m not sure though why BCH and not the usual crypto that are being used by many to gamble. Have anyone try this game already? Is it easy to understand?

Interesting game tbh, this isy first time seeing it but playing it looks kind of fun since you wouldn't know what to get and it seems like it's always random. Whoever made this game is surely a genius and you could even win some coins here but unknowingly it's in Bitcoin Cash hoping maybe Ether or other alts worth to get though.

Please check the site, they have a demo tab there for you to test it.

^ I did not even encounter this kind of game before, what game is that look like, and how does the game mechanics work?
It sounds interesting because I never played yet on this game before. The concept is like the Pacman game besides, it supported a lot of altcoins there so I think this kind of game is good to try, later I will try to play this game and drop it here my honest review.
However, is there any free that we could try to play as a test?

I havent tested out yet but basing on that image above or into the site then i do presume that this is a chasing game or trying out to eat someone
and as a multiplayer then having this small map would really be interesting and fun to watch and enjoy.
They are accepting various coins too if you do look on the bottom part.

BTC,BCH,LTC etc.

The game is looking good and its good that its actually open to some country to view or even play the game. Are you part of the team OP? Or you just share this site to us?

Still studying how this game works and how to gamble on this site, looks promising though I’m afraid to use BCH to gamble hope they can have the other option.

This game is very interesting and it's very similar to Pacman if you played Pacman before you will love this game it becomes interesting because you are playing with other players, not an algorithm, it's better to have an how it works or FAQ page for players to fully familiarize the game, I bet the site is new because it has no traffic data yet.

Welcome to the forum buddy nice to meet you.
You got me buddy I assure you that I will create an account after this comment.
I love games especially 5 v 5 games or a battle royal.
I think many users here in forum loves this game too.
In addition, multiplayer games will enhance your strategy and critical thinking,
Every move has been planned.

I also have the same concerns, and beside the improvement of graphics, wouldn’t it be better if it also has translations in different languages so other nationalities can have the chance to get the game itself easily? I played the demo and I must say that it is indeed a unique type of game, first time for me to encounter such to be honest.

Wow this is a rare game for me , i don't even know this and will surely got my interest in trying.

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Welcome to the forum guys , Japanese gambling is this right?

I love multiplayer games because this needs skills and ability and not just Luck so Yes i will create my account now and try this away .

I have a few concerns:

- The game is a bit confusing and it would be good to have a tutorial sort of thing to run through what exactly it does and how to play it. Perhaps consider simplifying the game a little bit so it's a bit more accessible to people as well given the steep learning curve?

- Why only accept BCH? You're going to find that not a lot of people use it as their native gaming currency.

Hi welcome to forum! This looks good. I think this is one of the unique gambling game here in the forum, I am fan of strategic games let me try this out since there's a free demo on your site. Just want to add some suggestion on the graphics probably a mobile support and a full screen is a good thing.

Looks good, for sure I'll try to go in and see only one game I got like you said (multiplayer) in Munokami.com site, like below.

https://zizihub.com/7e5c54.jpg

Honestly, I'm not used to playing games (strategic multiplayer), can you explain a little how to play in a nutshell.

I try to play, but the game just goes round and round there, don't know win and lose.
maybe you have a little advice on how to bet and play correctly and correctly, honestly this is the first time I've seen a game like this.

ビットコインゲーム - ムノカミ - メイド・イン・ジャパン 🇯🇵

Munokami.com is an online multiplayer strategic movement game made in Japan where the goal is to predefine a movement of your character on an obstacle map to catch Bitcoin Cash coins equivalent to fractions of this crypto currency. This game is played online on different maps and against other opponents.

https://munokami.com