Topic: Murat Scammed 62k Metropoly token (Read 769 times)

The whole thing created a good marketplace and everyone is trying their best to make their money. But ultimately bitcoin is receiving the exposure it needs.
[1.] Forum will always have alt accounts because it does not cost anyone a sat to have one
[2.] Projects are not spending a sat to pay the hunters, those shit tokens worth nothing even for them.
[3.] Hunters are always the fools who think they will make thousands of dollars from those worthless tokens but sometimes they do [I guess]
[4.] Maybe managers are making money.
[5.] Forum is increasing it's page view and visitors.
[6.] Every day new people are knowing about bitcoin.

I don't see anything is wasted.

Speaking of alt farms, craziest thing is that there there would be no bounty campaigns without them, or there would be way less than it is now. I am pretty certain that if you remove all alt accounts, there would be no more than few a dozens of participants per bounty campaign and that would be fail in the eyes of the clients. Bounty managers know that and for that reason they allow newbies joining, perfectly knowing that majority of them are alts.

The only way bounty managers can sell this service is if they promise hundreds or thousands of participants and without those numbers I seriously doubt that anyone would hire them. 

When shit tokens worth nothing then gas fees is a lot of money and I think when managers don't have the gas fees then they are stuck unless [1.] they pay out of their own or [2.] hunters volunteer.

Drifting OT here but:

1) This is how you wind up with the spam farms and multi accouters, individually the tokens might not be worth much but if you get a large enough percentage of those tokens it can be a couple of hundred USD. Which in some poor countries can be a lot of money.

2) Out and out bot scamming. If you write or buy a program that tweets / re-posts / and does whatever else then it's a couple of hours work per campaign and you might get lucky. Think of it as sales, how many people do salespeople in some industries have to talk to before they make a sale and get paid?

3) Greed & not knowing better.

4) Sometimes you just don't care. As of now I'm in a signature campaign that pays well. If it all goes to crap and there are no more good ones, I might just sign up for whatever looks neat at the moment. If I get paid, great....if not great...I am here an posting anyway. Might as well get paid for it. Compared to what other places / boards pay or at least used to pay for posting here even in the best campaigns this is fairly low. The good posters on the motorcycle forums used to get $5 post + 3% of the sale if someone clicked and bought through their affiliate link and that was 15+ (ack I'm old) years ago.

-Dave

Yeah, there's a lot of precedent before, even at the height of ICO way back in 2017 wherein there were some bounty campaigns that turns out to be lucrative. But after that it all went downhill as 90% of the project turns out to be a scam and some bounty managers have been dragged about it.

But still though, even after that, the community has grown so much that those who join still believed that bounty hunting are considered a day job a regular 8 hours or more in this forum and then in the end, this bounty hunters end up with nothing.

No, I meant in the sense that this is not the first case of complaints about Murat's unprofessionalism in running bounty campaigns. Badly worded.

For example, there was this case when he deleted all participants from the signature campaign after 6 weeks of promotion.  I do not recall following the case back then, and I only came across it now. But surprisingly, none of the DT members took any action, and Murat did not provide any explanation in that thread either. Imagine what would happen if that was a campaign in the Services board!

His response on TG was: "There is less than 3 legit participants and we decided to cancel the signature campaign" 

Then there was the case between him and bitbollo, when he left a retaliatory negative trust just because someone dared to question his managerial abilities.

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Exactly! The token sale should not have been his decision. As for gas fees, Murat never mentioned that it was an issue. Perhaps this was agreed upon as part of the deal between him and Metropoly.

I wonder how many such tokens/projects and bounty campaigns are needed to make hunters think about participating in them. For a long time, all such campaigns have been worthless or at best a miserable value, but I still see that all campaigns are crowded with hunters.
Spending time on something that maybe, a big maybe, someday, in a year or two, will have value, in my opinion, is crazy. If we add to that, only a few projects (out of tens of thousands) have survived for more than two years, the matter seems even worse.

The problem will be the fees today may not be the fees when you distribute.
You do some math and come up with 2ETH as a max total.
Fees spike....what do you do?:

Hold them till fees drop (could be weeks / months)
Go out of pocket (might be well more then you charged them to run the campaign)
Ask for donations from the people who participated (and watch the screaming / scam complaints come flying in)
Send them with the fee that was agreed and hope for the best (and deal with those issues)
Other?

Even if you go with a low cost chain, in the weeks & months between the start and end of the campaign and the distribution, who knows what can happen.

-Dave

Do they even know how does a flag work or more basic, what is a flag? LOL

Planning to sell the token is a wrong decision. You do not decide the fate of the tokens that are not yours.

Calculate the percentage of taken from the given tokens. Ask the hunters to send the gas fees. Whoever will send the fees, give them their tokens. You need to be more active in threads like this to understand and receive suggestions from forum members.

Lol. So I had it as easy as trying to create a flag, without finishing it, to know the answer. 

This could lead to a curious case analogous to when in a trial the accused is acquitted due to formal defects in the processing. If a DT created the flag without being affected, hypothetically he might not have enough support even if the flag was very well argued because he was not the right person to do it.

OP has to be pretty happy now that his wants and desires have been fulfilled:


So what's the next heinous wrongdoing that you have for us to examine? Hopefully the activity in this thread demonstrates that DT (and others) will look into issues in a fair and unbiased manner.

If OP was part of the bounty, or knows anyone else who was and feels cheated, they should consider opening the flag, although I doubt that they will... Bounty hunters are bounty hunters because they are lazy, and opening a flag requires extra work that doesn't pay.

Well, in flags Type 2 and 3 it is explicitely stated "This user violated a casual or implied agreement with me/This user violated a written contract with me" so its not correct to create one if you are not affected by it and flag Type 1 should be used in that case.

That is what I have assumed, but I was also asking in a general way. I imagine that the logical thing is that the flag is created by someone directly affected, but if it is created by a DT not directly affected, would it contravene any rule? I don't think so.

You mean his getting tokens and not sending to bounty hunters or saying that tokens were escrowed while they actually weren't? Or both?


I didn't think that Stalker22 meant him (or any of us here discussing it) making Type 2 flag but instead one of the bounty hunters as they were the ones affected with this.

Technically, does it make sense for someone who has not been directly affected by that violation to create it? It is that I think that hypothetically if it was done it should be by someone affected, and then the supporting force to the flag would come from the votes of DTs if applicable.


That's what it looks like. I understand that according to him what he has already said on the subject is enough and he does not want to talk more.

I hear what you are saying, Rikafip.  Bounty hunters also responsible amd have their own their part in how busted altcoin bounty campaigns are nowadays.  But seems to me Murat messed up here. Sure, he has status as a high-ranking member with serious trust points.  If this was some noob without no rep, their profile would be red already. Especially since this is not the first such case, as I understand it. 

Technically speaking, this even deserves a Type 2 Flag, since he violated the implied agreement. Least thats how I get it.


He was active again today, but he is not really taking it seriously enough to provide an explanation.

Well, that sucks big time. As I said its one thing if he changed the title let's say few days after bounty started, but this way he obviously mislead bounty hunters by making them think bounty pool is secured while we now know it wasn't.    


True, but bounty hunters should know better and not let to be exploited like that. For example, if that happened in bitcoin signature campaign (manager stating that funds are escrowed wiythout providing any evidence), the first thing someone would ask is "where is the proof of that, who is escrow and show us some txid" and from what I can see, no bounty hunter asked him that. Then again, bounty managers know that bounty hunters are gullible and without any influence here so they know that they can screw them without much (if any) consequence.

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@Murat care to explain escrow situation?

He should consider making a comment because of that revision to explain why he chose to change the title between those dates.

The image you posted explains his future plans about escrowing funds but he did not explain (in a post) the specific reason for not doing it with Metropoly and why he stated the funds were escrowed but later removed it

This all points to deception but the onus is on him to explain for his perspective what happened. There should be transparency on his part then it will be down to others to assess. Maybe he will provide a rational explanation but he should address the issue in full.

Yes, exactly! This means that Murat changed the topic title sometime between December 24, 2022, and May 11, 2023, but definitely after he said the campaign was over on December 24.

And this is what he posted to his followers in the Tokensfund.io TG group last year:

https://t.me/Tokensfund_io/21447

If he enticed bounty participants with a misleading promise about escrowed funds, it implies that he deceived them and shares some responsibility for them not getting paid for their efforts. An even bigger problem is that he had some tokens available in escrow, but for some reason, he chose not to distribute them to the bounty participants. Those tokens are currently worthless, but as Rikafip pointed out, at some point, they were valued at tens of thousands of dollars, which is not an insignificant sum.

From my perspective, a major factor contributing to the mess in the altcoins bounty arena is the lack of responsibility and professionalism among bounty managers who neglect their essential due diligence. This seems to be just one example of that.

I do not have an issue with what you have stated, I broadly agree with your comments. What I fail to understand is why there was no plan but the bounty manager to cover unforeseen circumstances (such as high transaction fees and/or loss of token value) because the participants would rightly expect to receive what they signed up for.

Well, we can't make this excuse that since there were all newbies in that campiagn , doing the spamming, therefore they should not be paid the token or paid less than what was promised to them earlier. Also, this excuse may not work that most of the newbies might be alts of each other and hence do not deserve the tokens.

The right way to treat them was to exclude those whom they think are the alts of each other and never let them participate in the campiagn. If it was difficult to detect the alts, they should have made a rule of not accpeting the newbies in the campiagns at the start.  Similiary if the posts done were spamming, why not excluded those particiapnts initially from the campiaign.

Get all the social meida activities and promotions and then making these spamming / alts excues, is just not right and shows the project does not want to pay for work.

That thread is mostly filled with newbies applying to join the bounty campaign. It would a complete guess in trying to work out how many were farmed accounts but you stated an important aspect: the bounty manager should have paid in time he participants expected to receive.

If the fees to send bounties made it a loss making transaction then he really should have thought of some alternative to present to participants or better still he should have let them know from before they signed up what he would do to compensate them if the fees became too much while their bounties were too small to make it a viable payment.

Man, I knew Murat's name rang a bell but I haven't seen a post from him in a long time; I did a deal with him a few years ago, which is reflected on his trust page (a neutral one).

I wasn't familiar with this situation at all, but the questions you asked that I snipped out of the post I took the above from are valid ones.  Murat doesn't seem too eager to do much explaining, though.  I read through most of the first page of this thread, about gas fees for the tokens in question and so forth being prohibitively high, but I'm going to go back and see why they weren't sent way before now.

Yep, that's the impression I get as well.  Maybe he can aim his sights at me with his bilious sniper rifle, though I don't think I've done anything to him that he'd have enough ammunition to do anything but get the community rolling their collective eyes and me greatly amused.

And yeah, I wish bounty hunters would all vanish immediately and all at once.  I find it hard to feel true pity when they don't get paid for their spamming.  On the other hand, what's fair is fair no matter my feelings toward their line of 'work'.  If Murat was supposed to pay them, then that's what he ought to do.

That will be difficult to know with certainty. Murat posted on 24th December 2022 with [Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens] [ESCROWED] but the next post in that thread was a different member on 11th May 2023 with [Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens]

I read his post but he did not mention anything about what would happen if the tokens remained worthless over a particular period of time. For example, how long will he wait for the tokens to have some sort of value before he gives up and if that (as expected) happens, does he have a plan to compensate bounty participants? Also, it would be good to read from him if he has learned anything from this experience which will help to ensure a repeat does not occur in future.

You are right and that was the reason I asked Murat to clarify what he intends to do now that the tokens are wasted. He should learn from this and ensure bounty participants in future do not suffer the same failure.

Ninjastic archived the original title, and it does indeed contain the "[escrowed]" part. As for when it changed, though I can't be sure with the exact time, it should be around after the bounty ended, given up to the announcement of the end of the bounty he made, the title still had it.

What he has not explained is plan B if what happens is those tokens continue to fall, which would not be unusual. I guess we have to assume that the participants will be left with nothing, and as you said in your previous post, the tokens were worth more before, so distributing them at that time would have made more sense.

I don't know shitcoins and tokens very well, and I understand that he may have been at a difficult crossroads and made a decision about it, but if as is likely the tokens keep going down we're going to have quite a few justified complaints about it.

I was about to ask Stalker22 where he saw that part about bounty been escrowed as I couldn't find any traces of it in the bounty thread. Is it possible to see when exactly he changed the title? It is one thing if it was changed right after bounty campaign started and another if it was changed months later.


He already explained it. He is basically waiting for market to pick up and tokens incerase in value so he sends them. Unfortunately for him and bounty hunters, chances that these tokens will have any worth in the future are slim to none.

Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:

[Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens] [ESCROWED]
[Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens]

I think Murat should explain how this situation be resolved now that the tokens have lost value and what has he learned from this experience? Lack of clarity will only add to more questions.

Sorry I meant, I wasn't referring to the manager's bounty. I saw OP's post history which always blamed DT members who didn't comply with his requests.
Not all DTs are interested in being involved in tagging this shit, especially someone who seems to be fighting for something hard but he has never been involved in anything with it.

You are right, like myself, I was once a bounty hunter, and if there is one thing very common in bounty hunting on this forum, its disappointment. Every bounty hunter should really get used to being disappointed once in a while, or even regularly as the case may be.

From my personal experience, most non payments to hunters after their work is most of the time not the fault of the bounty manager. Like in this case  of the op, the project team only sent 60k tokens to Murat, instead of 250k, Murat cant just distribute the 60k whereas the team have promised they will send the balance, distribution cost fees and some times, bounty managers are the ones who bear that fees, so i personally believe that Murat does have a justified reason why he has not distributed the 60kk token in his possession, Op is probably just being impatient.

In the end, this is not the fault of the manager, but the fault of the project team who have not or did not send the entire payment for the bounty hunters at once.

Actually is not right to say bounty funds are escrowed while they aren't and this shows dishonesty to the bounty hunters and untrustworthy. This is a sign of fowl play in the campaign and as a bounty manager who has lots of followers and they rely on him due to his capacity to be able to get payment from join his campaign managed by him to get paid at the last but most times bounty managers in their own decisions always takes in-law into their hands without seeking to secure the interest of bounty hunters rather only on their side which they thinks about.
But from my little understanding any funds that are being escrowed most managers do post the address visible for everyone to look and scan through the address to see the funds as it's stored inside. And the holders holds it till the end of the bounty campaign to send it back to the manager and he distributes to the hunters.

Where did you answer? I did not see any updates in the bounty thread. Your last post:


What was the token value after the campaign ended? Why not distribute the tokens then?

Who do you plan to sell them to now that they hold no value? And is that really your decision to make?

And why did you lie in the bounty campaign that the funds were escrowed ($100k)?

They actually sent 62.5k which is 25%. My guess is that they weren't satisfied with the results which I am not surprised at all. Planned bounty pool was $100k worth of tokens and when they saw that overall ~300 participants did some job, they decided to cut it. I thought that's pretty much standard thing in bounty campaigns, team adjusting pool after they see the results.


What about money for fees, did you get that from the team?


Well now tokens are worthless, while at one point they were worth $10k, which when you divide by ~300 participants is not nothing.


Is that your standard practice, to sell bounty tokens and then distribute ETH/whatever else? And do you really believe that tokens will be worth anything ever again, after they mananged to have no volume whatsoever? I am sory to say but you became a bagholder.

IMO, seeing the other manager getting the same situation while the team project did not send any fee-tx + cutting the pools. If, I manager asked the same things by BH & called being a scammer while really caring about their reward only 2$ + have a problem sending the fee.
- I will make a decision to just make a pool voting on telegram channel and sell these token
- The reward being sent using internal-transaction example using (Binance ID) to them
- Move on from these problem, and live peace as bounty manager

Because the project-team being a j*rk by not send the reward fully & BH also doing the same things asking (when, when + called BM scammer). Feel bad for @Murat, not every BH understand the situation.

I answered a few times in the past.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

There is no other option because the team is not responding after raising a good chunk of money.

Thanks @Little Mouse

I just saw someone get too let down by some damn project in this thread, then hide into one account to say his PoV because he still had a shred of hope that the payoff would be worth it someday.
I think it's time for you to forget about your activities as a bounty hunter rather than blaming people who have nothing to do with it. I don't remember when, but bounties have disappointed many of their hunters for a long time.

I sent a PM yesterday through telegram and asked to respond in the thread in reputation. Don't know how I forgot to share the thread link lol. Just sent him the link.

My best guess is nobody sent him a message regarding this thread time. But I have checked the old thread where Holydarkness had a conversation with Murat regarding this matter. So, If he do not use notification bots for the mentions (as like me, I do not use it as well), he is unlikely to know about this situation. It will be better if someone reputed knock and let him know about this thread.

If sending these $760 worth of tokens is too expensive, I don't know what he should do then. I guess this is why he is holding it without taking any action like selling it or distributing it. Let's see if someone knocks him and if he replies here.

So far the speculation favors Murat, it's the metropoly's team who are not doing their part, but I agree since it is posted here he should drop a line not only on his telegram group, there's no need to defend himself because the real picture points to Metropoly, We just want him to confirm or deny what's posted here.
I'm sure Murat wants these things over, in only a few months, the campaign will be one year from the end.

I'm not saying that he is wrong, but Murat should really think about laying out his side of things here.  Not saying anything doesn't do anyone any favors, and it usually just leads to more guessing and people making up stuff that aint true.  Even if Metropoly screwed up and didn't hold up their end of the bargain, no reason for the manager to not speak out about it publicly.

Umm... no? To be precise, BM is waiting for the price to raise. Although the decision is made with good intent to protect their participants, for this part of this situation, I personally think this is not Murat's decision to make, to sell at what price. On the other hand, sending the token at current price will borderline be... disheartening. I can confirm what Shishir99 said that 62.5k token is around $760 [see image below from uniswap], divided to ~330 participants, it'll be ~2.3 USD each participants.

As if this is something new when it comes to bounty campaigns in which the owner of a project can at any time refer to the fact that the goals of the project were not achieved at all or were only partially achieved and therefore cannot pay those who promoted it as much as promised. Even if it doesn't go in that direction, some use the option to simply say that most campaign participants are bots or alt accounts that don't deserve to be paid.

No matter how we look at it, the fact is that in this game everyone takes risks, and the only question is who will someone point the finger at and declare him guilty after all. I would say that everyone bears part of the blame, regardless of whether they organize or participate in bounty campaigns.

Seeing that the address doesn't have any eth to cover fees, I assume the BM is probably waiting for Metropoly team to send him/her some ethereum to cover fees of sending out tokens as this would mean BM incurring the extra cost if his to send now.
Btw am wondering why the team has equally only sent out 24.8% (62k) of the bounty allocation and not everything owed in one transaction ??

Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal.

A bounty hunter trying to get justice while spamming for poor tokens, but he does not want to do it from the original account. He is afraid that the managers he accuses will ignore him in the future so he won't be able to be rewarded with any new shit tokens.

You have form. First the thread about irfan_pak10 is a scammer and now this. What is your real motive here and which other accounts do you control?

You are the one who has highlighted it here therefore will you consider yourself brave? As the deed has already been done by you, allow him some time to post here. I am sure even you can allow him that courtesy but if you are impatient, you can read this (while you wait for him to address the situation) as suggested by nutildah Murat vs Metropoly - Who is honest and who is not? and an excellent post here too.

Either that or they are using the AI detected alt-account to create a public face hoping to build the account and add to the farm they control. One thing that is for certain is that by creating these threads he is attention-seeking (and he has been noticed).

I take another look at this situation, I think the initial agreement was that Murat will be the one distributing the whole payment in batch, so they'll send him 250,000 and he'll split them in four installments. If Metropoly planned to send the payment to Murat in batches, I think they'll say something along the line, "this batch payment has been sent to your BM". Instead, their TG admin said they've paid him in full, and then refused on providing the TXID, arguing that it's a... private matter.

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edit: I dig further, apparently, the discussion about this payment continued on their telegram channel after that thread I mentioned earlier concluded. I think it's a classic case of a project being cheap and breaking their own commitment. Murat finally posted his deal with them around one month after last post on that accusation thread, and I don't know how any of you read it, but I think the initial agreement can be read that they will pay 250,000 token, worth [hopefully, if pre-sale succeeded] 100,000 USD, which they later revise that the allocated token is something worth 100,000 USD.



So, the way I see it, the contract will either be 250,000 token, or 100,000 USD-worth of token. There is no info about how much does it worth during pre-sale as their tg group for discussion is not available anymore, so I can't track past discussion for their price, but if I may infer from what Murat say above, and what's shown on their website for their token sale, it was around 0.1 USD. So, if they claimed they've pay Murat in full, according to the token allocation they set by themselves, it should be either 250,000 token, or... 100,000 USD worth of token rated at 0.1, thus 1,000,000 token.

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As for why he didn't send the 62,500 token to the participants, it was also covered on their bounty group,

referring to etherscan, the current erc20 token transaction fee is 6 gwei or around $0.2 if there are 2000 unique addresses then the fee is only around $200, the question is whether metropoly developers have provided a fee for sending their tokens to bounty hunters

if so then the error lies with Murat, but if there is no shipping fee given then Murat is not doing anything wrong, he did the wise thing to not give out bounty hunter reward tokens

From what I can tell, it seems like the Metropoly people might be lying here.  I mean, if there's no blockchain proof to support their side, then they're probably just making stuff up.  But what surprises me is that Murat's been so quiet about all this. Youd think he'd want to clear the air publicly right? I didn't see him post anything in that old thread, and it's pretty shady that he deleted those questions on his Telegram group.  I dunno, the whole thing smells fishy to me.  Murat should speak up if he wants people to know his perspective and  staying silent just makes him look guilty. This is some messy drama lol.  I wish theyd just put all the evidence out there and settle it already.  But from what I can see, Metropoly seems sus and Murat dodging questions doesn't help his case.  Just my two cents as an outsider looking in.

The names [murat and metropoly] rung a bell in my head. It's vague, but I think I managed to get to the bottom of it back then by talking to both sides. Simplified, the project promised 250,000 token as a bounty payment, claimed that they've sent everything to the BM, but, in fact, they only send 62,500, with the txID to back up that fact.

Murat refuses to distribute the token and decide to hold them until metropoly fulfill what they promised by sending the rest of the token as promised in the beginning of the bounty.

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edit: missed Rikafip's post about 25% while I take a walk down the memory lane and compose above post

Only if clients wants you to distribute get transaction fees first lol. It seems these days client also go with other chains to avoid such hefty amounts in only transaction fees.

According to Metropoly spreadsheet, ~330 bounty hunters were supposed to get the tokens. Its less than estimated 1k but still, he would have to spend shit load of ETH on fees to send the tokens to everyone.

Then again, the thing I don't understand is why he waited to get full bounty pool since it was mentioned in bounty thread that tokens will be sent in batches of 25% to avoid dumping, and those 62.5k sent is indeed 25%.  


Yep. If money for fees was the problem and he neevr got them, he should have said it long time ago instead letting random bounty hunters to throw these kind of accusations.

I think you are afraid of using your real account to accuse the bounty manager. You created a new account to accuse him without even doing a proper research on your topic matter to see if there is any existing similar thread of this nature. You failed to provide evidence to back up your claims. Just rantings to paint somebody bad while destroying their reputation but it's not fair and I will advise you incase of next time, do a proper research to get more facts at the tips of your fingers before laying accusations against people as it would not be fair to derive pleasure in frustrating other named members.

So everyone faced this? That was a great lesson for me. Not going to escrow rewards without tx fee lol.

This occurred to me, I think the only possibility him not paying to hunters he didn’t get transaction fees from client to distribute tokens. Usually in bounty campaign total addresses to distribute exceeds 10k if we include airdrop campaign too. It means client has to pay more than 10k usd in transaction fees to distribute tokens

Yes you could be right about that. There were 1800+ applicants, I don't know how many actual participants, but probably over 1k, which is insane. Just for my own education, I took a look at how much it would cost to send 1k participants 65 tokens each, and it would cost approx. 2.36 ETH, which is nothing to sneeze at. So if he's not being reimbursed for this somehow, yes I can see how sending the tokens isn't feasible.


Yes, not being reimbursed for transaction fees makes more sense. Would be nice if Murat makes an appearance here to offer an explanation, just to put the issue to rest.

Tbh, he didn't do bounty hunters any favor by waiting for Metroply team to send him the rest of the bounty pool. If he distributed what he got, hunters would be able to sell them and actually earn some money while now token is absolutely worthless with basically no volume on Uniswap for months, meaning even if he gets the rest of tokens now and send them the full amount, it won't make any difference.


If that's the case, woulnd't he sell them when he had the chance instead waiting for them to become worthless like they are now.

Because transaction fee might cause a lot just to distribute this token with a mere 700$ value to over 1000+ address that will receiver their tokens. The token value assumption doesn’t considered the price impact once this tokens sold since the trading volume for this token is just 1$ according to CMC market records.

You will just receive a penny for a partial transaction while participants will still want to claim the remaining tokens soon. I believe all bounty hunters should have a both whether you re already happy on the current amount of tokens or not to your BM since the fee is really not cheap for Ethereum transactions.

These are ERC20 tokens and worth ~$760 (from the above user Shishir99). I'm sure there are more than 1 thousand eligible unique addresses or close enough. This will require at least $2000 ETH as fees now if I'm correct. Possibly team hasn't shared the fees. This has happened to me too. I had to go through the same situation, being called a scammer. Anyway, Murat knows the better and he must put a few words on the case.

Looking at all the posts that the OP has made, I am going with they have been tagged and kicked out of several bounties and are now just looking to cause trouble for everyone they can.

Nobody is taking what they say seriously and as nutildah said:

I just did a ~AI detected and moved on. If they ever post a valid and useful report I might remove it, but for now they are just rehashing old info.

Edit: I have dealt with Murat in the past several times, never had an issue.

-Dave

The name rang a bell and I checked that I left him positive feedback after I was looking for someone who could do an exchange and he offered via PM.

In this case, I think it wouldn't be bad if he gave an explanation about the case for transparency, and I think nutildah's neutral tag is very correct in this regard.

This means he did not sell the token, so I won't say he scammed the hunters. That 62K Metropoly token worth around $760 today. Since it's still there, he can still distribute the token if he want.

I don't know how much those campaign managers charges to handle campaign. It's not wise for a campaign manager to keep the all fund that he received from the team and leaving the participants. You know what I mean. Even though we barely care about hunters, If you talk about justice, he should distribute what he got and of course keep something for his work too.

This discussion happened already, you're just too lazy and blinded by hate to do proper research:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/murat-vs-metropoly-who-is-honest-and-who-is-not-5454795

Here is the transaction of payment to Murat:

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9f13e8f313d1bf85527e1fb419fa7e459028c999fb8d6d8513d7ccea95aa5bb1

The tokens are still sitting in his wallet. I don't know why he didn't disburse them to bounty hunters, but honestly I don't care. Bounty hunters serve no important function here, they just take up time and space. The forum doesn't need them and I'd be happy if they all disappeared tomorrow.

I'm assuming he kept them all as payment for conducting the bounty (that's just my assumption), but for the sake of "justice"  I will neutral tag him with a direction to this thread. That should get his attention, seeing as how he never responded here on forum on the issue.

Murat who managing bounty is big scammers. he recieved 62k tokens from Metropoly team and still not paying to bounty hunter.

Message on 8 May
""
Metropoly sent only 62K tokens instead of 250K tokens. We are waiting for them to send the remaining tokens.

🚫 Stop spamming in metropoly chat, we will remove you from the campaign if you spams over there. We will post update if there is any till then be patient. ""
https://t.me/Tokensfund_io/29713

If team not sending token then distribute what you recieved. Why senior member quiet on this. If newbie did this he would got 500 negative so far. Any brave men who bring attention of Murat about distribution?