Topic: Musk has positioned himself successfully, but can he really get what he wants? (Read 220 times)

Elon Musk has no charm. He cannot even talk right. The thing that he is marginally good at is posting memes about Dogecoin. Did Musk pay you to say that he has charm, or are you just being a bitch for him?

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You can convince yourself of that, except when it gets too painful, or too joyous. Then the truth will be evident to even you.

Meanwhile, Musk is using his simple charm along with some smart moves to make more money than you can imagine.

I tell the truth.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

People who review your posts can see (after a while) that the truth is probably opposite of whatever you post.

Don't give excuses for those motherfuckers. But the worst people are the Musk worshippers. They are truly the worst people imaginable.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Personally, I think Musk is partly influenced by bad advisors, just like Trump was in his first term. This is not to say that he won't take advantage of policies and ideas that many of us think are wrong. But he is a businessman. So, he will do business the ways that he can. I believe he is acting mostly in a good direction for all of us as well as himself.

Musk is a scammer. Tesla stock is a fucking scam.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

While you are probably right about nobody going to Mars, and while all the Mars talk is probably only there to move money around to the talkers, what is Musk really doing? He might be secretly building the Atom Bomb Rocket ( https://newatlas.com/orion-project-atom-bomb-spaceship/49454/ ) in space where it couldn't hurt anyone, but only pollute the universe a little.

Nobody is going to Mars, bitch. If anything, SpaceX will just pollute space with as much space junk as possible so that we cannot even send any new satellites into orbit.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Trump and Musk are going to be great allies in getting to Mars during Trump’s Presidency. Elon knows Trump wants to be President when that American flag gets planted on Mars and Elon knows that means SpaceX will get a pass to do as many test flights as they want. I’m just worried I won’t get to buy stock before the IPO.

On November 12th, Trump announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will work together to lead a new "Department of Government Efficiency" . Trump said the department's goal is to "break down government bureaucracy, cut unnecessary regulations and wasteful spending, and reorganize federal agencies."The two of them are still in their "honeymoon phase" for now.

Damn well said, rude, but true

If Trump hadn't run, he wouldn't have had anyone trying to put him in prison.

As for homosexual people not respecting other people, if they respected other people enough to respect themselves, they wouldn't become homosexual in the first place. Homosexuality has no place in nature. It uses the procreation process in a patently false way.

What does recognizing the unnaturalness of homosexuality have to do with being friends of homosexual people? Those sick people need all of the right friends they can get. And others of themselves aren't friends when they promote further homosexuality.

You are taking this so personal. Is that why you moved to Venezuela?

So, how come you are so sure about homosexual people being so eager to belittle and disrespect people who are not homosexual like them? because I would bet 0.0001BTC you don't have any meaningful interaction with gay people in your real life whatsoever and you have never been a friend for someone who is not straight. Are we now supposed to ignore the whole decades within the modern history of the western civilization in which people who were not straight were considered inferior and of less worth just because their sexuality? Are you going to make up now some story about straight people have been prosecuted in the same way ?  

Also, I still don't buy Trump has ideals. He just ran for president to stay out of prison and so far is going to work for him.

Yes. Elon will get what he wants and he will fuck you over because you are all a bunch of pieces of shit who worship him.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Don't  you realize that the American Dream being different in the eyes of different people is part of the American Dream? Did you notice how many people came up over the border when they had the chance? They were all looking for the American Dream. But, certainly, for somebody like me who was born in the US America, the dream is different than it is for those crossing the border.

Many people think that the American Dream is to leach off government. And they would be right, for themselves. But it is also the American Dream of others to stop supporting the leechers so that they are forced to work for themselves rather than essentially steal from those who are being forced to support them. All that Trump and MAGA want to do is let all people do what they want... including Trump and MAGA people. This means to let people take their own responsibility for their lives, and stop leeching off others.

Some people want to belittle, for example, homosexuals. But guess what. Homosexuals want to belittle them way more than they want to belittle homosexuals. Why should my business be forced to hire homosexuals if I am against homosexuality? Let the homo's go out and start their own business where they don't hire straight people.

Do you really want to support the things that you are against? If not, why can't it be the same for other people? If so, why are you talking against Trump... just because he supports things that you are against? Is it right for you to fight for your ideals but Trump can't fight for his?

Are you even aware the American dream is a pretty different concept depending whom you ask about it, though? Your vision of the American dream could be one which is completely opposite of other people who live and was born in the country like you did.
The Republican party and the MAGA coalition wants to push forward a vision which does not reflect the American dream for an important porcentaje of the population.
Hell, there will be people in the USA whose concept of the American dream does not even include people who are homosexual, so they want them to be excluded and belittled, while on the other hand the vision for the country in the eyes of other people is to include all races, religions, genders and sexualities within the same society, where each one of them work to make the country better for all of them.

Your idea of the American dream does not apply to all your co-nationals.

But I see the opposite happening, Musk looks like he will be a key figure in a future Trump administration. According to CNN, Musk participated in a phone call between Donald Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky about the conflict in Ukraine. Not stopping there, during the election campaign, Trump also promised to give Musk an influential position in the government if elected. That shows that Musk will almost certainly become a politician and getting involved in politics is completely beneficial to his business, IMO. It won't affect his business as much as we think.


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/08/europe/ukraine-trump-elon-musk-zelensky-intl-latam/index.html

for two deficult personality as trump and musk to work together, it's going to be purely based on set out rule that they will both endeavour to obey if not theirs going to be a fast conflict of interest playing out.

Musk is a sharp guy that wouldn't want a close proximity kind of relationship with Trump's administration. What he likely needs is just the freedom and minimal support to carry out his activity and business without serious interference and they might just be good so long as that's granted.

Musk is a actor just like Steve Jobs, Zuckerberg und many other

One thing you can bet on, with Trump and Musk both working together.

We are going to Mars.

In the US Republic, everybody is free to follow the American Dream... not follow the President, except if they want to. This is what Musk and Trump both want. So, what are they going to do? They will keep America free so that they can pursue the American Dream for themselves... by letting other people pursue it for themselves, as well.

Musk is a very smart guy, one of the most intelligent people in the world. Obviously he has political beliefs that align with the Republicans but his support of them both in person but also financially is about a lot more than that. I don’t know exactly what his agendas are but I saw a news article stating that since Trump won Musk’s net worth has increased by $21,000,000,000 to over $300,000,000,000. So he hasn’t backed Trump publicly for nothing, he is lining his pockets. He probably has tax agreements with Trump or something too. Like I said, a very smart guy.

Musk has become arrogant, for his ties with Russia in general, he needs to be given a term, this is a treason.

I think Musk will be a distant advisor.  He has too many businesses to run, too many conflicts of interest to take a cabinet position.

Both men are incredibly strong-willed. If their interests clash, could Trump end up kicking Musk out? It wouldn’t be the first time. Remember, former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson found out he was fired through a tweet. So, if Musk’s interests ever conflict with Trump’s, could he face a similar fate?