Topic: Muslim athlete initially banned by Trump arrested for child sex abuse in US (Read 2427 times)

Most of the African refugees are going to Italy instead of Germany. And Italy is not known for a generous welfare system, unlike Germany. The Africans are living in slave-like conditions, being exploited by the Italian mafia.

It behooves me what these Liberals will go through just to make it seem that they care about people, Look at whats happening in Germany and with Merkels Open door Policy, They are raping and assaulting citizens of the land. I didnt see any European country doing the same for African refugees.

I am not very comfortable with the direction of our progress. A few decades back, homosexual acts were considered as unnatural and illegal. Now they are widely accepted, at least in the western nations. I am afraid that in the near future they will legalize pedophilia and pederasty as well.

In recent decades, the planet has a complete decline in morals. More and more people are showing their intentions to the public with their base desires and needs. And over time, this becomes the norm. So you can give examples of what happens to LGBT or with the unhealthy love of the old to the young. This all corrupts humanity.

We are entering a very dark era of man's history. Right now, right and wrong ideas are being blurred so that people can not be able to discern what is correct and what is not. We abandoned the usual and age-long beliefs in the name of modernity thinking that we are more enlightened than the people of the past...sadly we are now reaping the bad fruits of the wrong things we sowed in the past. When people are divided on many issues, enemies can easily conquer.

The difference is that Christianity uses money power and shrewdness to gain more followers to the religion, while Islam is still dependent upon the stone age tactics such as demographic jihad and physical violence to expand itself.

As an atheist, I have few if any problems with the ideal way of life as advocated by fundamentalist Christians, excepting the God stuff.

Now, as an atheist, I have quite a few problems with the ideal way of life as advocated by Islamics.  They do bear some resemblance to fundamentalist Christians, in ways that should be explored.  However, the problem is they seem to be a bunch of control freaks with no hesitations to use violence to enforce their weird shit on people that are essentially, innocent bystanders.

I am not a big fan of the Hasidic / Haredi community. And it is true that normal people are endlessly harassed in the Haredi-majority areas. But outside their communities, the Haredis create no issues. And they never engage in terrorism against the civilians.

I'd think the thing that I hate most about this entire ordeal is that the media will change what they call him in order to benefit themselves at certain points, at certain points the media will call him a Muslim athlete and then they'll call him an Indian Athlete when they talk about him doing whatever he does in the sporting world.

They know that due to the ban on the 7 countries, or which they call, "Muslim Ban" they'll gain points among their Liberal base if they go ahead and use the word Muslim when they refer to him.

Pretty disgusting what he did though, and this is one of the times I would call for the death penalty to be issues because crimes against children are horrible enough as it is. Sexual crimes should just be instant death.

You know nothing about islam, poor and maybe slow brain

Now that is a clear case of under reported news I have not seen that anywhere and no one else has connected the lines.
This is a good example of positioning an issue but seriously the heck.
Sigh well India has had a lot of news about rape, sadly.

And I know several people who profess Islam and they are normal people and even much better than Hasidim.

Apart from a few crazy sects such as Jehova's Witnesses and criminal organizations such as the New Tribes Mission, I don't think that the evangelical Christians are leading a life outside the mainstream society. They are well integrated to the general population.

Well, what do you believe about Evangelical Christians? Same conservative stance, but with Jesus on deck.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews are only a small minority (<10%) of all the Jews, and the progressive Jews doesn't enjoy a cordial relationship with them. And from what I have heard about the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, they are as bad as the Muslims.

Every religion is an attempt to turn people into slaves of the faith. That is why I am an atheist. When Muslims put themselves above all others because they are of another faith, I hate them.

Hardly any Jews pay any attention to that crap.

All of the Abrahamic faiths have pretty rigid tenats to follow, if you are Orthodox/traditionalist/conservative. I think Judaism has it the worst. Would you consider the practice of Judaism slavery? They have very strong edicts on diet, appearance, and behavior. In fact, being the stewards of the old convenant, I would say they probably had the worst of it. The Lord was quite specific in the covenant he has with them.

initially i thought this guy was inocent but further things show he was not and deserves punishment.
why cant these muslims let people live in peace? rapists molesters... its majority also by muslims like the way they contribute to terrorists.
so only in saudi arabia bhurka is compulsion otherwise every min a girll will be raped.
Very bad religion ever.

A religion is meant to provide motivation, hope and compassion to the humans. But if it dictates each and every fine details of our life, by saying that we should do this, and we shouldn't do that, then it can no longer be called a "religion". It is more like enslavement or servitude.

It's reasonable to ask that question to one of those damn evil clerics that Muslims think can answer and interpret all questions relating to the Koran.  I only answered directly a ridiculous question by Greenbits about "which part of Sharia law do I object to."

Of course, many other parts are extremely objectionable.  But the point of my comment is that the Koran and hadiths attempt to control an individual's life down to the most minute detail.

I'm not kidding about this, and they don't want to tell you about it or let you find out about it.

Sure, I'm only 30. And I have as well. I am not an apologist for Christianity. I have seen absolute evil being put forth as the work of the Lord. I'm Christian, and pretty serious about it, but if we could get past our differences and sit down, you would find we have similar views about organized religion. It can be beautiful, but when misapplied, like it usually is, to advance some agenda of a person or group and not the Lord's Kingdom, it can sometimes produce atheists, such as yourself.

So if someone uses a tissue paper instead of a stone to wipe his ass, then he automatically becomes an apostate and will be tried for blasphemy? This is insane. Also, what if someone uses 6 stones instead of 5?

Well, your experience is irrelevant.  I've seen both good and bad things done in the name of God and in spite of God.  Why you would imagine the sort of things you've asserted is hard to understand.  Limited experience, maybe?

I disagree with the paragraphs instructing true believers to use "five stones" to wipe their ass with after taking a dump.

Any more questions?

Lol...

Under the current political atmosphere, a Christian would never get away with a child sex crime in any of the Western nations. That could have happened in the 60s or the 70s, but definitely not now. On the other hand, the Muslims seems to be having a free run. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

This right here is beyond false, if you're attempting to just say that a Christian would've gotten away with some sort of child sex abuse / molestation is just beyond disgusting to say. You and me both know that anyone who is a child molester is looked down upon and charged + usually convicted for their crimes (In the Western World I'm speaking of)

I'll bring up one of the most controversial cases of child molestation in the Western World which was the 2000's reports of child molestation's by thousands of priests upon children within the Christian faith. Once it was put to light, all of these people were tried (if possible) some had been convicted, others sued and so on.

Please provide some more evidence on the ignoring of sexual abuses if someone is white, Christian, and so on and so forth. It'll really amplify you're claim.

What particular facet of Sharia? Ranges from financial edicts to edicts on health. Also, we don't practice Sharia in the US if A. And we have Muslims. So, if that's what you meant, Islam does not predicate the misogynistic/patriarchal aspects (as that shit would clearly not fly over here).

Also, which part of Sharia law do you disagree with in particular, and why? I'm Christian, but the way Sharia law handles usury and business benefits most Christians better than the traditional financial system, which is quite unchristian.

Sharia is ideal for Muslims. They are just trying to impose Sharia law in their countries. The whole world sees what the Muslims want to make the world by the example of the Islamic state. I don't want to live in such a world.

Check out Satanism. It's an actual religion, and was in vogue in Hollywood back in the day. It's still around, but it's gotten much better at flying under the radar.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

It's funny they never get vilified when the Islam discussion cones up. despite actually having a religion that openly espouses getting ahead at the expense of others, and openly practicing evil, selfish works. Founder actually is a pedo.

And as an atheist, I'm assuming you used to come from an Abrahamic faith. In my experience, most atheists reject a childhood religion when they see it grossly misapplied. Misapplication isn't actual practice. Do you think that the people you were around were good representatives of said faith, given how you reacted? Bad Christians aren't Christians. They are mislead people spouting non sensical bullshit. And it's those people that fuck it up for everyone else.

Also, as an atheist, recognize your bias. You have obviously seen some shitty stuff done in the name of God. Don't you think that may have colored your perceptions a bit?

Well, you seem to contradict yourself and make the exact opposite point there.

Now explain how you separate "culture" and "Islam" in the case of Sharia law.

Lol...

Islam is the same false religion as the Muslims themselves. I do not advocate any religion. I'm an atheist, but I compare the behavior of people based on their religion. It seems to me that Muslims are the most aggressive and deceitful.

I see a lot of the racists on the board (you will have suuuch an interesting conversation with the Father) that aren't aware of the differences between culture and religion. The misogyny comes from Arab culture, not from Islam.

To be clear, this all comes down to the talking point about Aisha's age. This is the Holy Grail of Islamophobia; wielded with the same zeal as FBI crime statistics on African Americans in the debate on Black crime. For the record, most people that actually practice the religion do not believe that she was nine. This is established; the hadiths that point to her being younger are disputed (kinda like how we ignore the Apocrypha).

This guy was a fucking pervert. And from a culture that has serious issues with women's rights (rape rate is off the chain). Don't think this was so much about him being Muslim as just being a terrible person.

And if you are going to bring up pedophilia, you are being a coward not to bring up the rampant pedophilia that happens in both Christian and Jewish places of worship. Even if you want to believe that Islam condones this, then in the same breath concede me this; what worse, the very teachers of this faith performing this sin, like in the case of the priests touching the kids, or just a guy in the faith that does this? Both are equally vile, but when the actual guys that are supposed to be the moral compass are fucking the kids, that actually gets in my craw a little deeper.

I find it funny that people that are too ignorant to actually research this stuff, have such strong opinions on it. T

Singling us out for what? If Islam is hateful religion, why should I promote in my country? I understand that some migrants need help, but why should we help Islam? In addition, I believe that migrant men to let impossible. Let them defend their country. To let only women and children.

You know, this kind of thinking have gotten us into a real mess. We always say that islam teaches violence and is where terrorism roots from yet here we are initiating hate for every muslim regardless if they did something wrong or not. This doble standardship that we apply when we talk about islam and muslims are sprouting all these hate that would doom all of us

In order to stay in good shape any athlete needs to train every day. I think that after this incident it will be difficult to do it and he will not be able to be a good athlete.

I think it's a good thing to ban athletes, or any public figure, from big public events such as sporting events. Athletes serve as role models to many young athletes and molesting children isn't an aplaudeable attribute. Giving them a podium sends a wrong signal to anyone who looks, or looked, up to them.

Childmolestors should not be glorified.

trump ban every things....

I think all pedophiles need to be sentenced to death penalty without excluding anyone from such punishment. It is not important to me if he was muslim or not as most of the pedophiles are from my freakin own country USA that go to Cambodia or Thailand and do the worst a human being can do,and they are not muslims. It is these kind of people we should fight with the most severe measures and these kind of persons do not deserve to breathe.

I stand for the death penalty for this kind of persons.

Dude, this guy was charged for first-degree sexual abuse. He was not arrested for just kissing the 12-year old. Check the report from Adirondack Daily Enterprise. He fondled her breasts, and later claimed that he thought that she was not a minor.

Your attempt to justify a child molester brings disrepute not just to you, but also to your country (India). A number of Western nations have recently given out travel warnings for women, to refrain from visiting India.

pakistanis are born terrorists,rapists,criminals,haven for dons...
they can do anything.
But this guy belongs to that part of kashmir which belongs to india and not to pakistan.pakistani kashmiris are also criminals.
but this guy looks inocent.his act is of love for children.If a christian had kissed her no complaint would have been filed.

That is the main point of Trump on why he is denying the entry of immigrants from Muslim countries, aside from they are having a different culture they became a burden to the country when they enter. By burden means that the US will spend another millions worth of humanitarian assistance to these people to assist them. If many immigrants will enter the US the taxes will be eaten by the immigrants themselves.

Muslim sportspeople are unpredictable. A few decades back, there was a big international scandal, when a Pakistani cricket player raped a woman in Guyana, while participating in an official tour.

it was a trap for him i think.but he is muslim so cant comment anything on his act.but as said before he would have done it by thinking her as kid and not by a wrong means.

I don't believe that he actually did it willingly. I am not a Muslim but I appeal to common sense because how would someone who went through so much effort to get his visa not willingly threw it away, it does not make any sense. And I believe that people who have nothing to lose are those that behave that way and for him who have a lot to lose then I don't expect him to go that route.

There is a major difference here. Western countries where Catholicism is dominant religion are not supporting pedophilia.
It is forbidden by law, viewed by everyone as something totally wrong. Priests are aware that they are doing something illegal.
From the other side you have Islam where marriages with children are sanctioned by law, and age of consent isn't even set.

It is disgusting that liberals help this pedo. Why do they keep doing this? Just because he's a muslim?

psychopaths.

What about the Oklahoma bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols? They are white christian boys..

And since Sept. 11th, 2001, all terrorists who've committed terrorist acts on American soil have been American.

Where's the real problem? Is it the immigrant population or homegrown extremism?

Ah, no.  What you've done here is note that he comes from a culture which has primitive beliefs.

That's true.

But it does not prove bolded section above.

You are absolutely right. If it depended on me I would have closed all the mosques in the territory of non-Muslim States. Why help spread the hateful teachings of Islam. All migrants must abandon Islam.

But for last 70 years no one accepting this most of world know this is part of India and they are Indian not Pakistani don't start a new panic here leave as its going here

Man from jammu kashmir which is not india exactly they (people of Jammu kashmir) call them self pakistani.

NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM

Then why do not you remember many cases when Catholic priests have sex with boys from the Church choirs? I think it's even worse. It's not about religion. This is a problem of education.

if he was christian/ a white a case would have never been filed.it was a trap for him.sexual abuse for kissing a child have all of you lost wisdom?
he didnt force the girl to kiss him this is another fact.
her parents are either racists or forced by a racists to file a case against him.
'he should be sent back' this is wat u r saying right? definitely its not a j1 or h1b he will come back to home country.
'attitude of indian males towards women..' in india law more strict than that of US
in US in school age also children are involved in rape and all... in india the punishment for rape is now hang to death

anyways i dont support him because he is a muslim 2nd he is from jammu kashmir
just said what i think about his case and others comments.

This guy was from India, not from the 7 countries listed in Trump's ban. To separate issues. And the sexual abuse and general attitude toward woman by the men of India is fucking disgusting. I hope he gets sent home to a proper Indian punishment.

To your implied point about Trump's travel ban - this is 1 bad egg out of (presumably) thousands or tens of thousands of good people. And non of his actions are related to his religious belief...that can be determined by the facts.

So, what does this story leave us with? Angst that the melting pot that is the US allows immigrants to roam its streets or pride that the justice system caught and will be prosecuting this guy as they would any naturally born citizen?

What do you expect? He just showed perfectly fine behavior acceptable in his homeland.
You don't have to be an expert on Islam to know that Muslims treat pedophilia as completely fine manifestation of love.
In fact 12 years old might be a little too old for him. I remind you: no age limits have been fixed by Islam for marriage.

This is the BBC article a few days back, when he was denied a visa:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-38824358

He was allowed to tarvel after intense lobbying by the Democrat politicians and the liberal judges. And a few hours after landing in the United States, he showed his true color by sexually abusing a child. The latest news here:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39138083

His family members back in Kashmir are "happy" that he is receiving legal aid from the extreme left-wing nuts.