Topic: [MUST READ] Need 10 BTC Loan... Need help, please read... (Read 2651 times)

Expected your reply though... And happy for your concern too...
Anyways, just wanted to say that all I wanted is to prove myself innocent in this case as people were taking me in wrong means, they were thinking that I am trying to scam everyone which is why I uploaded some of the most important and private documents here...

Else, I already said this before that I am not interested in any help from here and I will manage everything myself... Just waiting for the death certificate, I will upload it here and lock the thread...

And I never meant that bitcoin debt ain't a debt by saying what I said...

Why do you feel a bitcoin debt is not a debt?  That is a big red flag to anyone that would consider loaning to you.

Don't you think it's better for friends and family to shoulder the debt of your father's death instead of complete strangers? 

I do earn ~0.4 BTC a month which is why I asked everyone here to let me start repaying after one month so that I may be able to have some BTC on hands for the interest repayment purpose...

I might not, and this answer's based on the truth that I ain't doing any jobs, I am jobless currently...
But of course, if I might have been doing job, I could repay without signature campaigns...
I got a proposal yesterday from a friend online, for a writing job and he has AdSense installed in his site, so whatever revenue gets generated, 60% will be of him and 40% will be mine...
My father's funeral has been paid for, but it wasn't me who paid everything... They were my friends who helped me out in that situation, but I don't want debts of anyone which is why I need this to repay them currently... And I know that nobody needs BTC10 for any funeral procedures anywhere in the world, I also mentioned somewhere here that I want to secure a few months so that I may get a real-life job in a month or two and use those funds too to repay here...

I will get death certificate in 2 - 3 days, I will then upload it here for everyone who doubts that I am going to run away and won't repay...

You may have every intention to pay but you will have struggled. I doubt you're earning anywhere near 0.5btc currently so imagine how much more you would have had to post. Would you have been able to pay if you were no longer able to earn from signature campaigns? Also, if your fathers funeral etc has been paid for what do you need the money for?

Can understand, and which is why I even thanked you for stopping me before I take a step which might prove to be the biggest mistake of mine...
Still I think I can repay, but no worries if anyone not interested in helping...
I just wanted to prove my innocence as I was being put into the balustrade for no reason, just wanted to prove that I ain't a scammer, will upload the main death certificate of my dad as soon as I get it from the Panchayat Bhawan...

You may be telling the truth about your father but that doesn't mean to say you would have paid the whole amount back if you had've got it. You seem to be struggling with the 2 you currently have borrowed so 12 would have been a mammoth task and that's assuming signature campaigns even last a couple of years.

Guys, I went to the Panchayat Bhawan yesterday, they asked for the FIR (Punchnama) copy so we went to Police Station for the same...

Gave that copy to them, they said that they have registered my father's death at that time and they will handover the death certificate to me in 3 - 5 days... I have taken their number and as soon as I get the death certificate, I will upload it here for all of you to see that I am not telling any lie here...

Whether or not may I get any help, I am not at all interested in being called a scammer at any cost...
So please, don't judge people before knowing the whole thing...

We did not take pictures of the corpse (dead body) during that day...
But I am uploading my father's death certificate that the doctor gave me (have my username and today's date on it), the receipt that I got from crematorium & my dad's photo that we currently have at home for grief...

Death Certificate by Doctor:

(with flash)



(without flash)



Crematorium Receipt: (Language is Gujarati so maybe a problem for those who don't understand it)



Dad's photo:



The main death certificate that I will get from Panchayat Bhawan is going to take some time, after 2nd September, 2015, I will be able to move ahead for the main death certificate as I am currently busy in ritual procedures remaining till that date...

Okay, I can understand your skepticism, your warnings and even your care & concern for me...
As said before, I am not interested in any helps, I will manage it on myself as I now know that it's all my responsibility and I need to take it on my shoulders...
Sorry, I was stressed out due to which I took this decision to go for this... But now I understand that some decisions in hurry might prove to be the biggest mistake ever committed...

And yes, about the certificate, I will upload them in 2 days as promised to prove that neither am I a scammer, nor am I speaking lies...

But that's not how long cons work. They build trust with smaller loans then try go for the big job. Sure you might not scam for 0.1 or so but 10btc is an entirely different matter, not to mention you have over 2btc curently borrowed. We don't even know if you're going to pay that back yet. Your account is worth around 0.2 so you could easily just abandon it at any point to avoid having to pay anything  back and the liklihood of this happening increases drastically if you got the further 10btc. Why even bother spending 2 years tediously working hard to pay your debts when you could just abandon ship and use one of your alts? You may or may not be a scammer but one thing is for sure is that you're quickly building up massive debts that you are going to struggle greatly to pay back.


You have a history of using similar personal issues as reasons for the loans and these could just be sob stories to get sympathy and they seem to have worked so far so why not continue? I'm not sure what verification MZ has done to verify your stories but perhaps he just believes whatever you say.


What happens when more unexpected problems arise? More loans?


Uploading a death certifiicate would help corroborate your story by wouldn't prove you're not a scammer. Only time will tell on that front. We dont really know if you're even going to pay back the current money owed and this could be your last ditch attempt to grab what you can before you ditch the account. As I said before even if all what you say is true and you have every intention of paying back all the money you are still going to struggle with the burden of doing so and if signature campaigns get banned then you're screwed and that's why I'm sceptical and think your entire proposals are very bad ideas.

I can understand that it is not possible for anyone here to trust me based on my current reputation, but if I would have been suspicious and if I would have to take loans and run away, I could have done that way before...

But I am already repaying, it doesn't make any sense for anyone here to suspect me based on what they see as they don't know actual truth, as MZ said, we have been into private chats which is why anything wasn't shown in public here...

Anyways, MZ and Marco had been my Godfather whenever I needed any help, and I even repaid them some amounts...

I know I took time before, but as MZ already said, was already facing some problems and never expected this would happen...

@hilariousandco,
If you think I am a scammer, please give me 2 days, I will upload the death certificate which doctor gave me after my father's post-mortem...
I do not have any problems if nobody here is interested in helping me out in this situation, as already declared before, I am now completely ready to take it on myself, run my family on my own as I will now go for a real-life job next month...

If you can't help, at least wish me luck to get a secured job so that I will be able to repay everything sooner to those 2 who have already helped me before...

Most of 'em. In case, somehow if he is scam, I can file a case. I have his personal information. Honestly, its not that hard to find his IRL identity. He does not seem like a person who thinks of his privacy to me.


He owes me 1.1BTC.


Probably.

I don't think anyone has ever tried to collect a bunch of money from various users all at the same time and then run away. Has anyone ever heard of that happening? /s

I think both of the outstanding loans are especially suspicious and something doesn't make sense why he would be trusted with so much money when others aren't trusted with 1/4 as much with similar reputations.

It's very high and kinda bizzare that people keep giving him more money and he's now asking for even more. If he's struggling to pay back 2btc then he's certainly going to have issues with 10+. Something isn't right here.

From the looks of it, he owes MZ 1.04 and marcotheminer.5 although marcotheminer told me that he is owed ~1 BTC, so there might be another private loan.

I think this is a very high amount for his reputation

Did you verify any of his stories? You do realise 'death in the family' is usually the first excuse people go to when they're having difficulties paying something back. He also seems to give the family/personal issues line for most of his previous loans. How much does he currently owe you and Marco?

We have been in communication before I loaned him and we still are. He has been in a hard time and now its worse. No, he has not repaid it but IIRC, he proposed his accounts(except gkv9) as collateral* but I did not accept it. I don't like to farm accounts and he needs more money to repay.

* There was some terms which I don't want to disclose.


You are right! I am giving him as much time as possible. It would have been faster because his father was getting a job. However, the death was unfortunate!

Did he ever repay you? I don't see that he has posted in your thread since he got the last 0.04, and your summary page says that the due date is "when he repays"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11407115

This also might be relevant -- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11107506.


He told me too! TBH, he actually told me to post from any of his accounts(except gkv9) but I refused.

Yes, the post from Marco's thread is correct...
I am a very transparent person, and will always say truth whatever you will ask...

He contacted me on Skype to let me know that the OP has the ability to repay from posting (and that the OP has ~1BTC loan with him).

It is difficult to know if the OP has repaid the loans he took out because of such heavy reuse of his address.

I guess this had to be between us which is why I told this to you in private...

Where did he claim this? PM? Not sure why Marco would vouch for him, and if he was surely he could just lend a big chunk of the money to him? According to Marco's thread there seems to be two active loans for slightly over 1btc but the repayment dates seem to have long passed so not sure if they're still relevant:



We're not saying you're a scammer, we're just being skeptical. You might have every intention of paying this back but you could still run into trouble paying it back for numerous reasons. How much do you currently have loaned out? Is the post above from Marco's thread correct?

Can understand that my loan's outstanding, but already had conversation with Marco regarding the same and for repayment too...
Anyways, I don't want anything from here anymore, I will try and manage everything from somewhere else...
It's about my dad's respect now, and so I don't want anyone's help here...
People don't even think before saying anything that what someone's suffering from...
And that's totally fine, I can understand that there are scammers out everywhere...
But that doesn't mean that everyone out here is the same so-called scammer...

Marco did try to vouch for him last night (I was proactively contacted about the OP by Marco). I haven't been able to verify the loan from MZ although I haven't looked into it.

One other thing I forgot to mention, the OP claims to have 4 hero accounts, also didn't try to look into it as 4 hero accounts are worth <2BTC.

Taking out previous loans for smaller amounts doesn't in any way guarantee that you will pay a larger amount back. This could just be a classic long con. If you've already got 1btc loaned out from Marco then that is also worrying and I agree with QS that it's weird you would get such a loan in the first place without any collateral (though I'm sure he could just take it out of your signature earnings). I'm really not sure if MZ or Marco would vouch for this other than that you paid their previous small loans back.

The OP claims that he has taken loans from Marcotheminer and MZ. Marcotheminer claims that he has a 1+ BTC loan outstanding. I'm not sure why he was trusted with so much money.

OP claims he will use signature campaign earnings to repay the loan. Based on ~100 posts per week, it would take ~2 years just to repay principle. In that time lenders could earn nearly the same amount on bitfinex and would likely be able to withdraw almost on demand (there may be some delays if swaps are for more then 1 day).

I am not sure if the OP seriously thinks he will get this loan although he did ask me to fill the entire amount prior to him creating this thread.

Your original request of my dad's just died, send me donations was begging whether you want to admit it or not. I've lost count of how many times people have a similar story. Granted, they usually make no offer to pay it back but even an offer is hollow until you do pay it back and many newbs who try get loans always promise to do so but we know they very likely wont.


Well that will certainly add merit to your claims but I still don't think you're likely to get anywhere near the amount you are requesting if any at all.


They can vouch for you in what way? They know that you're telling the truth and will pay the money back? Are they willing to stake their reputations on the line for this, or are you just saying you've previously borrowed and returned money from them so they can vouch for that?


I didn't say you were spamming but your posts are not exactly of the highest caliber either, but once you have a debt of 12btc you need to quickly pay back things will very likely change. You will be under immense pressure to make the required posts every month and I don't think the burden of that will be healthy for you. 12btc divided by 24 months is 0.5 a month. Have you been making 0.5 a month from your signature? That's 500 posts a month on your current campaign to keep up with repayments. If you did get banned or lose access to your account or whatever than you're essentially screwed. And judging people by their posting history is all we really have on here. I'm not saying you're a gambling addict or anything but as others have brought up it should be taken into consideration and skepticism is healthy in these types of situations. Also, briefly looking at your tips you don't seem to be having much luck. If you're betting on your own tips everyday and losing then that could be cause for concern. You wouldn't be the first person to take out loans on here under false pretenses and then lose the money gambling (again, not saying this is what will happen but it should be taken into consideration I think).


When you're forcing yourself to make the required posts that might change. Also, what are you going to do if signature campaigns get banned or bitcoins value drops or skyrockets?


Well those are terms prospective lenders will have to be fine with, but even if you have the bestest of intentions you're still going to struggle to keep up your end of the deal and I'd seriously reconsider what you're asking for here.


You can lock it yourself at the bottom left if you wish.

One more thing Mods, please delete this thread as now it's getting more harsh on me to even take it...
Now, it's about respect... Some people think I have no respect for my dad, so please delete this thread as it's not just about my reputation, it's about my Dad now...

I am not at all interested in getting anything from anyone here now...
Thanks a lot for all the insults you all did to me...
Will always remember this...

MODS, PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD...

Thought I should ask community as I felt they are my family, but I guess I was wrong...
Anyways, don't teach me about respect, I have a lot for my father which is why I didn't beg for tips and went for loan, that too upon the suggestion of some highly reputed members...

Anyways, when it comes to self-respect, I am locking this thread and now I SERIOUSLY BEG EVERYONE TO PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY BTC TO MY ADDRESS, I WILL MANAGE ANYTHING ANYHOW FROM ANYWHERE...

You know what guys, it hurts... And I will always pray that God won't show you days I am suffering from...

God bless everyone...

I know and I can understand, but all I have to say is, I have no collateral, but I will repay anyhow...
It's all about help, if done through heart, will even fructify my life...
Else, if it's not from heart, I BEG You to please don't send anything, as my days ain't good & I don't want to make them any more worse in any means...

Don't want anyone's help who's having wrong intentions in mind...

What does that even mean?

I lost my father a while ago, a hugely traumatic experience. I am trying to understand how I would have been prompted, in my grief, to go on an internet forum and ask for a $2,500 loan.
And I can't.

Hilarious has nailed the situation imo.
If you have any self respect or respect for the memory of your father, you should seriously think about deleting this thread.

Your reputation isn't enough to build confidence for lenders to give you a 10BTC loan especially without collateral..

God Bless You friend, nothing else to say...

Begging is not allowed bro.

You don't have any reputation and one of the two people vouching for you makes loans to himself

You are wasting your time here asking for any kind of loan. If you can't offer any valuable collateral then you should ask your bank for a signature loan.

Dooglus might be able to give you a loan

Ain't begging, but asking for help as this ain't just another story, but this is real life and I lost him in real life... I know what I am facing...


I will be able which is why I asked for such high-amount that too for long-term...


Not just death certificate, but even my and my father's identity proof such as election card & PAN card, and also electricity bill... As soon as I get the death certificate from Panchayat (Legal Government Authorities), I will upload it... Until then, I am ready to upload the certificate what Doctor wrote...


Marcotheminer & Muhammed Zakir are the two most reputable persons here who can vouch for me...


Why do you think I am spamming??? I have been very honest by giving all my tips for free just like every other tipster who is doing the same thing & I know I have made many posts in gambling thread, but does that mean that I am a total gambler??? How can you judge me based on my posts???

I don't think my account will ever get banned as I am contributing to the community...
And I am sure I will repay everyone in full, Sir...
If you think I argued, I am sorry, but I didn't argue, you wanted some reasonable reasons, which I provided...

I ain't begging at all, just asking help, as begging doesn't include repayment, beggars don't repay but I am here to repay everyone...
Okay, if you think that all my posts in Gambling alone would let me get banned here, I promise everyone here that I will make 20 posts in different threads excluding Gambling section daily to complete those 100 posts (if the limits will be removed) and unless limits are there, I will make 50% of my total 100 posts in other sections during week's period...

Will that be fine???

How is this any different from any other begging with a sob story? Why should anyone believe it? Do you have any reasonable proof of what you're claiming? It's silly to offer future signature payments over two years because signature campaigns could get banned long before that then what? How much do you normally earn from signature payments each month? Lets face it, it's not very likely you would repay 10btc if you got it, but you wont. At most you might get one or two people feeling sorry for you but no where near the amount of ten btc and trying to get smaller amounts from 100 users isn't going to work.


No, it's in the long-term offers section where it belongs, but I doubt you would be able to repay this back under the terms you stated  even if you did get the full amount.


ID as in death certificate? I think if you wanted to be taken seriously this would be a good idea but I still think you're wasting your time.


Such as?


They're pretty much all for gambling. I'm surprised you're even getting paid for those posts to be honest. What happens if your account gets banned for spamming? This really isn't a reasonable request at all.

Even I am sorry for your loss friend...
I am trying all my sources to get things done, but not able to manage which is why I thought to go ahead for this as some very reputed members of this community suggested me to go for this as even they can't loan this big amount at one stroke...

As said, 1000 members of this community can even help by sending BTC0.01 as I have already mentioned that I am not certain upto any amount, anyone who wants to help can send any amount and post regarding the same here...

There are more than 500,000 members here, can't I expect even 1000 to come ahead and send some to help me out???



Yes, I can understand that... I know people won't believe but I have already mentioned that if anyone wants, I am ready to upload my and my dad's identity documents for everyone to be assured that I am not going anywhere...

Guys, I am seeing a "Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose." above the title...

So they think I am trying to run a Ponzi here or scam here...

Okay Mods, if that's what you guys think, let me prove myself to you...

If people here are ready to help me in my current situation, I am ready to upload my and my father's identity documents here so that everyone must be assured that I am not a scammer...

Also, as said previously, I have very important people of the forum to vouch for me if you guys want...

sorry for ur lost friend..
well i just lost my father last month, i know that feeling that not enough money to funeral or something more after dont have dad, but still i try alot way to find money for my dad funeral even work part time at night and i only have 1 sister that 16 years old! (im 30) that she cant help anything, my mom she not working.. i feel that life bro.. but instead of asking here for tips or loan.. why not try borrowing from friend at real life? as u can payback them as u offer here?
its not were hesitating, is 10BTC story asking here, even you said u will pay, who will believe you?  for me its hard to earn 0.1 BTC even for 1 week..

people are hesitant not because its a long term loan, but because you do not and cannot offer collateral for this large loan youre attempting to take out. if you dont mind the high interest rate, a p2p lending site like btcjam might be your best bet. having no collateral will get you nowhere on this site.

good point as well.

words dont really mean much to people in this section, especially when youre asking for a couple thousand dollars upfront.

Dude, I know what you mean... But the only reason is that, I have been providing free tips till date and never ever charged anything to anyone and have been profitable always except Horse-Racing as it's been profitable to me as I knew how to bet and with what %...

Let's not get off-topic and talk what we are here for...

If you can help, that's fine and I will be highly obliged under your debt of showing such humanity to me...
If not, I won't mind as it's your choice...

another point to add is if any one look at your post history people will back off reason is 80% of your posts are related to betting suggestions. I think you should be knowing what I mean.

I know why people are hesitating, it's just because the term for the loan is big enough, but I hope everyone understands what situation I am facing, come ahead and help me get out of it...

As said, I am asking just one week/month's earnings of yours, I know they are hard-earned BTC which is why I moved for loan and not tips... Please come ahead and help...

Somewhat, I mean some funds will be used for ritual procedures and remaining for some months to be secured by my side for me to be able to show my mother that my dad's still there with us, and I am capable of handling every situation that we are facing currently...

The money would be for teh funeral??

Don't worry, I can understand that...
Which is why I wrote there that I am not looking for any big one-sided loan from single person, if it comes from many people, that would be fine too...

That 100 people was just example, even 1000 members can help by giving BTC0.01 as loan, I am not looking for a certain single amount itself like as I said BTC0.1, not necessarily I meant that...

Sorry for your lose dude but i can't help any to you at this moment

Repayments are weekly, BTC0.12 a week, and I will start repaying from next month...
Thanks for reminding me about this, I am going to put this in the OP too...

You also forgot to mention when you will start replying means your first repayment starts from when? is it from next week or next month or after couple of months?

It ain't like I am here after 7 days, I have been trying a lot from different people for direct loans, but they suggested me to go for this...
And finally, I decided to do this...

I don't have any precious items to sell, instead I won't have asked for money here...
Look, I know my relatives will always taunt me for whatever help they will do to me, which is why I ain't asking them and I have trust in my Bitcoin Community and myself that I will be able to repay, which is why am asking about it here...

If you can help, please go ahead, will always be obliged I got helped from this community...

No one can lend me BTC10 at once, which is why I want that at least people should come ahead, get involved and give some parts if they can help voluntarily...

I have people to vouch for me in this case that I will repay for sure...

I am sorry for your loss.

But can ou tell me just one thing, why after 7 days you are here, and moreover why dont you sell some precious items and arrange money ?

Hey guys, I have just one thing to say, I lost my dad on 22nd August, 2015 (Saturday)... He got a heart-attack at his workplace, it was sudden and so he got dead on the spot... I even went for Post-Mortem to know the actual reason, and according to Doctors, it was heart-attack only...

He was already dead before he was taken to the hospital...

For your reference, I have already posted about this few days back in Meta, but it was moved to Off-Topic by mods, I can totally understand that...

Reference to that thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-dad-sunil-arora-is-no-more-1160356
TITLE: My Dad "SUNIL ARORA" is no more... (Topic locked)

For Reference about my father's death certificate, crematorium receipt and dad's photo, please go here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12282596

I asked for tips there, but there seems nobody interested in helping by tipping me...

Now, all I want to say is, can I expect just 100 members of this forum to come ahead and give me BTC0.1 as loan
I am ready to repay BTC0.12 for each BTC0.10 that I will get, and it will be repaid on first come first repaid rule...
All in all, I will repay 20% of whatever I will get from whoever... I don't want it hard and fast, nor I want it from one person alone, which is why I am asking for many members to involve into helping me in this worst situation of my life...
Repayments are weekly, BTC0.12 a week, and I will start repaying from next month...

Also, I need time of 2 years for complete repayment based on my current signature earnings...
I know my reputation ain't enough for this, but I assure you people that I will repay everyone for sure...
I will update this OP with complete list of lenders whoever will send me BTC...
Whatever I will get through my signature campaign, I will repay everyone one by one based on the list that I will have here, and will also update it as Repaid once I send BTC back to lenders...
What I am asking you is, your 1 week's sig camp earnings... It is all I am asking, can you guys do this much to me???
Even if you are a Full Member, you might already be earning BTC0.1 a week or two, if you feel I deserve your help, please go ahead and send the BTC to the address mentioned below, and please follow the steps after that for your repayment:

13CZj5mHbrh3mAyjBZ3yCfKKeFUsfsrDC9

Steps to be followed by lenders:
1). Send the BTC to the mentioned address above...
2). Post the Bitcoin txn id and your address from which you sent the BTC and also send Repayment Address at which you want your BTC back, else
      I will repay on the same address from which I will have your BTC...
3). You also need to send a PM to me with all the details, don't worry, your repayment time will be based upon the post that you will make here
      and not PM...

Username              Bitcoin Address                          Txn ID                                         Amount                                 Repayment Address