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Quote from: Delightcrypto1 on May 16, 2021, 03:06:55 AM

Quote from: skyline247 on March 30, 2021, 02:36:43 PM

I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

A defaulted loan with proof of the transaction is clear enough proof. It's obvious the account is mine, but also obvious the admin &/ mods don't care, so nothing we can do. What goes around comes around.

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Quote from: Delightcrypto1 on May 16, 2021, 03:06:55 AM

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

^ Nice work, sherlock!

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Quote from: skyline247 on March 30, 2021, 02:36:43 PM

I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

In retrieving your account you need to show a clear proof that you are the real owner of the account.

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Quote from: skyline247 on April 20, 2021, 07:05:44 PM

Quote from: nutildah on April 19, 2021, 02:40:22 AM

Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

Did you see the proof that the account is mine, and think about how it felt last time somebody stole something from you?

Did you ask yourself why you are promoting theft, scams & other degenerative behavior on this forum while trying to act like a hero?

The account isn't "yours" in more ways than one. Technically, all accounts belong to theymos who can snuff anybody out on a whim, and they won't have any legal recourse, just as you don't now.

I just asked you the question because it looks like you weren't in control of the account you are currently typing from until very recently.

Quote from: skyline247 on March 30, 2021, 02:36:43 PM

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked.

Probably should have done this back when you had control of the account.

The real takeaway from all this is that Cryptios weighs ownership of email address as much as staked address when determining whether or not to award somebody control of an account. Which is not unreasonable IMHO.

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Quote from: nutildah on April 19, 2021, 02:40:22 AM

Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

Did you see the proof that the account is mine, and think about how it felt last time somebody stole something from you?

Did you ask yourself why you are promoting theft, scams & other degenerative behavior on this forum while trying to act like a hero?

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Did you recover the skyline247 account recently? It seems like it belonged to an absolute shitposter from 2017-2020. It's really weird that the shitposter also controlled the Razick account. Your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that it appears your account was also recently recovered.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on April 16, 2021, 11:41:18 AM

I guess these are the reasons why people stopped taking accounts as collateral, after all, an account is just an identity on the forum, and its "monetary" value exists only as long as there are the sig campaigns and bounties... It's useless else (for the account buyer). It's like giving bank my passport as security for loan Grin

collaterals should be those whose value exist for as long as human beings live! A better move for you would have been, had you made the account seller sign a message with the same btc address which you told to remove and make him sign that "this account is being given as collateral and is *insert your name's*" then they couldn't even recover it with the staked address had they defaulted the loan.

Regardless of could have, should have, we have proof. The fact we have proof the account is mine negates that he signed the message.

The real question is, why doesn't a mod simply transfer ownership back? Or message the person recovers accounts.

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I guess these are the reasons why people stopped taking accounts as collateral, after all, an account is just an identity on the forum, and its "monetary" value exists only as long as there are the sig campaigns and bounties... It's useless else (for the account buyer). It's like giving bank my passport as security for loan Grin

collaterals should be those whose value exist for as long as human beings live! A better move for you would have been, had you made the account seller sign a message with the same btc address which you told to remove and make him sign that "this account is being given as collateral and is *insert your name's*" then they couldn't even recover it with the staked address had they defaulted the loan.

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What I have to tell you is that you should let the account go op, and you should forget the account because the time it will take you to recover the account can't be something you will grabbed so easily, instead it will lead you into frustration, because according to information's rendered here that account is linked to the existing account which is the one complaining or reporting, the mistake has occurred and retrieving or tracing the account is not something that will happen so fast if really you want to move further for the account, because no evidence that shows that the belong to you for now.

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Quote from: skyline247 on April 12, 2021, 06:11:17 PM

Or you could keep ignoring the fact that the account is clearly mine, there is proof that it is mine, and therefore it should be returned to me.

Let me get this straight. You claim that the account was stolen from you because you allegedly financed the loan where that account was collateral?

Then how do you explain that both accounts were identified as part of the same account farm and a tagged for cheating in bounty campaigns and spamming (as dkbit98 has already mentioned)?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=410526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=75386

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Quote from: JeromeTash on April 10, 2021, 04:04:48 PM

Quote from: skyline247 on April 09, 2021, 09:02:02 PM

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

Good luck recovering it minus the original email address.

Quote from: Caross on April 10, 2021, 03:46:50 PM

Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account because you are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery. If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

Or he should just create a thread in the reputations board showing that the original owner of the account defaulted a loan and therefore the account should be tagged because I don't think he will get the account back.

He's too stubborn to accept the fact, but time will tell.

Or you could keep ignoring the fact that the account is clearly mine, there is proof that it is mine, and therefore it should be returned to me.

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Quote from: skyline247 on April 09, 2021, 09:02:02 PM

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

Good luck recovering it minus the original email address.

Quote from: Caross on April 10, 2021, 03:46:50 PM

Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account because you are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery. If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

Or he should just create a thread in the reputations board showing that the original owner of the account defaulted a loan and therefore the account should be tagged because I don't think he will get the account back.

He's too stubborn to accept the fact, but time will tell.

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Its within your legitimate right to ask mod to delete old posts from the account because you are the new owner of the account and to prevent future dreamers such as this you need to take the percussion which you did by trying to delete stake wallet for recovery. If you channel your complaint to the mod I believe you should be able to reclaim the account back.

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Quote from: alanst on April 07, 2021, 07:48:59 AM

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Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

I think the answer was clear enough. Our aim is to always provide the accounts back to their original owners. So if a user goes through the recovery process successfully and proves that he is the account creator, the account is returned to them.

It's my account, it doesn't belong to the original owner, they tricked the mods. You have no point.

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Quote from: skyline247 on April 07, 2021, 04:25:41 AM

What does it matter?

It matters because while you were absent. He easily managed to recover the account minus any objection from you.

Quote from: skyline247 on April 07, 2021, 04:25:41 AM

It was when i obtained it.

The time you obtained the account doesn't really matter. The recovery procedure is pretty much strict and one of the most important requirements is writing to them using an original email the account was used for registration.

Right, they successfully tricked the mods. What's your point?

I don't expect the mods to read every post to see if the account was used as collateral. All i'm asking is to get my account back.

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If you can't get your account back then you might have do this one which is go to profile and send a negative feedback and provide the proof that you own the account so that scammer as you have claim won't be able to use that account for signature campaigns and will most likely won't be trusted by anyone. The feedback should be clear that you are the owner and of course the proof too. Just a suggestion though.

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Quote from: skyline247 on April 07, 2021, 04:25:41 AM

What does it matter?

It matters because while you were absent. He easily managed to recover the account minus any objection from you.

Quote from: skyline247 on April 07, 2021, 04:25:41 AM

It was when i obtained it.

The time you obtained the account doesn't really matter. The recovery procedure is pretty much strict and one of the most important requirements is writing to them using an original email the account was used for registration.

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Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

I think the answer was clear enough. Our aim is to always provide the accounts back to their original owners. So if a user goes through the recovery process successfully and proves that he is the account creator, the account is returned to them.

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^ Recoveries might work only if the real owner wants it to be back and you can consider that it is your account anymore since someone proved the ownership but the user can get the red tag for defaulting your loan then the account will be useless in this forum anymore.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on March 30, 2021, 03:06:51 PM

It's been almost over a year since the TheRealRazick came here to claim ownership of the account. Where were you for all that long?

What does it matter?

Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 30, 2021, 03:16:47 PM

The 1st step is to have your account back.

Here you go, follow this guide: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovering-hackedlost-accounts-5089777

Thanks. Emailed and they didn't give a clear answer. There is no debate about this - it is my account.

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Quote from: skyline247 on March 30, 2021, 02:36:43 PM

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

Well sorry to tell you someone name onnz423 already answered your question four years ago in the same thread on August 03, 2017, 01:03:48 PM

Quote from: onnz423 on August 03, 2017, 05:03:48 AM

Quote from: skyline247 on August 02, 2017, 09:56:29 PM

Quote from: Starlightbreaker on August 02, 2017, 08:09:06 PM

Sorry but...are you joking or what?
Where is the .01BTC that you say that you send,because i don't see any transaction...

BTW...75% interest??? Shocked

OMG!!!

He asked for 0.16 BTC in private - I sent in 2 transactions of 0.08 as he requested. Wink

Yeah for sure he did, on the lending section signed messages, repayment addresses and such should be public.
Also if you really did lend him that amount, well then your money is gone, sorry to tell you that.
I don't see anyone coming back for account with negative trust, because it cannot join with most of campaigns so i would not say your lending service started on the best kind of light.

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The 1st step is to have your account back.

Here you go, follow this guide: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovering-hackedlost-accounts-5089777

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It's been almost over a year since the TheRealRazick came here to claim ownership of the account. Where were you for all that long?

I am not sure if you will be able to recover the account, but if there is proof that the owner defaulted the loan then the best thing to do is to create flags and leave some negative feedback on the profile

As of today accounts are not considered as collateral which means you might be granted the rights of ownership of the account

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I am the legitimate owner of the account Razick.

1. It was legitimately given as collateral after a 0.16 BTC loan was defaulted on by the original owner: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20576006

2. The original owner is being intentionally deceptive by trying to trick the mods into thinking i asked to delete an old post from 2015 with their public key, because "hacking".

Yes, i beat around the bush as to why i asked the post to be removed. I wasn't being maliciously deceptive, i was simply trying to protect the account as i foresaw something like this potentially happening where the old owner would attempt to "recover" the account, claiming it had been hacked. "White lies"

Please recover my account back from that scammer.

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