Topic: My Advise to Forum members on PMs offers (Read 639 times)

This is not something I would recommend for beginners. Since new users cannot use signature spaces, your advice won't be very helpful to them. In contrast to this time, when I haven't joined any campaigns for a while, I haven't received any PMs asking if I'm interested in turnkey online casino development services, which I ignore because the sender is a newbie. Instead, I have received PMs from the same forum user asking if I'm interested in casinos.

With PM offers, it would be best and highly advisable to utilize escrow when possible as another layer of scam protection.  Be vigilant and protect yourself at all times here to avoid unnecessarily parting with your bitcoin.

Yeah, I understand where you are coming from. They do not want their project to be in the spotlight too much and that is why they are attempting to advertise their project sneakily through PM offers. I would not accept the same offer if I do not see a thread of their project even if it is a legitimate one. Either it is a fake clone project or just something that wants to waste your time obviously.

The question users should ask is if they are expecting PM. This is the first thing to bear in the mind and if it is yes, if you check and see the pm from who you are expecting to receive PM you can click to know what is in it like expecting PM from campaign manager as some signature manager can do acceptance of application through the PM. But when you are not expecting PM from any one, you don't need to click on pm when you don't know the sender with being your friend in the forum. I ignore my PM alot because I'm not expecting it why do I click it? No reason except from trusted member and not all those from telegram call groups seeking membership to the fake group for their good.

Emphasizing on personal message (pm) is something everyone knows that it's for privacy, and i believe that anyone who received message from it's inbox knows what is obtainable, except that the person is a newbie, but actually this your information concerning personal message advantages and disadvantages don't have anything to do with newbies of the signature and avatar you included. Because newbies don't do with though thing's mentioned.

Probably that’s the reason because even myself I used to receive emails and PMs but mostly from gambling. But when it comes to using my signature or whatsoever, I have never experienced that. But for everyone’s safety, do not go for PMs immediately since they can be some sort of fraud or scamming. Research or investigate first so you will never have to regret later on.

To receive such offers, you must be a very well-known or extremely fortunate member. The only offers I ever get via PM are those from campaign managers, requests to join and post on specific gambling threads, and occasionally, requests from clients who wanted my services but left after receiving my budgets. They are a cheap project scammer looking for a cheap manager to oversee a possible scam project, lol. I don't care.

Op I'm curious why you accepted one of the low-paying signature campaigns despite receiving such a high-paying offer in PM. Is there anything I don't understand?

Threats are made from a position of weakness and of desperation. Most people who are quick to give threats are like the proverbial dog who doesn’t bark nor bite. Great to see you aren’t in the least bothered by those lot.

Most of the offer like this came from dev's which doesn't have enough budget and only want to pay users by their tokens created. They didn't create their own bounty thread because they don't have money  to pay for decent managers and they try to create huge impact by asking high ranking users to be their participants without paying any valuable assets came to their own pockets and most of this offers are 100% scams and glad didn't see any weird signatures inserted on some members so most provably this asking to wear methods didn't work at the moment since many for sure will decline the offer.

Those messages were harsh and threatening. The best approach would have been diplomacy, but they chose the wrong approach. If after reading those trash threats, you remove the minus tag, it just made you a coward. That is the more reason you will not consider to untag them. Besides, it seems one person is behind the two accounts because they use same format, same excuse and same threat.

I sent you a PM, a letter that was recently sent to me unpleasantly, although, of course, I try to delete rude messages. From your disbelief, I read all the BOS, and yes, most of the letters began with a request to remove the minus tags, but in some cases people are intemperate. And yes, of course, all threats are just words. I know that nothing will follow them, in addition, some tags are removed over time. And other especially hot guys can be sent to ignore. I always understand that threats come only from weakness and desperation.

It varies. You could receive offers through Telegram or from your inbox here in the forum. I ended up encountering from both platforms though I humbly decline since I do not have the time to review their projects or their ANN thread or even their main website.

Usually it is just the usual introduction to what their project is all about and sometimes they do put their main website, and sometimes they don't. They will offer you a payment of either a token or a stablecoin in an exchange. From how it ends up, I do not know since I declined.

Making offers for you to remove the negative tag in their profile is something that is understandable and something cheater can easily do because most of them think that money can solve all problems.
But then issuing a threat to you is something I don't know how they will be able to do that. Let me assume that a threat is a threat as it is called and it cannot be real. The only people that can give you a threat maybe you have a second thought about it are people from your local.
They must have known you in person or have an idea of the state or locality you live.
I will be glad if I can see a copy of the pm to know how the threats will be like.

Well, I have never received such an offer. I do however wonder how much these people usually offer you? If anyone has experience, I would love to know.

As far as scams go, anyone could get duped into promoting a scam project. We are all human, so there needs to be room for understanding... But if you continue to support a scam, even though people tell you its a scam then you will ruin your reputation and you will deserve the red trust, regardless of whether or not the signature was ok'd by a signature bounty manager. Furthermore, you should always do a minimal amount of research before you put their signature on your profile. Don't expect a manager to do it for you.

You had better be careful with the kinds of PMs you received, I've got so e scenarios of receiving unsolicited messages that i do end up reporting such shit and aside that, I don't still believe if they can pay more than the signature campaign here on the forum, if not they would have come out boldly to make expression of interest and open a bounty or signature campaign to back up their stand, be suspecious of anything too real to be truth, moreover i think you should have accepted one of their offers and do away with your signature campaign since you said it pays than sig campaigns.

Rather than putting up large body of text saying nothing to contribute to the discussions and just following a pattern of replies from members with the same fragile mindset as yours and just commenting to increase your post counts, i advise you to read the replies of those with knowledge and experience to learn and not just be jumping up and down trying to look smart saying nothing, this is not going to help you. Stick to what you know and stop jumping into discussions you have nothing to add. I come in peace!

Interesting enough, I have not encountered any PMs renting out my signature in order to advertise a certain gambling establishment, local exchange, or mixer.

Though there may be some forum users who post regularly, I have yet to encounter this kind of offer. But like what you mentioned, newbies cannot wear any signatures- so the offers of renting out their signature space cannot be made applicable to what OP is referring to.

The bottomline conclusion is- always be doubtful and skeptical. If you receive a random message informing you to invest or to try a certain wallet and/or links, be skeptical that it is a scam. Again, it is wholly better to prevent a scam than to cure a scam!

I believe that some users have received various kinds of PMs, while some are for promotional offers others may be threats from members who may have seen your activities as a threat to them, and most times those who send such threats are scammers who may have been exposed and tag by other members here most especially the DT members.

Not everyone in the forum does receive a pm for the rent of their avatar and signature space. Receiving it means you are a quality poster. Although there are members of the forum that openly rent their avatar and signature space for reputable projects. They should ask those people for the service of using their avatar and signature space if they are genuine than getting involved. That should be your best response to them to avoid promoting a project that will tag your account at the end. It will be a good idea not to get involved and to take chances that you will regret in the future.

For me, regardless of who made the PM if it’s newbie or a legend in the forum, the best thing to do is still to make DYOR and investigate the project. If it’s legit and is very promising, then you can bite the offer and see where will it lead you. But this is only happening occasionally, as most of the legit projects and reputable managers post it on the forum rather than making a PM to someone they are targeting. Still be cautious on that matter.

I don't really like the new way of accepting users through PM invitation. What of about the users that applied for the signature campaign? They will be ignored, that means, is there any need to create a campaign thread again? Since that is the best way, they can just invite by pm any user that is good in the forum to wear signature, avatar and personal text. This new development that is coming up in the forum is wrong. Let everybody go to the campaign thread and apply if they are qualify and interested to participate in the the campaign.

You are a lucky man and you may need to realize that you are the criteria they may be looking for here. I've never received the offer directly from a business owner, but a campaign manager once offered me a spot.

When it comes to business, you need to research before accepting a particular job ^{[newbies may not be familiar].} Sometimes it's hard to spot any form of fraud in the first place if the owner has prepared it as best he can to hide it from you or the community, but it can always end badly when the business doesn't do well or it may lose due to lack of interest. Need some experience with this, so the beginners section doesn't seem like a great place for this thread either, IMO.

I think you joined signature campaigns which I think because of you founding out that you can earn crypto by joining signature campaign such as this one I joined and also its different from gambling which you don't need to have capital before you can earn crypto. I would also advise newbies that doing your own research could help to answer some of your own question in mind about something such as signature campaigns.

I am just so who you are really referring to because you can't tell us that newbies really need all these advise you are trying to tell us who looks like you don't really know much a out this great forum before you will come up with advise which is just very funny to me. Maybe you are trying to advise those you know more than what you think you know.
Okay you write somethings about signature and accepting offers from dm and how it can be paying more than the normal signature we ha e here. That is unnecessary and I don't think anyone needs all these to stay alive. Just stick to your signature that is paying you are stop advising newbies when you are also one.

This is an experience I got in the forum but I didn't know how it works and I did not also bother to ask or raise a topic because the conversation was rightly dealt with.
I received a private message from someone I think it was a full member rank user, asking if I could rent out my signature space to promote their project here in bitcoin talk and reddit.

I can't actually remember how much they offered to pay me but then I was already wearing a signature.I  simply responded that I am already promoting another company, that maybe when I don't have a company to promote I will consider their request. They tried pushing the conversation further that I am a quality poster that I deserve more but I wasn't actually interested, so I found my way around to end the conversation thinking it was some kind of generic scam attempts in the forum.
It is now I am realising that that kind of offer could also be here. I'll have to search my pm for that conversation.

Before, I received some offers but mostly are in gambling. And since it needs a capital, so I end up hesitating and join signature campaign instead for sure profits. However, my advice for that is always DYOR before you take some actions. Not all offers could make you go wrong, as some are legit and reliable projects but you just have to trust them so you can also be rewarded. But to make it sure, once money is involved, always think a lot of time and do deep researching.

Offers sent via private messages are usually not serious enough, especially since the accounts that send these offers are new accounts.

There are new members of project owners who may be honest and do not know that by this behavior they raise suspicions about the credibility of their projects, but unfortunately there is no way to verify this.

Well some do attach their ANN thread so that would be your judge if it was a scam or nah. I had few users contacting me to rent my space, but I am not taking any for now since I do not have the time to check the project that they are trying to promote through me.

Usually the offer are through some stablecoins with a fixed amount, so that is that.

I once saw a thread like that in the service board where it was written on the title something like; signature space and avatar for rent, if I’m not wrong. I’ve never opened to check what it is all about but this post just gave me a clearer understanding of what it means. I don’t know there’re such offers coming for people to rent out their signature space or avatar.

I think one needs to be very extra careful of what they promote when they receive such offers. It is better you work under a reputable manager in the forum rather than falling bait of promoting a scam project which will tarnish your image and account in the forum. That should be the worst nightmare you would want to avoid here; promoting a scam project you know nothing about, not getting paid and at the end losing your trust in the forum.

You getting promotional messages inbox OP is your luck and destiny. I know campaign managers do that to members they think are exceptional posters. But I did not know other random members also pm people on that too.


That is serious. But what do those who make threats online aim to achieve? Do they expect that such threats can shake someone up or what? What kind of a threat will that be. Someone who they may not even know where he resides, and you are threatening to do them harm? That is funny.

This is the first I have seen someone openly talk about this. I have never received any such pms about promotions or anything of the sort. Legit companies who want their advertising done on the forum know the service board is where they can find reputable bounty/campaign managers, some may choose to create their own forum account to manage the campaign themselves. If you’re getting the offers you say you’re, then you must be doing something right maybe in the gambling or casino threads.

Everything has its advantages and disadvantages,in the aspect of currency fiat or crpto, Bitcoin is the best and everyone is financially free when using bitcoin because of it decentralization. Some persons have chose to make bitcoin their business and don't mind about the votality of it,those are people that loves bitcoin and depend on it no matter its price.

Not everybody depends on it since not everybody is using it,what you depend on are your basic needs,which means you cannot do without them. Peoples can stay without bitcoin, before 2009 the world was trading and everything was OK just the way things are now.

I don't think so they will be having an ANN thread here on the forum as they are directly trying to contact people and in most cases these are scam projects trying to promote themselves here on the forum but personally I haven't received any such PM and don't know about how they work but it can be estimated that what are their actual intentions.The legit projects would go through campaign manager only and find really good participants for promotion unlike these attempts.

At that time there were hundred of projects trying to raise funds and in the lore they see you as legendary rank member and if you accepted the offer it would have helped them to promote their shitcoin and make people fool but you did what was right and this is what they deserve in reality.

OP, judging by how often you get promotional offers, you're one of the lucky ones. I only receive threats from desperate cheaters and offers to remove negative tags. You somewhat contradict what the forum suggests in the rules. Sending private messages is not the best rule of forum etiquette. On the contrary, the user should be suspicious, and it is not recommended that they follow the suggested links.
Let's not give hope to users, and even more so to beginners, by the fact that one day they will receive a profitable offer in the PM. Your correction that the newcomer will become a legend in the future is correct, but for this, he needs to go a long way, and of course, he will be able to figure everything out later.
I agree, and I know of cases where the managers of two highly paid subscription companies offered participation to some users. But these were very rare cases, and the people themselves were of high rank.
But from your signature, it looks like you're still picking the best deal. Good luck!

I've had at least one encounter of this kind and if my memory servers it was during the 2017 shitcoin mania where I received a PM (as a legendary member who have been bashing these shitcoin makers!) to help advertise a shitcoin they were trying to scam people with and get paid in that shitcoin no less
Suffice it to say that the answer they received was my middle finger.

Sending PM to offer your service, your open position to work for someone, for any company is prohibited by the forum.

Rules say it is not allowed and if receivers of your PM report you, you will be banned temporarily.

Depends on how many PMs you sent and how serious, how often you sent them, your ban will be shorter or longer. Not all receivers will report the senders but if they report you, ban is coming.

This will depend on who makes the offer. If it is an untrusted newbie, then that's immediately a red flag. But if it's an untrusted newbie who's willing to put payment funds in a reputable escrow, then it might be legit. But there is also a need to take a look at the company or service that is to be promoted.

Also, it is possible that an offer comes from a known campaign manager here. I know, for example, that there are signature and avatar slots that are offered through PM even though the same is also being posted on the services board. Others might only be offered through PM and recommendations.

You are not alone in this as some members send personal message with their offers, alot of pms are send but most time the offers come from scam prohects that want to introduce their site here but their dont want to come out clean, so i will advise tou stay off them even account sellers too they usually send tgeir offer through personal messages before diverting you to telegram for the final scam.

For several years, I was offered to advertise several suspicious DeFi projects. These projects have probably already closed due to reduced demand. And if I agreed, I would have received negative reviews.
If some sugnature campaigns close after a few weeks, then it is very difficult to hope for long-term contracts. Most likely your account will be used in fraud.

I highly doubt that this was born out of your personal experience.
Admittedly, it’s slightly possible for you to receive a business offer through a PM, I think your chances are extremely slim but then you claim to have received several offers, so I may be wrong

I do not think offers to rent out signature and avatar space are as plenty as you would have us believe and very few hero and legendary members get such requests. Your write up has no information and gives no value to newbies and beginners on the forum.

On your disadvantages,
1. If you do a proper research, you would know scam projects to stay away from.
2. I think a reputable and genuine project would pay for services rendered to remain reputable and in good standing.

But it’s always good to put it out there on the need to do your own research on offers and practically anything you come across on the forum and on the web.

I have a feeling you don't understand what op is talking about, they aren't talking about member's sending pm's to bounty managers. On this forum there are members who advertise that their spaces are up for rent, and some that do not even make such advertisement but are approached through pm if they are willing to rent their spaces.

It may or may not be a company that already has a signature campaign, it could even be a member who wants to promote something here, but the terms of the agreement is between the member and whosoever approached them to rent out their spaces. An example is this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/available-legendary-signature-space-for-advertising-5304549

I’m not really acquainted with these offers through PM (I personally recall one at most). I’d have thought that they were made in relation to running campaigns on the forum, but if I’ve interpreted I correctly, the offers you have received through PM were not (no associated campaign thread).

Q1) Is that so? (no associated campaign thread)

Q2) Do they have at least an Ann thread here or alike?

What I’m trying to get at here, is to get an idea of whether this publicity has an associates a discussion framework within the forum or not of any kind.

Alright, can you tell me which user is offering his signature space for high price or you're the one who offer that?

I know there's few members in this forum wear a signature space about some projects but their name doesn't listed on the spreadsheet, but we're don't know how much the payment and which side is actually offer that.

You're just giving an assumption without a legit proof here, IMO campaign managers will just skip your application if you PM them or you could be blacklisted since you're wasting their time to read your messages.

Hey   stop being sarcastic here, sorry if i used the term Newbies as a point of reference to the messages am trying to make, there is no doubt the fact that the thread already passed the information am trying to passed and if you read through the entire body of this post, you will discover i pointed out and mentioned both newbie and old members. But i don't understand why most members that are commenting right now are missing the fact and the point that a newbie today will become a quality forum member in the future and what is between a newbie vs legendary member is the time and knowledge they gather that accumulated into their activities on the forum that make the difference.
I hope you read down to this point to be clear on the point I stressed out here.

Thanks @OP, now I learn newbie rank account can wear a signature space and get paid for high amount based on the agreement with the project owner or campaign manager

I think before you're talking about that's advantages, are you have offered someone about your signature space to get paid in high price? or are you know who's offer that via PM and get higher payout than the normal campaign payment? talking without any proof or based on your own experience is doesn't make sense.

I wouldn't say that this is suitable for newbies. Newbies can't use signature space so what you advise won't really work for newbies. This time my signature space is not available for other campaigns since it is used for rollbit as everyone can see but during my time when I didn't join any for quite some time, I never received PMs like that but rather received PMs from the same forum user about casinos asking if I am interested in turnkey online casino development services which I ignore since the sender is newbie.

This advice cannot be for n newbies because they cannot wear a signature and therefore the lowest rank that these offers may receive is the full member, but what is the point of creating this topic?

Rarely does an account have unique writing style that companies have to pay specifically to rent out their ad space.
Thus, scam may be the only motive if you receive such offers.

Who is going to offer newbies such offer? I mean signature space rentage request? I think that kind of offer would be given not even to just a better poster on this forum, but to one of the most known and recognized person.

Your advice to newbies should be about how to rank up and also how they can protect their account.

Only promotion of scam projects is what is possible, but I think such offers should only be accepted from a well know organization that has good reputation to certain level already. About the payment, how will you be put on signature of a company that has not paid you? If they can not pay due to lack of trust, they can escrow the fund. We have escrow service on this forum.

In that case, you can be considered a very important person on the forum, because I personally have not received a single offer of a similar type in the past few weeks. However, every business offer should be considered, and every PM that may be suspicious can be reported to admins.


You can be unpaid even if the offer is public, which is the case with some bounty campaigns that do not have funds in escrow. Risk always exists, and it's all about how much someone's reputation is worth, so if you agree to promote something for $20 a week, and it then turns into a scam, then it's your fault that you didn't refuse such an offer.

I'm not saying that payrate should always be the deciding factor, but I'd rather promote something I believe in for free than risk some cheap offer that could cost me my reputation at any moment.

This 'advice' can't be for newbies, they can't rent out their signature space because they can't set one, and they also cannot use an avatar, most of these privileges are for ranks of Full Member's and above, i know Member and Jr member rank can add a signature, but with limited design, and i don't feel anybody will pm member's of that rank to rent their spaces.

These offers are mainly for reputable member's, some of whom offer their spaces for rent in the services section, this is a non-issue by the way, and a member who takes up any offer of advertisement, either through PM or in a signature campaign run by a bounty manager has to research about what they are advertising, and fix a payment method that rules out the possibility of not getting paid for a long time.

This thread is born out of my personal experience and observations on PM offers on this forum.
For the past few weeks back I have received various offers through personal messages on this forum, asking me to rent out my signature, avatar, and personal text space to promote their brand on this forum so I went into research to access the risk and the benefits that will come with such offers. And I thought of dropping my views on PM offer here on the beginner and help section to help beginners and older members that may receive such offers through PM!

MY FINDINGS ON PM OFFERS
Advantages of PM offer:
1: Pm offer to rent your signature and avatar space is high paying than signatures campaign managed by a forum manager in most cases but not in all cases.
2: PM offer may be long term contract like 2 years offer
3: some offer to pay in advance but this is a rear situation it doesn't happen in most cases.

 Disadvantages of PM offer
1: possible promotion of scam projects that will destroy your reputation in this forum.
2: possibility of not getting paid since you are not under the management of any manager, or using an escrow.

Conclusion:
Newbie and other forum members should be careful and always do a due diligence investigation about any offer through you receive through your PMs as that is one of the ways some companies both legit and scam companies approach forum members to promote their project on this forum and i think for the sake of your forum reputation it is better you only enrolled on legitimate projects.