Topic: My apology to all. And please read the whole post before you do anything. (Read 684 times)

They know already. I asked their permission before sharing those information. And nothing of this is hidden as it is already accessible through their bounty works and I don't think this will upset them in any way. And yes this is the last of me you will hear from me on this topic. I have tried many things and nothing seems like to work here. So I won't bother anymore explaining the same thing over and over. I just share my last resource as evidence.
Thanks your advice tho. I think this is the best for everyone. Bye.

I know. I have understood that very well now. I am locking the topic now.

I think this is a point where we all agree that this thread gets moved to investigations board. There's way too much private information you have shared in this thread and if anything, you have doxxed your family members in the process to internet strangers.

All for what? To avoid the tags? It's not worth it.

It may seem minor right now because of the adrenaline rush you got in your body, but you might regret later. Think about it.

You are trying to prove yourself. I already told you to stop it. Nothing is going to help you right now, I wish it would though. The best course of action for you to start doing the things that leaves a legacy for you and others can admire you for it. The tags, doubts, confusions; everything will disappear in time. But the harder you will try to clean yourself now, you will find your are in more trouble.

Right now you are already gave a lot of information about two people on your above post which may be embarrassing for them or they may not like it if they discover it at any time. To clean your mess you can not do this to others.

A friend of mine introduced me to this forum and I introduced many of my friends to it too. This is why I find the friend/relative excuse plausible, depending on the case.
However, all those who invited to join bitcointalk created their accounts and read the rules by themselves. If I had the slightest doubt they aren't smart enough to figure out how to do it by themselves, I would have never invited them in first place.
I can't tell with total certainty whether OP is telling the truth or not, but I shared the above because some members deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.

OP, you provided all the evidences you could gather. I don't think there is anything else you can do right now. Just let it go and let others decide by themselves whether to believe you or not.

This is his facebook profile here Facebook profile username (shaden.manob) means (free man) And it's not a person's name. ask any Bangladeshi if you have access to talk to any. I won't suggest anyone here because you will say that i am doing it on purpose in order to give false information. His full name is Abdul halim. That's why his username is Halim50_. He works with a fake Facebook account with female name Angel mim  because it helps to generate more friends and followers.

He likes his own post with his fake account.
Have a look at this post. Read it, please.
you too.
As I have provided enough evidence on my alt accusation but my merit exchange still remains. And I also admitted to it. @yahoo62278 sir I didn't wanted to bother you again but here's all the evidence.

So if you guys want to accuse me again, then go ahead. I am just tired now.

I've also done a comparison of the pumpkin carving images - have a look and tell me what you think:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5416347

Regardless of everything you say, reasons, friends, relatives and so on, maybe those reasons are familiar to us, FACT: later on, they will admit to themselves that it's their Alt.

not a matter of disbelief, but the evidence says so, here you are not only blaming merit, pumpkin content, you are also caught involving Alt in the campaign: :{PAID} Escrow Protocol Meme Campaign | 2weeks | $1,500 Escrow, BNB prize bonus, fortunately the campaign period is over and the account @Anon joardar, has been inactive for some time.

The evidence below, you shouldn't do it, it violates the campaign rules, in the cheating category.

Proof:

Funny, laugh out loud.

Opinion: white light on nails looks the same, ha.ha.

tjtonmoy


halim50_

Halim is a male name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halim (Used in Arabic countries)

Tanvi is a female name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanvi (Used in India)

"tjtonmoy" is on twitter: https://twitter.com/TJTonmoy2 complete with link to their user profile https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tjtonmoy-3318288 (and is shit pumping every one-satoshi crypto gimmick under the sun)


Then there's Tonmoy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonmoy


(To be fair Tonmoy is a family name)

Joardar "is an Indian male name" https://www.schoolmykids.com/parenting/baby-names/joardar (as well as a family name)

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It wouldn't be too much of a stretch of the imagination to suppose the T + J in TJtonmoy stands for Tanvi Joardar Tonmoy - the very two letters in your own user name are the starting letters of two UID's you've been cross meriting.

I don't think you got anything to prove your point here and maybe the neutral tag will remain for the rest of the lifetime on your account. A neutral tag is completely okay imo, it will atleast remind everyone about your clutter created in the future, to decide for themselves how to deal with you. All you got to do is stay with it and dont mess up again. Best of luck!

I have decided to make my tags neutrals on both the accounts with the understanding that if the user fucks up just once i will reinstate the red tags. I don't want other users to feel like we opened the door for them to apologize and forgive them because it will give the wrong impression of how DT works and also make us all look naive as hell.

I do totally deserve it! If I was honest from the beginning and told everyone the truth, maybe I won't have to see this day... So thank you for tagging me.. This has been a great lesson for me!
Hopefully I can prove myself in the future so that you may remove the tag! thanks...!
And just one thing I want to add.. If you ever want the proof of ownership, you can ask me anything as a proof. I do not indeed own those accounts. If that may get my tag removed and give me a second chance.

So many things could and should get you tagged. Cheating the art contest, sending merits to your alt, and just deceiving users of this forum. Noone ever believes the it's my blah blah relations account and you admitted sending yourself merits. I see no reason not to tag you honestly. Even if the merit thing was overlooked, which it shouldn't be, you still cheated the pumpkin carving contest or art contest.

I am a very big advocate for cheaters being tagged. You are an adult and you know right from wrong and you are only sorry because you were scared of being caught. There is no remorse other than fear of not being able to use the forum freely. That IMO is not a valid excuse for your actions. You would never have told on yourself had you not been scared of being caught. For this I must treat you like every other cheater and tag you. Maybe I can reconsider the tag later on down the road, but we will cross that bridge at a later date.

Thank you for being honest, but you were not honest for the right reasons.

The OP has already admitted creating the accounts in question, which makes them his alt accounts. The act of exchanging merits between these accounts and participating in a contest with multiple accounts constitutes cheating. Should we believe that he no longer has control over these accounts? There is no evidence, such as log records of password changes, to suggest that these accounts have been transferred to other individuals.

So far no one has given you a tag, I doubt anyone will red tag you. This reminds of me of when naim027 was caught doing the same thing and he admitted to it. The community didn’t tag him then but his subsequent actions led him to getting banned. Recently someone raised concerns about the number of accounts (possible farm) that racked merits from the pumpkin contests, yours was one of the account listed. I get you want to leave your bounty days behind and contribute to the forum. Let your work speak for you

To be honest the excuse of brother and sister account is very common here. Because when someone is caught with an alternative account they give this excuse.

So this drama should end here. Because by looking at your history of merit exchange, it is easy to understand what can really happen behind the scenes. I feel like you haven't told the whole truth yet, what I understand from reading this whole post is a bunch of excuses.

What you did is done. You may did one or two mistake or many mistakes but when you had the gut to admit it, I will consider it forgivable. When someone seek opportunity, I am all to give it. If it is first mistake then they get second and may be third chance. But if it was not first mistake but after many mistakes they realized they need to make themselves clean then you have the last chance.

There are many mistakes you did so far. Some may be unknowingly and some willingly. The sent merit to your sister (if it is) then may be a mistake before you realized, As you said you never did that again, good. But the contest was not a mistake. And some other also were not mistakes. You continued because you thought you are not going to get caught. But since you are now under the net, it worth to see what you do after. If you can prove yourself a word keeper then no harm is going to happen. Even if anyone tag you now eventually they will remove it. But if you do the mistake again then I think everyone will realize that you did not learn anything.

By the way, sending merit to wife, child, brother, sister, girlfriend, boyfriend, sexfriend, analfriend, nanny, granny, cat, dog, lion, tiger are not prohibited. It's only discouraged as long as it's your own sMerit. If you were a merit source then it was a different discussion. However the community have a standard and from that standard sending merit to your alt is not something everyone will look from a white area.

Leave the board and stop responding everything. You have nothing to prove now, your action will speak in the future. Accept whatever happen now but make sure next time you are not in the mess again.

You can say whatever you want, but I have already told you the truth. Believing is up to you. I am tired by repeating myself over and over. Whatever you say won't make any difference. But just saying something without proper investigation looks so bad coming from you. Maybe you want to check all the evidence again.
I am not being rude here. Just saying that, before saying anything, you should have a proper look at what I have said already.

you may say that i am an idiot saying this but those campaign i worked for i did it on my own. and you can also check my post on social media if there's any similarity. other than that i can't say anything else to defend myself here. Those accounts does indeed belongs to other people.

To be honest I don't understand what's the real problem here and why you need to apology to the community?

I've read many users are pointing out if you're share merit transaction with your friend or assume it your alt account, send a shitcoins in one address and using same address. But there's no once pointing if those accounts are participating in a same campaign and have a rule of multiple accounts usage! I'd say connection and merit sharing doesn't deserve any negative feedback. Discussing about account connection without any rule the @OP broke is really pointless, what we need to do next? leaving neutral feedback is still fine and doesn't ruin his reputation.

I'm not defending @OP here, I will be more appreciated if someone can prove me wrong and the @OP is actually a cheater.

It would not be the first time that brothers, sisters and friends are accused of alt accounts, and after reading and looking at the posts from the thread linked in the OP, it seems to me that the truth could be different. Some pictures say maybe more than a thousand words, and no matter how much the OP tries to relativize things, it seems that he is behind all those alt accounts.

I especially find it very rude of some members that various forum contests are used to earn large amounts of merit for their alt accounts - I think the scale for such contests will have to be raised to a much higher level.

Thank you. I understand that now. I have told everyone here what I did and why I did. Hopefully they can understand that and give me a second chance.
If anyone still doubts me then I think they should have a look at what I have said and if there's any way they can match the evidence provided here they will understand that I am saying the truth.
I won't say anything after this. This will be my last reply.

Edit.
I have a business and i am also a student. I only get 3-4 hours daily to spend on the forum. I am not creating any colony.
Merit exchange was my fault and i only have access to 1 account which is Tanvi50_
other accounts belong to different people.

you have nothing to prove. it was all wrong because there was an exchange of Merit. you have access to that account, and you can also intentionally send Merit to several other accounts.
if you are right in what you say, maybe you are building a colony. or if all your accounts manage it, you are a multitasking person.

It seems that in the forum there are already pictures that match your actions
you and the colony


you and multitasking

You don't need to hand anything over to anyone to prove the account isn't yours, let alone something you want to prove could jeopardize privacy. We've read all your posts at the beginning of the topic, the classic reasoning is still used here. Regardless of who the original owner of the account is, you shouldn't repeat the same mistake a second time.
Stop exchanging Merit between the accounts, let what happened be a lesson for you. There is no need to rush to rank up by exchanging Merit with an Alt account, you can do it slowly by utilizing the merit assistance services that are already available on the forum.
Remember, there is no second chance for the same mistake.

I said already, sir. I helped them to learn how to work on bounty campaign, and I created those accounts for them. I am ready to provide proof if you want. But i don't know how to do it and what will be accepted. if there's any way i can prove it please let me know.. i am having a mental breakdown over here.

Your sister's account is Tanvi50_?  So whose account is halim50_?  You've sent merits to and received merits from that one as well, and I find it extremely hard to believe that a username format like that one would be used by two different accounts and show up on your merit history.

I think you're a cheater at the very least and probably a blatant liar as well.  The whole "blah blah blah a relative" thing has been used so many times by barnacle-sucking scumbags that it raises a red flag in my mind immediately. 

Yeah, that is also my friend's account. Believe it or not. In the beginning, he used to copy my POA and edit it to provide his own info. Maybe he left it like that over there.
you can check that on the campaign spreadsheet

He hasn't been online for a long time. He's busy with his study. I am explaining this again because it is the truth.
that is not my account. And that internal transaction as I mentioned was for fee.
And why we need to do it, let me explain. We are from Bangladesh and only way to acquire any crypto is via person 2 person transaction. And buying from any exchanges was costly. There was a limit on how little you can withdraw. So for that tiny amount, we need to send it to each other. i think that will clear your doubt.

Actually the Alt connection that was found by: @lovesmayfamilis is correct, I have no doubt about that, all of that can be proven via your other Alt with the BEP-20 address path you are using.

Proof is here:

1. Anon joardar

@Anon joardar Connect with @tjtonmoy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57890078
https://archive.vn/wip/gfyr0

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Let's review another address used by: @Anon joardar.

https://archive.vn/wip/sW9Mi

From the visible BNB transactions, both are indeed connected, addresses [1] & [2].

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xdab8f34af0bdef0ff5f8d0eee088b2b481845cf6f99553271115d0f2985c0470


Transaction in this: https://bscscan.com/address/0x8e456599db2429cff0ac8f9d5b5aa29e7c921642, also connected to the @halim50_ account, so some of the evidence above, shows the Alt published by: @lovesmayfamilis, indeed it is your Alt.

You didn't hear me. Do not prove anything to anyone on the Internet, and do not show your identity. No way!

I am ready to submit anything you want as a proof. but I won't share it publicly for sure! if someone tag me then i will provide them with enough evidence!
and thanks for understanding! and one thing i want to mention again! yes i did not know how merit works back then! after learning it i stopped doing so! if you exclude those 28/30 merits, i did earned some on my own!
so that's that! thanks again for the advice..

You have no idea what merits are or why they exist, but you do not hesitate to distribute them solely to your accounts. Oh, well... You're not the first or the last to want to move up in rank. 
Just so you know, all your IP addresses, documents, and everything else you wanted to show would not really be valid evidence.
IP addresses can be changed, documents can be someone else's, and even your online statements could still be fake. But there's something else you should know: being on this forum doesn't require you to show anything to anyone in order to reveal your identity. Just remember it, and don't do it for anyone.
It is shocking that you have been on the forum for two years and do not know for what reasons you can be banned or marked with a negative tag. Maybe now is the time to find out.
As LoyceV always preaches, getting a negative tag for transferring merit to your alternative accounts is wrong. But it’s not a fact that someone won’t give you a red mark. So just don't do it again.

I had to laugh at the coincidence of how naim027 lied to us all, that he did not know the rules, and what this lie resulted in. I really want you not to repeat his steps.

Who cares the top members with most merits here abused the system anyways.
They created their own ring giving themself merits for total nonsense or for any supporters of their abuse.
You are not worse than them so why do you care.
Show them the middlefinger.
Ask them first to delete their merit before they attack yours.

I suggest you end this drama. you told your side of the story, how believable it is is not important (honestly, the brother's/sister's account is the most common excuse). at the moment you have no negative tags on your account, and try to keep it that way. now especially when you are more familiar with the "rules" of the forum, the rules of participating in bounty campaigns you should not repeat similar mistakes.
So, move on and be smart in the upcoming period of your participation in this place.

If you do not violate forum rules, you won't get banned.
I can't speak for others. But, If any DT members think you have abused the forum system and you should be punished, They may red-paint your feedback page. But I would say you shouldn't do that. But, Whatever is done is done. Now It's Up to forum members whether they trust you. I hope for the best. Everyone deserves a second chance.

You can see the social media accounts they work on and that telegram group where I share those bounty links. And they are not from the same place. They work from their own place. If anyone wants, I can ask them to share their logged in IP that shows where they are from. And from which IP the account has been logged in from.
thanks for the information. I hope I don't get negative trust. I haven't done anything wrong other than that, so I hope DT will understand that and give me a second chance.


Thanks. Hopefully DT members can understand my situation.

First of all abusing with the merits won't get you a ban and moderators have nothing to do with the merit abuse and DT community decides whether you can be trusted after doing such a thing with their ratings.

Technically you circulated the merits between yourself either its from your own account or your sister's as per your story but you did on yourself which is not really encouraged again this won't get you a ban but you're at the risk of getting negged.

And for the next part, you can merit any post you want as long as you're doing it from your own sMerits, like if you simply like a post or even a post with one word received tons so it all depends on the adding meaning to the discussion in some part.

Giving merits is a "gray area"; you can give merits based on how you feel. There is some sort of etiquette, you should merit only posts that are good, but you will find also seasoned members sometimes meriting a meme or a nicely done entry in a Christmas contest.
However, exchanging merits can also be seen as shady and some may even tag you for it. It's softer than banning, but your account will no longer look good.
Plus, this "the other account belongs to sister/brother/best friend/colleague from same office" and so on are stories we've heard far too much and many won't believe it/buy it.

So, the current actions pose a risk. Some may give you a second chance, some may not. No matter you get tagged or not, you will have to learn something from this and stop doing shenanigans, since they can only drag you down.

There's been a recent topic in which @leonair has mentioned me Re: Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt
He has accused me of abusing merits and having multiple accounts. And first I was scared because I thought I might get banned from this forum. That alternate account belongs to my sister. It's Tanvi50_. So technically it's not mine, but I do have access to it. I have taken some of the merits in the past from that account, and I will say this again. I didn't know back then that how merits works. And other submission were getting a lot of merits, so I thought I can get some from my sister's account. So I did. The amount is 28, but I did also give merits to other people too. You can check my merit history. Someone I know personally, I shared it with him, and he said it was against the rules of Forum. So after that I stopped doing it and only gave out merits to who deserved it.
And one last thing that @lovesmayfamilis has mentioned in here Re: Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt
You can see those ID's detail and social links linked to their bounty reports. This belongs to a friend and someone who I have taught how to work for bounty.  They needed some fee to swap their tokens, so I gave them this little amount to cover up their fees. I have never used alternate accounts to cheat on anything. You may see them in many bounties that I have worked for. It's because there's a telegram channel where I post all the bounty links I found. Here's the link if you are interested.
https://t.me/bounty_update1
So I just want to apologize to all forum members that I have lied about something. I was afraid that my account will get banned, and I won't be able to access this forum again. It took me almost 2 years to get to this point and that scared me. But I will stand my ground by saying this. Without the merit exchange, I have never done anything wrong here. I have never harmed anyone or done bad things to any person. It was a mistake in the past for which I am asking for apology. Those multiple accounts have nothing to do with me. All I did was just help them.

I promise to all the mods that this won't happen in the future. Please don't ban me. I am really sorry. Again!
leoniar & lovesmayfamilis
you guys have done a great job. I know I shouldn't have lied in the first place. I am personally asking forgiveness to you guys.