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FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.

Well ... not quite... (2021)

Credit goes to marlboroza for originally linking jamalaezaz and aTriz.

That post: (2018)

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My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

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And my post: (2016)

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

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I hadn't known it at the time (as my post was done on the 2016-03-14, 12:21:56, but extrabyte was banned in 2019...

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5/24/2019 2:19:03 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user
5/20/2019 6:20:47 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user

Therefore jamalaezaz etc has been engaged in ban evasion for nearly four years.

Extrabyte was not in my possession when it was banned, so I am not engaging in ban evasion, it wasn't even in my possession when you linked it to me.

 

I earlier requested this thread be locked as it served no purpose as several members will not be removing their negative tags but as it remains unlocked I would like to ask the OP about the accounts he has farmed.

jamalaezaz, can you please clarify in your own words:

- exactly how many accounts you operated in the past
- exactly how many accounts you operate now
- list the names of all accounts used (past and present)

Thank you

1: I don't remember, but a lot.
2: it seems the community has already made its mind so whatever I say they'll call it a lie. but it is true that I got rid of all my alts. last time I used another account was 2019. when atriz defaulted a 5 eth loan against his account..
3: you can see the names above in Timelord's post.


I am locking the thread as you said it has no purpose.. I understand that people are not ready to believe me yet. but I'll try to be a good forum user and do my level best to get community trust back.
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Guys do you know how I can get in contact with Marlboro, I need to plead non-guilty to see if there is a chance, I mean come on guys, just look at my avatar, that's the last of the little cute troll bloodline, we are practically going to extinct.
My great great grandfather looked the same only without the laptop. If I can find Marlboro the rest of the gang who banged me are still here, I could work my way with them somehow.🙃


I'm guessing that TimeLord will double down on my trust page by renewing his past rates over again after reading this post.
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I earlier requested this thread be locked as it served no purpose as several members will not be removing their negative tags but as it remains unlocked I would like to ask the OP about the accounts he has farmed.

jamalaezaz, can you please clarify in your own words:

- exactly how many accounts you operated in the past
- exactly how many accounts you operate now
- list the names of all accounts used (past and present)

Thank you
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FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.

Well ... not quite... (2021)

Credit goes to marlboroza for originally linking jamalaezaz and aTriz.

That post: (2018)

...

My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

...

And my post: (2016)

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

...




I hadn't known it at the time (as my post was done on the 2016-03-14, 12:21:56, but extrabyte was banned in 2019...

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5/24/2019 2:19:03 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user
5/20/2019 6:20:47 AM    Changed to Archived status    Autoban user

Therefore jamalaezaz etc has been engaged in ban evasion for nearly four years.
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On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

Before advocating for a second chance for him, take a fresh look at his past activities. Because he used every opportunity to scam from this forum. Even if you give a second, third, fourth, unlimited chance to a member with such a dishonest character like him, he will use it and try to scam again. So there is no chance of fulfilling your expectations, the community doesn't seem to give him another chance.

The dear fellow I am not familiar with his past activities as at that time maybe I was not the forum but for the second chance option, i am talking about the general situations not particularly favoring him to give him a chance. My comment was for everyone who is guilty on his past activities and humbly accepting them to move forward and build up a new reputation again.

For Royse and Julerz as some of the members mentioned above yes dude, I know their case is different from the OP case as their cases are not as critical as the OP case is I would like to educate myself from the feedback.
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On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

Before advocating for a second chance for him, take a fresh look at his past activities. Because he used every opportunity to scam from this forum. Even if you give a second, third, fourth, unlimited chance to a member with such a dishonest character like him, he will use it and try to scam again. So there is no chance of fulfilling your expectations, the community doesn't seem to give him another chance.
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A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?
Funny, you were not even registered in the forum when everything was happening but you are good to make a call.

Apologies, I must have missed the rule that only OGs are allowed to share their thoughts here. Smiley

FYI, Nutildah's post "the aTriz/jamalaezaz farm" was from August 09, 2021. I was around at that time.
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jamalaezaz, may be you need to become active in the community again. A great way to rebuild lost reputation is to communicate and spread hands to help others. If you are logging in once or twice a month and expecting things to change, I don't think it will work. Many are saying many things. Some are saying to give you another chance and some closed their doors. I am with the first group. You started to mess up from 2018 and it's long years have past. To be honest, it's hard to understand someone who you don't meet regularly and have discussion regularly.

And be honest.

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?
Funny, you were not even registered in the forum when everything was happening but you are good to make a call.
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A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?
And why not give Bernie Madoff a second chance (assuming he was still alive)?  Why not Ted fucking Bundy for that matter?

Yeah, whether a person should get some leniency granted depends on the magnitude of their fuckup or how much leniency or how many 2nd/3rd/etc. chances they've already gotten and blown.  In Jamaljizz's case here, he wanted me to remove my negative on him from a long time ago, so I know damn well he's got something going for which he wants to look squeaky clean.  Well, he's nothing of the sort, and the community ought to be warned of that.
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Those that wanted to revise the trust/feedback have done it. Those that question the sincerity of the OP have decided to not revise the trust/feedback therefore this thread serves no purpose now. I would advise the OP to lock the thread.
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Dear Incidents happen always, as you know the latest one was the wallet hack of julerz12 also I do consider that trust matters a lot but you know Julerz is still working, Royse still working and there are many bounty managers working here. I think it is most common with bounty managers to happen in various ways.

Comparing the cases of Julerz12 or Royse777 to this one just isn't right. JamalAezaz is a proven cheater with tons of alt accounts. And on top of that, he managed some seriously questionable bounties. Check out his trust page if you need more proof.

Reputation in the community is a pre-requirement for good projects.

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.

A second chance? Sure thing! Why stop at two when you can have a third, fourth, and maybe even a fifth chance?
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I'm also not one of those people you've directly or indirectly harmed, but there are plenty of other people in this community feeling the impact of your troubles. I think they can forgive you to some extent, but they should still remember you as a bad person when it comes to campaign management. I guess you will no longer be as clean as before regardless of how many DT's will remove the tag or turn it neutral.

Dear Incidents happen always, as you know the latest one was the wallet hack of julerz12 also I do consider that trust matters a lot but you know Julerz is still working, Royse still working and there are many bounty managers working here. I think it is most common with bounty managers to happen in various ways.

Reputation in the community is a pre-requirement for good projects.

On the second chance demand i think yes its the right of everyone and i belive bro you are going to get a second chance but it can take to come up again with a better face.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

I also believe in second chances and I think that in most cases the majority deserve to get such a chance. But this is not about a second chance, but about a third or as some say a fourth chance for the same member who obviously for some reason cannot resist turning to the dark side.

In addition, there is fairly solid evidence that at least one of his alt accounts has been permanently banned, which means that all other alt accounts, including the one for which he is apologizing, should suffer the same fate.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

It's not all about the mistake he did alone, but we need to consider the law that guide going through such mistakes, alot of people gave been into such and have been banned or left a number of tags, what we will dig more into is the kind of mistake OP has committed if it's the type that permit for a second chance or not, but we need to be careful when passing this judgement do that everyone will not later get into doing such mess and expect to appeal on reputation for a second chance as well, tags shouldn't bother him if he really never did what deserves such.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .
I do not fully agree. He started off with 1 account, then moved on to something like 10, which is fine but 1 being atriz which he may or may not have pulled off some shady dealings with. Now, he suddenly doesn't control any of the accounts. I just don't buy that.

If he was actually repenting, I would say yes, but I don't feel like he is.
He took his chances for the account but failed. I don't think it matters much for him anymore. By now he already have few good rank ALT accounts, no one will ever know about it. A person with many mistake will continue it, not ignoring the question about alt account is a good proof.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .

Not everyone deserve second chance especially if he made huge mistake which cost financial damage to many people.

He commit many mistakes so he deserves those feedbacks left on his account.

Huge chances that the same incident will happen again if there's big amount of money involve so to avoid the same thing to happen much better to remain all of the feedback in place and set this as a reminder to other that there's no going back if you commit huge mistake to other forum members.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .
I do not fully agree. He started off with 1 account, then moved on to something like 10, which is fine but 1 being atriz which he may or may not have pulled off some shady dealings with. Now, he suddenly doesn't control any of the accounts. I just don't buy that.

If he was actually repenting, I would say yes, but I don't feel like he is.
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I always believe in second chances that everyone should be given once in their life to prove themselves as we progress being humans we make mistakes once in a while. Jamal made some mistake and he is now repenting which I think is most important. I knew him from last few year and on some occesson we exchanged money and it all went smoothly. He has a good hear. Thats why I beliebve he should be given another chance here to prove himself .
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.
I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.
From the looks, it seems @jamal was only concerned with his own interests for which he cheated on his own project which he managed leaving participants to their own fate. Reading from his past,  I already know who he is. It is disappointing that he stoop so low of a bounty manager to have done such which is not expected of him. It is unethical and unprofessional to have gotten himself involved in such situations cheating bounty hunters and lastly, from what I saw in the token pay thread, it does really reflect of him as  a good manager and that is very very bad of him.
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I do not remember seeing that thread before but he made one post in that thread you linked:  Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment... His answer is not exactly useful when looking at the context of the actual thread and also the Tokenpay ANN but I suppose he wrote a lot in the edited OP of the ANN thread where he says a lot about the non-payment so probably did not want to repeat.

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.
I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.

I don't know the full extent of his past activities, but from what I do know, there are many reasons why his reputation is at such a bad level. I opened a thread about the Tokenpay Bounty he managed, but there was no proper reply from him. Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

Jamalaezaz added many screenshots in Tokenpay's ANN thread, in which it is clear that he was involved in an argument with the Tokenpay team for the sake of getting referral commission. As a result the bounty hunters did not get paid. Because he was more concerned about the referral commission than the bounty payment.

Whose activities were like this, and did all kinds of cheating for the sake of money. Even if you give him a second, third, or unlimited chance, he will find new ways to cheat again.
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I can only say Dare to do, must dare to be responsible.
Past mistakes have disappointed Hunters, they get nothing when your bounty is over. I'm not sure Hunters who have failed to get paid can take advantage of your mistakes, DT Members have personal views on the negative feedback they leave on your profile.
The word sorry from Hunter will not change anything on your profile, only DT members have the power to change everything. Then how about this https://archive.is/IoQib
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Really?

Yup - The connection was made a long time ago and has been run up the Flag pole by a handful of others over time too.




And as always this Timelord dude, he is practically every where doing a lot of work with no recognition from those above in the chain of command.🥱

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm much obliged as they say.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzWv_M94a8
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I know the one and only forum Chymist is a bit harsh acting like a tough guy, but he has a big heart, in time he'll come around seeing changes not just words.
Yes, the cardiomegaly was noted on my last chest x-ray.  But if you're implying that a soft, cuddly teddy bear lies just beneath my gnarled and hardened exterior....well, you're probably right.  In this particular case however, I see very little hope for jamalaezaz getting his red trust removed (from me; I can't speak for everyone else who negged him all to hell). 

I don't like to use the word never, since my mind can change if situations change, if behavior improves, etc.  Honestly though, does jamalaezaz really think he's got a shot at scrubbing his trust page clean?  As you pointed out, Lutpin and marlboroza seem to have left the forum, and I think there's an infinitesimal chance of their negatives being removed.
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Alot of issues associated to OP is much than expected, so i wouldn't see any assurance from not having any reoccurrence in the future since this kind has landed him to the third time, the funny thing is that there are many other users in this manner thinking that they can get away with that, it's just a little more time for their bubbles to get bursted, they can't hide for long, the question you should asked yourself at first is that why do you have to start an unfinished business that will later turn a regret, try to check and work on yourself better than you thought you had done.
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Good luck finding Lutpin and Marlboro ( brand of a cigar, high quality stuff ). I know the one and only forum Chymist is a bit harsh acting like a tough guy, but he has a big heart, in time he'll come around seeing changes not just words.

And as always this Timelord dude, he is practically every where doing a lot of work with no recognition from those above in the chain of command.🥱
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aTriz [BPIP] [FLAG - archive [1] [2]] and jamalaezaz [BPIP] [FLAGS - archive [1] [2]] were controlled by the same account as recently as 11/9/2019 according to BPIPSec Log info and 1/13/2023 according to the FLAGS page.
Really?  I've had a few PM conversations with aTriz, and I could swear his English was at least 5 times better than jamalaezaz's.  I suppose the aTriz account could have changed hands, but that connection seems strange to me.

In any case, there seem to be a lot of people supporting OP based on his promises.  That's all fine and dandy, but apologies are useless and promises to not repeat shady behavior are just words until actions prove whether said promises were kept.  And from the point of view of a DT member who left a feedback that was meant to warn the community about some serious dishonesty, there's no way I'm going to remove a negative based on apologies and promises.  I've seen too many of them, and I'm too jaded to reverse a feedback in a case like this.
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Since you care so much about improving your reputation, I think you should start by giving back all the money that bounty hunters lost because of you in campaigns you managed.
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.
I don't think problem about Bounties campaign have been scam later but many project under @jamalaezaz have been success but never got payment yet although listing on market with higher price. There are not problem with little mistake about bounties campaign running have been scam later due pre sale not running well, but several his under controlling bounties was success and he don't give clearly about team project was sent payment or not.

Every one have mistake and I don't know what level kinds need forgiveness, now lets see how many DT give second chance for @jamalaezaz by removing their negative feedback.
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You have cheated using every means that can be used. Many of the projects you manage are scammed, and bounty hunters don't get paid what they deserve. You are responsible for this failure, because you should have done minimum researches before launching the bounty of any project, but you did not do it.

You broke the forum rules by farming accounts, and used those accounts to cheat on your own managed campaigns. This is not a small matter, you committed many crimes. Even if the community forgives you for this, I think you will try to repeat the previous activities again. You have done such activities in the past, I don't think the community will want to pollute this forum by giving you another chance.
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Well, Your case is getting worst than ever again. People started digging into it more and more, and it's getting worse. I don't see any reason to remove your feedback which already left feedback. People would consider to revise the tag if they see anything positive from your side and see others giving you chance. But nope, you have done too many mistakes and people finding more issues. BTW, Best of luck.
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I have read through and I found out that there are lots of stories surrounding you @jamal. It is unfortunate that you got yourself involved in account farming and cheating in your your own managed projects subjecting other's to working extra hours while awarding rewards to yourself which is very bad. It is easy to forgive but do you think it is easy to forget? Those people you put under financial hardships and pressure do you think some of them might be alive now?  It is disappointing that you did committed such a heinous crime to members of this platform.  Well I can not talk on behalf of others because I am not in their shoes they would better decide themselves on wether to forgive you and remove the tag or not but for the now, I rest my case.
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Thanks for being honest and straightforward, your points are valid, I understand that it is hard to believe someone who made several mistaks. but I don't have any intention of repeating those mistakes again.

I didn't say they were accidents. instead, I said they were not direct scams or theft attempts. also, I did not say that I am innocent.  I was indeed wrong and doing a mistake working with scammy projects without proper due diligence not once but multiple times, which caused harm to bounty hunters. but now I learned my lesson.


You've lied yet again. Why are the facts about your accounts' sales and merit being overlooked? These moments alone brought a lot of negative tags to some other accounts. Your farm still appears in the bounty. It looks like the hydra's heads appear here and there again and again.
In your case, it can be said that you have polluted the forum very much with your farm, and a person like you will not change.
But I'm wondering why you want to recover this account. Are all the big ranks sold?
Timelord2067, the flag is supported. You correctly noted that this scammer does not see the obvious; his existence on the forum is simply impossible.
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about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

Even if you claim to have "got rid" of those accounts, you are still breaking the rules of this forum by evading bans, since at least one of your previous accounts has been banned. And you have been doing it for years.

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously
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aTriz [BPIP] [FLAG - archive [1] [2]] and jamalaezaz [BPIP] [FLAGS - archive [1] [2]] were controlled by the same account as recently as 11/9/2019 according to BPIPSec Log info and 1/13/2023 according to the FLAGS page.

I you look at the BPIP flag pages - Flag 2812 atriz opposed the lag against themself on that date while having not posted since 2021-07-25, 00:11:39

Uncanny how these two UID's flags were last updated within one hour of each other on BPIP as though someone had been looking at both?




The previous Flag against jamalaezaz I opposed as the creator of the Flag was not the creator of the thread and jamalaezaz was not the subject of that thread (my opposition was on the grounds the Flag was incorrectly created)  -  This thread is solely concerning jamalaezaz and after careful consideration, I have created a new Flag and asks others to support it, please.
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but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.
As long as I'm not a mind reader of scammer assholes, I've never even convinced anyone that a seemingly docile dog would never bite.
Unless you mean, you'll quit your profession as a promoter. Obviously that's a better guarantee to hear.
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about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

Even if you claim to have "got rid" of those accounts, you are still breaking the rules of this forum by evading bans, since at least one of your previous accounts has been banned. And you have been doing it for years.

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously
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I'm just going to put this here before it gets quoted and the quotes under it are the ones I refer to in my negative trust feedback:

Just found a huge farm that involves a member that has been here for several years.

List of connected alts discussed in this thread (there are dozens others):

jamalaezaz
aTriz

Aaaqibsardar (banned)
Kohatiiboy (banned)

Travel Standard
Btcschool
businessgirl
Super Raju
Starbase

Hobo66

joinfamily
Handpari
Anamika1000
Pandy mast
Aadii8430
fortune1002

Digital_Lord
killerman2

It all starts here:


Sneaky said atriz repaid them 0.3ETH and atriz confirmed it (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42771511 archived here http://archive.is/rcEMg):

*snip*

My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Now, taking deeper look at transactions:

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte

Proof: I have linked jamalaezaz and Btcschool previously

@LFC_Bitcoin - please review the above and reconsider your removed distrust in this person.




The previous Flag against jamalaezaz I opposed as the creator of the Flag was not the creator of the thread and jamalaezaz was not the subject of that thread (my opposition was on the grounds the Flag was incorrectly created)  -  This thread is solely concerning jamalaezaz and after careful consideration, I have created a new Flag and asks others to support it, please.
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I am one of those who supported the flag against you because it was unresolved and you never drop a line there not to defend yourself but tried to correct the things that were done to the accusers, like all the others here I don't think the feedbacks should be taken down, without you doing something to correct them not just asking for another chance.
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I wish I could pay everyone who spends time working for bounty programs I managed. but I don't have enough funds for that.. but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.
I'm just really unsure about your promise, while on your trust list page it states that:

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Lauda alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with jamalaezaz is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so.

I don't know how you can convince people not to risk losing money working with you again, when your reputation has been so messed up so far. I'm not for the flag or in the opposition, that's because I didn't know much about your case in past. It's just that after this you can do good things, you can still use this account but not necessarily clean your reputation. Good luck with your endeavors, jamalaezaz.
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I can see so many comments here. I'll try to answer as much as I can.



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   This user asked kindly for a third chance so in the spirit of forgiveness I have revised this trust rating from negative to neutral.

Are you serious? The trust left by nutildah says that the OP got a third chance. Read again—not the second, but the third. In this case, it can be said that a person who repents should not repeat his mistakes in the future. In the case of the OP, the third time does not mean he blames himself somewhere. He will get a third chance and soon break it, as he will repent of the fourth.
Read his post; according to him, he did nothing to anyone intentionally. He did everything by accident.

Thanks for being honest and straightforward, your points are valid, I understand that it is hard to believe someone who made several mistaks. but I don't have any intention of repeating those mistakes again.

I didn't say they were accidents. instead, I said they were not direct scams or theft attempts. also, I did not say that I am innocent.  I was indeed wrong and doing a mistake working with scammy projects without proper due diligence not once but multiple times, which caused harm to bounty hunters. but now I learned my lesson.

Paying those mismanagement using your own funds is what makes your negative trust remove easily rather than creating an open letter asking for forgiveness to mistakes that you commit multiple times way back to the time when you are active in campaign management.

I knew a lot of user here with negative feedback and still continue with their work to improve their mistake. You should follow that way instead of making request like this. Royse777 is the best example here.

I wish I could pay everyone who spends time working for bounty programs I managed. but I don't have enough funds for that.. but I'll make sure no one loose money because of me in future.


Actually, It’s based on the feedback left by nutildah on his trust page. In that feedback, he was given a third pass in the spirit of forgiveness so I guess the heading of the OP is misleading as he should be asking for a fourth chance.
had no intention of misleading anyone. you need to understand the context. I counted all my past mistakes together and asked for a 2nd chance..
Anyway, I am changing the title with different words to avoid misleading.

We don't know how you changed or not. Who knows? Maybe you want another chance, and you will repeat the same thing again and again because everyone is saying it's your fourth time. I wasn't there, so I don't know the case entirely. Just saw the other thread and accusations. Marlboroza left the forum, and Lutpin is not active these days. He was active a week ago. You can DM Lutpin to check this thread and make any changes if he wants.
I don't have any intention to repeat it again and again. thanks for showing concern tho. I understand it is not easy to trust someone.

I take full responsibility for the mistakes I have made in the past

but I have made poor choices and worked with scam projects as a bounty manager. However, I did not run away, but stayed here and continued using the forum.
When you're making an apology and say you're taking full responsibility for "mistakes", it's never a good idea to put a "but" in it, which is exactly what you've done.  I don't believe you're either apologizing or trying to make amends to the community, nor do I believe your promises that you won't keep on doing what you've been doing.

I'm going to be completely honest here: I suggested you open up a thread here so that everyone could blast you to smithereens, and I didn't really think you'd open yourself up to so much scrutiny and criticism given how much negative feedback you have.  The red trust I gave you was from March of 2018, and since then you've only continued to get more negatives from other members.  I've got a feeling you're asking me for feedback removal almost 3 years after it was given because you're planning on getting involved in some big project in which it's likely people are going to get screwed.

I believe in second chances, believe me, but you've used up any goodwill points you might have had with people who've seen you fuck things up for years.  My feedback will stand.
Mate. I respect your decision of keeping your feedback. you have full rights to not remove that and I have no hard feelings about that. that "but" was in another context sorry if that made you think I am pretending to apologize but also trying to say that I am innocent.
that's not true. I know I am wrong. I did mistakes and admit those.
I understand that it is not easy to trust someone who made multiple mistakes

about last part of your comment.
I absolutely have no intention of screwing anyone again. and there is no big projects I am getting involved with anytime soon. if I get a project again specially if it is a bounty program to manage. I'll make sure their tokens are escrowed with a trusted escrow first.

thanks for the time to write your opinion.


I used to chat quite a bit on telegram with Jamal and let him do some translations on a bounty or 2. We had some good conversations.  I thought at the time he was a good guy going through some hardships and I have a soft spot in my heart for people dealing with situations.

With all that being said, he does have a load of accounts and I think if he truly seeks forgiveness he should start by admitting the account names he controls and let people check and see how much shady activity he might have partook in.

I think on order to have a clean start 1 should be honest about their whole past.
thanks, yahoo for remembering that time and giving me those opportunities to work with you. I'll always appreciat that.. but I must refresh your mind that, that was skype not telegram.

about the accounts. I don't have any of those anymore. i got rid of them long ago.

I found this thread and also received your PM. As my name was mentioned here I will make a comment.

I have to say that after taking all things available to me at the moment (information, feedback, comments) in to consideration, I have decided that I will not remove nor revise the negative feedback that I left.

That does not mean it cannot be revised in the future but it will probably only happen if there are absolutely exceptional circumstances, therefore highly unlikely.

thanks for taking the time and for the write-up mate. I totally respect your decision.. and would really appreciate if you change your mind. no pressure and hard feelings.



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Why now why when after what happened to the bounty, the majority of reputable members are not ready to forgive him, because those who got scammed lose their hard-earned money and bounty hunters lose their time and expectations, if the reputable member will forgive him, then it's better that he compensate people or try a way to make amends to those who suffered from what he has done.
Jollygood and all the others are just right that they decline to take down their feedback, he should do something that will make their mind not just ask for forgiveness and take the bad feedbacks.
His reputation won't be as good as before, but the positive point is that he might be doing good things from now on or who knows he's planning bigger things than before. I only support his apology as human being who basically never escape from sin, but he can't expect his reputation to return to what it was before.

When it comes to financial loss, it is something that is very sensitive. Everyone wants nothing to lose, whoever it is and we have seen many people demanding compensation or jailing the perpetrators by reporting them to the police. Maybe things like this wouldn't happen to OP, but he should be held accountable for his past mistakes.
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I think most people deserve a second chance and I know many have gotten it on this forum, but in this particular case I agree with @lovesmayfamilis and I wonder how many chances the OP deserves if this is the third or fourth? I'm not one of those who was harmed in any way by the OP's actions, and I'm not one of those who supported the flag or left negative feedback, but all those who have a part in it should think carefully about whether it's time to change their opinion.

There is a saying that says "the wolf changes its hair, but its temper never changes".

Basically, it is not about the 1st or 2nd chance , he has scammed people money, not paid them their bounty work and now asking for forgiveness without compensating them does not make sense.

Yeah, i agree that it is not possible to pay every participant with his own pocket but i remember there were some projects where he was paid good by the project team for his efforts of bounty management, but the bounty scam the participants. Why now start by distributing that amount to the bounty participants as a token of grantee that he is really concerned about the bounty participants and this apology is not only to start his bounty management work again.



Why now why when after what happened to the bounty, the majority of reputable members are not ready to forgive him, because those who got scammed lose their hard-earned money and bounty hunters lose their time and expectations, if the reputable member will forgive him, then it's better that he compensate people or try a way to make amends to those who suffered from what he has done.
Jollygood and all the others are just right that they decline to take down their feedback, he should do something that will make their mind not just ask for forgiveness and take the bad feedbacks.
 
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Previously I have participated in the bounty campaigns that you handled several times, although some ended well, some were disappointing, good luck with your request.
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I found this thread and also received your PM. As my name was mentioned here I will make a comment.

I have to say that after taking all things available to me at the moment (information, feedback, comments) in to consideration, I have decided that I will not remove nor revise the negative feedback that I left.

That does not mean it cannot be revised in future but it will probably only happen if there are absolutely exceptional circumstances, therefore highly unlikely.

In conclusion, I humbly request for the forgiveness of the Bitcoin community and for a chance to be a normal forum user once again. I ask for your support in opposing the flag on my profile
and for Lutpin, Mitchell, The Sceptical Chymist, marlboroza, and JollyGood to reconsider their feedback.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Jamal
legendary
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I think most people deserve a second chance and I know many have gotten it on this forum, but in this particular case I agree with @lovesmayfamilis and I wonder how many chances the OP deserves if this is the third or fourth? I'm not one of those who was harmed in any way by the OP's actions, and I'm not one of those who supported the flag or left negative feedback, but all those who have a part in it should think carefully about whether it's time to change their opinion.

There is a saying that says "the wolf changes its hair, but its temper never changes".

Basically, it is not about the 1st or 2nd chance , he has scammed people money, not paid them their bounty work and now asking for forgiveness without compensating them does not make sense.

Yeah, i agree that it is not possible to pay every participant with his own pocket but i remember there were some projects where he was paid good by the project team for his efforts of bounty management, but the bounty scam the participants. Why now start by distributing that amount to the bounty participants as a token of grantee that he is really concerned about the bounty participants and this apology is not only to start his bounty management work again.

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Your courage of accepting the deeds you did in the past makes you look innocent and trustworthy again. However, I was contacted by a person named Jar on telegram (@Jar_ON89) and he asked me whether I'm interested in buying Bitcointalk accounts or sMerits! I hope it's not you this time mate. This guy is mutually in a group named BountyPortals Buy/Sell group on telegram, which is run by @irfan_pak10

In many instances that happened here, I have seen that the person didn't get a second chance even if they used to be a trustworthy member of this community for a very long time. So, one important question that comes to my mind is, what makes you so special to be exempted from these tags and get a third/fourth/whatever number of chance while those didn't get a second one? Won't that be an injustice to them?
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For many, it takes a great deal of courage and deep regret to come out in the open and accept that they did wrong and ask for forgiveness.
But for another set, accepting wrong and asking for forgiveness is something that's so simple for them to do, for this type of people, there is a high chance that after being forgiven, they might go on to commit a higher crime and probably in the end, abandon their account which is already filled with negative tags.

I support what yahoo said, it is one thing to do wrong, it is another to be forgiven, but to be forgiven does not stop one from facing their punishment, this is how it is done in the court of law, pleading guilty and asking for forgiveness does not stop one from going to jail or spending some good amount of money(depending how serious the crime is).

Here, you have cost a lot of bounty hunters loses, not just to their money but also their time, and the efforts they put into completing their weekly task, how can this ones be compensated now?

Do what yahoo62278 asked you to do, this would atleast prove how seriously you regret your actions and how committed you are to never committing the same crime again.

I personally think those who have removed their negative tag were to quick to do that..
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You are a account farmer.

You manipulate all the bounty for your personal gain you cheat those funds you handle.

And you manage poorly and only save your ass thru all those controversy happened to you in the past.

So for another time around I don't think you deserve a second chance since you cause financial troubles to many people way back then.

I guess the feedback need not to be taken out since mistakes done from the past is serious matter.
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I used to chat quite a bit on telegram with Jamal and let him do some translations on a bounty or 2. We had some good conversations.  I thought at the time he was a good guy going through some hardships and I have a soft spot in my heart for people dealing with situations.

With all that being said, he does have a load of accounts and I think if he truly seeks forgiveness he should start by admitting the account names he controls and let people check and see how much shady activity he might have partook in.

I think on order to have a clean start 1 should be honest about their whole past.
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Dear community,
From the bottom of my heart, I want to express my deepest gratitude to LFC_Bitcoin and nutildah for their kindness and understanding in removing and revising their negative feedback on my profile. Their act of compassion will always hold a special place in my heart.

If we can have some other people like you who will boldly take away the shame and have the courage to declare themselves with true honesty, things could have go more better becau even we sometimes finds ourselves in some mess we could never imagined being into and when such is realized, there's always a room for a second chance, you're just lucky in your own case not to have been banned with your kind of offence that brought you this kind of feedbacks.

I have reached out to everyone else who left negative feedback and humbly requested that they reconsider their feedback. The Sceptical Chymist suggested that I open a thread and let the community decide, so here I am, standing before you with the hope of forgiveness.

I believe by now you must have well understood the reasons why people left you the feedbacks they give a d i hope you never returned back to your vomit in later future, people left feedbacks not because they hated you but they don't want this forum turned into an abused platform which could bring down low it's reputation to the public, a d therefore they place you the tags informing those coming in contact with you to get warned and be careful.
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I would say that here the matter is a little more complicated for you Jamal. Certainly, everyone deserves a second or even a third chance, so why not. but as far as I can see, the negative feedback on your profile is not related to just one mistake, but to several. also, many of them can be interpreted as an unprofessional way of running a campaign, which even as a neutral reference is not the best recommendation for your future business.
also, some active members can withdraw their negative feedback, but several users have left this forum forever and such tags will surely remain. Lauda, Zepher, marlboroza, Lutpin...

probably this post of your apology and self-reproach will not be enough, you will have to prove yourself with your actions. You also didn't honestly say why only now, 3+ years after everything, are you asking for correction of feedback on your account?
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It's great to have you admit your past mistakes, but I don't expect people to remove all their tag from your profile just for condoning mistakes. I tend to think that the tag should stay in place for your potential people or customers to understand the risks. You can still do everything with this account including being nice and 100% honest with anyone, running campaign or something, but your past issues should be kept in mind as why it's risky.

I'm also not one of those people you've directly or indirectly harmed, but there are plenty of other people in this community feeling the impact of your troubles. I think they can forgive you to some extent, but they should still remember you as a bad person when it comes to campaign management. I guess you will no longer be as clean as before regardless of how many DT's will remove the tag or turn it neutral.
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I take full responsibility for the mistakes I have made in the past

but I have made poor choices and worked with scam projects as a bounty manager. However, I did not run away, but stayed here and continued using the forum.
When you're making an apology and say you're taking full responsibility for "mistakes", it's never a good idea to put a "but" in it, which is exactly what you've done.  I don't believe you're either apologizing or trying to make amends to the community, nor do I believe your promises that you won't keep on doing what you've been doing.

I'm going to be completely honest here: I suggested you open up a thread here so that everyone could blast you to smithereens, and I didn't really think you'd open yourself up to so much scrutiny and criticism given how much negative feedback you have.  The red trust I gave you was from March of 2018, and since then you've only continued to get more negatives from other members.  I've got a feeling you're asking me for feedback removal almost 3 years after it was given because you're planning on getting involved in some big project in which it's likely people are going to get screwed.

I believe in second chances, believe me, but you've used up any goodwill points you might have had with people who've seen you fuck things up for years.  My feedback will stand.
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Its their personal choice to decide whether they want to give you a chance or not, well I would like to speak for myself, despite of having multiple negative tags you are still being an active member of this forum which is convincing for me to give you a chance, and if its decided based on vote definitely I will be voting for you cause most others will left forum and come up with new account to build everything from scratch.
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I think most people deserve a second chance and I know many have gotten it on this forum, but in this particular case I agree with @lovesmayfamilis and I wonder how many chances the OP deserves if this is the third or fourth? I'm not one of those who was harmed in any way by the OP's actions, and I'm not one of those who supported the flag or left negative feedback, but all those who have a part in it should think carefully about whether it's time to change their opinion.

There is a saying that says "the wolf changes its hair, but its temper never changes".
I read lovesmayfamilis and I agree with him too but when I saw the revised feedback from nutildah, I think he is right too.

@jamalaezaz may be you need to start working hard and only focus on receiving projects. Be picky this time, give them whatever offer you have for them so that they give you projects. It will be hard but nothing is impossible. If these users give you another chance then don't misuse it again.
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We don't know how you changed or not. Who knows? Maybe you want another chance, and you will repeat the same thing again and again because everyone is saying it's your fourth time. I wasn't there, so I don't know the case entirely. Just saw the other thread and accusations. Marlboroza left the forum, and Lutpin is not active these days. He was active a week ago. You can DM Lutpin to check this thread and make any changes if he wants.
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I think most people deserve a second chance and I know many have gotten it on this forum, but in this particular case I agree with @lovesmayfamilis and I wonder how many chances the OP deserves if this is the third or fourth? I'm not one of those who was harmed in any way by the OP's actions, and I'm not one of those who supported the flag or left negative feedback, but all those who have a part in it should think carefully about whether it's time to change their opinion.

There is a saying that says "the wolf changes its hair, but its temper never changes".
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You just opened yourself to scrutinizing how you get those feedback and based on lovesmayfamilis it's your third time asking for forgiveness

Actually, It’s based on the feedback left by nutildah on his trust page. In that feedback, he was given a third pass in the spirit of forgiveness so I guess the heading of the OP is misleading as he should be asking for a fourth chance.
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Paying those mismanagement using your own funds is what makes your negative trust remove easily rather than creating an open letter asking for forgiveness to mistakes that you commit multiple times way back to the time when you are active in campaign management.

I knew a lot of user here with negative feedback and still continue with their work to improve their mistake. You should follow that way instead of making request like this. Royse777 is the best example here.
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OP, people who have dealt with you well, of course, will support your forgiveness. but for those who have had problems with you in the past, it might be possible to forgive you. but removing negative tags in your account may be some of them won't do it for warning reasons.

if you want to continue your business, I think you can show your seriousness in improving your reputation. You can see campaign managers and bounty managers with negative tags on their accounts who are still handling campaigns. I think you understand what I mean.


By the way, you also said in the feedback you posted that you worked for a casino that was tagged a scam on the forums, although that probably has nothing to do with their case, and whatever job they gave you. I'm sure you know how it is in your interest as a forum member not to support scammers.
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I saw with your negative feedback received due your mistake at long time actually several campaigns not paying yet, I don't know how tolerant with fatal mistake when many bounties campaign not paying and how do you feel with participants spent their time, energy and and every doing task for getting stake weekly for receiving payment at the end bounties campaign.

I don't blame with how many your success campaign but can't be comparison about how much bounties campaign reward you have been corrupt, still speculative about which one is true did you steal participants campaign reward or your project handle not paying yet. I have one thing helped please give us clearly with your current failure campaign about payment, does team of bounty promoting paying or not?
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You just opened yourself to scrutinizing how you get those feedback and based on lovesmayfamilis it's your third time asking for forgiveness some of your sins are intentional, some members will forgive you others may not and some feedback will forever mark your journey here in Bitcointalk.
The most important is you have peace of mind now that you've asked for forgiveness, but it will never be the same again from then to now.
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Though it's everyone's personal decision to take, but I think mistakes are made by humans, whether intentional or unintentional, and if someone accepts their mistakes and asks for forgiveness, they do deserve to get a chance for it.

accounts connected: jamalaezaz, Digital_Lord, lady Royal, noah tall, Btcschool, involved in account trading (accounts OrangeSeller, Ardenyham, extrabyte)

I would caution all hunters not to participate in campaigns run by this "manager."
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Though it's everyone's personal decision to take, but I think mistakes are made by humans, whether intentional or unintentional, and if someone accepts their mistakes and asks for forgiveness, they do deserve to get a chance for it.
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Just chiming in here. I've had the pleasure of working with Jamal on several occasions over the last few years and have found him to be genuine, trustworthy, and reliable. I do not believe any mistakes he made in the past were out of malice.
Thanks mate for your kind words and support. you've been a great support throughout the years for that you have my utmost respect.
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Just chiming in here. I've had the pleasure of working with Jamal on several occasions over the last few years and have found him to be genuine, trustworthy, and reliable. I do not believe any mistakes he made in the past were out of malice.
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Dear community,
From the bottom of my heart, I want to express my deepest gratitude to LFC_Bitcoin and nutildah for their kindness and understanding in removing and revising their negative feedback on my profile. Their act of compassion will always hold a special place in my heart.

I have reached out to everyone else who left negative feedback and humbly requested that they reconsider their feedback. The Sceptical Chymist suggested that I open a thread and let the community decide, so here I am, standing before you with the hope of forgiveness.

I take full responsibility for the mistakes I have made in the past, and I deeply regret any harm or loss that my actions may have caused. I have never directly scammed anyone or stolen anyone's money, but I have made poor choices and worked with scam projects as a bounty manager. However, I did not run away, but stayed here and continued using the forum.

I do not want to boast, but I have also done some good things. I have helped many people, completed several successful trades, and bought items from forum users without issue. I understand that my past actions were wrong, and I have no excuses for them. But I promise to never repeat them in the future. If I work for any project in the future and if the work involves anyone else, such as bounty members, I will ensure the project escrows the payment, or I will not work with them.

In conclusion, I humbly request for the forgiveness of the Bitcoin community and for a chance to be a normal forum user once again. I ask for your support in opposing the flag on my profile
and for Lutpin, Mitchell, The Sceptical Chymist, marlboroza, and JollyGood to reconsider their feedback.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Jamal
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