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August 16, 2021, 08:43:48 AM
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With the chaos in Kabul y'all are faced with a stark choice;

Do ye submit to a totalitarian regime which mandates face coverings,destroys statues and erases historical cultural artifacts,erodes freedom of speech,churns propoganda 24/7, chops off children’s genitals to change their gender,aborts the innocent, restricts travel & religious observance & coerces experimental injections?

Or do ye submit to the Taliban?

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Is Afghanistan a red or Amber travel destination, and will ye need to be fully vaccinated before travelling? Can't really answer that but theres a dude with crazy looking eyes and a beard in your embassay over there now who might be of assistance.  Grin


I expect many merits for this quality post  Cool
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This one here sounds like one of those Taliban  Cool Roll Eyes












Ain't that de truth brother Roll Eyes

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Amazing how many Hitler supporters around this days. Commander said, time to sleep in some dirty cold ditch the "enemy" on the way.
Aye aye, sir sharing the warm bed with the wife was way to cosy anyway. Order is order after all ...
Lucky some war deserters have always been around otherwise all would have been lost a long time ago.
Like this fine chap.

In the USA during a draft, first get rid of you SSN. They won't accept you as long as you don't accept one from them. But if they do, when they say, "All people step forward who are signing up for the military," take a step backward.

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Amazing how many Hitler supporters around this days. Commander said, time to sleep in some dirty cold ditch the "enemy" on the way.
Aye aye, sir sharing the warm bed with the wife was way to cosy anyway. Order is order after all ...
Lucky some war deserters have always been around otherwise all would have been lost a long time ago.
Like this fine chap.
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Your body and your life but you are supposed to follow the rules where you are living or else you will be in the prison for sure. We have the rules and set of laws to avoid crimes, if your hand is your own then you are not supposed to stab someone with a knife in it.

If you are talking about that you are forced to work more then you can simply quit the job and make money in other way.
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how can you oppose that? my body, my choice. end of the discussion. no trespassing allowed.

blah blah. it's the most powerful slogan ever !

it reflects the WILL as the fundamental core issue ! and maybe even more basic the full owership of the individual over his own body.


It is indeed a powerful statement but what should matter the most with regards to it is the external harm that may occur to you as you independently show off your body in public. Not everyone is well-educated nor well-mannered so you cannot expect that everyone has a clear idea of respect and acting civilized. No one should ever stop you from expressing your gratefulness from having a wonderful face and body if we're talking about aesthetics but if we'll tackle about health and wellness, the sudden forceful declaration that everyone needs to be vaccinated is violating our free will. As to what is said, your body, your choice, so not even the government should interfere with our decisions on what we want to do with our body in all aspects.
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There's a reason indecent dressing in public is outlawed. You can go naked walking around in your room or backyard for all what, no one cares. But that isn't the same thing in public. It may be one's body but the way and manner one conducts oneself where others are is important. One should remember that one doesn't have to endanger the sensibilities of others just because one wants to live wantonly. A right begins where another ends.
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My body, my choice is the new : just do it !


Yes, your body your choice. But in a hostage situation, doesn't it seem like it isn't your body any longer? The vaxx idea, especially with passports, is turning into a hostage situation.


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Biden said to get vaccinated so no not taking it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAjCeMuXR0
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Your body is your own, agreed. But your body cannot just be your own if it is a danger to people around you. Rights go with an obligation.

Since there are more people dying from the jab than from Covid, who is to say which are more dangerous?

Covid hasn't been isolated so that it can be identified properly. How can anybody develop a vaxx for something they don't have a proper example of?

Check the video listed in the article here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57673725.

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I always was wondering how was it possible an idiot like Hitler could amass so much power.

Yes because he had collaborators.Without collaborators a tyrant has no power because he is just one man and a man is just flesh and bone who breaks as easily as the branch of a tree. Hitler was ruled by ego and delusion and a plentiful supply of narcotics. The Germans literally fed their soldiers on narcotics to keep them pepped.

Hitler was loyal only to his ambitions and the German media,industrialists,finance and people were his collaborators who would have easily been turned one way or another due to the circumstances he took advantage of. The demagogue used both the communist and Jew angle setting the majority against the minority as is the favoured modus operandi we see today among our political classes and their collaborators in the media and corporate sectors.

Hitler gladly took advantage of any opportunity and sacrificed anyone nescessary right up to the very collaborators when it all came falling down and then finally the the whole population and nation was sacrificed.If it was not for the recommendation of a Jewish officer Hitler would not have received that class 1 Iron Cross he always wore on his breast. A treacherous creature he was indeed.

All because the plebs tuned in to their radio (which just came on the scene back then) and believed the nonsense and fear porn he spewed out.......almost like your mainstream gov and corporate media whores do today. The beauty of it today is that these whores use the misfortunes of those minorities persecuted by Hitler to their advantage reversing every issue to insinuate any opposition is either anti semitic, racist or right wing giving them carte blanche to do and say as they please to the population as nobody wants to be associated with anti semitics or racists,extremists etc. They are very clever and would make dr goebbels look like an amateur. Their main tools are demonisation, selective facts,selective truth,and simply ignoring what is happening in the real world by switching news for entertainment (for example 7 billion concerned people could protest about some issue and they say a group of 7 thousand mainly (by saying "mainly" they are not open to defamation suits) crazy people with extreme views showed up about (various issues...never mention the main issue)then show about 30 seconds of a march and straight afterwards show some sport or a whole section about some other drivel. Today's mainstream media outlets are basically propoganda and they are the MAIN collaborators  #zombienation ;-)
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I always was wondering how was it possible an idiot like Hitler could amass so much power. Well you have the answer right here Hitler fanatics willing to sleep in a dirty ditch instead of the warm bed at home. This time round the "enemy" is so small cant be seen.
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Your body may be yours but the illness never comes to anyone. We need to be sympathetic to anyone who is sick of covid-19 and those who are caring for the sick no matter what a person looks like where they live or what language they speak try to get to know people who are working to stop the outbreak of covid-19 and taking care of sick people. The virus is entering from one person to another this is why sick people with pregnancy are prevented from getting vaccinated.
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Your body is your own, agreed. But your body cannot just be your own if it is a danger to people around you. Rights go with an obligation.
That's right, when we are tied to someone then our body is no longer our own...

a woman's body is no longer purely hers when she already has a husband and vice versa, regarding the covid vaccine everyone has the right to choose but remember that the bodies of those around you are greatly influenced by your body too.
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The extremist elements within pro abortion community have an underlying hatred towards anti vaxxers due to their assumptions all anti vaxxers are pro lifers who have issues with the said vaccine over its association with medical research using tissue from aborted fetus.
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Your body is your own, agreed. But your body cannot just be your own if it is a danger to people around you. Rights go with an obligation.
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I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical.

As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.

*we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.

Yes, of course, I am also generally pro-choice and I think the key is what we consider a human being. We don't usually consider a 2 week old fetus and we do consider a 9 month old about to be delivered. The problem is where we draw the line that says what is a human being and what is not. There will always be people who disagree.

Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.

Although I get the idea, it seems to me that you are overdoing it with the example. To begin with, killing is voluntary and I believe that the vast majority of those who do not want to get vaccinated are not thinking of voluntarily killing people. In addition, the mortality of the virus is low, and we are in a context where there are already a lot of people vaccinated, so the people most at risk who are vaccinated also have a reduced probability of ending up dying from the virus. To say that anyone who does not vaccinate is potentially killing is too much of an exaggeration. 



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American soldiers have the right  to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out.

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of course... lose salaries, pension, benefits...

and then who will be in the military? the forced vaxxers... ready to roam and vaxx...

the plan is perfect.

what I love about it, is :

they want their freedom, they will have to fight (easily) for it, or they remain slaves and perish as such.

it's perfect.

it's their call, I won't raid the pentagon or the house of austin... I can't swimm an ocean, and I am banned from all transports so... it's up to them Smiley.

Since you are stuck in that prison or funny farm, start learning the law in your spare time, so you can teach your friends enough law that they can get you out of there.

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Yeah, your body - your choice.
Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm?
There's no need to argue with this.

I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Smiley
Just as I've said, there's no need for it to be argued. Get those and put that as you say.

you're right, arguing with this guy can cause a nervous breakdown, I honestly wonder who the brave one who lives in the same house as him can talk to him without getting angry and wanting to take a dick hit him on the head just to get him out of this his delusion and being on the same frequency as normal people

IF you want a full background check, I just did my second shit of the morning, it was more aerated that the first one, as I only eated tomatoes with mozarella yesterday evening...

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man you need to get a vaccine, maybe your problem with the vaccine is driving you crazy, I urgently recommend that your relative tie you up and take you to the vaccine and then put you in isolation for a few days to get back to normal


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American soldiers have the right  to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out.

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of course... lose salaries, pension, benefits...

and then who will be in the military? the forced vaxxers... ready to roam and vaxx...

the plan is perfect.

what I love about it, is :

they want their freedom, they will have to fight (easily) for it, or they remain slaves and perish as such.

it's perfect.

it's their call, I won't raid the pentagon or the house of austin... I can't swimm an ocean, and I am banned from all transports so... it's up to them Smiley.
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Yeah, your body - your choice.
Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm?
There's no need to argue with this.

I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Smiley
Just as I've said, there's no need for it to be argued. Get those and put that as you say.
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American soldiers have the right  to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out.

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this of course doesn't apply to american soldiers.

ps last post was interestingly the 176 and this one the 177 Smiley. who knows...
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There is a famous saying: “Your freedom ends when the freedom of others begins.” Meaning you are really free, but you are not free to harm others because they have the right to live in peace. If the freedom in your body leads to harming others, then you are not free. Not taking the vaccine may lead to your injury and infecting others with disease, so you are not free in this case because you cause great harm to society and the government has the right in this case to force everyone to take the vaccine. You live in a community and you have to respect communal living and you must give up some of your freedom for the sake of the community.
If the killer says that he is free to kill people, and the thief also says that he is free to steal people's money, what will happen to society in this case? The same thing in the case of the vaccine, and if everyone abstains from taking the vaccine and says I am free with my body, what will happen to society in this case?
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I thought you were talking about abortion before I realized it was about vaccines. Seemed odd you were advocating for a pro-choice stance.

No one is trying to force you to stick a needle in your arm. There's vaccine mandates maybe in a few EU countries and a few localities in the US, and most of them aren't even forcing anything, they just say incredibly stupid things in order to promote people getting the vaccine.
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yes it does

if the injections works at intended (protect you, fully, like any real vaccine) there is no need for a pass as your are protected and risk free
if the injection doesn't work, same, no need for a pass.
aka if you are injected and still transmitting aka not blocking the spread, the pass is useless but to identify you once the side effects really kick in (according to estimate 3 years after injection in humans, personnally waiting for at least 7 generations to be safe and secure).

No. Your assertion is only valid if everyone has been vaccinated. In the real world, some people have been vaccinated and some haven't. If the vaccine is effective, then the pass can be used to prove that someone is 'safe'. Without the pass, there is no proof.
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical.

As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.

*we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.


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That image makes no sense. Which I think the person who drew it concedes, by just having lines rather than arrows joining the boxes - without arrows, it's just a vague set of ideas with no process flow. If the vaccines are effective, then of course it is useful to know whether or not someone has been vaccinated.


wrong a feotus is a miracle of life, an act of  god, however it belond, imho, to the mother, as she is the one in harmony with it. and if she doesn't want it, she is free legally, but not morally, to terminate her pregancy. Orcas female drop often first born as they are too contaminated to live due to pollution, having absorbed most toxines, making the next ones with more survival chances.

yes it does

if the injections works at intended (protect you, fully, like any real vaccine) there is no need for a pass as your are protected and risk free
if the injection doesn't work, same, no need for a pass.
aka if you are injected and still transmitting aka not blocking the spread, the pass is useless but to identify you once the side effects really kick in (according to estimate 3 years after injection in humans, personnally waiting for at least 7 generations to be safe and secure).
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical.

As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.

*we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.


try to understand this
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That image makes no sense. Which I think the person who drew it concedes, by just having lines rather than arrows joining the boxes - without arrows, it's just a vague set of ideas with no process flow. If the vaccines are effective, then of course it is useful to know whether or not someone has been vaccinated.
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Yeah, your body - your choice.
Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm?
There's no need to argue with this.

I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Smiley

Vaccination or isolation is not just to restrict you, but to protect the people around you.OP tell the truth, are you saying these things when you are being quarantined? I will check your historical posts in a while

your second dose, already has diminished your mental capabilties... I guess micro blood cloth in your brains.

try to understand this :


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furthermore those are EXPERIMENTAL SHOTS ! how many generations have they been tested on? 0. how many months? 18 max, total time since discovery of mRNA 20 years. I rest my case.

IF you want a full background check, I just did my second shit of the morning, it was more aerated that the first one, as I only eated tomatoes with mozarella yesterday evening...

The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.

yeah, those are the lost evangelicals aka wasps, irrelevants, they will follow anyone who show them a cross, even to the point of murdering and killing hundred of thousand innocents across the world... and even in their own country, it's like it shut their brain off... cross = good. end.

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how can you oppose that? my body, my choice. end of the discussion. no trespassing allowed.

blah blah. it's the most powerful slogan ever !

it reflects the WILL as the fundamental core issue ! and maybe even more basic the full owership of the individual over his own body.



I heard this slogan before, but I don't remember in which context. What are people using it for? Maybe it is a justification to be overweight? So nobody can say anything against it, even if it is very unhealthy.
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
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Please think more about it, so that your brain does not look like a mirror when the doctor dissects your brain after death.

Your body is indeed your body. He belongs to you, but if you have a virus in your body and you wander around, it’s your fault.

Vaccination or isolation is not just to restrict you, but to protect the people around you.OP tell the truth, are you saying these things when you are being quarantined? I will check your historical posts in a while
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Yeah, your body - your choice.
Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm?
There's no need to argue with this.
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In case your government determines that all people must take a vaccine to save people's lives then you are obliged to take a vaccine

1. I am not a tree
2. a gov is made to serve the people, not the contrary
3. a gov, and all it's members can be executed, including their children, remember the tsar of all russia, the king of france, and the list goes on

we are more than them, always.
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you are looking like those 4 year olds when they want something and the parents know that the child is asking for something that is not good for them, the parents do not give it. There are laws and rules to make people able to live together peacefully and when a person shows that they do not want to respect these laws and rules, the system makes that person have to respect the force. so you have your body but you also have to respect the laws and rules, in case your government determines that all people must take a vaccine to save people's lives then you are obliged to take a vaccine
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how can you oppose that? my body, my choice. end of the discussion. no trespassing allowed.

blah blah. it's the most powerful slogan ever !

it reflects the WILL as the fundamental core issue ! and maybe even more basic the full owership of the individual over his own body.

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