Topic: My conspiracy theory about spammers (Read 434 times)

Well yes, but is it clearly defined what goes under bitcoin discussion? I mean, anything that's concerning bitcoin can go over there, tho there are some that definitely should be in different section but then you have " the general environment,etc.." in description...

I have also observed this. I saw a post by a member here posting that he is having problem getting his first merit. I was responding to his thread after few days and he already got 3 merits till then for other posts. I checked his past posts and they were much better than the posts he made before making hat thread.

I also remember a post about someone selling his house for bitcoin investment. It looked like a way to get attention and was quite old post. When I checked recent posts of that person, he was making awesome contribution in alt coin section.

Read this https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/01/27/disinformation-part-1-how-trolls-control-an-internet-forum/

Go read about "forum sliding" and "inoculating the truth against the public" and then tell me if my assumptions are not valid.

Bitcointalk used to be a place where the top Bitcoiners discussed everything intellectual about Bitcoin. Its technical direction, its economics and more importantly its politics. I believe "they" are trying to disrupt those kinds discussions to make the public "blind".

I am pretty sure I have seen a few shill posters on here, but I wouldn't say the forum is under a spam attack, as I rarely come across a post I would genuinely consider completely spam. I think a lot of people come here thinking that they have finally found the promised land, and then realize this is more hostile territory than they are used to, and their low quality posts won't be tolerated.

Any proof or source of "attack" that you are saying?

The are always misleading title of the topic which were already caught the attention of the readers. Since the merit system was implemented, many people are correcting other post rather than giving their opinion to it. It is still depend on the power of your research if you will believe this spams.

There's only so much you can talk about in economics so usually it's not a problem but, with Bitcoin discussion a wide variety of posts fit within it and then it's the top category and therefore there's a lot  of posts which are put in there when they belong in other sections.

The first part was a joke on conspiracy theories, wasn't being serious. I thought people would notice the sarcasm (little hard to notice over text but I still tried to make it so over the top to be noticeable). 

Well economy still has 1 in 6 good threads, unlike bitcoin discussion, but still there's speculation board that has some nice topics that are worth the read for info unleast.

Who are They? Bankers? Roger Ver? CIA?
C'mon, it's only account farmers and lazy shiposters who don't know English language well, have very limited knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and came here to earn easy money by making low quality posts without putting any effort. I don't that we need to make conspiracy theories about them. 

Or you know, they shitpost in order to get some posts on this forum so they can make whatever thread they want in the future/post images?

That does not make sense. Please explain why.


I know it sounds crazy, but read this, https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/01/27/disinformation-part-1-how-trolls-control-an-internet-forum/

Read about "forum sliding" and "inoculating the public against the truth".

On the surface it looks like the "motive" is only profit. But I believe it's something deeper.

I think the spammers are those who are trying to do the farming account. They try to create multiple accounts to follow sginature campaign. But now there are so many spammers who disappeared, they do not seem to be able to do the free as before because after the merit system then they have to think several times. With the merit this time we should admit that the spammers have been greatly reduced. So we are still in the process of progress towards a much better forum and certainly not a conspiracy on behalf of those who are meritorious in this forum !!

No, this is an inside job. Theymos payed spammers to flood the forum and spread it all over the web. They're all in... Admin, mods, legendary members,etc... Also, nullius is satoshi. He just appeared out of nowhere. Wake up, sheeple!

Bitcoin discussion is over flooded, you can't find one, rarely some, serious topic with readable answers. Going there once a day and there's nothing at all. Economy is still okay to some extent.

There is many types of spam in this forums but let me point out at the one that present 90%+ of it which is  account farmers for the sake of all kind of campaigns ( Signature , Twitter , Facebook etc .... ) . As people said above they are people that search for ways to make money , i see no wrong on that if the person using only one account and trying to post at least something that can people  understand ( I am probably on of them I some time searching for something that I can post and try my best to post something that add to the discussion or maybe ask a question on Ann thread that not asked before , maybe sometimes I fail but at least I am trying and I only have one account )   but we all know that it is not the case .

The Merit system is not doing the job it invented for , anyone can notice this , i just noticed on my local forums that people are giving Merit +17 +15 for just an Ann thread and guess what they return the favor by giving Merit for simply no reason for the same person that gave them , it is so obvious .

I said before in the Merit system thread that it will not work and we should just cut % from every Campaign  running ( Something like a fee to run campaign in this forums ) and hire Admins that all there job would be delete spam posts , they will get paid really good and the money will come from the main source of the problem ( Campaigns ) this would be  a fair solution .

Blame the Moms at home joining the forum without even knowing what is a block, as well the teenagers who find an easy way to get money to buy the latest Iphone 37.

You think I am joking right? Nope, I am serious. I know because I see them daily on Twitter, and as they're using their real photo bio, I can see easily the type of audience they belong too. Recently it becomes popular to use the hashtag #Bitcointalk #Airdrop #Bounties in their Bio ... It's funny because they create the same garbage there on Twitter (and surely FB) I try to avoid them like the Aids, you can't imagine how my blocked list is huge

Back to the topic. I need to tell you the funniest shitposts I have read here.

"All bitcoins have been mined"
"Satoshi can't log in Bitcointalk because his account is compromised"

Most of the people joining here are either penny banger, they found a method to make money on an MMO blog. Yes, I saw that once, a blog about how to make some bucks online turned to how to make money on Bitcointalk...
Or 3rd countries spreading the word to brothers, cousins, moms, grandma, neighbors and the whole city,  that here they are plenty of fishes swimming in a huge swimming pool

How much fee they should pay?
I think it is very hard or complicated to enforce the idea, they just can't.

For them a single satoshi is a satoshi save, just like satoshi intended it to be, he would not round up the 21millionBTC if he didn't reckon that a single satoshi wouldn't going to have a price in the future. 1:1 satoshi to dollar.

This attack is costing them nothing, there should be a cost, but man if anybody would ever listens to me? imagine 5000 unemployed people, they all have more than a few accounts. they only have one job. posting with 10 accounts and earn money.

Merit is a barrier for new accounts, we already have so many old accounts, they don't need merits. they don't care if people are annoyed. they are free to post and will never stop. there is only one solution: make them to pay tax. charge a fee per post for Jr, member, full member. if they are interested in Bitcoin, they should keep contributing and earn merits to rank up. if they want to earn money, they should pay a fee.

since in applying to the system MERIT, spammers increasingly busy making posts that are not important.
there is no benefit from their posting, they just chase Merit.
please to report to the moderator if you meet unnecessary and repeated garbage postings.

Ok but what actually constitutes spam that should be reported. I tend to report if it's off-topic, a few meaningless words or so badly written I can't understand it. They are almost all from Brand New or Newbie accounts and most likely bots. But I don't report the typical signature spam. So example, I've just been to Bitcoin Discussions and the latest post is:

Thread If people stop buying bitcoin Page 47
Post:

From a Jr Member with paid signature. Obviously spam but if I report that then I'd report thousand a day. Is that what I should do?

Where do paid signature spammers come into this? They belong to neither of those groups. There are probably very few trolls here who just do it for fun.


I think if signatures were removed you would notice a difference. If that ever happens this forum would probably become almost a utopia (or at least it would feel like it compared to the current climate).


Just making signatures less flashy won't really do anything. As long as signatures are there people will still get what they can for them.

I believe there are 2kinds of spammer. The serious spammer who's main intention is to cause trouble, misinformation, FUD, FOMO and to discredit the forum and/or lose the credibility of the forum .
The second one is the attention seeker spammer who's spamming just for fun, bored people who's doing nothing just want to get people attention.

For me, the first one is the worst spammer but the second one is lethal. Because the bored spammer have no goals thus they don't stop.

There's nothing we can do about it.
You can still Private Message each other though and to further enhance the security PGP is all over the place this nullius spam the community with great details of knowledge.

The information is still surviving in the depth of discord.

Seriously? The only "attack" there is is by people who either are very young and/or can't speak English very well and want to try earn as much money as they can from posting. This is of course a recipe for disaster and only gets worse when they start farming multiple accounts to maximise earnings. Why would people bother writing anything of substance or something that requires effort and thought when you only need to write a sentence or hit some sort of minimum character count to get paid? When you've got multiple accounts time is money so you'll just string out a sentence or two then move on to the next account and rinse and repeat. This is why the merit system was introduced so hopefully it will start to curb this sort of behaviour.

Get reporting then. If we are talking about spammers then report them because that's the only way they are going to get cleaned up because there just isn't enough manpower to enforce the hundreds of spammers per section.

I would probably disagree with your original statement that this is an attack though. This has always happened it's just more exaggerated due to Bitcoin rising in popularity recently.

But not the solution.

But would you agree in making that the top subforum above "Bitcoin discussion" be good? I believe it might be.


Bitcoin Discussion, Economics, and Speculation need to be cleaned in my opinion. The discussions in them should be maintained well and be held in the highest care.

Serious discussion exists.

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Also, I don't exactly remember the last time there was actually an important discussion in areas that are heavily spammed (i.e. Bitcoin Discussion, Economics, Trading Discussion, Gambling, etc.)

You can still find some good stuff in Technical Discussion (and to a lesser extent, Technical Support) and Mining (thank god for -ck).

I believe this is an "attack". They will flood and spam the forum with useless and stupid topics to make it hard for us to discuss important matters about Bitcoin to make all of us ignorant. Plus it also serves their agenda to misinform the unknowledgeable.