Topic: My favorite loser (Read 327 times)

In order for that to happen, he will need to recognize that he is not perfect and that he needs help to overcome his problems, but according to the OP, this tennis player is too arrogant on the field and outside of it, so for a person like that is incredibly difficult to do something as simple as to ask for help, so I suppose that the problems with his weak mentality will go on, until he finally does not have the skill level to compete with those at the top and he is finally left behind by the sport.

Seems like you already not a fan of this guy, I can see the much laughter while reading your comment.

psychological problems, Is he not able to seek a therapist? I don't think it has to do with any of that most players/celebrities are now getting their fame up to their head, we see them online making barbarous replies to fans and people around them. He should work first on his attitude this will help give him a free mind to step up his wins. If not we can still continue staking on him to lose, unfailingly he will .

Bet against the loser hahah why not because you can huge multiply from it and by read your story you made a lot of money from it hahaha just look at the Stefanos Tsitsipas and the history at the first match he always win heck in a recent match he always win

LOL, but he was one of my favorite tennis player when I was that active in betting in this sports. You can see way back that I back him up in the tennis thread whenever he has a game. However, I've seen him somewhat losing easy matches and then early round exits. I even try to defend him at times because I believed that he could be a top 1 player in the future.

And it seems that he can't really get over the hump and then winning championships as he melted under the pressure.

So now I stay away from him or at least haven't followed the tennis thread for years because of my disappointment with Stefanos.

It's possible that what's playing out with him is likely a psychological problem he isn't able to talk to people about. The problem with today's society is that we assume that all these top celebrities and alpha figured individual have things all figured out for themselves and so won't face situations like this. Dude is human and his lifestyle might have have had impact on his overall sports productivity.

If this is a thread  that's common with his play, I don't see anything wrong if you leverage on this to your advantage. If you refused staking at all because you feel that he's passing an hard time in his games, it doesn't stop him from playing his game and loosing or winning it depending on the outcome of the days game. If you stake and wins from it, you've only used a situation you have not ability of controlling to your favour. But I guess he has a manager that knows what's going on with him and has had a record of his consistent losses to have thought on talking to him or guiding him right so he improves in maintaining his win and not win at the start and go on to always loose before the play comes to a close.

Lol, that's interesting. Someone who is into betting on tennis and has knowledge and experience in the sport should follow his progress to see if this actually works for them as well. We often see some players or teams that are very skilful, they dominate at the beginning but unlucky for them, they don't manage to win a lot of games or a lot of tournaments they participate in, and this happens in every sport.

However, I would suggest whoever follows such a pattern for their bets, they shouldn't do it without research because it is also important to know who the guy is playing against because if his opponent is weaker than him, he might manage to win the game and you might lose your bet if you had bet against him.

I don't have any favorite losers since my pursuit of gambling bets is mostly for the wins not for having a favorite loser at heart to bet against them.

If I notice a team or person is not at their best performance in any gambling sport I choose to bet, I don't mind placing my betting against them even though I was once their fan before they started to have a bad performance.

Gambling involves people making cool cash. If we focus more on picking a team to be our favorite loser or winner, we may not always be on a lucky note each time we make a pick for our favorite loser or winner. For instance, you see how Chelsea, Tottenham, and Manchester United, turned from a losing team to a winning team towards the end of the PL. Many gamblers would have picked any of them as their favorite losers because of their bad performance weeks back.

Sure mate, every opportunity could be a good strategy if only you could utilise the opportunity to properly underscore the parties involved.  As a smart gambler, you would want to take note of your opponents weakness so you could use it against him while gambling and that is what OP did and it is working for OP.

You could imagine going to bet that a player would lose a game confidently and it works out perfectly well for you without any argument. Although it sounds some how but it is a game and every gambler would want to win their stakes with every available means void of discrepancies.

Lastly, I believe there is no law against a player being strategic in their games. As it is that every one wants to win, the more reasons why players would want to be strategic with any available means of winning their games. So therefore, the direction which they bet or stake towards does not matter as long as it is aimed at winning the game.

Gamble is important and also necessary for football lovers. Gambling should be meant for fun and not the other way round. Perhaps to win profits in the system is hard enough but ee shoulr alwaye precautions to safeguard ourselves. Gambling is 50/50 and we should not raise our hopes on games because the system comes with volatile outcome. Expects less from these predicateable matches and wait for incredible results when the system decides to favour us.

Something that is Disappointing is seeing someone who treats any of their parents badly, because they are a person who must learn to respect, whatever the situation may be, they must learn to handle it, there is no need to do things in a crazy way, a a person who does not know how to control his temperament and acts like that, well, if he loses Everything that comes his way , he Cannot become a person who goes against everything because it will go Badly for him, that is what is known, not only for him. As a player and as an athlete, he is the perfect Example that anger brings nothing good , only Losses , that is Exactly what you should never do.

That's some extreme loser type a shit lol. Imagine having the world at the palm of your hands and still not being able to do anything with it. and to rub salt to the wound, he's not even that good with the one thing that he's clearly known for. Talk about some fucking sad type of shit.

The only thing that he can really do for himself at this point is to start off with a fresh slate, start training like crazy, become the best version of himself, as for his attitude, it would serve well for him to go to a therapist and have some form of intervention that would strip away all of that ego, he's still young yes, but it's one thing to have angst, it's another to be a general prick to the people you were supposed to be nice to.

Soon as he's able to do these, go lay-low, don't show up to the public, much better if you become even more secretive than you already are, public eye will always root for your downfall and if you let them have their way into your life they'll make the most out of it and fuck with your recovery.

I'm kinda rooting for this guy's recovery, but at the same time, if he ends up wasted then there's not really much we can do I guess.

Indeed, as a gambler, every opportunity can indeed be viewed as a strategy towards winning the game. I'm certain you've been observant of his gameplay for quite some time and have identified his weaknesses, using them to your advantage in ensuring favorable odds for your own game. It's undeniably smart and effective on your part.

understanding the game and seizing every opportunity are indeed pivotal to success. Everyone aims to emerge victorious in their wagers, so acquiring knowledge on how to place bets should be at the crux of any game that piques your interest, along with implementing a good strategy based on this acquired information. Your dedication to such depth is duly noted; after all, using available information and strategies to enhance your chances of winning is an intrinsic part of the art of gambling itself.

What an opportunity to earn as much as you want! but  my only concern is that many gamblers would not be gambling against him just for the sake of gambling, many still have this hate and disgust for him that they will bet against him effortlessly without thinking twice, even if the games are in his favour. While using this very opportunity to earn from his shortcomings this period, they should also be vigilant and bet with wisdom without sentiments because the game might change any moment and lots of gamblers would go home crying. Enjoy the moment while it lasts and don't forget to be vigilant.

Very good odds, especially if you win on this bet. Apart from betting and gambling, we discuss the other side of this athlete. To be honest, I don't really follow developments in the world of this sport. Moreover, tennis can debut a top type of sport that is enjoyed and can be played by certain groups of people. I mean, the stigma of a sport like tennis is that it is a sport for middle and upper class people. although in reality, it doesn't have to be like that. What I say is based on the point of view of cultural and cultural influences in a country. Simply put, in my country this type of sport is not like football which is more popular. So, it is very natural that many athletes in tennis come from middle to upper class people.
well, other than that I really don't know this guy. Please understand, I am less involved in betting other than football. based on the results of what you posted, especially since we are also discussing someone's personality. Not a few, an athlete is depicted in an attitude that is not worthy of emulation. actually we only see the outside, or what we see. even though, there will always be factors that trigger cause and effect.

Well, either Stefanos Tsitsipas is arrogant or arrogant because of his attitude. it's not in our capacity to judge him, especially since I don't know anything about this person. But one thing is certain, to be sure to bet, especially on sports. A person must be based on knowledge and experience to support the success of a prediction. Yes, as you might do. because you know the character and history of Stefanos Tsitsipas, and maybe also his opponent. As a result of your analysis, in the end you may decide to speculate and consider betting directly. and yeah, you win for that. congratulations, there is no other word than that.

It is very funny though but I must say that there could be a turn of event at anytime against your odds. Looking at the fact that he is arrogant and ignorant it just not tally with his personality as a sportsman. Every sportsman I know is a gentleman and should always exhibit that sportsmanship spirit in them. I think he would have to work on himself properly.

Lastly, as a gambler every opportunity could be a good strategy to winning a game. I believe you have long been following up with his games and have known his weakness and possibly you have been using it to run your games against him with good odds. That is a nice strategy for you and I don't hold it against you as it is a game of interest and everyone wants to win their bet so studying and knowing what and how to bet in any game that interests you is not a problem.

Tsitsipas really is a clown and because of his up and down performances where he sometimes showed lack of effort there were even some voices that accused him of match fixing.
Obviously he is a very high level player and he is earning a lot so fixing doesn't make any sense. But, it sure looked like it sometimes, haha.

My favourite loser of all time in Tennis is ex German pro Philipp Kohlschreiber, best rank number 16 in the ATP ranking. He always had a lot of potential but for some reason never made anything out of it. Sure he won some titles but so often I saw him throwing away big leads against top 10 players, this guy really cost me a lot of nerves in the past so I really dislike him with all of my heart. 

follow the performance of the single player/team is always an advantage since allow gambler to focus only in few elements.
in this case, the player is really famous and favorited, this is the reason opponents get really higher odds.

however there is an upside. sometimes he can plays against an unknown player and this can lead to mistake.
I have tried to apply such strategy many times (like with Sinner...) and it has a good % of rate win.

Yes, we have that player or team that we love to bet against and are happy that he or they loses. For me, it's a boxer. I made good money betting against friends; that boxer was Rolly Romero. I won a bet when he went against Gervonta Davis and did it again when he fought Pitbull Cruz. Who would say no to Rolly? He is strong and has a good knockout ratio.
I wish he would return so I can bet against him and hopefully lose; the feeling is gratifying when you see a guy like Romero lose a fight.

that is why I always emphasize that the gambling is a game of opportunity because you Almighty gamble today and you end up losing why you think that you are experience gambler why someone who has not gambled before me gamble only but once for the first time and the win a huge amount of money for the first time gambling

It's possible the athlete doesn't deal well with pressure considering the history of events involving him shared by you. Skills aren't the problem, as he displays outstanding performance at the beginning of competitions, but as the matches go further he feels the burden over his shoulders and can't find internal mechanisms to calm down and remain focused on the game like he does at the beginning of the tournaments. Under high pressure and expectations cold athletes perform better, because they are able to maintain their moods despite aversive scenarios presented to them.

The arrogant, though, is too choleric to be able to remain stable. That must be part of his personality, so it's really hard to change, although not impossible, I suppose.

Well, in the case of football, there are really some clubs I can boldly bet against if they are playing with a higher club, and I know very well that they are no match for the club they are playing with. For example, comparing Liverpool to Fulham,etc, I always win my bet if I bet against Fulham to lose when they have any competition with Liverpool. There are some clubs that I bet against when they have match with big clubs that I am aware they cannot defeat. Talking about players, I don't really have any players I bet against for their repeated losses. 

I'm not too concerned about an individual's private life, but through the way you share and state the betting basis, I feel good about your choices.

A little problem when I came into contact with this story, it gave me the feeling that we are all imperfect from the perspective of others, and for the subject in question, it seems like we should forgive and wish them wel he soon realized the path to better himself.

As for betting, this is a typical story of someone else's suffering bringing joy to someone else, something I find better described as the polarity of "in white there is black, and in black there is white"

Well, we have our own 'darkness' or negativity especially with our attitudes once affected by emotions. If Mr. Tsitsipas has this rough behavior of hom, then for sure there's a reason. One I am suspecting is high expectations from his craft which makes him easily and often frustrated lf losing. Is it a bad thing? Well, actuallly not. He just knows what he's capable of but things might not be going in accordance with what he really wanted.

However, you are after winning your bet therefore it wouldn't be an issue since biases are not the bottomline. Good thing that OP saw this as an advantage and make use of this to help yourself. Even if it is with other sports, such thing is quite evident to many players. Taking gambling into consideration, the only way we should be minding these behaviors is when we are analyzing our bet.

The strategy is good and not the first time that gamblers use that skill. When you talk about betting against favourite loser, you can also have it as favourite winner so anytime you see that winner in the game then you bet in his favour. Like if you look in soccer, the strategy also work when you consider clubs head to head, away or home and other options to see what options best fit for the stake. Some clubs are difficult to defeat at home and for certain clubs playing against them at home they have not lost, so that will be a better research and analysis before staking. Regards to having a best loser or winner, that is not in tennis but in soccer

Chelsea and Manchester United as the favorite team of losers sometimes this team is always promising but what we saw some time before is even losing and we lost the bet while Chelsea is now better when this team is bet in the last 3 matches it won but for Manchester United not yesterday's match missed to bet because it knew the results would be bad it was not.

Finally can also calm down to hear your story why bitcointalk username Sunderland is a small team but you have an interesting impression first.

I don't have a permanent favorite loser, what I do is that in every season, I do observe the weakest club that always finds it difficult to win their games and bets against them because there is a high probability that they will lose the match. Initially when this season started after watching Chelsea's performance with bad results, I always bet against them, but that stopped after they started winning.

I decided to start betting on Manchester united as my favorite loser but I lost in their last match because they won the game. I am a football fan and loves strong football clubs.

It's not the money actually, what I mean his attitude that I don't want to consider him as my favorite. But for the sake of winning streak, betting would be potential for wins upon seeing this guy loses along the way. That's purely gambling, so I don't really take it so serious on him and what's important to me is the amount to be won for my bets.

Very often when it comes to those at the very top of the performance curve, the difference between athletes is not dictated by physical ability but by their mentality, so this athlete with his behavior is showing very clearly that while he may have what it is necessary to become a great player, he keeps sabotaging himself, and until he is open enough to admit fault, he will never change and will become a target for skilled gamblers like you, which has found out this tendency of his to keep accumulating profits by betting against him.

Personally I don't have a favorite loser but the concept seems too good to me, and I might pick someone as my favorite loser in coming times.

I place my bets by doing research on teams, of course I prefer to bet against the weak teams because they most probably lose against better teams unless there's hidden match fixing behind the scenes.

Most of the times I bet on cricket matches as those can give very good wins if you do your research well, but if you don't do research and pick a team as your favorite then chances of losing may be higher.

I have never noticed Stefanos Tsitsipas maybe because I am not a fan of tennis and he has not also won a major competition that would have brought his name to the spotlight in my location. But I assume that he becomes furious when he is losing or not having a good game. This means his anger issue will not show up if he is winning. Then the solution is for him to have a straight win or learn how to control his anger. His arrogance might not also be the reason for his misfortune because many great players were also proud. But in my culture, if you disrespect your parents, it is believed that it could bring bad luck, maybe it might be the reason for his near-win syndrome. And there is a verse in the holy Bible which states that pride leads to fall.

I don't see it as wicked or wishing the player bad, it's just a betting strategy that has been working for him.

Any NBA team with Lebron is my favorite losers. I’m not a hater of Lebron but I love betting against his teams since there’s a lot of cry baby supporters and bandwagon whenever they enter on playoffs.

His team usually valued more that makes opponents team have higher odds that is perfect for betting. Lebron team always which is perfect to capitalize especially when they are facing teams that low key solid team. 

That's very wicked of you to track a player just so that you can bet against him and profit out of it.
It's funny and wise at the same time. So far I haven't known any such kind of a loser because I haven't had such a perspective yet.
But yes, this looks good from profit making point of view.

We may try to see it from the aspect of making profits from it, but there is no one who would have been known for being a loser and you discover that such player is still being used continuously in a match, no one will like to go for a poor performance in gambling even though they know that such player would fail, then everyone will bet same and we already know the outcome to such game already, even the best professional players do make mistakes and fail to deliver up to expectations, yet we bet on either winning or loosing on them because of the certain level of confidence we have developed on them.

He needs a behavioural coach if he wants to pursue his dream of becoming a champion. He will eventually learn this when he has too many losses and people close to him tell him what's wrong with his game. However, there are some players who are very hyped about what they do, so they become very temperamental. They cannot play without being hyped; they like to play angry, and they want to be notorious for this.

A few years ago, I had a boxer who was my favourite loser, and I kept betting on him because of his temperament. That boxer was Mayorga. He is notorious for trash-talking his opponents, and he ends up losing the fight; he is one of boxing's bad boys.

My favorite loser is a club from England in the Championship div now, the club name is Sunderland, yep that is my username.
Many people ask why your username is Sunderland and not another big and famous club from England? because this club has often given me money by betting against them since 2013 lol.

They rarely win in a row (Asian Handicap) and their performance has always been unstable since 10 years ago.
Betting against a favorite loser like this must use the Martingale system and not with the Money Line but always use Asian Handicap.

Well that's a smart way of betting, I mean you bet in a matches and pick the winner or the side that you think will win based on your analysis to a certain person or player, and one of the example of that is what you have said in your topic, that you are betting in the opposite player that will up against the loser you are saying, you make a smart bet for that, and for that you have earn quite an amount which proves that a better could have any useful information of either the team or the players, by using statistics, news or analysis to a specific player or teams you can have the hint of who will most likely to win in a match and I think that is the smartest and strategic way of betting, not just betting just because it is your favorite team or what, bet according to your information's and data's.

I don't have any favorite losers to bet but maybe I will pick randomly for the player to select for my bet. That's fun as I just select that player and see my lucky comes or not without thinks about wins or lose.
If I lose, I can accepts that as I realizes that's my fault not to analyze the match before but that's enough for me. But if I wins, I considers that's because my luck helps me to wins.
I don't thinks about many things and just pick what my hearts say and lets it happens. After all, I just spend my free time by doing that so that will no needs to takes too long to place a bet

That was Chelsea, though I won't denote them to be a favourite losing team for me but in this just about to be concluded EPL season Chelsea was one of those team's I find ease to bet against in the beginning and some parts of the mid season in the EPL, cause they had a very poor start and it was as though they've already lost a match before it begun, but thanks to the improvement they have recorded recently.

In the case of Mr Tsitsipas it is what any gambler will be more than glad to take advantage of in getting a bet win as nobody really loves losing their bets even under fun. I am beginning to have the hunch that sports men with attitudinal problems finds difficulty in reaching to the top of their games in all competitions in their career. Not that they lack the connoisseur needed to excel excellently in that field but they for no just unexplainable reason struggle to reach the peak.

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Maybe, Mr Tsitsipas needs to see this op about him here and make some redresses to his lifestyle as I would be more than glad to see him succeed beyond his standing records, because from what have read about him he's a fine tennis player.

In tennis there is no favorite loser,in fact in tennis we have quite a very long story of odds like that of this guy that have lost a lot of people bets,personally I have lost huge amounts as I usually copy bets of high rollers and I also try to emulate the maximum I can bet and as such I keep losing.Smart guys are people like you who get to bet on the underdog and if one underdog wins it can save you about 10 other bets with small bets,even more than that,yet the reality is that very few people keep on betting on the underdogs and seeing this bet of yours why not trying to bet on all underdogs since most of the games come not as expected and maybe we can win big with this strategy,I am going to try all the weekly bonus betting on heavy underdogs in tennis and see how it goes.

There is money to be made here, the odds are always better on such people but it is a smart move betting on this tennis player, I can't help but do the same, it is not as if i will be rewarded for choosing some who is cool headed, when it comes to money you need to be smart.

If someone's temper or anger issue is how I can make money then why not? It was never meant to be easy anyway, and knowing his to be this arrogant is good for my money, who cares? We are all humans, I don't expect everyone to be cool-headed, some will surely be arrogant.

I don't have a favorite loser to bet on like OP because I don't have the time to dig into someone else's life and behaviour, I am more of a casino game gambler I like slots and few others and the only sports game i like is football.

If you can capitalize on that arrogance that leads to a midrange up to end game poor performance, I don't think that it's going to be worth disregarding that fact, I mean OP already said it in the thread that it's a good thing to bet against him because you know that he will eventually make a really poor performance before the game ends thus netting you an easy win, if I know that for a fact, I would love that person that is making me a lot of money, that's it. Regarding his behavior, he doesn't even know that we exist and any kind of anger or ire in his arrogance isn't going to change his behavior towards the people that's around him and the society that he belongs into, I guess some people are really just like that and that they hate being a good person or they weren't raised in a good environment, only way that they can change is if they want to do the changes themselves.

Stefanos Tsitsipas, He stands out as one of Greece's finest in tennis and attaining such a notable rank at his age is no mean feat. While Tsitsipas demonstrates exceptional skill by reaching the top levels of competition, his inability to clinch victory in the final stages might point towards psychological hurdles. Indeed, going against him in bets, as you suggested, could be a lucrative move owing to this inconsistency in performance that he portrays.

I hope Tsitsipas can control his emotions,, changing his mindset, and eventually winning a grand slam. It's always gratifying when young sportsmen find success in their personal and professional lives; however, until that happens, it seems quite sensible to bet against him given his erratic play. Thank you for sharing your thoughts regarding Tsitsipas, much appreciated.

If that's the behavior of the loser being so arrogant I wouldn't bet him as my favorite, and never in my gambling activities got favoritism on particular player who lose badly.
When I bet for sports betting, it's only for the game and not for specific individual who performs the sports. I care about their emotions, they're same humam like us, a special being who strive harder in their career.
So here in gambling it's more like sportsmanship, if win then you're lucky them if not well we should accept the reality that it's not our time of fortune.

I'd like to introduce you to Stefanos Tsitsipas.

He's a top tennis player from Greece. He has been praised for achieving high ranking spots in international competitions at a fairly young age. 
Funnily enough after his rise to stardom many issues arose also. Mr. Tsitsipas became notorious for one of his dogs injuring a child and him never acknowledging it or offering compensation, instead only battling the charge in court...

In the field Mr. Tsitsipas has been characterized as arrogant. Often seen throwing fits of rage, with his parents even being targets sometimes while attending his matches as part of the audience. Some in Greece have come to call him a textbook example of an arrogant rich boy. Because aside of his won rewards, through his upbringing his family was already quite wealthy.

Well, in terms of sport performance, while Tsitsipas is able to enter into top competitions, he almost always shies away from a top spot. Usually losing in semifinals or one of the steps close before reaching the final. For some reason he usually has bombastic performance when starting a match, but ends up losing in the end. I've been tracking his matches and betting against him. The odds are usually very favorable if you bet against him live, because he usually wins at the start only to lose the final sets.

Who knows, maybe one day Mr Tsitsipas will be able to calm his nerves, improve his attitude and finally conquer at least one tournament. But until then, betting against him can be quite profitable, and perhaps even pleasurable given his arrogance. I don't say this in a bad way by the way, I truly wish him well, but it's sad to see a young man shout at his parents for simply being angry.

Here's my most recent bet with him:



Do you also have any favorite losers to bet against for profit?