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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 07, 2023, 04:37:27 AM

- I've tried that method, to be honest. In the beginning, when I first did it, it was effective for me, but later I noticed and saw that it was not effective because the game provider could see the style you were doing.

His face will show you that he doesn't understand your tactics yet, but you don't notice that he is slowly eating the large amount that you won from them. Then there should be a lot of money with that kind of technique. Because if you want to last long in the game, your gambling fund must also be long.

I haven't try it yet, but I have my own strategy when it comes to betting and just like other gamblers, It may work on me but don't work to others. If you already see it as an effective way, meaning it gives you help to win but in the long run, you have to add or improve that method and insert your own strategy so in that way, you know what are your next steps to be able to win again.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 07, 2023, 04:37:27 AM

- I've tried that method, to be honest. In the beginning, when I first did it, it was effective for me, but later I noticed and saw that it was not effective because the game provider could see the style you were doing.

My suggestion is that you have more than one betting method to be able to avoid things like that so that your chances remain optimal because whatever it is, if it can produce more wins, there must be an effort to prevent it.
Don't focus and only rely on one betting method if you really want the pleasure of playing with bets and optimizing opportunities.

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His face will show you that he doesn't understand your tactics yet, but you don't notice that he is slowly eating the large amount that you won from them. Then there should be a lot of money with that kind of technique. Because if you want to last long in the game, your gambling fund must also be long.

It is loss if you stick only with methods that can be read by the provider or the house edge.
If you persist longer, it means you will lose larger amount of money, so what the point of using this method if you only get consecutive losses.
When we realize that the method used is no longer effective and the winning money is starting to be consumed, we immediately change the way we play or immediately move to another game with another provider.

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- I've tried that method, to be honest. In the beginning, when I first did it, it was effective for me, but later I noticed and saw that it was not effective because the game provider could see the style you were doing.

His face will show you that he doesn't understand your tactics yet, but you don't notice that he is slowly eating the large amount that you won from them. Then there should be a lot of money with that kind of technique. Because if you want to last long in the game, your gambling fund must also be long.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on October 08, 2023, 04:11:00 PM

Today is meant for methods of betting. Well let see. I have not seen this method before and I don't think other members have played such method in the betting times. And from the stat your betting method, each US dollar is for one odd and that multiply to the next odd. And that becomes the $2=2odds that $1 to 1 odd. Well I will not argue with you because that is how you played your bet and win and I don't think it will also favour another person.

And I don't think using not to gamble for you is good because the day the bot will fall you, you will loss everything you have. Mostly the $10,000 to bet $10,000 is a give odd but if you loss that game, my brother you might hug transformer oh. So always gamble what you can loss. And it will not pain you.

Every one will had their own strategy to the game.If the gambler had loss the money in the gambling,he should rebuild their own betting method.The betting method also need to be calculated based the amount of the money you had lose in the gambling and the amount of the money.Because if you had 50 dollars,the strategy must be fixed for the fifty dollars and like wise if you had more money change the betting strategy to the new betting amount.The money holding was the cause of every game changing strategy in the game.

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More of a martingale strategy in my opinion; works to some but not with the majority. Not all gamblers are capable of increasing their bets ‘coz they tend to manage the risk. Losing will also take place which would be quite of a buffer if you are following a certain sequence.

Quote from: Mate2237 on October 08, 2023, 04:11:00 PM

Today is meant for methods of betting. Well let see. I have not seen this method before and I don't think other members have played such method in the betting times. And from the stat your betting method, each US dollar is for one odd and that multiply to the next odd. And that becomes the $2=2odds that $1 to 1 odd. Well I will not argue with you because that is how you played your bet and win and I don't think it will also favour another person.

And I don't think using not to gamble for you is good because the day the bot will fall you, you will loss everything you have. Mostly the $10,000 to bet $10,000 is a give odd but if you loss that game, my brother you might hug transformer oh. So always gamble what you can loss. And it will not pain you.

A bot will just follow what it is programmed with. If the strategy itself is faulty then qhat should we expect with the outcome? A good betting bot won’t fail following your demands as long as it is fixed or stable. No gambler would do something which would create a bigger risk on their funds, out of their betting tolerance. So if this works for OP maybe he has a lrge betting pool and hopefully it would be a good strategy for him in the long run.

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Today is meant for methods of betting. Well let see. I have not seen this method before and I don't think other members have played such method in the betting times. And from the stat your betting method, each US dollar is for one odd and that multiply to the next odd. And that becomes the $2=2odds that $1 to 1 odd. Well I will not argue with you because that is how you played your bet and win and I don't think it will also favour another person.

And I don't think using not to gamble for you is good because the day the bot will fall you, you will loss everything you have. Mostly the $10,000 to bet $10,000 is a give odd but if you loss that game, my brother you might hug transformer oh. So always gamble what you can loss. And it will not pain you.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I think this is some variation of a martingale strategy because there is progression. The only difference of it is that the multiplier is also progressing but on a normal martingale, usually, it was only the bet is progressing but it can be stopped once a certain win is achieved and the base bet will return to normal again.

It seems you are serious about your project here because you said you hire a developer to create a bot for you but there are already existing bots out there like Mydicebot and Seunjie's Dicebot. You can use them for free or you can also ask someone to create a script for you using the strategy that you formulated there.

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Quote from: decodx on August 05, 2023, 05:51:51 AM

You might have overlooked the fact that with his method, you must also increase the multiplier with each bet. For instance, if you place a $6 bet, you should set a x6 multiplier, which would yield a $36 return if you win. So, the total wager would be $20, resulting in $36 won and a profit of $16.

As I see it, the math checks out, but the strategy still has a flaw when you encounter a long losing streak, which will ultimately deplete your entire balance sooner or later.

Wow, then it's more risky yet. A x6 multiplier consists in 16,5% winning chance at Stake platform. Meaning it's very likely you will reach this loss streak quite often along your gambling session, while it's very unlikely you will hit a winning with such odds in a frequent basis. After all, your loss streak will become a snow ball with slight chances of recory after 7-8 losses in a row. It actually seems more risky than Martingale on short run.

It might not be as risky as Martingale because Martingale strategy tends to empty your bankroll pretty quickly while this strategy will take some time if you have a pretty high bankroll, let's say $10k. And the risk of this strategy is exactly what you've mentioned, after every lost bet, your winning probability will start to decrease, so even if the odds are also increasing, there will be higher chances of hitting a long loss streak because of the house edge.

And, if there can be loss streaks as high as 25 to 30 in using Martingale where the winning probability is almost 50%, what can someone expect from this strategy, but, it might work if you have a very high bankroll and you are starting from a very small amount, but still, there is always the risk of losing everything you have since it's gambling.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

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$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I am not saying this is a bad idea, as it's a good as idea as any. But it doesn't really differ from martingale as you are betting against house edge. Trying to find a system to beat that is like trying to find a system to break mathematical laws. It's a futile effort. It all comes back to luck, no matter how you look at statistics.

If dice would be beatable don't you think it would be beaten long time ago, most likely with some quantum computer solving the next outcome. Although that's just science fiction too.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 05, 2023, 10:02:54 AM

Well, we've always heard and seen that there isn't a single strategy in gambling that can actually make you win against the house in the long run. For the short term, even martingale strategy might provide you with some profits and prevent you from losses, but as time goes on and your wagers start to build up, you will eventually get a loss streak that will empty your bankroll and you will be left with nothing at all and then you will realize it's gambling and it's never a way to get constant profit.

I know that it would take more time and it might have a better success rate than Martingale since you are not doubling the amount after every lost bet but only adding 1x, since the odds are also increasing by 1x every time, it's possible to hit a higher loss streak with this strategy than Martingale.

Increasing the bet amount along with the multiplier can also drain your wallet faster than the usual.
Strategies like this are more prone to becoming greedy as you increase your bet over time. Yes, there’s no single strategy that can beat the house aside from winning and leave the house. This is gambling, we know gambler eagerly wants to create a strategy than can somehow beat the house, unfortunately until now we are still fully dependent with our luck.

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Quote from: Chikito on August 05, 2023, 12:40:52 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

Yes, I ever tried on freebitco. I just claim free satoshi and bet it like your example. But, playing like this is not long, I always lost after. We must have a target to manage to stop. without any targets when to stop, you will back to zero. Everyone has their own method to play comfortably. but the player must have adjust to circumstances and mood. we don't have play like that on every game. because sometime is not suitable with calculate and condition

Yeah a series of losing streak with this kind of method can easily sweep our balance away. This method requires a fund several times much bigger than the usual martingale if we wanted to play a little longer. With the increasing amount of wagering and the multiplier, if we are hit by bad luck our fund might not last for at least a minute or two. Aside from that with this kind of strategy we should be keen in observing when to reset our bet in order to not experience a continuous exponential lose from the series of red streak.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 05, 2023, 10:02:54 AM

Well, we've always heard and seen that there isn't a single strategy in gambling that can actually make you win against the house in the long run. For the short term, even martingale strategy might provide you with some profits and prevent you from losses, but as time goes on and your wagers start to build up, you will eventually get a loss streak that will empty your bankroll and you will be left with nothing at all and then you will realize it's gambling and it's never a way to get constant profit.

I know that it would take more time and it might have a better success rate than Martingale since you are not doubling the amount after every lost bet but only adding 1x, since the odds are also increasing by 1x every time, it's possible to hit a higher loss streak with this strategy than Martingale.

Yes that's right, I've also revamped a lot of strategies like martingale but nothing really works, I also thought I'd like to see the results the OP got like screenshots to share here how can he be sure that the strategy will work, so far a lot of strategy works what I made in the end is still the same, the system will read it then I lose.

Since then I have been more inclined to play in the casino just for fun, no matter how you win, just enjoy the game, winning is a bonus, if you lose, let's say I pay to enjoy the game, so there is no feeling of losing, gambling depends on how we set the pattern. he thought, always remembering that the house can never lose with any strategy and it is not easy to win big against them. just that Wink

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Well, we've always heard and seen that there isn't a single strategy in gambling that can actually make you win against the house in the long run. For the short term, even martingale strategy might provide you with some profits and prevent you from losses, but as time goes on and your wagers start to build up, you will eventually get a loss streak that will empty your bankroll and you will be left with nothing at all and then you will realize it's gambling and it's never a way to get constant profit.

I know that it would take more time and it might have a better success rate than Martingale since you are not doubling the amount after every lost bet but only adding 1x, since the odds are also increasing by 1x every time, it's possible to hit a higher loss streak with this strategy than Martingale.

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Quote from: decodx on August 05, 2023, 05:51:51 AM

Quote from: uneng on August 04, 2023, 04:47:55 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 04, 2023, 01:09:47 PM

That's why is an enormous difference between my method and martingale, they are totally different in the long run. And even if its a variance of Martingale, I feel this method deserve it's own name.

They have their differences, but on long run I don't think the result will be different... On both methods if you hit a long loss streak you are doomed and won't be able to continue playing, what inevitably happens sooner or later.

With your method, let's say I bet 2$, 3$, 4$, 5$ and lose all bets. Then I already have a 14$ loss. Next, I place a 6$ bet and 12$ return to the bankroll. It doesn't worth, because you put 20$ on the table to profit 6$ in the end. Then besides playing against the house, you are also struggling against your own strategy on long term. It may be good on short loss streaks, but not on the longer ones above 5 losses in a row, which are quite common.

You might have overlooked the fact that with his method, you must also increase the multiplier with each bet. For instance, if you place a $6 bet, you should set a x6 multiplier, which would yield a $36 return if you win. So, the total wager would be $20, resulting in $36 won and a profit of $16.

As I see it, the math checks out, but the strategy still has a flaw when you encounter a long losing streak, which will ultimately deplete your entire balance sooner or later.

Wow, then it's more risky yet. A x6 multiplier consists in 16,5% winning chance at Stake platform. Meaning it's very likely you will reach this loss streak quite often along your gambling session, while it's very unlikely you will hit a winning with such odds in a frequent basis. After all, your loss streak will become a snow ball with slight chances of recory after 7-8 losses in a row. It actually seems more risky than Martingale on short run.

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Quote from: uneng on August 04, 2023, 04:47:55 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 04, 2023, 01:09:47 PM

That's why is an enormous difference between my method and martingale, they are totally different in the long run. And even if its a variance of Martingale, I feel this method deserve it's own name.

They have their differences, but on long run I don't think the result will be different... On both methods if you hit a long loss streak you are doomed and won't be able to continue playing, what inevitably happens sooner or later.

With your method, let's say I bet 2$, 3$, 4$, 5$ and lose all bets. Then I already have a 14$ loss. Next, I place a 6$ bet and 12$ return to the bankroll. It doesn't worth, because you put 20$ on the table to profit 6$ in the end. Then besides playing against the house, you are also struggling against your own strategy on long term. It may be good on short loss streaks, but not on the longer ones above 5 losses in a row, which are quite common.

You might have overlooked the fact that with his method, you must also increase the multiplier with each bet. For instance, if you place a $6 bet, you should set a x6 multiplier, which would yield a $36 return if you win. So, the total wager would be $20, resulting in $36 won and a profit of $16.

As I see it, the math checks out, but the strategy still has a flaw when you encounter a long losing streak, which will ultimately deplete your entire balance sooner or later.

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Quote from: FatFork on August 04, 2023, 01:44:44 PM

Yes, but with your method, if you start with a $2 bet, by the 100th bet, you will already be wagering over $5000. So, either you have to have a significant amount in your account, or you have to start with a very low initial bet. Basically the same as the martingale strategy.

Always stepping up my strategy, no time to relent towards it or form a copy method from my colleagues. $2 is insufficient, but depending on the odds, you will reap precisely what you sow. The system cannot be manipulated. Wagering games with a lesser initial capital will inevitably result in losses and little gains when contrasted to the massive capital that will result in tremendous earnings. Doing what works for you, even if it means going it alone, as long as it generates profits. It's a long road ahead, but prepared for what ever comes our way.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

Yes, I ever tried on freebitco. I just claim free satoshi and bet it like your example. But, playing like this is not long, I always lost after. We must have a target to manage to stop. without any targets when to stop, you will back to zero. Everyone has their own method to play comfortably. but the player must have adjust to circumstances and mood. we don't have play like that on every game. because sometime is not suitable with calculate and condition

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I'm sorry for my ignorance, I don't play casino games that depend on luck, I prefer sports betting. but from what I'm reading the casinos also put limits on the amount of money people can bet on, especially when they realize that a person is having a lot of wins, so I suppose if you keep doing things like putting in 2$, losing, then putting 4$ then lose, then put 6$ lose, then put 6$ then lose, then put 32$ lose again, and then put 64$ and lose again, when you put 128$ the casino might not accept it and in that case if you were put a value lower than 128$ something like put back 64$ and you won then you would not make a profit

You wouldn't have recouped your loss either, so how do you intend to deal with the betting limits that casinos place? It seems to me that your strategy even when you make a profit is very low unless the person puts a lot of money, in which case when you put a lot of money initially and go on doubling the bet, you will reach the bet limit that the casino places and after that you won't have a way to bet so that you can at least recover your loss, I hope I'm wrong in my thinking or analysis

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Thats a novel approach to gambling. You begin with two satoshis and increase by one with each iteration, right? Im so, very sorry! Put aside all comparisons. In any case, I think you understand.

Then its a machine carrying out your instructions. Cool! You may kick back with a drink while the bot makes your wagers. Please update me on how the robot is doing. Is your Bitcoin fortune now in the millions? Perhaps a millionaire could be of assistance.

As an aside, have you tried it? Nope. But I find it fascinating. I've never been treated like this before. It certainly grabs attention, but I cant say for sure that its fantastic.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 04, 2023, 01:09:47 PM

That's why is an enormous difference between my method and martingale, they are totally different in the long run. And even if its a variance of Martingale, I feel this method deserve it's own name.

They have their differences, but on long run I don't think the result will be different... On both methods if you hit a long loss streak you are doomed and won't be able to continue playing, what inevitably happens sooner or later.

With your method, let's say I bet 2$, 3$, 4$, 5$ and lose all bets. Then I already have a 14$ loss. Next, I place a 6$ bet and 12$ return to the bankroll. It doesn't worth, because you put 20$ on the table to profit 6$ in the end. Then besides playing against the house, you are also struggling against your own strategy on long term. It may be good on short loss streaks, but not on the longer ones above 5 losses in a row, which are quite common.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

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Every "method" has its flaws there is no full proof way to consistently beat the casinos or it would be replicated by everyone and eventually there wouldn't be any casinos. Gamble for fun if you win great if you lose oh well have fun doing it. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't I'd like to see some data behind all of your bet results to see how much if any you swing the odds into your favor.

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Quote from: len01 on August 04, 2023, 12:57:12 AM

initially looked at this thread like something new but it turns out to be like a little martingale method and Im not going to try it just to test the game or luck in any case. I mean the martingale strategy, even if its in small amounts, it won't work because everyone will end up losing and draining the balance, especially in dice games. I often play dice when slot games seem to be away from me but its all the same I will never win using any strategy.
but to be honest I appreciate the OP effort in sharing the experience with the new mode from martingale maybe if only to just test everything is fine but will fail in the end.

The method for the game which doesn't match all the game.The strategy of one gambler may or mayn't apply to other gambler.Dice game is the game had the capable to make a man rich or drain the entire money and make him poorest person.Both the capacity was hold by the dice game,but most of the people favorite game will be dice.Even my favorite game was dice as compared to the other game.The reason behind my wish is,we can get to the know the result of the dice game in short run as compared t other game.Their is no strategy work for the gambling,only can play with the probability.

This strategy is like martigale method. It's too risky especially if you would set specific amount. Yes, it could be profitable in the beginning but it wouldn't be that successful in the long run. It could be profitable but could also be a reason for you to lose everything you have in an instance.
This method will only be good to those who are willing to take huge risks but not to those who want to control and limit their gambling expences and activities so we bettwr be wise if ever we want to try this strategy.

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Quote from: letteredhub on August 04, 2023, 01:00:35 PM

I wonder how profitable anyone can be using this method of yours.
This betting method of yours is very risky and doubt if there's any good chance of getting a win out of it. With each bet comes a higher amount with an increasing risk. And when the risk in our bets is very high it's easy to lose it. Why not make it the other way round as with each bet going forward you lower the risk while you make higher the bet amount, the chance of winning in this way is much better

The strategy is just a way to lose. It is the worst strategy that I can can think of. To be increasing your betting amount with higher odd. He also supposed to compare games too.

IfI am gambling in casino, I go for just 3 odds to be the highest and I do not go more than that.

In football or sport, to even see 2 odds is very hard. The good clubs are given small odds and this makes what he said not to be real.

In casinos, somethings I can use martingale strategy, but which is very risky too. I still prefer it to this one which is more risky. With martingale strategy, you do not need to increase the odds that you are using to bet, it can be 3 odds and it should not be more than that and going higher from a little betting amount. I can do this up to 3 times and the final result will be the last one that I will gamble that day because it is a very simple means to lose money significantly also if your plan fails after you have played like 3 to 5 times.

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Quote from: len01 on August 04, 2023, 12:57:12 AM

initially looked at this thread like something new but it turns out to be like a little martingale method and Im not going to try it just to test the game or luck in any case. I mean the martingale strategy, even if its in small amounts, it won't work because everyone will end up losing and draining the balance, especially in dice games. I often play dice when slot games seem to be away from me but its all the same I will never win using any strategy.
but to be honest I appreciate the OP effort in sharing the experience with the new mode from martingale maybe if only to just test everything is fine but will fail in the end.

The method for the game which doesn't match all the game.The strategy of one gambler may or mayn't apply to other gambler.Dice game is the game had the capable to make a man rich or drain the entire money and make him poorest person.Both the capacity was hold by the dice game,but most of the people favorite game will be dice.Even my favorite game was dice as compared to the other game.The reason behind my wish is,we can get to the know the result of the dice game in short run as compared t other game.Their is no strategy work for the gambling,only can play with the probability.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 04, 2023, 01:09:47 PM

My method: At the end of the run you double up the total betting amount, let's say you bet a total of $50 in 100 bets and win in the last one, you get back $100.

That's why is an enormous difference between my method and martingale, they are totally different in the long run. And even if its a variance of Martingale, I feel this method deserve it's own name.

Yes, but with your method, if you start with a $2 bet, by the 100th bet, you will already be wagering over $5000. So, either you have to have a significant amount in your account, or you have to start with a very low initial bet. Basically the same as the martingale strategy.

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Let me explain the difference between martingale and my method:

Martingale: at the end of the run, your profit equals the initial bet. For example:

$2 on x2 - lose
$4 on x2 - lose
$8 on x2 - lose
$16 on x2 - win

Profit=$2

My method: At the end of the run you double up the total betting amount, let's say you bet a total of $50 in 100 bets and win in the last one, you get back $100.

That's why is an enormous difference between my method and martingale, they are totally different in the long run. And even if its a variance of Martingale, I feel this method deserve it's own name.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I wonder how profitable anyone can be using this method of yours.
This betting method of yours is very risky and doubt if there's any good chance of getting a win out of it. With each bet comes a higher amount with an increasing risk. And when the risk in our bets is very high it's easy to lose it. Why not make it the other way round as with each bet going forward you lower the risk while you make higher the bet amount, the chance of winning in this way is much better

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 03, 2023, 10:54:40 PM

It's always this that's the more interesting part in a gambling game that you know very well is tilted toward the house. Exploring and experimenting different strategies are the fun side in dice games. It's always fun trying to beat the house. At the end of the day, however, we know very well that strategies can't defeat the house edge. It will always prevail in the end. It's math.

As to your strategy, it's my understanding that the lower the winning probability is, the bigger the bet. Will this not bankrupt your bankroll faster?

I think yes it will make his bankroll faster, for me yes this one could help but not all the time. Martingale is quite useful yes and we can't deny the fact that many people are using that strategy and getting a success. But we cannot use that all the time, not all the time he will win and the thing is he needs a larger amount of money to do that strategy it is possible but more risky.

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It really is a martingale. But this is gambling, whichever method is working for you and is effective then keep on playing with that. Maybe this time it works but who knows what will happen next if it will still. I'm interested to know on how many satoshis you'll be able to reach with this method and how huge/low your losses will be and the same goes for the potential profit that you'll do. Well, with methods like this. I just prefer to do my own method of just setting an amount for this day, win or lose and if it's all gone I'm done.

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Your method may be a successful thesis that works, but because you are sharing it in a public setting, casinos may create antitheses against it. I don't play casino games much, so I don't fully understand your method, but we should think carefully before we share our tactics in public. I like to bet on sporting events more because I get more enjoyment from watching them and I feel that I am betting on a predictable event. I prefer casino games to relax my mind and pass some time.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

This is called the Martingale System. I have personally used it before in simple (3-optioned) roulettes. Sometimes I break even, sometimes I lose even more. Based on my experience, it is not a reliable strategy.

I agree that achieving a 100% win rate in the Martingale system is only possible if you have an infinite bankroll, which is highly unlikely.

Check these studies out:

- "The Martingale System: A Mathematical Analysis" by David S. Clark (1975)
- "The Martingale: A Losing Proposition" by John Haigh (1995)
- "The Martingale System: A Theoretical and Empirical Analysis" by Richard J. Smith and Mark S. Thomas (2005)
- "The Martingale System: A Review of the Literature" by James H. Weaver (2012)

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I am late to reply my own opinion. This is my own opinion:

You mean as the odd is increasing, the betting amount should also be increasing. This seems more of a novice and it will not end well at all. It would only lead to money loss and the betting strategy possible profit or loss is not planned at all.

If you have not gotten any bot for this, just do not waste your money.

As you increase the betting odd, so does the amount you stake should reduce, it should not be the other way.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 04, 2023, 01:58:30 AM

I have never tried it yet, I always just rely on the RTP, with the same bet, and let my seed do the magic. Yesterday, I won something that I did not expect. x2000. It shocked me so much that I want to see it again. So, I used that funds again and see where it will go. Right now, I already won x300 and x200 so I think it's still doing pretty well.

My only strategy is to try and hit the jackpot because I have done the increasing bet type of strategy before and it always just let me down in the end. So, I will just let luck decide while I will always have enough funds for 2000 bets because I think that's the amount needed before hitting a good amount of multiplier.

Well it seems that I have something in common with you in terms of doing so, I myself do not want to bother and in choosing the best game I will only go to see the percentage of the RTP of each game, this is like guessing but indeed so far the results are quite good by relying on RTP and recently I have also gotten a win that can at least be used to buy something. That's very surprising, it seems like you're in a lucky position recently so you can get a big win like that. To be honest I myself have never thought about what strategy I should do to get a big win, I will just do it without anything pressing my mind to think, one of them with a strategy. Even I also never thought that we could use strategy in gambling, it's just luck and there is nothing that can provoke the victory to come.

Gambling is just for fun so let's just enjoy it based on luck.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I need a bit more understanding on this one as i don't see it as a simple and working method.

First, you need to bet on the odds of X2. The odds for the teams similar in performances are less than 2. And other odds may exceed 2 or even more but it is highly we win those odds because the team whom the gambling sites give 2.0+ odds is an underdog or less strong team and weak teams do not often win.

Secondly, we will increase the bet to +1 on every bet, no matter if the result of the previous bet is a loss or win Huh

What if you keep on winning the bets and once you reach a stage where you have bet increased to +50 or +100 and you lose that bet?

How can you be profitable in that scenario?

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more or less it's just another random betting method. But I see in any case the disadvantage of high odds with high stakes.
As example, 100$ x x100 = you need to play around 100 times to hit such odds.
You are going to play 10K USD on this kind of bet as a minimum?
Well, if you don't have a sort of "cap" on the max amount/max odds to be wagered, it can be a disaster...

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

If i understand correctly, this looks like another version of the popular martingale strategy, though this seems a bit sophisticated to understand straight away, as appealing as this looks, I don't think you are guaranteed a sustained winning run all through, in-fact, as you are betting on increased odds, so is your chances of losing a bet continues to increase, and i bet you will lost much more than just one game before you ever get close to betting with 0.001 bitcoin if like you stated, started the betting with just 2 satoshis.

Anyways, i feel like i should try some thing like this, but i wont, i honestly do not see it as feasible, even with the assistance of bot, there is no betting bot anywhere in the world that has a 100 win ratio, they will fail to predict several matches correctly.

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I have never tried it yet, I always just rely on the RTP, with the same bet, and let my seed do the magic. Yesterday, I won something that I did not expect. x2000. It shocked me so much that I want to see it again. So, I used that funds again and see where it will go. Right now, I already won x300 and x200 so I think it's still doing pretty well.

My only strategy is to try and hit the jackpot because I have done the increasing bet type of strategy before and it always just let me down in the end. So, I will just let luck decide while I will always have enough funds for 2000 bets because I think that's the amount needed before hitting a good amount of multiplier.

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initially looked at this thread like something new but it turns out to be like a little martingale method and Im not going to try it just to test the game or luck in any case. I mean the martingale strategy, even if its in small amounts, it won't work because everyone will end up losing and draining the balance, especially in dice games. I often play dice when slot games seem to be away from me but its all the same I will never win using any strategy.
but to be honest I appreciate the OP effort in sharing the experience with the new mode from martingale maybe if only to just test everything is fine but will fail in the end.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on August 03, 2023, 11:30:07 PM

Quote from: Porfirii on August 03, 2023, 02:40:05 PM

I'm confused.

On one hand, I'm a strong believer that, in the long term, the casino always wins; so, to me, setting sophisticated strategies in order to improve the odds to win and not just to have fun testing numbers is a waste of time and money.

Just keep believing that.

Quote from: Porfirii on August 03, 2023, 02:40:05 PM

But I don't know whether I've completely understood your system: it seems like a variant of the martingale many other members named before, but are we missing something?

It seems to me that my colleague seoincorporation has already talked about bets of this kind on our local board. I think that this way you can reach a high volume of bets, but you won't be able to beat the house in the long run. The more you bet, the more inevitable the net loss will be.

Thank you Mr. Peter, I feel reassured by your answer as I know you always post judiciously. Let's take this thread as what it is: the testimony of a colleague who is testing his own particular methods in a game, just for fun.

It is true that, although the chances are the same (or less, because, as you said, with a higher number of bets the effect of chance is reduced), very cheap cryptos let you play in a way that, if done with dollar cents, would be a ruin.

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Quote from: Porfirii on August 03, 2023, 02:40:05 PM

I'm confused.

On one hand, I'm a strong believer that, in the long term, the casino always wins; so, to me, setting sophisticated strategies in order to improve the odds to win and not just to have fun testing numbers is a waste of time and money.

Just keep believing that.

Quote from: Porfirii on August 03, 2023, 02:40:05 PM

But I don't know whether I've completely understood your system: it seems like a variant of the martingale many other members named before, but are we missing something?

It seems to me that my colleague seoincorporation has already talked about bets of this kind on our local board. I think that this way you can reach a high volume of bets, but you won't be able to beat the house in the long run. The more you bet, the more inevitable the net loss will be.

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Quote from: harizen on August 03, 2023, 06:28:03 PM

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It's called momentum strategy, the same as martingale-on-lose but the different we are doing it on the winning section.

In martingale on losing we keep double (1,5-2,5x) from the previous bet until we are winning, but on momentum strategy we do this on winning (that's means, need a hot run section). These strategies are more volatile + drain a lot money, but if you got a good section you will be rain gold in short time.

I doing these also using all-in betting like getting a bonus 15-20$ and all-in 3x (same as momentum strategy) I need to streak win (3x) and stop. Some of them doing it for 3-4x streak win, and then at that balance they stop increase just waiting the bet losing.

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It's always this that's the more interesting part in a gambling game that you know very well is tilted toward the house. Exploring and experimenting different strategies are the fun side in dice games. It's always fun trying to beat the house. At the end of the day, however, we know very well that strategies can't defeat the house edge. It will always prevail in the end. It's math.

As to your strategy, it's my understanding that the lower the winning probability is, the bigger the bet. Will this not bankrupt your bankroll faster?

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I like the idea if this is a method you are developing for entertainment and thill-seeking purposes, I assume you like it because you can actually see how the risk increases in front of your eyes as time passes by.

Also, if you want a small recommendation, I would also include a calculator within the bot so it can tell you how far it can go if all your bets end up being losses (no wins). That number would be the minimum amount of bets you can get with a fixed amount of Satoshis.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Is this the so-called "advanced martingale" or another variation? Is the method a product of your own imagination or already saw that done by others?

Regardless of your winning rate, still, we can't hide the fact that all your bets are under the provably fair of the gambling site. I know you already did several tests and fortunately (or should I say luckily) you are having a good run there.

Hands-up. We all know that everything in dice is luck-based.

If your method is doing good for you, then I hope it can give you more winnings in the long run.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

In short, something important is being forgotten: the "ballast" of the liability of each bet and the decrease in the probability of winning by increasing/changing the multiplier. That is to say, in betting round #3 the bet is not $4, you must take into account $2+$3 and to that you must understand that increasing the multiplier decreases your chances, and that randomness can sink you into a round of betting where that multiplier does not appear.

In his case, he has the perfect "paradox", he is not only going to win, but he also obtains a higher profit, a man who invented the wheel for casinos.
And you don't see the negative results because the amounts are small or you haven't had a long loss line. Changing the multiplier affects the probability, consequently I would have to use stop lose for the amount in which it is not fulfilled.

For those who say; this (OP) is martingale, no it's not:
#1 bet $2 win 2x=>4 so 4-2=2
If not successful:
#2 bet $4 win 2x=>8 so 8-(4+2)=2
If they don't succeed;
#3 bet $8 win 2x=> so 16-(8+4+2)=2
Your profit will always be 2. Or the initial bet.

The OP thing is the paradox of "El Colega," please, man if it works, we reinvent the game. I say if Martingale is TNT for your bankroll, that technique shown is "Oppenheimer"

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So basically martingale strategy. This is nothing new and there are caveats to betting strategies like these. One of which is the fact that you should have deep pockets before even thinking of doing this cause there's no way you're winning anything in your first few rolls, and if you do it's nothing substantial. Another would be the fact that you're going to lose more than you win, and the only goal of Martingale is to make sure that you have a little over what you started with to count as a profit and to make sure your bankroll is up and running. I say you go for it if you think it works for you, cause at the end of the day it's a strategy that works in the long run provided that you have the capacity for it, but if you don't then I suggest you look into other forms of betting strat.

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I'm confused.

On one hand, I'm a strong believer that, in the long term, the casino always wins; so, to me, setting sophisticated strategies in order to improve the odds to win and not just to have fun testing numbers is a waste of time and money. But I don't know whether I've completely understood your system: it seems like a variant of the martingale many other members named before, but are we missing something?

On the other hand, I don't think that betting with such small decimals makes any difference: it only allows you to make a huge number of bets, but again, with more bets smaller chances to win IMO.

Please, let me know if I'm missing something: I'm not an expert in maths so I must stay humble, but your system (any system) goes against my understanding of how odds work.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

Don't take me wrong, but this is one of the worst strategies that someone can try. This type of strategies are for the games that support 10000x multipliers and one of such games that I know is Crash. When someone uses such strategy on games like crash then the chances of getting higher multiplier is very low for such players.

I know that the strategy may work for those who are extremely lucky, but for those with low levels of luck the strategy will never work at all. I have seen many players following a similar strategy on Crash and they have lost so many bets due to such strategy.

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Quote from: Poker Player on August 02, 2023, 11:04:32 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

It sounds to me like a variant of the Martingale, but more sophisticated.

Is really? Just usual Martingale. Martingale shouldn’t be always an x2 system.

I used this approach in Forex trading 15 years ago. I don’t remember, maybe I found it quite sophisticated at that time. But, actually, it is not more sophisticated than to double a bet amount after each round.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

I did tried this method, it was great in the beginning and I am loving it so much until it starts painting red. It more easier to deplete our bankroll this way. This is like modified martingale in a more aggressive method. So if we believe and think that martingale is not a good strategy then anything about this strategy is the same except this method depletes our bankroll more easily. Though, if this works in your favor then I am happy for you

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That's just martingale on winning.

It's to optimize the money you are winning (in hot ron, you are gonna win a lot), less advantage of these methods are your money will be drained faster. You need to avoid (win, lose, win lose) or (losing streak).

It's called, momentum strategy[/b (you raised the bet 1,5/2x from the last winning until you facing a lose) then will back to original bet.

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I also fear the amount of money that it will require. Even though it is in the increment of one Satoshi for every bet it doesn’t guarantee you winning streak along the way. At any point House edge algorithm is going to take the effect and thus making you lose the previous bets or upcoming bets if you have won fairly enough money and played the users edge.

After that, if you need to learn about this or take a trial then you can do the same on any multiplier game. For example try it manually or auto on the freebitcoin. You will see it doesn’t work the way you are imagining it here.

I mean we already have the auto roller on that website and we already know the result. I am not sure what is new in yours?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 03, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

So far my biggest losing streak was 100,000 bets, and my biggest multi was x9900, But I'm running with that limit, I should make the bet lower and run for a x990,000 just for testing. But that amount of bets takes hours.

I don't get it. Losing 100,000 bets in a row is possible only if the odds are extremely high. What were the odds in this case?

Quote from: bittraffic on August 03, 2023, 01:23:36 PM

Will the bot follow patterns? I have only experienced auto bet and it's not a good experience. I'm guess they both work the same and the only way to stop it is to do it manually.

There are no patterns in gambling frankly speaking. People tend to believe that they exist because of some repititive bets, but such stuff is very common. All bets are independent of each other in provably fair games.

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The martingale looks better than that strategy the only thing you need to follow is the discipline to stop while you're winning in a dice. You will have winning and losing streaks, you might not be able to stop the betting when you use the bots.

Will the bot follow patterns? I have only experienced auto bet and it's not a good experience. I'm guess they both work the same and the only way to stop it is to do it manually.

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Quote from: davis196 on August 03, 2023, 01:52:08 AM

Basically you are one of the gamblers, who think that they could outsmart the casinos by "inventing" some "genius" betting strategy that was never seen before. Grin

In most cases, those "genius" betting strategies are just a variation of martingale.
The bad news is nobody can outsmart the casinos. The "betting strategy" doesn't matter. The casino always wins. Stop trying to make consistent profits out of gambling and just play for fun. Good luck with all those betting bots, that are running on virtual private servers.
I hope that you will make enough money to retire and go the Bahamas. Grin

Lolz. Exactly, the op is trying to outsmart the game, though it is good to invent new strategy in the gambling field and that make it more interesting. And I also believe the op can only use that method in sportsbet because it only in sport you can predict one bet and x it to any number of your choice. Like what op place it, if he wins the first two and loss the last bet the won ones would also cut unless he cashout the previous won and I don't think this method has cashout.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

The strategy is pretty cool, you will start with a little odd and little amount which time you will have to start increasing the amount which you are gambling with and the odd, when you start at the beginning the risk might be pretty low, but when you keep on increasing the odd and the amount you are gambling with, then the risk will start increasing, because the higher your odd, the higher the risk with you will be taking, so how sure are you that you won’t end up losing money after getting to the higher odds?

You might be using a bot and it might be working pretty well for you, but hope you know a bot can fail you at any moment which at the end you might end up losing everything you have being accumulating. But if you think it’s a perfect strategy, then you can give it a trial and see.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I do not fully understand this method you described above. This like compounding bet where you re-bet your winning but the difference in yours is that you re-bet your capital and another money to it for the increment. This is not making so much sense to me and I will not follow such steps because once the disaster comes, the effect will be so severe on the victim to.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on August 03, 2023, 09:29:49 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

It seems to be working for you and the game you gamble on, but it is not an applicable method to everyone on the games they gamble. Plus your strategy requires a lot of discipline to stick to a betting amount, many gamblers are not disciplined and may not like to follow a strategy book when gambling, it takes the fun away and still does not give any assurance that you will win, so at the end after following up a strategy, you will be surprised that you did not have fun and you did not still win at same time, double loss.

Well that's what I have in mind when I think of betting strategies, not that I don't want to win the bet, it's just that it will make the fun in the game a little less for me. Because in each round I am forced to think if I use a strategy, and like you I will bet according to my wishes at that time. It can be said that when I feel good then I will increase the amount of the bet and vice versa, yes even though I still lose more. Lol
Maybe there is something different if we compare it with others, but I am very happy and enjoy the game.

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Quote from: iv4n on August 03, 2023, 12:59:31 AM

So JustDice has some expert settings? I get that you increase the bet with 000001 after every loss, but what about the multiplier? How did you set it up?

The site doesn't have a betting bot by itself, but they allow us to use javascript bots in the browser console, that's how I do it.

Quote from: m2017 on August 03, 2023, 01:00:36 AM

Aren't bets in a casino using bots (any game process automation systems) prohibited? Are you not afraid that your account will be banned, lose your deposit and possibly be blacklisted with the inability to play in this (and possibly other) casino?

This casino allows bots and multi accounts, I have talk with them before running the bots and they agreed. So, we don't have to worry about this because we are not braking the rules.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on August 03, 2023, 02:56:23 AM

What's your biggest red streak thus far and highest multi you have hit? You've only tried this on just dice? I would be curious to know if different sites have different results, maybe try 1 of the other dice sites and update us.

If we wanted to try this ourselves we would have to code a bot or find 1 like suentjie correct? None of the sites that i know of have a way to set up their site bot like this.

So far my biggest losing streak was 100,000 bets, and my biggest multi was x9900, But I'm running with that limit, I should make the bet lower and run for a x990,000 just for testing. But that amount of bets takes hours.

Quote from: boltz on August 03, 2023, 05:39:06 AM

This method is already bad from start as you decrease your chances to win by each bet you place during that betting run.

I do not agree, that we decrease our chance to win because as I mentioned before, the odds to hit a x500 is close to 1/500 bets. So, the odds to hit are the same.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

So no matter you win or lose the bet you still increase the bet by 1 is it ?
I think the amount you lose will keep increasing using this strategy.
Once the losing streak starts the bet amount will keep increasing thus losing more money.
Besides that, since the odds are increase the probability of losing streak will become higher with every bet.
But it's not bad to try out different strategies and so keep us posted with the results.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 07:58:54 PM

Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 06:50:13 PM

On each bet, you are increasing the betting amount and at the same time, you are increasing your odds for which there is an increasing losing chance on the bet. And in this way, there is a low chance to e a winner as on each bet you are increasing the odds. As a result, the possible loss is higher than being the winner.

The odds is a nice topic to talk about, what are the odds to hit an x10? 1/10, what are the odds to hit an x100? 1/100... so, when you are chasing an x540 you have done x539 bets, so, feels like we are moving with the odds, in other words, while lowering the chance to win then more bets on the line.

I was confused on reading the OP but good to see this statement of yours for the confirmation before I post here. The strategy is interesting and very greed at the same time. High risk high reward method but with gradual increase is what makes this method interesting to me. This is a good method if there’s a script that we can use on a casino since dice auto mode has limited function which doesn’t have the increased of win chance rate on next bet.

I remember that you created other experiments like this before so I knew that you already tested this before you post. How many total bets you have and what’s the profit ratio in terms of your total bets?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

It seems to be working for you and the game you gamble on, but it is not an applicable method to everyone on the games they gamble. Plus your strategy requires a lot of discipline to stick to a betting amount, many gamblers are not disciplined and may not like to follow a strategy book when gambling, it takes the fun away and still does not give any assurance that you will win, so at the end after following up a strategy, you will be surprised that you did not have fun and you did not still win at same time, double loss.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

It can be a good strategy Because we should bet small amount at the starting time. and we should gamble long time with small amount to understand gambling pattern then we should use some extra money. Gambling with a low fund limit will not result in a huge loss. And they may be recoverable at some point. But if you start gambling with a big amount in the beginning, you will lose a lot of amount, then if you panic, there will be a risk of losing more.

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This method is already bad from start as you decrease your chances to win by each bet you place during that betting run. Sure , you can have a strain of luck and you will hit 4 consecutive wins but the chances for this to actually happen is pretty low , especially now when bookies are involved in almost every sport and sponsor teams all over the world. Pretty much , stick to simple betting and forget that there is a formula to actually make you a rich from betting. Grin

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From the table, my mind goes to martingale kind of betting and it is not far from it because you are adding up odds and betting stake each following game like you want to make up for the previous game. I think if this strategy goes wrong then it will accumulate alot of losses for you. I have only tested such in soccer game when I expect I'm going to have a win. Martingale is good when in profit.

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It's been a long time since I played Dice, but it looks like this method can be used in the Limbo game because it won't be much different from the game, I haven't tried this betting method, I always change the martingale betting strategy and always lose, but maybe I'd be happy if you share the results of the method this even though I know that it is difficult to beat the bookie.

If this method works and is profitable without losing, obviously the casino will read this and change the existing system, that's why I think you need to try it repeatedly because if you only try it once in a while maybe you are lucky and happen to win so you can't be sure that this method is correct really works fine. I need you to do some more research and share more here. maybe I'll try it in the Limbo game

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

This kind of tactics is called martingale if I'm not mistaken. Is this method effective for you? there's just a little difference and that's adding one to its sum for every loss and when you win, you go back to the beginning of the bet, right?
but I will try to do what you said, because it is actually new in my eyes. But of course when someone testifies that it is effective and casino insiders see it, I am pretty sure that the casino platform will take a step for this matter.

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What's your biggest red streak thus far and highest multi you have hit? You've only tried this on just dice? I would be curious to know if different sites have different results, maybe try 1 of the other dice sites and update us.

If we wanted to try this ourselves we would have to code a bot or find 1 like suentjie correct? None of the sites that i know of have a way to set up their site bot like this.

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I am glad this strategy is working for you but do not feel like you are smarter than any casino because your game can change later on, this strategy brings profit for you more than loss but it can still change to more losses than profit, I have learned the hardest way, when it comes to gambling on any casino with such any strategy it doesn't always work well, at first it will work for a long period of time or short period of time but it won't always be the same there will be a time that it will change totally so always treat the gambling as a gamble it is not something you can rely on because you have a gambling strategy, anything can change at any time.

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This method will fail like all the Martingale methods that failed in the past. The thing is.... the +1 multiplier can quickly add up to a significant loss in a long losing streak. This will wipe out all gains from previous wins that you had with this method.

It is very true, when they say the house always wins, because the math is working against us. I can say from personal experience that I have tried most of the variants of this strategy and I have never succeeded. Tongue

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Basically you are one of the gamblers, who think that they could outsmart the casinos by "inventing" some "genius" betting strategy that was never seen before. Grin

In most cases, those "genius" betting strategies are just a variation of martingale.
The bad news is nobody can outsmart the casinos. The "betting strategy" doesn't matter. The casino always wins. Stop trying to make consistent profits out of gambling and just play for fun. Good luck with all those betting bots, that are running on virtual private servers.
I hope that you will make enough money to retire and go the Bahamas. Grin

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It is just a Martingale with extremely low amount and we already know here by many times that Martingale is destined to fail because of two things we miss: first is the infinite bankroll that we don't have and in computer software controlled games you can have even 100 losing rolls and this would not be surprising and second the casinos already know about Martingale and they have put limits in place to hold people from using this method.

So if you are playing with an extremely low starting bankroll does not mean that until you reach from 2 satoshi to 100.000 satoshi that you will be a winner.

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This isn't something new op. What you mentioned is just a modified version of Martingale which @Poker Player already pointed out. Such a strategy could most probably burn through your funds very, very quickly.

Why? Because it's a negative progression strategy. Loss streaks of 10 or higher are very common at 2x odds.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

Another method to beat the casino? This game is obviously on a foreign field and against a player with a clear advantage.

Aren't bets in a casino using bots (any game process automation systems) prohibited? Are you not afraid that your account will be banned, lose your deposit and possibly be blacklisted with the inability to play in this (and possibly other) casino?

Have you tried this method yourself? What results have you achieved? Win or lose?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 07:58:54 PM

But I would like to focus the conversation in the betting method, now I'm rolling with 50 balance and starting bet is 0.000002 with 000001 increments. it looks something like this:

You have some awesome hits already... I like your "new favorite betting method". I didn't have fun with some expert settings for a while, but this is inspirational, I think I will try it these days.

So JustDice has some expert settings? I get that you increase the bet with 000001 after every loss, but what about the multiplier? How did you set it up?

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Quote from: Poika5 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:19 PM

I'm not sure if you are trolling or not.

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

You don't have an infinite bankroll. Eventually, you will hit a losing streak so large that it bankrupts you.

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$10,000 - x10,000

The casino sets its own betting limits based on its risk profiles. Nobody would take this bet because it could bankrupt a casino.

I’m sure there are casinos that would take that x10,000 bet, but you’re right that there are no for sure gambling methods. The longer you play, the more likely it is that you will go broke. Methods like this seem like they’re great and will always win you money, but when it turns on you it will bankrupt you as stated. There are no free rides.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

It sounds to me like a variant of the Martingale, but more sophisticated.

Quote from: Poika5 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:19 PM

...

You don't have an infinite bankroll. Eventually, you will hit a losing streak so large that it bankrupts you.
...

The casino sets its own betting limits based on its risk profiles. Nobody would take this bet because it could bankrupt a casino.

Precisely the reasons why it is impossible to win in Martingale.

Trying such a strategy temporarily because you want to complete some wagering requirements to level up, reach the VIP level in the room or something, I could understand it, but at the end of the day you are playing an EV-game. You will not be able to beat the HE, no matter what strategy you use.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

This strategy will only lead one to more loss because as the money increases,also the odd increases which gives you lower opportunity of winning the game. Although, I haven't come up with such idea but I think this can only be applied to dice and not sportbet. Especially football because if you try this method on sportbet,it wouldn't work since settling down for 2.0 odds is the best way one can make profit or win the game on football. Have you given it a try and did it work for you ?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

If it works, it's a very profitable betting method, but it's difficult to be able to get multiples like that in betting and of course each betting option has different odds, so bets that we like and understand may not necessarily be able to provide that multiple.
This is a method that is almost the same and is used quite a lot by some of my friends, but I myself don't think about this method because every bet I make depends on the betting option itself.

If you look at it and think about it, it's a method that is quite difficult for most gamblers to understand.
But if you always succeed with this method, you can definitely get big profits with every win.

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 06:50:13 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

On each bet, you are increasing the betting amount and at the same time, you are increasing your odds for which there is an increasing losing chance on the bet. And in this way, there is a low chance to e a winner as on each bet you are increasing the odds. As a result, the possible loss is higher than being the winner.

I don't like playing any other sports apart from soccer and tennis and with what the OP is trying to explain I don't think this strategy is actually going to work for me as I prefer more of parley selection where I would accumulate a total of 2.0 odd with different games of about 3-4 which reduces the risk involved in each game to come successful and of course parley selection deals with all the games to actually turn out correctly because if one goes wrong all is gone.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

You seem to have a lot of experience with odds in dice. I'm not very experienced in dice games, only played occasionally and always lost.
I don't have any special method like you, just a flat bet. the way you do it is like lowering the odds. Is it really like that?

however, I feel my luck on sports betting rather than on dice or slot games

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Quote from: shasan on August 02, 2023, 06:50:13 PM

On each bet, you are increasing the betting amount and at the same time, you are increasing your odds for which there is an increasing losing chance on the bet. And in this way, there is a low chance to e a winner as on each bet you are increasing the odds. As a result, the possible loss is higher than being the winner.

The odds is a nice topic to talk about, what are the odds to hit an x10? 1/10, what are the odds to hit an x100? 1/100... so, when you are chasing an x540 you have done x539 bets, so, feels like we are moving with the odds, in other words, while lowering the chance to win then more bets on the line.

Quote from: Poika5 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:19 PM

I'm not sure if you are trolling or not.

I'm sure I'm not trolling, I'm right now running 3 bots with this method on virtual machines.

Quote from: Poika5 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:19 PM

You don't have an infinite bankroll. Eventually, you will hit a losing streak so large that it bankrupts you.

What if you are using a coin with a low cost, like doge coin, and start with 1000 doges bankroll betting at 0.00000002, I know is not infinite bankroll, but the amount of bets you can do is more than 1 million.

Quote from: Poika5 on August 02, 2023, 07:14:19 PM

The casino sets its own betting limits based on its risk profiles. Nobody would take this bet because it could bankrupt a casino.

I agree with this, I'm not making a massive profit with it, but is a constant win.

Quote from: Cantsay on August 02, 2023, 07:26:11 PM

What game are you playing exactly because according to what you said if I’m to use this strategy of yours I’ll have to use a payout of 2x and that will reduce the odds of me winning to less than 50% which means if I’m to go on with this method I’ll experience more loses than wins.

I'm playing Dice right now, on a casino where the max multiplier is x990,000. is the same casino where I hit x300,000 in the past (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chasing-a-x330000-update-i-hit-it-5406456) And with the current bot I already have some crazy multipliers.

x8048 https://just-dice.com/roll/6110001180
x9900 https://just-dice.com/roll/6109916608
x6700 https://just-dice.com/roll/6109899409

Look at the timestamp and you will see they are fresh.

But I would like to focus the conversation in the betting method, now I'm rolling with 50 balance and starting bet is 0.000002 with 000001 increments. it looks something like this:

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What game are you playing exactly because according to what you said if I’m to use this strategy of yours I’ll have to use a payout of 2x and that will reduce the odds of me winning to less than 50% which means if I’m to go on with this method I’ll experience more loses than wins.

I really haven’t tried it but I feel if this should be tried on games like crash and dice then they’ll be a massive loss on your path, but I’ll give it a try with my JB on bc.games and see how it goes if it’s profitable I might return back to this thread with an update but until I will wait to see the replies of those that have tried similar strategies.

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I'm not sure if you are trolling or not.

Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

You don't have an infinite bankroll. Eventually, you will hit a losing streak so large that it bankrupts you.

Quote

$10,000 - x10,000

The casino sets its own betting limits based on its risk profiles. Nobody would take this bet because it could bankrupt a casino.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on August 02, 2023, 06:39:28 PM

The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

On each bet, you are increasing the betting amount and at the same time, you are increasing your odds for which there is an increasing losing chance on the bet. And in this way, there is a low chance to e a winner as on each bet you are increasing the odds. As a result, the possible loss is higher than being the winner.

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The logic behind this betting method isn't complex at all. You bet $2 on x2 and on the next bet you sum +1 to the bet amount and it looks something like this:

Code:

$2 - x2
$3 - x3
$4 - x4
$5 - x5
...
$10,000 - x10,000

I know, in the example looks like a lot of money to bet, but now think about starting from 0.00000002 BTC or better known as 2 satoshis, with increments of 1 satoshi, you can be betting in the long run with 0.001 btc.

To do this I hire a guy to make a betting bot for a casino, and is looking good, is really hard to find a losing run with it.

So, what do you think about this betting method, Has someone tried it in the past?

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