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February 06, 2018, 06:17:43 AM
#49


(120mhash 8x 1050ti) vol 30 liters ~30x25x40cm
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January 26, 2018, 02:07:11 PM
#48
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It looks amazing! Where did you get the materials with those dimensions?
Thanks!

what do you mean?

case is made from 6x  solid square profile 10x10mm

cut and drilled on lathe for the same lenght

+ cnc milled 3mm dibond panels but new batch will have aluminium 2mm panels lasercut
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January 20, 2018, 12:15:22 AM
#47
It looks amazing! Where did you get the materials with those dimensions?
Thanks!
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January 19, 2018, 11:53:56 PM
#46
LQ pics

in next two weeks I will get new full ALU batch Wink





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December 15, 2017, 04:22:01 PM
#45
Nice refined design. Will you consider selling these anytime soon?
If so, I'm interested. Thanks.
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December 04, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
#44
alu + 3mm dibond CNC cut














I am short on risers (should be here in next few days)


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November 17, 2017, 10:53:18 PM
#43
It seems to be a good idea can get the cooling as we want.
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November 17, 2017, 10:50:40 PM
#42
It's a good idea
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November 17, 2017, 09:56:01 PM
#41
Of course volume can be smaller - just multiply width x lenght x height
Why? You selected arbitrary dimensions for whatever reasons you've had, and then somehow made a conclusion that a vertical rig takes up less volume than a horizontal one — by comparing two frames that you already have? All this proves is that your vertical frame takes up less space than your horizontal frame. But people asked you why bother with vertical frames in general, and as one of the reasons you said that they take up less volume. But they don't, it's only your two particular frames that demonstrate this kind of difference. There's nothing about vertical frames in general that somehow makes them take up less volume than horizontal frames, at least I can't think of anything. Maybe I'm missing something here.. Let's say we've got an ATX board with 8 GPUs and 2 PSUs. How does assembling all this hardware vertically save any volume compared to a classic horizontal frame?

Risers mounted on spacers is very helfpul if you changing cards often and also can be mounted a lot quicker, i change cards bcoz I am buying them used from gumtree/ebay and also there are different models

WHY?
COST
after i leave shop, electronic parts lost value immiadately - doesnt matter if used 1-2 days of 3 months - 40$ instant loss for one card
8 x 1070 - lost in value 300-320$
this 330$ I will mine in 33-35days

and i dont even add other parts to the equation, like psu/cpu/ram etc
You lost me there. How is buying parts used in any way related to changing cards often? Smiley It doesn't matter where you buy your GPUs — new from a store or used from ebay — either way you buy them for a mining rig. You install the cards (new or used) and then you mine with them. Why buying used cards make you rape your risers frequently by installing/removing the cards?

so if you do the math and for example build NEW mining rig from shop, and want to sell it after 2 months you will realized your profit will be close to zero
Why would I buy a mining rig and then sell it after 2 months? Do people actually do this kind of stuff? What kind of a business model is that? Why not just keep the hardware and keep profiting from mining until the new generation of GPUs show up?
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November 17, 2017, 08:28:58 PM
#40
reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me.

Of course volume can be smaller - just multiply width x lenght x height

I have one frame for 6 + 2 gpu and it is 54x45x30cm so 5.4 x 4.5 x 3.0 = 73L

mine is 7 +1 =  24x28x70 so 2.4 x 2.8 x 7.0 = 47L

So 3 of vertical will take the same amount of space as 2 normal ones, maybe not revelant for most ppl but for me it is


Risers mounted on spacers is very helfpul if you changing cards often and also can be mounted a lot quicker, i change cards bcoz I am buying them used from gumtree/ebay and also there are different models

WHY?
COST
after i leave shop, electronic parts lost value immiadately - doesnt matter if used 1-2 days of 3 months - 40$ instant loss for one card
8 x 1070 - lost in value 300-320$
this 330$ I will mine in 33-35days

and i dont even add other parts to the equation, like psu/cpu/ram etc


so if you do the math and for example build NEW mining rig from shop, and want to sell it after 2 months you will realized your profit will be close to zero
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November 17, 2017, 07:54:02 PM
#39
reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

I kind of understand the first reason, but the other 4 don't make much sense to me. The volume can't be smaller — you're still putting the same amount of computer hardware inside a frame, so why does it matter whether it's vertical or horizontal? And why "mounted risers on spacers", what's the point? When you're building a horizontal rig, the risers just sit on a support beam, by themselves — they don't need any mounting that way. I also don't understand how it is less cost and why you compare it with a "normal frame in shop" (instead of a self-built horizontal frame). Vertical rig like this requires a lot more work cause you have to fight the gravity: you have to attach the motherboard, the risers.. while with horizontal rigs the board and risers can just sit on support beams without any screws and spacers. I can agree with the first reason (although it's only relevant if you have up to 2-3 rigs, cause even with 3 rigs stacked horizontals require similar (if not smaller) footprint). All the other reasons sound strange to me.
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November 17, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
#38
New project in progress

28x30cm base+ 70cm height (little bigger but i can fit 2x psu + 8 gpu + atx + long and wide gpus (zotac amp)

+ 5x120mm on front panel
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November 01, 2017, 05:06:05 PM
#37

They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160.
Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability.

Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of  Roll Eyes



I heard from a contact that since that batch of RX 570's they flew in from China directly, a 6 X 570 system costs them under $1300 all inclusive, while it costs me over $2100 Sad
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November 01, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
#36
Nice pictures  Wink

I think, a little bit better cooling is moving up and far away from the wall
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November 01, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
#35

They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160.
Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability.

Ah, my bad ... not an Asrock board then. $160 isn't a bad price, wonder what they get the GPUs for in a bulk purchase - dealing direct with the manufacturer ... prices we can only dream of  Roll Eyes

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November 01, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
#34
i like your style.  My first frame is more of a giant test bed it could be placed horizontal as well but its been working better upright.  at the moment it only has 7 cards in it but it could easily do 16, maybe even 20.
https://i.imgur.com/WixHBCi.jpg
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October 31, 2017, 12:25:54 PM
#33
That is awesome! I'm waiting for your dimensions and material Cheesy Thanks
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October 31, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
#32
I can plug one more


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October 30, 2017, 02:15:01 PM
#31
Its clever, regarding space wise.

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October 30, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
#30
Thank you for the images.
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October 30, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
#29
i am waiting for more cards for now

but just for the pic i plug some old radeons

from the bottom

1050ti
7970 not connected
1070fe
r9 290x not connected
1060 6gb
1060 gb
7970 not connected





(why i not use top slot for one 1060? i think sth is wrong with riser, I will replace it later)

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October 30, 2017, 12:06:03 PM
#28
Really nice! I am doing something similar  (https://ibb.co/j3RVO6 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-mining-rig-frame-suggestions-2335082)



Do you have a picture of it filled with GPUs?
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October 30, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
#27
Frame looks really nice! Mining Vertcoin on the vertical rig would be awesome Wink
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October 30, 2017, 04:31:39 AM
#26
Im not saying you copied.
Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new.
Thats all.
it was not excuse, I wanted to copy working project, but i can't find anything, thats why i have to do it my own, reasons which push me to do it:
- less space (footprint)
- less size overall(volume)
- mounted risers on spacers
- less cost for me
- if i will buy "normal" frame in shop I will wait few days

Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

your concer is right but this is matter?

difference will be 5*C maybe, hashrate will be the same


Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air

too much drilling - maybe gain 1-2*C, I made this case for my self and check if this will be work ok, now I can copy dimensions and all holes patern and made it via CNC laser/mill without mistakes Wink
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October 30, 2017, 03:31:15 AM
#25
Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise.

Then you have to put fans in everycard along side in order to avoid heats contact from upper card right? Seems not practical to me.
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October 30, 2017, 02:22:44 AM
#24
Placing a fan on top instead a cover would nice to suck out the hot air
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October 29, 2017, 10:09:28 PM
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Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.

If you have vertical fans along the side of the case the heat wont have time to rise.
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October 29, 2017, 10:06:59 PM
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believe me, I try to found some pics in google vertical case but no luck

also important thing for me are risers mounted with spacers firmly to frame - now mounitng/changing gpu is very very simple and fast

Im not saying you copied.
Im saying the concept of vertical case is nothing new.
Thats all.
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October 29, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
#21

This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA

Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick.



Wow, it's impressive, much smaller than my own rig on a rack. Do you guys know the dimensions or where we can buy such a rig like genesis' one?
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October 29, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
#20
This design can minimize dust stick on processor heat sink.  Smiley
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October 29, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
#19
Looks a great way to minimise the footprint of the rig. My only concern would be as heat rises the upper cards are then becoming hotter than the bottom.
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October 29, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
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believe me, I try to found some pics in google vertical case but no luck

also important thing for me are risers mounted with spacers firmly to frame - now mounitng/changing gpu is very very simple and fast
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October 29, 2017, 05:45:52 PM
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Great idea  Smiley


Its nothing new.
Ive seen these before and pretty sure there's hundreds if not thousands in use.
See below:

]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA&t=35s[url][/url]
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October 29, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
#16
Looks good, nice work, could work better for some people as heaters during the winter Cheesy
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October 29, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
#15

This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA

Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick.



They actually use Colorful boards, which are like $40 in bulk, and server PSU's that cost them 50$ with the breakout and cables, a 40$ CPU's with a 30$ stick of RAM, so their total systems costs them $160.
Cant beat that price and efficiency, and it sure beats a 12/13/19 GPU build in stability.
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October 29, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
#14
Great job looks great.
You might want to mount the motherboard on the other side facing your cards. Those riser cables die to quicky if bended.

risers/usb cables are not bend at all

60cm risers are long enough, but always you can use angle usb conectors like this:

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1CM6KPFXXXXauXVXXq6xXFXXXI/PCI-E-1x-to-16x-Mining-Machine-Enhanced-Extender-Riser-Card-Adapter-with-60cm-2-feet.jpg


more pics soon, maybe tuesday

PS

whole case is made by hand (hand drill/ hand threaded) base is 24x28 bcoz i have 24x56cm sheet of aluminium plate at home so i decided to not order new one

i decided to make it by hand bcoz for CNC I will wait 1-2 weeks


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October 29, 2017, 05:44:49 AM
#13
It's first time to see vertical case. Looks good.
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October 29, 2017, 04:30:42 AM
#12

This sort of idea caught my eye a while back, it's not too dissimilar to the way Genesis Mining build their rigs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUs3Z1z0TvA

Looks like they are using Asrock Pro BTC boards with their own custom software/os on USB stick.

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October 29, 2017, 03:13:52 AM
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Solid alluminium case - it's right approach! Just add external fans at the back side of the frame (befor GPUs)  and "problem - hot air goes up" will dissapear. It's due to fans airflow is faster than the convection of air bottom-up
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October 29, 2017, 12:57:22 AM
#10
well it is always nice to see greatly done stuff as your rig, for example.
it is well think of and planned well before construction and save a lot of space I must admit

post a picture with full gpus load))  then we all will give thumps up!
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October 29, 2017, 12:23:55 AM
#9
Look cool. Even your monitor is also vertical haha.
I'm thinking to change some of my rigs to vertical build like yours, it may help on ventilation and saving area, actually my room is pretty small with 3.8m x 3.2m.
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October 28, 2017, 09:07:28 PM
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Great job looks great.
You might want to mount the motherboard on the other side facing your cards. Those riser cables die to quicky if bended.
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October 28, 2017, 08:22:58 PM
#7
Nice, would love to see some more pics with the fully loaded rig. I was considering doing something like this myself, mainly because of those leaky Sapphire RX480 cards.. there were reports out there of those cards dying, supposedly because that oily liquid mixed with dust shorts something. Not a problem in regular desktop PCs, but turned out to be a problem for mining rigs with GPUs placed vertically. So a rig like yours, with cards placed horizontally, is probably the best way to go for "leaking" cards. But it's a lot harder to build a rig like this, so I eventually gave up. Cheesy
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October 28, 2017, 07:55:32 PM
#6
temperatures - 62-64*C at 45-48% fans speed

motherboard on pictures is gigabyte ma-790fx-dq6 am2+ (5x pci-e with powered molex) + i added pci-e multiplier 1x pci-e x1 @ 4x pci-e x1 (8 gpu in total)

(mobo + cpu + ram - 40eur, multiplier 20-22eur) total 60-62eur - i think cheapest 8x pci-e BTC mobo cost about 90-100eur (without cpu/ram)

cheap and I dont have to mess with all that bios settings like pci-e gen,4g encoding or all that crap, 8 gpus works plug and play
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October 28, 2017, 07:42:48 PM
#5
Pretty Slick! nicely done
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October 28, 2017, 07:38:11 PM
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What MB is this? looks like a very old socket
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October 28, 2017, 04:18:24 PM
#3
Please let us know what temp-s you get at all
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October 28, 2017, 04:05:19 PM
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Nice construction!  Smiley
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October 28, 2017, 03:44:38 PM
#1
I know, I know hot air goes up, but i tested it horizontally as well and then i had maybe 2-3*C less temps, the same noise (tested with 4x1060 and 2x1070)
case have room for one more gpu (total 7 risers inside, and maybe i can add 3 long gpus on top or 4 short ones) via pci-e multiplier






24x28x61cm (40l)
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