Topic: My view of economy (Read 1028 times)

If you don't have skills in working then you will always work like ordinary people and it won't be much different in terms of achieving financial freedom for the better. Skills will give anyone the opportunity to get a better job and without skills we will be hard work not smart work.

Having ambition in investing is good but it takes skills in investing and don't expect to get success in investing without having knowledge. There is nothing difficult if someone wants to learn investment or trading and everyone can learn to improve their skills to be better. It is impossible when people learn but they are not able because something that is learned will definitely be able to be run correctly.

In investment or trading you cannot follow others completely because it requires knowledge first and following the flow without the right knowledge will not give you success in investment or trading.

This is crab. I don't know where to quantify this post because it has no meaning. Do you actually think that trading will give you what you want in life? By then way how muchoney do you have to trade? It seams to me that you really need to upgrade in thinking.

Your point of view is correct. And I have gone through this path, I have dozens of skills in different areas, and indeed, repetition of any work brings a person to perfection and professionalism, but trading is something special. No matter how well you know the processes of economics and human behavior, you will never be sure of the forecast. And if the forecast of the price movement is incorrect, you will always think "maybe I was wrong?
After all, it seemed like the odds were on my side." Unfortunately, trading is like a wild animal, whose habits can be unpredictable, and even if you train it for years. It is still wild.

Yes skill is something that have to be learnt and with this face of economy you will actually need a skill or an investment and when you are fishing for a skill then you have to make proper research on what ever you want to do. Their must be a skill that you would have add interest on is just for you to make proper enquiry on it and when you start how to also improve on it and also look for ways at which you can size opportunity from the skill. And when you start and their is any form of challenge does not mean that you have to give up so easily, the stories of those that have learned a skill and have succeeded in graduating from the process of learning they always have stories to tell but when you exercise patients during your learning then you should not worry, just take it as a step and believe it will soon be over. Focusing on one particular skill is good and if it is trading just do all your best and learn with a small amount that can anyone can afford to lose.

And it might not be necessarily trading their other skill out their that anyone can learn depending on the one we have interest on, government can not serve everyone so for now is to  choose only one  thing and focus on that part.

I agree with you, everyone has a different way of achieving their goals and that is why we can never be the same in life, seeing someone richer than you doesn't mean you don't know what you are doing or your skills are not enough to make it in life and also seeing someone poor doesn't mean that the person doesn't have any skills of making money in life, we can never be the same and that is why even when we work hard every day we can never achieve what we want in a single day, some people have a better work but whenever they have money or collected their salary they didn't enjoy it because they have many responsibilities that they will take, we can choose how to live our life but if care is not taking we can't even enjoy it like the way we use to live before, so in life, we have to see things like it is and try our best to have a good life.

No man has the skill to begin with.  Human skill is created by doing something i.e. repeatedly doing it.  If you are interested in any work, try this work again and again, then you will develop your skills  In this case, even if the talent is less, you will learn.  If you want to be good at trading, you must stay in trading.

We all realize that to be able to achieve the goal, of course we have to have the right strategy in order to achieve it and everyone of course has a different strategy in achieving it, as you said is very true, not all strategies are suitable for different people, it can be that the strategy is suitable and can make them succeed in achieving their goals, but when other people try with the same strategy, they fail at it,  So if we want to achieve success, stay focused on our goals and also the skills we have and also we must continue to develop the skills we have so that we can achieve the targets we want and we do not have to be influenced by the achievements that have been obtained by others if it is not a motivation for ourselves to be able to develop even better.

Labor is a commodity like many other components a business must purchase and use wisely, labor has a value but requires usage to really provide profit and yield an income.  So purely having even skilled labor will require the work and ability to find those jobs in which to deploy the skilled labor.  By itself however highly people might value themselves, you are only worth as much as your next job pays.  

You must allocate and respect the job provided by the employer basically, without that people would be self employed and have alot more time spent trying to find the work in the first place.  An economy can still stall even with a good workforce, its unfortunate when this happens but its vital that labor is a liquid commodity not disrupted by disputes too much.  Its part of why inflation is so dangerous in upsetting pay negoiations and potentially leading to no work and strikes, etc.

If you don't pay much, then how can you motivate people to become skilled workers? Companies are forced to pay them high to motivate them. Btw companies give skilled workers such a big comfort that I know many dudes who earn six figures but don't start their own business and don't think about financial freedom because their jobs provide free GYM membership, free pool membership, free PlayStation in the office, free meals, cooperative events and etc... This is a game changer in what you say, this stops many skilled workers from further development.

If you don't have skills but are full of high ambitions, then you needs tons of money and good connections or otherwise you are lost.

Everyone now needs a skill, and not having one puts your personal life in danger because, even if you graduate from college without a job, how will you support yourself? If you don't have a skill that can be used as a source of income, you may even start to consider other options. However, it's never too late to acquire a skill just look for one that is in demand and learn the tricks to honing your craft so that it becomes marketable and having knowledge and how to market your skill is what is very important and also to go for a demanding one so that you won't be having any problems with your skill when it comes to demand, and when selecting have passion for it is also important so that you don't get tired of it.


Their is nothing that we can not archive if our mind set is right towards the skill we want to learn then we are going do archive it and another thing again is during our learning again our relationship with people matters to how friendly we are so that people will also want to give us jobs when just because of our attitude towards them and I have gotthen a lot of experience with them just because of their attitude I will not want to do because with them and how to manage this thugs are been taught while learning a skill. We are the one that will actually encourage our self when learning and after learning.

Absolutely right. And the IT sphere has been in need of specialists for a long time. Many experts said that programmers and testers will soon be unnecessary, but this deficit has been going on for probably 10 years. Apparently, we live in a world that is becoming increasingly digital, and then perhaps these specialists will be needed even more.
And as for ordinary workers and people not from the IT sphere - there are many of them. And there is great competition among them.

You beter know that not all skill that requires not working self employment. Most skills are industrial skill that requires a person to still depends on salary to survive. There are certain skill a person will lean and decide to be financially free.

That is not good for you, yo better use your life judiciously and make the best out of it, as life is not a bed of roses. If life looks so simple to you now it might no be same tomorrow. It is said that ...make haste while the sun shines.... If you don't do the needful now, when responsibilities catches up with you, you will know the true meaning of post preparation ahead of time. When your trading money can not be able to feed you if you don't have additional skill to back you up.

People learn in many different ways, I personally disliked the education system and was happy to get out of it. Some people go on to college and universities, some people go straight into the world of work and others might gain practical experience through trade courses. There are so many different ways to success out there, but they all involve trying something new and sometimes people can just be lazy or accept low paying jobs without ambition. It's easy to get stuck in a rut like that, but at least if you keep trying to raise your position you might get a lucky break one day. Networking can also unlock doors for you, but you also need to be ready to grasp every opportunity that is out there because they can quickly disappear again.

How we live our lives and what we do to achieve our goals shows our own path. I agree with what you said. Everyone's goals are similar, but the paths we choose to get there are different. We do not live in the same country, we do not have the same environment, and our living conditions are not the same. These things I have listed also show that the paths we follow are different. The goals are similar, but the paths taken do not have to be similar.

If you strive for the paths taken to reach your goals to be the same, this can sometimes cause you to struggle too much. A planned progress is important in achieving financial freedom and other goals.

I personally agree to your suggestion because it's obvious that to achieve a goal cannot come from one strategic way it may be that the way you achieve your own personal goal might not be the same another person will achieve it on so everything have strategies that is why people do make their money in different ways and in different opportunity method so what I'm saying is that your skill cannot give you what another person's skill will tender to the person it is the based on a personal experience and the personal understanding to actualize your objective in your own strategic way

The path to success is always what people find difficult to acknowledge earlier, they feel the path is always the same and try to copy from others which has caused some detriments to their success goal and how long the achievement of it will be. Financial freedom is what everyone is aiming at, and this also applies to how you view things and how you intend to tackle pending challenges in the path to success. With focus, dedication and optimism, you’ll undoubtedly reach your set goals. Nothing comes in a platter of gold especially when you’re not birthed with a silver spoon.

For IT people I think it's natural that they are easy to change jobs because they have skills and currently there is still a lot of need for programmers and other fields in the IT world, their employment is very wide at this time and rarely people who have abilities in this field, the demand for this labor is much greater with a large salary, so surely they are looking for and can get a better job than before, even just a $200 salary increase with a reduction in duties it is much wiser to have a comfortable job.

However, in other common fields such as companies, there are currently a lot of labor resources, so if you decide to quit, you must first see whether you will get a new job or not, or whether you have enough money or not before deciding to quit.

Your statement is correct. But I think those who try themselves are definitely able to change their lives. There are people who expect to do a normal job without any pressure, their life will not change much. They will become more helpless in the long run.

There are several reasons for this. People cannot work all their whole life. As there is an age limit. If there is a low paying job then he has to manage his own family with the crisis of own money. Nothing will be made for the future.

One of the reasons for saying these words is that there is no need to rely on trading but if one learns trading and manages it with patience then he can be successful from trading platform at some point. He can create an opportunity to live independently.

In today's world, you need to be very bold in making decisions about moving to a new job.
You need to value your work.
But as far as I have studied statistics on such actions among staff, only in the field of development and programming do employees (programmers and testers) very often change their jobs.
Many are even ready to quit their current project and move to a new job for a $200 raise. And this is normal. Thus, most people change their jobs in IT companies once a year.

I think there is but the potential is not good because you will be cheated by the manager and I have experienced this when developing potential in fish farming and now the processor has developed it himself. Even in trading, you can also use the services of people in trading and if I'm not mistaken, the Binance exchange provides it but back to what I said to what extent can this potential provide certainty.

In fact, we ourselves can do trading and investing independently so that the involvement of other people is not really needed. But what needs to be done is how someone must learn to understand how to do it correctly so as not to experience losses.

You are right and this is just an analogy to illustrate how someone must have the skills to do something because opportunities don't just come. The methods or methods used by people will be a reference for perfecting and it is not wrong to learn at all. Especially if it is related to trading or investment where other people's experiences will be used as material to perfect the skills we have.

So you want "lazy" people to profit from the hard work that "hard working" people have done. Anyone can acquire new skills if you are willing to "learn" new things. I have taught myself a lot of new skills, by simply using the Internet and my phone.... "Google and Youtube are your mentor"

You do not need formal education and higher learning to achieve most new skills in life, you only need the drive to search for that information and finding all the tools that are out there for free.

Once you acquired the "basic" knowledge, you can execute those tasks and build from there. Example : Search on Youtube... on how to fix a specific car engine and then learn the basics, then start working part-time for a workshop.... and build from there, until you get enough money to pay for some formal qualifications.... and this applies to many other jobs out there. (before you know it, you own your own workshop or you work for some huge car dealership) 

Nowadays there is no job that only relies on capital without skills because every job really needs skills so that the capital can be managed properly and not run out immediately because of wrong steps. And from what you conclude, it is actually very right because the point is to improve skills in trading and in running investments in Bitcoin so that the money we use for these two things is at least not wasted and runs out just like that because of our own actions that are not quite right.

This is a pretty profound and very meaningful analogy because everyone who just follows the flow that has been created by others will also not develop well even though we should not go against the current in the current market. Because this can only be done by people who are able to create different currents in the market, but for ordinary people who are struggling through trading and investment, it is also not wrong to see the methods that have been applied by people who have been able to succeed through these two things.

You say you don't have any skills, so how can you invest and trade in bitcoin because the journey requires money as capital. Skills are also needed when you are involved in trading because it requires analysis and even skills are needed when someone is involved in bitcoin investment so as not to panic when running. I conclude that it's not that you don't have skills but your skills are not that good so they need to be improved to be better at implementing.

If you only know the river and go with the flow, it's not an easy job because there will be a time when the current will drag you to the bottom of the river. So you need to learn to swim so you don't drown when you want to explore the harsh current and vice versa involvement in investment and trade.

When someone tries to improve themselves to be better, they must do it perfectly and don't let them not finish it which makes them not get any results from what they do and they must also be patient with every process they have to go through because there will be many challenges that they will face when they try to change themselves to be better than before, I am sure when they can do it consistently of course they will be able to achieve their lives better than before.

When someone delays to change their condition for the better then it will be very unlikely that their life will improve by itself therefore it is very important for anyone to immediately move and try as hard as possible so that their life can be better than before, because if we continue to delay it will certainly make us far behind and it is true as you said it will not be possible for other people to change our lives for the better without any effort from ourselves.

The enthusiasm and willingness to learn in order to improve ourselves to be better in any condition including in economic conditions are things that must exist simultaneously and there should be no delay because time continues to run without waiting for anyone to move. We can see people who are late in improving themselves will continue to be left behind by people who want to learn and have the enthusiasm and willingness to get changes in their lives. So it is quite important to have these two things within ourselves if we want to have a better change for ourselves because now the one who can help us to be better is not someone else, but only ourselves and everyone must be aware of that.

at least we have the will to achieve it, there will always be a way to achieve it, by learning a lot that is the most important thing in achieving economic progress, in acquiring skills that we can, but it is not enough, it must be accompanied by enthusiasm within ourselves, so that it is much better in living it.

I think everyone will continue to do their jobs to be able to meet their needs because it is very unlikely that someone will be able to run their lives well without a job that gives them income and for some people who choose to continue working and not running a business of course they don't like challenges in their lives and of course the income they get from their jobs is enough to meet their needs.

It is true that some governments make policies that are not beneficial for some entrepreneurs and workers and this certainly happens because the government system only cares about themselves and does not think about the progress of the nation they lead, this of course will be very detrimental to the majority of society, if only the government could make policies for the benefit of many people of course this would be very good and of course would have a big influence on economic growth.

I do not think you deeply understood the angle of Op's statement that " those who don't work will enjoy the life", is that not a wrong perspective of life? I wouldn't commend what Op said as a right point of view, not also saying that you're wrong for appreciating his points, but the fact that we all need each other to build a strong economy derails the idea of letting some people work and leaving others jobless, hoping that they enjoy being jobless.

 The level of ability of each individual has a very big difference, you have a mindset like a boss who wants to earn money by employing other people so that you have more time to rest and go on vacation with your family. Dalam situasi yang berbeda, anda harus memiliki modal untuk membayar gaji para pekerja untuk mencapai kebebasan Financial, namun bagi para pekerja yang tidak memiliki modal, mereka akan menjual skil atau tenaganya untuk menghasilkan uang.

This relationship of mutual need cannot be erased at any time, people with limited capital certainly do not want to continue living in hardship, but because there is no other choice, they must be willing to work hard in order to make money. For me, this condition is a beauty in life. The relationship of mutual need in terms of work has formed naturally, if everyone becomes a Boss, who will work.?

I don't understand what you mean because actually by working we will get money to meet our living needs and so on. Each job has a different system where there is an ideal time to work in one day. Work is required to have prospects for employees where they will work according to the applicable rules. If we don't want to follow their system then we should build our own business so that we can create our own system.

The job sector is different where there are jobs that require manual laborers, freelancers and permanent employees. For the salary issue, it will be adjusted to each job and maybe what happens is that it is difficult to get a decent job with a salary that is comparable to now. If people do not have the required skills, they are forced to become casual laborers who have slightly smaller salaries.

You don't have no skills but you have the ability to run investments and this also requires skills in running. It is impossible for everyone to have the same skills, for example you have the ability to run investments but not everyone has those skills. So everyone has a different level of ability even though everyone has the ability to learn but talking about opportunities not everyone will get the same opportunity.

This world is very fair, I have a friend who has absolutely no intention of leaving his job, he really likes working with other people and doesn't want to start his own business, so actually the reasons for all workers are different, some are afraid to leave their comfort zone and there are also those who have a passion for being a worker.

Without workers, entrepreneurs will have difficulty running their businesses, so they all actually need each other, it's just that the role of the government is often overlapping and unfair towards the working class and entrepreneurs.

Maybe those people who have skills decide to stop working is because they don't get a nice payment/salary from their work or they want to search for a better work. So that is normal if they decide to stop working but they will find out the other work that can give better salary to them. That is happen in many places and many companies whereas many employee who have skills doesn't get a nice reward from their working. If someone want to have better salary, they must have skills and learning more skills so the companies will know that they have some skills that the companies needed. That will gives them a chance to be accepted to their employee with a better salary. That can also help their carrier to the next level and that means, they can get bigger salary than before. But it seems employee doesn't think much about them as when they accept as an employee, they just working as the other without think about how they can have more skills that can give them to get a better carrier.

I do agree with the part about soft skills, I used to work at a company, and I mostly did nothing because my job was boring and just required me to work for an hour and yet I was there for 8 hours, but over course of years I became someone who has been there for the longest time, which meant that I knew how everything worked, while everyone else was either new, or at least newer than me.

So whenever a problem happened, like whenever things didn't go according to plan, they came to me for help and ask me what they have to do in that case, it didn't matter if it was work time, or 3 am middle of the night, I was asked even before the owner, and I helped, never backed down (except the 3 am one lol) and that's a soft skill, I didn't know what to do, I just knew what previous people did, and told me, never did it myself, I just told people what I was told and they actually were the ones who did it. I think these type of people are required in every company if you ask me.

Hard skills or soft skills are both tools to achieve success in your economy. But most successful people today are those who have soft skills. Abilities such as communicating or analyzing as a social media expert are soft skills that are very necessary to achieve success in this modern era economy. I do not underestimate hard skills because I also earn money with hard skills. But it is important for everyone to be able to master a little bit of soft skills. I have a friend who is successful in selling his products even though he does not spend much money on advertising. He uses his money to learn how to create good content and he can promote his products with the content he creates.

Getting a job is not easy for some people, especially those who do not have skills in anything, so it is very important for anyone to have a skill that can be mastered well so that they can have a job that gives them income to be able to meet their needs, because it is very impossible for us to have income without skills that we can do and to be able to invest and also run a business of course requires capital but not everyone has the capital for this so it is very important for anyone to have skills first and be able to do something that gives them income and set aside some of the income they get for their investment for the future.

Having good knowledge about how to earn money is certainly very important and also after having income from the work we do, we must be able to manage it well because without knowing how to manage it well, of course it will be very difficult to save and even invest, indeed not everything we get from education will be able to be implemented in life but we must be able to adapt to all conditions that occur in real life.

even with our hard the economy have become and even getting a job is harder than we can think and not everyone will have the capital for start up to invest in business, and that is were learning a skill comes in you actually need a skill to succeed in this hard times because no matter what you have to have means of earning, without a means of earning in this period then how do you go about survival, and the same way that the price of things keep going up the same way that the price of labor is going up, and if you go for a more lucrative job, if you save enough money then you can start up business for your self, so that when it gets to the point you can not work again then you just retire to your investment.  and any knowledge you are acquiring have to bring money because that is what is need to able to buy your needs. and in universities now they have added entrepreneurship courses so that you don't graduate and be looking for jobs up and down, every country are trying to make their youths relevant to their self because the opportunities that education created is already closing gradually, because even the population of those going to school is much.

However, this is the right point of view. We have been taught since childhood that we must have many skills and abilities.
But are those who are jacks of all trades rich? No. These are unhappy people who feel the injustice of life, because they know how to do a lot but have no wealth. And the whole point is that you need to be able to earn money using assets. This is a new and correct vision of the path to wealth.
It does not matter that you do not know how to do anything, you have money and you can always find a repairman / cook, etc. It is not necessary to be able to do everything in the modern world.

Basically we should not give up on the situation, let alone just go with the flow when we don't know where the flow will flow. I agree with you, we must have a purpose in life, where we want to take this life, don't give up on shortcomings because we don't have skills. There are two skills, there are skills because we have talent since birth, there are also skills because of effort and hard work.

Actually the most important thing is to change your mindset because mindset can shape character. Maybe in the past you had many shortcomings in anything and even had no skills. But when your mindset is changed, you will feel an extraordinary difference. There are many examples of successful people in the world who initially had no skills but with pressure and persistence in learning something they were able to succeed. The point is, whatever our current situation, don't give up easily and dare to get out of your comfort zone.

Even this is fascinating topic, but we can't take this long here usually peoples love to have challenging skills or hard skills because they feel these will give them better source of income even much time we have things which are having no challenge.

Still give better way of life because they are helping as well always trying to stay with technical or having things which are looking tough not works due to having mindset we stay we need creativity which is not skill, it's natural and this is surely can bring better changes with having some guides because it's always important for everyone to have things as he can use his mind in better way.

For success having things on track is always good because if you are having confident in yourself, and you are skilled for using things is always good way of earning money and having success in life. If someone want to live with advantage then surely he needs to stay skilled and having better way of use because this is always increased your chances of progress and also bring better finances because without things it's never been achieved.

Yup, Economic knowledge plays vital role in life ,So we should focus on our skills. Skills are important in life because through skills,we will be paid and everyone will respect us . One thing,I will add ,that is you should learn knowledge of fiance. Every one has different point of view about economy but everyone should have basic knowledge of finance. If you are job holder ,it will be helpful for you when you will take decisions for your company because you will see each aspects of your financial statement. In business,that terms are common and if someone is business man and he has no knowledge about economy and finance he will be unsuccessful nearly.

The world's changing faster than ever. It's about your attitude, not only about what you know. Nowadays, soft skills are the absolutely fundamental basis rather than a bonus. In the current market, negotiation, communication, networking are the tools either helping or destroying you

Look at the top dogs in any field. They are masters of persuasion and teamwork, not only brilliant individuals. The difference between the players and the onlookers is creativity, time management, leadership abilities

If you lack technical knowledge, concentrate especially on your soft abilities. This is about finding your position in a complicated society, not only about earning money.  make use of their skills. Those who can adjust, relate, and create will shape the future. Remember, success is about how you play the game not only about what you have to offer

Even if you are not a worker you are working your wages via investment in your pension.   People on all levels are involved in the economy even if they dont appear to be.  

Almost everyone in a country is paying taxes also of some kind even those on a supported income will pay a sales tax on their expenditures so theres always an involvement in the economy thats quite hard to step away from.    Your idea of a freely realized existence probably wont be a thing till free energy is a reality then I think information as an economy might be more a thing then it is now.

If one can move forward in acquiring skills then one can definitely improve one's future.  Not only in this subject but also in knowledge he has to focus on which subject it is most important to acquire knowledge, if you want to move ahead in a bright future then acquiring knowledge is very important.

It is funny how when we talk about having skills, people begin to assume that having a skill is all about having hard skills only. You do not neccessarily need to have some technical hard skills before you can become productive in any work environment. Sometimes what you need are some soft skills that relates to a particular work role. You can be a creative thinker without a technical skill, your idea alone might be what an organisation needs to be productive. Your organisational skill, management skill, time management skill, networking/social skill, negotiation skill etc might be all you need to utilise to your advantage. I do not have any hard skill, yet I am still earning with my soft skills. Work on your soft skills and start earning with it.

at least in this case be yourself regarding the view of seeking success, and the most important thing is to be confident in ourselves in doing anything in running the wheels of the economy, which clearly depends on our skills, because everyone has advantages regarding the skills they master in their field to achieve progress.

That is a cycle of making money. When you're able to make that much from whatever trade you've been off, you have to put it somewhere else for it to earn on its own. And you as someone who just wants to have your retirement can do not so much but still make money from whichever things that you are good at. Are you good at buying and selling? that's trading and trading isn't just all about the crypto and stock market, you can also do that in physical things which is commonly known as flipping. Survival in this life is what we all have and that's a skill too. 

In as much as I really want to buy more ideas from the view of economy, I tend not to get the direct message your trying to pass and I want to start from there. Your write-ups and explanation are beating around the Bush, and for your English it's not passing the right information it should pass and so I find it hard to understand this content.

But just so you know economy is vast, and with that it should be understood that some things ought to be while some shouldn't, what I'm saying is in this economy today, everyone seems to be up and doing cause they don't want to be seen as a liability for whatsoever reason and it's in different category, if you don't want to work, if you have a well define skills you can use that as well to augment the fact that you ain't working and surely life goes on but if it's in your context I bet you it's not as you think.

If I can understand your point well. You are trying to emphasise being an investor, not a worker. Yes, it does happen, but the fact is that even the investors work is just that they find it less stressful because they usually deal with their mental health. You can have your perception on ways to get money, but you can’t make everyone do this the same way you are thinking. That is why most people tend to discourage those that are ready to go for their dreams. So the truth is that all skills are very important and they need to be encouraged; moreover, nothing is wasted in this world. 

It is true that life should be like flowing water, but it is also important to remember that if we just follow the flow without a clear direction and purpose, we will not only be dragged in the wrong direction, but will also drown. and when we have a skill, then our place should not be as a worker, the skill should be used to create new opportunities or even start our own business, become an entrepreneur. Because that way, not only will we benefit, but others will also feel the benefits of the business we build. So instead of just enjoying the flow that is not or where it will go, try to be someone who determines the flow.

And more than that, having a skill is a very valuable asset in our lives. By having skills, it is not only possible for someone to get a decent job and a decent salary, but also to innovate, solve problems, and even create something new and valuable.

When someone decides to use their skills to start a business or create new opportunities, they are not only helping themselves achieve financial freedom, but also contributing to economic growth and the welfare of society.

We have explained it above and it is clear that it does not make sense. Trading is not an easy activity and requires methods and strategies in doing it. That is the main point so continuing a discussion like this is not useful, especially for me.
It is impossible without skills that we will be successful in investing and trading. Expecting luck does not seem to apply here in these two types of activities.
Don't prolong it any longer.

How can he say that he doesn't have any skills yet he's telling us that he trades and invests, the truth is that you need skills to trade and mental skills to know the best time and seasons to invest in cryptocurrency. I hope that he understands the phrase 'no food for a lazy man, without having a skill to work and make money you'll end up poor and become a destitute. Ambitions without any skills or experience will lead to poverty so you need work towards your goal. There's no free lunch, you need to be good at something to get paid so get a skill and get started.

It is very unlikely that someone can get money without having skills and if someone wants to get money from trading of course they have to take their time to learn trading well and keep trying so that they can have skills and be able to make money from the trading they do because without having good knowledge about trading then it is very unlikely to succeed in trading, you are right indeed anyone will lose their money without having skills so it is important for anyone who wants to make money from trading of course they have to keep learning and also practicing in order to have good trading skills.

As they said "opportunities comes but once" when it knocks on your door just grab it and make good use of it, our ways of pursing our goals are different but the aim is the same, which is to be successful and achieving a certain thing (money or to be wealthy), everyone has a ambition and wish for a better feature, your action is your passion, your passion is your motion and hard working is what will lead you to your determination and your success.

Trading is a skill too actually, if you don't have ambitions then you wouldn't even try to trade or earn profit from your trade, you would just live your life empty. The fact that you are still want to trade and enjoying life means that you still have ambitions.

And you shouldn't think that people who do skillful work don't enjoy their life, by learning that skill and become the best at what they do is how those skillful people enjoying their life. Enjoying life is not always about money, its' about getting fully content, and one of the way is being the best at something, be better than other people and most of all be the best version of ourself.

That's why it's a lie to expect money to keep flowing without having skills. Let alone readers who have been active in trading for a long time, perhaps readers who have had the opportunity to read books or articles about trading and investment also disagree.
Losing money from trading is something that is certain to happen, but with trading skills you can minimize the loss of money.

Even if you don't have special skills, you can still learn and contribute in other ways. Just focusing on investing and making money might not always work out, especially if the economy changes. Also, investing is skill that requires experience and practice... It's not like a beginner investor will immediately make it a big without failures.

You have a strange way of thinking and view of economy, work and skill are linked to each other, you cannot succeed in work unless you have some kind of skill, unless you want to do physical work that requires any skill.

Even if you want to work in trading, you need money and skill or experience in trading, do not think that you will make money just by trading without any experience, you will encounter many problems that you do not know about and you must develop your skill and learn constantly, otherwise you will lose your money.

Many people experience that, feeling they have no skills and talents. So they are afraid to enter the world of work, afraid of starting a company one day or afraid of disappointing at work and even afraid of living life. Actually, that is not an obstacle for us to give up, feel inferior, always feel prestigious, have no confidence, and be confused with ourselves. Because basically the most important thing is that we have motivation, principles, and mindset, not skills.

But from your statement, you only invest and trade. Actually, this is also a skill because of course if you trade, technical skills, discipline, patience, and emotional control are needed. Because without these skills, your trading will fail.

Yes bro, he should really master how to trade well, trading is not as easy as what we are talking about, we have to really master good opportunities and be right on target, we have to be good at finding information about the price increase graph of a market, where we have to master the market price a little before we can start trading, and never start trading by following other people, no one can predict and guarantee 100% accuracy regarding market prices, so we must have skills in trading, don't be careless. so that the loss is meaningless.

Contrary and I am confused about what you mean. If there is no skill, how can you invest and trade. Trading is an activity that requires a lot of energy. I mean energy like skills and extra expertise to analyze opportunities.
Investing is not as complicated as trading. If you expect money to keep flowing from the two types of activities you mean, it seems like you are giving people confusion.

I think there are really countries who are run by what we called as dictators. I don't really mean the president here but I think they are close to dictators too and by the root word dictate, they can also dictate us if what we are going to do. They can enforced rules or laws that everyone must follow even if their inner self is against with it because if not, then we can faced serious consequences.

Even though there are types of systems like that, it is still possible for the people to move freely, like for example in terms of working in a job. At most, we are the ones who apply for work, so we are also the ones who can quit if we think we can't do our jobs anymore. If our bosses likes us, maybe we can give an exception like do some negotiations (E.g. cut our working hours, re-locate us to a more comfortable location, increase our salaries, etc...).

Even though we can say that we are free, it does not also mean that we will now do whatever we want including the negative or inappropriate things. I'm sorry but not trying to learn a skill is also one of it that I can include.

Definitely and in fact the society can't survive if there are there (parasites) existing. We know its definition. They are like sucking the nutrients and energy of someone or their host, making the host not perform well in any of its/their activities.

Your proposition underlines that the talented employees shall be mainly involved in their jobs, but their growth in salary should reflect the value and skill they contribute. However, making them work regularly and have breaks can make work-life balance significant. On the flip side, finding your route to financial freedom through investing and trading, and not necessarily via traditional skills, is plausible as well. One could even be successful without having basic skills by simply understanding financial management and spending. It has to first be acknowledged that the success an opportunity brings may fall under either skilled labor or budget, so one must balance hard work with rest and relaxation.


I very much agree. Individualism charts our courses while some people find fulfillment and security in their choice to be entrepreneurs, others find economic security and stability in acquiring skills and putting in backbreaking effort to supplement their income. It is important to note that everybody has his own situation, and many begin as entrepreneurs because it is the best option, in fact, the more opportune others have at the start, the easier they could be stretched into the field of materials. That life is not fair, but our understanding and respect of how people try to have good and stable lives come from the fact that not everybody has the same rights.

It is our personal preference, and just like you, some people are content to remain as workers or employees. We can say they already find comfort in doing that. But other people wanted to improve more and become financially stable, which is why they are working hard, developing skills and talent to increase their earnings.

But there is no argument with that because it was our choice, and besides, we are all not born rich and have families that could support our wants, which makes some choose to be workers because that is the only thing they can do. But rich people already had great opportunities, it was easy for them to grow their money. 

Sometimes we can say life is unfair but must accept the reality that we are not all equal in opportunities. 

So in short, your theory was to balance employment with the development of skills for economic independence. Yes, experienced professionals are very important and deserving of respect; even so, there has to be balance between work and life. Your course of action is to employ financial strategies through investing and trading in order to achieve financial independence-the best option if conventional skills are not going to be your strong suit. It involves both skilled workers and those who understand the budget, thereby contributing to the economy in diverse ways. A balance of hard work, skill acquisition, and finding time to enjoy life is what brings overall satisfaction and success.

Well, in my opinion, I see most things that can be able to earn you money as a skill. If you are an entrepreneur and you are successfully make money as an entrepreneur, then you have got a good skill in it, if you are a successful freelancer, social media skit maker, game streamer, etc, all of that is skills. Anything that can actually earn you some money is a skill. In these economy, you need to be professional  and skillful in your occupatioion.

Of course everybody employee personnel requires some level of qualities and knowledgement before and employer could consider to hire you in other to be able to deliver the job adequately and that is the reason why there are terms for job seeking interviews just for the management to select the best candidate amidst applicants.

Some people would say that there is segregation sentiment in the sectors of job employments but that is a big doubt because every job has a description and requires candidates that can be able to execute the tasks respectively.

However, obtaining a skill is not exemptional to be hired as salary earner as educative and skill potentials are equal to the tasks in demands for employments.

Even, skill containers are more advanced reliable to stay reliably on the economy figures because you can be your own Boss and only need clients to offer contracts which in any case if you hold a strong skill especially based on the need of the societies, you would earn more better than the salary earners. Interestingly, you can always have time die yourself because you decide when to work and when to take a break.

Living life with too much ambition will not provide benefits and instead you will be faced with problems.
Bad mindset for the case of people who do not have a large level of wealth and following the river of money with the flow is a bad idea. How can you follow the flow if you don't know where the water journey is.
Skills can be improved and you only need to learn gradually to understand the skills better.

Everything that is done must have a level of knowledge so that you can go through the process to achieve success.
If the thinking is like what you describe in this writing then I am afraid you will drown on the journey before reaching the edge of the river.

To each his/her own. This is a free society. Nobody should be dictating anybody. You don't order people to work and work just because they have skills. In the same manner that we are not requiring you to rise above mediocrity and stop being lazy, grow some balls, and learn a skill. It your freedom to not learn any skill at all just as it is also the freedom of the skillful to choose a life of his/her own. In all fairness, society can very well survive and thrive without the parasites who are just taking advantage of those who have skills.

First, you're not their boss if the skilled people want to stop working because they can stop whenever they want. Companies or clients will still hire them for their skills if they're needed and if they are independent contractors.

Secondly, I agree with you about enjoying life and in mind you, trading and investing is a skill. Not everyone can take risks and they want to stay in employment and there is nothing wrong with that.

Lastly, what you're saying is not accepted by you is contradicting what you do. You, denying that you're skilled for you to enjoy and have some vacation while earning is unfair. Where in fact, if you make money everywhere by trading and investing is a skill that everyone want to have while taking some vacation to the nicest beach.

That's not life, the harder you work, the more you can earn and to do business you need to make small investments or big investments, and it has to be long-term for you to succeed.  You notice that the harder a person works, the more they can improve, but if you are working, you have to have a strategy to add money.  And if you want to hold it as an investment, hold it for a long time.

Op, have you heard of this saying "no food for lazy man"?  Hehehe.

You don't have skill, how then do you manage to invest -trade? Maybe you just confused where you stand but that's fine. Everyone get confused about life sometimes. Each human has a skill and talent it's just for you to harness it and be a masterpiece on it. If you could put your mind into it you'll be surprised the manner of skill you possess.

It's also great to be ambitious but not too extreme. We all just have to learn to cut our coat according to our size tailoring it in within our financial capabilities. There's no river of money flow anywhere, you've to create yours by creating value to the society.

You’ve said a lot and you’ve actually confused a bunch of us here. Your write up is very difficult to comprehend and it’s even showing in the few points you managed to raise that you don’t really get it with economy.
Mind you, if you don’t work, how do you get the money to spend on all that concerns you. You need to work to earn the money that you would use for your daily expenses. All that work and spending is what transforms to building a healthy economy.

Most people around the world would claim to have "high ambitions and vision" but many fewer people actually have the determination to actually put it into action. Millions of people every day dream up clever ideas but they are worthless unless you are able to convert it into physical reality. You need to treat every day as a learning experience, try to seek out new territory that you may have never encountered before and expand your circle of competence. Nobody wants to go to work, but it's also possible to save and invest your salary wisely, which can allow you to break free from that cycle earlier than other people - but only if you are clever and resourceful with your income, along with always trying to hustle.

 Actually everyone has their own skills, it's just that they don't try to correct the skills that are in them, a person's skills cannot be equated because this is a skill or knowledge from different people, everyone seems to be proficient in their respective fields of mastery, and it seems you have to straighten it out more carefully and understand.

One good thing is that you have a point of view about Investment and you dare to fight in the world of Investment. and being involved in trading is a good job in this life, and we think here you are not the only one who is in the scope of trading.

trade is not a permanent things or it's not a profession for lifetime and even trade is not guaranteed profits, so you should lead your life based on trading?
since you pretend you are a untalented i think you can be good at lees demanding or less difficult job but you should not just rely on trading because it's high risky.

I would love it if you could reconstruct this post very well. It's a nice post, no doubt but it is also misleading. Notwithstanding, I got the gist and I conclude that you are wrong, the economy doesn't work the way you explained and kudos to those skilled and creative people, their contribution to the world economy can't be overestimated. From Agriculture, to finance, to industries and many more, they are the true key drivers of the economy and not you who believe that trading/investment and lazy man jobs are the way.

Such earning means like trading/investment and other lazy man jobs are only striving in a certain way in the economy because other fields allow it, but certainly, they are not fundamental and the world can't survive on them. What you are doing can't bring the world food, shelter, or clothing, which makes it worthless if those fields and workers providing them stop their service. The world will suffer and will eventually crumble and there will not be trading/investment to engage in anymore. Physical work is key while internet-based works are breathing because of them, and these electronic earning means should basically be means of passive income even though some people with wealthy privileges take advantage of it.

Your advice is not thoughtful because it could breed laziness. Ambition and vision without skills and work will lead to frustration. If you are not productive in any area you will end up jobless. If you are not working, how will you raise funds to invest or trade in cryptocurrencies? You don't need to be talented to learn a skill. All you need is diligence and consistency. Maybe you inherited so much money, or you have another means of income that doesn't require working. Many people don't have any means to save except they work hard and save.

I love this hard fact that you put straight out there to him. The truth remains, crypto trading is not the same as trading ice cream and even when you trade ice cream, I'm sure you need basic marketing skills to leverage over the overpopulated market of other ice cream sellers, who probably produce better products than you do. If you trade ice-cream, if you come into the ice cream trading market, either as a manufacturer or as a distributor, you need to understand basic marketing skills to be able to improve your products as a manufacturer through enhancing your product development such as observing best practices in quality control and curating innovative flavors that will add to the taste, smell and look of the product to make it more appealing.

As a distributor, especially to the end users, you also need basic marketing strategies such as creating a viable and lasting brand identity through packaging, etc. You also need basic marketing strategies like taking advantage of the social media platforms to do online orders and expand on the audience of your products.

And there's many more things I didn't mention here that goes into trading ice cream to get your desired results which will require you to build basic yet solid skills around it. Talk more of crypto trading which is in fact more technical and requires more holistic approach into learning and understanding it.

To trade in crypto, you will need know and clearly understand the meaning of Bitcoin, Altcoins, Stablecoins and Memecoins and how they operate. You also need basic knowledge on  the liquidity in market, market cap, pump and dump, the bull run, bear run and other terminologies such as HODL, FOMO, ATH, Make Profit and Stop Loss among many other things.


I like the example of the river and swimming skills and it applies to all walks of life. These days, soft skills are not just enough and won't take you anywhere because the competition is rising every day and people are developing cutting-edge technologies driven by skills to survive. When you don't work, your economy will not grow, it will remain stagnant. A long time stagnated economy without solutions bring about collapse in countries economy like we've seen in many Sub-Saharan countries in Africa and some part of Asia.

Yes, that's kind of evident from your writing! Your mindset is very similar to the billions of poor people on the planet earth. Especially like young people from rich countries with rich dad who works hard to ensure a great lifestyle for his family.


I like that you have made an honest confession. Usually people who has not seen much hardships in life, thinks it's difficult to learn new skills. So they don't even try. But well done! Companies in your country will not have to deal with at least one self-proclaimed stupid.

Where there are workers there must be workers, I think you are good at encouraging others to be creative so that they can develop their abilities in the world of work. But both need each other and provide benefits from those who work, then you are given a salary. If everyone becomes a boss, then who will work? running a business, expanding production, marketing goods and so on?

No need to go far to find an example, you yourself admit that you do not have the ability, then you must be ready to work and become a subordinate who is ready to be told to do this and that. If you feel that it is unfair, then the problem is that you are lazy but have a dream of becoming a millionaire. that's funny

Even those person you think have skills, if they had sat back to say they are not talented so they are not going to learn skill, they would have been defeated by now. Even though you don't have talent you can learn one high paying skill, first you have to develop the interest and follow your passion. So if you invest in trade, it then means you have passion for trade, so why not expand on it and make sure you see it as the talent your passionate about, instead of just staying and saying you don't have talent when you know you have something to work on.

I find it difficult to understand your English because you're not consistent on the exact point of view you're trying to give out, but base on the world economy standards and the demands on human labour, everyone have to work and in so doing we will be able to make it up to life, any man who is not willing to work should not as well eat, but we can make a decision on what to do in life, the economy policies does not have to conform with our own plan as long as we are determined to get busy on doing something tangible in life and for the people to rely on, so that we can also depend on it for sustainability.

Everyone has a different path in life and way of achieving their goals. Working hard and honing your skills is certainly important, but it is not the only way to achieve financial freedom or enjoy life. What matters most is how we choose to live our lives and achieve our goals because everyone must follow their own path, as long as they respect the choices of others.

Your way of thinking is bad, even though you don't have skills, trading requires skill and expertise along with trading knowledge that you must master, Likewise, investing requires assessment before you do it, it's not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, crypto trading is not the same as trading ice cream.

The economy doesn't just come without you working, skills and expertise will determine whether you have a good economy, or whether you work will make money with a predetermined wage, Try researching what percentage of people work and what percentage of people open businesses based on the skills they have, nowadays with sophisticated technology, if you don't have skills you will be left behind either in the economy or in life.

 If you follow the river current, if you don't have swimming skills, you will be carried away by the current and get caught in branches or rubbish piles, without being able to reach the edge you will automatically never reach your destination.

You work just like millions others do and cut your ambition short, every single girl wants to be a princess but none wants to cook dinner a the royal wedding.


To me it seems like you know just how to waste money not how to earn them

I see that the way that There should be workers and not workers.
So If you are worker you mostly work and those who don't work will enjoy the life If everybody start doing this then nobody don't do it proper ways.
Those who have skills they should be working and not getting so high salary because that's the way for them financial freedom but we need skilled people to work yes they can rest and go holidays but mindset of skilled people that they try to stop working that's not accepted by me.
I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.