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legendary
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NASA could have known that there was water on the moon even before they landed a vehicle there, to search for water. After all, their rockets burn (oxygenize) hydrogen. The result is water. They could easily know that some of the rocket exhaust water landed on the moon.

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I think the NASA announcement on this was a disappointed. There was nothing much interesting or new that they created so much hype by doing a live stream. I thought they would revel something which might create some sort of interest or surprise but it was none of that sort of news.
legendary
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what you will soon find inyour research is that they can actually measure substances below the surface.
yep satelites can actually see aquifers under the earths ground
speculators have already been using the tech to find gold/oil rich area's
ecologists have been looking at aquifer depletion over the last decadesions in the next 4 years
These particular findings are not with active sensors such as bistatic radar which does see some meters below the surface.

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they hope between 2030-2050 to have space mining for precious metals up and running with payload capacity of 150tonnes per trip. imagine it 150tonnes of gold entering the economy each time a space cargo ship re enters earths orbit in ~20 years

bye bye gold prices
gold aggregates on earth totally by sedimentary processes, eg action of water. It will not be found on the moon except as a small component of metal rich deposits.
legendary
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NASA could have known that there was water on the moon even before they landed a vehicle there, to search for water. After all, their rockets burn (oxygenize) hydrogen. The result is water. They could easily know that some of the rocket exhaust water landed on the moon.

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legendary
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It looks like water molecules will be the gold dust that humanity will use to jump around the universe in future. Combined with nuclear power the opportunities of finding more water in space will vastly increase the possibility for long distance travel in future. It's pretty fascinating stuff and makes me wonder if there will be other living organisms contained within this water - as it is one of the core and most basic ingredients for life.

water molecules is just a fuel. for the space cargo ships that ship the real gold and other precious minerals from other moons/planets/asteroids back to earth

they hope between 2030-2050 to have space mining for precious metals up and running with payload capacity of 150tonnes per trip. imagine it 150tonnes of gold entering the economy each time a space cargo ship re enters earths orbit in ~20 years

bye bye gold prices
legendary
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It looks like water molecules will be the gold dust that humanity will use to jump around the universe in future. Combined with nuclear power the opportunities of finding more water in space will vastly increase the possibility for long distance travel in future. It's pretty fascinating stuff and makes me wonder if there will be other living organisms contained within this water - as it is one of the core and most basic ingredients for life.
legendary
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what you will soon find inyour research is that they can actually measure substances below the surface.
yep satelites can actually see aquifers under the earths ground
speculators have already been using the tech to find gold/oil rich area's
ecologists have been looking at aquifer depletion over the last decade

this is why nasa said that the particles of h20 are not in any 'puddles' nor measures in square metres. but they found individual particles in cubic metres in measure that if drawn together is 12floz(under 360ml of volume) per cubic metre
if they were just talking about surface they would be suggesting metre square. not cubic

but anyways. the next hope is finding a process to 'frack' the area where they can crack the moonland and then using pressure of small amount of water to force the moons water particles to cohere to the mines source and accumilate.
like forcing particles to gasify, then turn to droplets to then turn to streams back to the mines main drill hole without losing anything to the moons atmosphere

they will be sending test drlils from now until 2022 and more before their next 'manned mission' in 2024. in the hope by the time they put peopl on the moon they would know forsure they can get to the water and acumilate it in a reasonable and efficient way for a viable mission and sustainability

elon will definetly make some good money being the taxi for these missions in the next 4 years
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Ok, they found water, but what does it say except for "there's water on the moon'?
legendary
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so to explain some of the science
every molecule emits a certain frequency of photons(certain colour of light) and knowing the exact colour of water means they can measure and monitor it.

they say they did not find any water in large blocks. definetly no underground lakes. no iceburgs, not even icecubes or puddles. ....
so i hope this can get some people to grasp the scale of whats needed to do to gather any reasonable amount to use for fuel/colonisation of the moon

These findings refer only to the sunlit areas. Areas in deep shadow do not radiate anything. Areas underground do not radiate spectra. So the new findings do not contradict the possibilities of large bodies of ice in the deep dark areas at the poles.

Sunlit areas are pretty much a constant -20F a couple of meters underground, so they certainly can support water. Except for sublimation, where ice turns directly to vapor. It's been believed that water vapor would quickly be stripped of one H from the solar wind, but these findings contradict that.

The vital finding here is the absolute certainty that the OH is H20. Previously it was just known to be some OH.
legendary
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so to explain some of the science
every molecule emits a certain frequency of photons(certain colour of light) and knowing the exact colour of water means they can measure and monitor it.

they say they did not find any water in large blocks. definetly no underground lakes. no iceburgs, not even icecubes or puddles. so they are learning they cannot just tap into an underground aquifer, but instead have to mine it like mining gold dust spread out throughout the land.

so this is not going to be a 'well' type of mining mission. but a 'gold digger' type of mining
this then makes them able to plan what kind of mining operation to design for water capture on the moon

so that stops any hope of just tapping into a well and just setting up shop in one location. but instead have to move around and tap into multiple locations like quarry mining

their next hope is not so much a well that just sucks up the water. but instead hopes they can sort of 'frack' it out of the moons ground thus not having to shift as much dirt to get it

the amount of it (if all could be captured)... is about a standard serving can of cocacola per cubic metre


so a 3cubic metre (27x1cubic metre) will only gather 9 litres(if all can be captured) which would only be enough for 3 persons fluid use a day (2litre drink/ 1litre hygiene per person)

so i hope this can get some people to grasp the scale of whats needed to do to gather any reasonable amount to use for fuel/colonisation of the moon
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https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

25 minutes until stream start. Dont miss and be to late to invest in ...... Whatever this announcement will be good for Smiley   Maybe they found Bitcoin on Moon.

So if you watched, or will watch the link above ^, the new discovery talks about that the water doesn't concentrate at one spot of the lunar, instead, they seem to justified that it is spread throughout the surface of the lunar. Also, they proved that the hydrogen detected in their previous discoveries is a water molecule and not just any other hydrogen-containing molecule. This is done by identifying the uniqueness of the chemical finger-print of the water molecule.
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https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

25 minutes until stream start. Dont miss and be to late to invest in ...... Whatever this announcement will be good for Smiley   Maybe they found Bitcoin on Moon.
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I'm guessing they found some sort of bacteria and are ready to claim "life on the moon" as a thing.  Likely it will be attributed to being from a water spout on earth and not very exciting, but you never know.
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NASA to Announce New Science Results About Moon

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-announce-new-science-results-about-moon


What will it be? Can 2020 give us a break? Can this be this the biggest 2020 event? Will it be positive or negative?

It would be interesting to find out what is that exciting new discovery which Nasa will share on 26th of October. I don't think it will be anything which can be a breaking news for the mankind but still any new discovery will be worth listening.

Someday, i am sure people will making houses there and living on the moon  Smiley
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Unless I completely misunderstood him (which I doubt), @nullius is making fun of the typical nonsense that you can read in this section.

Nooooo!  The so-called “Earth” does not exist; and the “Moon” was fabricated as a lie feeding a lie.  What is your motive for lying about this, Rikafip?  What are you, a CIA agent shilling for this psy-op!?  KEEP UP THE STANDARDS OF THE POLITICS & SOCIETY FORUM!!!

More seriously, I do hypothesize that much of the psychological motive for the “moon landing hoax” nonsense is discomfit over the history of Wernher von Braun, et al.  People believe what they want to believe.  “Seek, and thou shalt find” is an ill epistemology, and very popular.
I suppose it goes to show that either way, any which way, people tend to discover what they want to find, not what is actually there.



On topic:  I think that the pre-announcement is interesting, but perforce premature to discuss.  It caught my interest.  I will look forward to Monday!  Literally ‘Moon Day’, < O.E. mōnandæġ.  Unless there are any amateur philologists in the NASA press office, it is probably a coincidence; nonetheless, it is a poetic coincidence!
legendary
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the whole idea of artemis is to set up 'fuel stations' in space to then make asteroid/mars mission practical.
and to do that they need to get fuel from the moon to these space refulers at a cheaper/more effecient way than launching from earth.
otherwise they would just launch from earth and not bother with artemis projects.

NASA bother with Moon because one way travel to Mars last 7 months. To Moon it last only a day.  210 to 1 is a huge difference. It is very easy to get to Moon, but very hard to get to Mars. NASA cant afford failures with their Mars explorations, that is why they want to do a good training on easy to reach Moon.  Second reason is that China is going to Moon.
legendary
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Maybe they will finally reveal the big secret that moon is made of cheese.

The moon does not exist.  NASA will finally admit that they made the whole thing up.

There is NO evidence for the existence of the so-called “moon”.  All videos and photographs showing a “moon” have been faked on Hollywood sets.  Government-employed “astronomers” have written books and “scientific” papers purporting to prove the existence of the “moon”, as part of a psy-op to make you believe in the so-called “Earth”.

Prove me wrong.  

Hollywood has been spending countless $trillions of dollars. First they needed to build a time machine. Then they needed to go back in time to falsify all the documents that show that the moon existed back then... for thousands of years. But they couldn't do this until they built a "space transition machine" (a rocket)... because everything moves with time, so back in time here, isn't where the earth would have been back then.

The point isn't really the moon. The point is where they got all that money! The Federal Reserve Bank hired aliens to printed it.

 Cheesy
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This time NASA's Mars mission is part of a much bigger plan that is knowing and understanding how habitable Mars can become the Habitat of Mars. Trying to understand, whether people can go there because the red planet is far away from the moon the moon can go in three days it takes 6/7 months to go to Mars. The path is not very easy it is also trying to understand whether people have everything they need to stay on Mars for a few days.To bring humans back to Earth rockets have to be launched from the Red Planet.
legendary
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@nullius for every proof presented to you that moon does exists, you’ll be able to find proofs that it doesn’t exist, hence it’s very difficult to change your opinion about the moon.

Lastly in my personal opinion people should be free to follow any theory they believe in, till it doesn’t cause harm to the society and in this case it’s not causing harm to anyone so feel free to believe that moon doesn’t exist.
Unless I completely misunderstood him (which I doubt), @nullius is making fun of the typical nonsense that you can read in this section.

And its true, people are free to believe in any conspiracy theory they want, and we are free to ridicule those beliefs too Wink
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Maybe they will finally reveal the big secret that moon is made of cheese.

The moon does not exist.  NASA will finally admit that they made the whole thing up.

There is NO evidence for the existence of the so-called “moon”.  All videos and photographs showing a “moon” have been faked on Hollywood sets.  Government-employed “astronomers” have written books and “scientific” papers purporting to prove the existence of the “moon”, as part of a psy-op to make you believe in the so-called “Earth”.

Prove me wrong. 

@Febo it’ll be some sort of general announcement only, and they’re only hyping it up because they knew it would be ignored by the media due to the elections.

@nullius for every proof presented to you that moon does exists, you’ll be able to find proofs that it doesn’t exist, hence it’s very difficult to change your opinion about the moon.

Lastly in my personal opinion people should be free to follow any theory they believe in, till it doesn’t cause harm to the society and in this case it’s not causing harm to anyone so feel free to believe that moon doesn’t exist.

Sources:

https://phdn.org/archives/revisionism.nl/Moon/Moonphoto.htm (Conspiracy theory)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
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Maybe they will finally reveal the big secret that moon is made of cheese.

The moon does not exist.  NASA will finally admit that they made the whole thing up.

There is NO evidence for the existence of the so-called “moon”.  All videos and photographs showing a “moon” have been faked on Hollywood sets.  Government-employed “astronomers” have written books and “scientific” papers purporting to prove the existence of the “moon”, as part of a psy-op to make you believe in the so-called “Earth”.

Prove me wrong. 
legendary
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probably sofia found water on the moon..

Yes the participants shows that this announcement could be somehow related to water,

the whole idea of artemis is to set up 'fuel stations' in space to then make asteroid/mars mission practical.
and to do that they need to get fuel from the moon to these space refulers at a cheaper/more effecient way than launching from earth.
otherwise they would just launch from earth and not bother with artemis projects.

so ofcourse its about water and the moon mining

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NASA Publishes Artemis Plan to Land First Woman, Next Man on Moon in 2024. ... We're going back to the Moon for scientific discovery, economic benefits, and inspiration for a new a generation of explorers. As we build up a sustainable presence, we're also building momentum toward those first human steps on the Red Planet.”21 Sep 2020

you didnt really think SpaceX CSO/CEO elon was only using boring drills for californian road tunnels. nah that was a commercialised sandbox test for drills to then be used in space
legendary
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probably sofia found water on the moon..

Yes the participants shows that this announcement could be somehow related to water, but we cant be sure.  Maybe they will finally reveal the big secret that moon is made of cheese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_349WJ37lAA
legendary
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probably sofia found water on the moon..

Yes the participants shows that this announcement could be somehow related to water, but we cant be sure.  Maybe they will finally reveal the big secret that moon is made of cheese.
legendary
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Do you think it has anything to do with this? This is old news, of course. If they can get the phones up there, they can show us all kinds of fake news that is truly coming from the moon. Do it through Finland, so we will be sympathetic with a small country trying to make some moves.


NASA is launching a 4G phone network on the moon



It's one small step for phones, one giant leap for phonekind. NASA and Nokia are planning the first cellular network on the moon.

Finnish phone company Nokia has announced it's working with the US space administration to build a 4G LTE network for moonwalkers by late 2022. As well as voice communication and data transmission, the mobile network could power navigation, stream biometric data so controllers can keep an eye on each astronaut's health and fitness, and direct remote-control robots and sensors on the lunar surface.

It's a part of NASA's Artemis program, intended to establish a sustainable base on the lunar surface by 2028. Several companies have been contracted by NASA in deals adding up to more than $370 million.


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legendary
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probably sofia found water on the moon.. next up sending equipment up to mine the water and the convert it to fuel to then mine for other precious minerals either on the moon or nearby asteroids.

elons 'boring' machine will be first launched to the moon

and turn the moon into the gas station for space mining
legendary
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NASA to Announce New Science Results About Moon

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-announce-new-science-results-about-moon


What will it be? Can 2020 give us a break? Can this be this the biggest 2020 event? Will it be positive or negative?
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