Topic: [NavetteCapital] Investment Group | +6.18 % / month | Shortpocket Investment (Read 4407 times)

I think that Op left this building,even if he gets on.
Probably the best way is to open a scam accussation thread and tag his account.

Ofc this will not bring your BTC back but its something from the absolut nothing...

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try again, I guess you can be more lucky this time

no but still not get 0.11 BTC

Seems they are offline from January... you have make investment in these last months?

I wrote PM for 0.11 BTC but not respond.

Please send my BTC to 1HvjazurgPvoXU1qWKx5SdiQocpJNbLfHD

Well, I did add you on Skype, I think you forgot to reply to my messages

Anyway, we'd always be happy to accept new investors into the capital.

I tried PMing but have gotten no response.
I am interested in investing but would like more information. Having quite some experience in this sector as well as quite a capital, I could be quite an add to your community.
Regards.

I've added you and sent you messages on Skype? Like you asked me to
This was around 2 days ago

I have contacted you by PM and received no answer. I am interested in investing and would appreciate some questions answered before I hand over my bit.

Hey there, I just messaged you with your current balance with Navette Capital!

I don't post here often as I'm not as active in the forum as I was, but rest assured funds are still being managed accordingly!
Feel free to contact me through Skype or Email or through PM as we always have!

Regards,
JM Erestain

how things going on?

Right, I did that just now.

I didn't get to report Week 1 of month 3 because funds did not move up or down that week.
We have stopped Zero Cash Mining and we are holding the Steem due to the rise in prices!

We're waiting for a good return this week 2 though.

You may want to take the url out of the topic title than so people don't get confused

It's still valid. I'm talking to people through PMs and emails now, since the website never gained that much traffic.
The domain is still under my possession however, but I don't plan to open up the website again till we get bigger capital

Website says account suspended, is this no longer valid?

STEEM: 0.00146 BTC
ZCash Mining: 0.0015567 BTC

0.00146 + 0.0015567 BTC

Month 2 Fund: 0.3799 BTC

Profit = +0.79%

Month 2 Profit: +6.18%

This week's (and month's last) report will be delayed to tomorrow due to the fact that I am away from my computer and cannot use my 2FAs
to do the final trades on. Anyway, looks like we've had a good second month.

The next month will go back to margin lending again, due to the ZCash mining hype dying down.
However we will continue mining ZCash.

Regards,
JM Erestain

Month 2 Week 3

STEEM : + 0.00048459 BTC
ZCash Mining : + 0.00430556 BTC

= 0.00479015 BTC

Profit: +1.26%

MONTH 2 Weekly Report 2

ZCash Mining : +0.00889476 BTC
Steem : +0.00073029 BTC

Poloniex loan demands were too low so we didn't get to get a good one.
Still waiting on Iconomi and Ardor's long term potential.


= 0.00962505 BTC

0.00962505/0.3799 = 0.02533574624
Profit: +2.53%

Regards,
JM Erestain

Hey there

1.) Currently all is distributed as dividends

2.) I will simply sell STEEM to BTC and they will be sent as dividends as well.

3.) We have a 1 month lock in period, and then you can liquidate your investment 1:1 in 2 weeks (2 parts) wherein you will receive
half as much dividends as you would with full investment. (in other words yes, you will liquidate 1/2 every 2 weeks)

4.) Yes, you can simply tell me how you want me to manage your dividends

Regards,
JM Erestain

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MONTH 2 WEEK 1 REPORT

Poloniex Lending   ~0.0005 BTC
ZCash Mining   ~0.005 BTC
Steem Interest   ~0.0008 BTC
   
   
TOTAL:    0.00606 BTC
PROFIT: 1.57%

Thanks! That helped a lot.

Couple more questions, now...

1) Dividends are paid in BTC, correct? If so, how much of the increase in value do they encapsulate? Like let's say the value of investments in month 1 went up 3.4% (as reported). How much is paid out in dividends and how much is reinvested?

2) How do dividends affect things like Steem? Based on my understanding, the increase in value here would not be liquid, correct (as in held on the Steemit site)?

3) How can we liquidate our position within the investment? What are the rules for doing so?

4) Can we do DRIP (Dividend ReInvestment Program) instead of taking dividends?

I've sent you the list through PM just now.

Can you make the spreadsheet that lists investors public? Or even send in a PM if needed? There are four separate numbers given out in this thread now:

1) The latest report you gave
2) The addition of Cryptomerian's investment
3) The current investment breakdown on first post
4) The actual total funds on first post

This would be a great help in deciding what to do.

Hey guys! We just want to report that we've lived up to our motto of following the innovations of tomorrow.
We've moved our small mining hardware to mine ZCash early, and we got great returns still stacking up till the end of the week!

Will be making our weekly report Monday.

WEEKLY REPORT 4:
Steem: +0.00093597 BTC
Mining VM: +0.000823 BTC

+ 0.00175897 BTC
+0.636%(0.006363636364)

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MONTH 1 STATEMENT:
Capital: 0.275 BTC
End: 0.28437 BTC

1.03410073449
Profit: 3.4%

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UPDATE:

We've received investments from Cryptomerian Investment Fund
And we welcome them to the family!

OP Updated

Regards,
JM Erestain

13GwW8uBAGLNfXwDNpYfU9oZurnQkWreY7

This Bitcoin address is where NCG will receive its funds in Bitcoin.

The bitcoins will not be stored here permanently, but will be used to monitor
investor activity.

For Investors (Both now and in the future)
Join Slack! Send me your email through PM

Regards,
JM Erestain

please share your bitcoin addresss for fund. we will give a shot...

We've created a Slack channel for Navette Capital investors.
We accept investments in Bitcoin currently and soon, using the ICONOMI platform.

You can invest in Bitcoin. I can manage the fund using simple Excel sheets as I've heard Counterparty has problems with speed and liquidity

we would like to give a shot in behalf of Cryptomerian. so we need to open an account on Counterparty and buy tokens from there.

WEEKLY REPORT:
Steem: +0.001101684 BTC
XMR Mining VM: +0.00054722 BTC
Iconomi: Pending


+0.001647 BTC
+0.6%

No no, we will be using https://iconomi.net platform
It's a smart application and smart token made in the Ethereum blockchain.

It's centered on fund management

You're creating a new, custom one? Like in the website itself? If so, will there be a way to liquidate shares as well? A big issue with the current setup is there's no way to exit. Unless others are investing, current investors would be locked in for the long haul no matter what.

Instead of using NXT/XCP

We will be using the Iconomi fund management platform which is currently in the making.
We hope you will invest in us soon!

Regards,
JM Erestain

WEEK 2 Report

Steem: +0.00145342 BTC
Mining VM: +0.000341 BTC
Iconomi: Pending
Ardor: Pending

WEEK 2 Profit:
+0.00179442 BTC
FUND: 100.652%

Yes that is correct, you have the option to reinvest your earnings or claim it from dividends.

so basically it will still depend on how the investors shared which means while inside this project the capital itself will still go back to reinvest and it will be depend to investors if they want to reinvest what they gained from it? just curious because is seen good possibility with your knowledge im looking for this kind of investment too.

No, they're not. The profit I made alone went to reinvestment. If they had invested 0.275 BTC they would get dividends depending on how much share they have in the fund.
The rest will go back to reinvestment

Are current dividends shared relative to ownership of currently owned shares? Like you're looking to raise 30 BTC, but have 0.275. If someone invested 0.275 would they get 50% of those dividends?

We've exchanged 0.005 BTC into ~ 250 NXT to participate in the distribution of Ardor:
https://www.ardorplatform.org/

Its promising team and concept of a more user-centric version of side-chains, their child-chains
are seem to be a lot better to work with both as a user and a developer.

Personally I might be developing fin-tech with this, and I can see myself doing so in the future.

Regards,
JM Erestain

I'll put some thought into this, We might switch to NXT.

I didn't bother posting the dividends as I'm the only one receiving dividends in Bitcoin.. We're only 3 investors so far and I convert the bitcoin we earn into Philippine Pesos for them

I've historically been against any of these third-parties, solely because the transaction volume is low on most and brings about yet another failure point: Fiat, BTC, the alt for the blockchain, then your business itself. It significantly increases risk.

NXT is likely a better platform, though, just because it's more widely used and has a lot more volume (meaning an entry/exit into the blockchain's native currency -- in this case NXT -- is not going to destroy the price).

Also, it looks like no dividends went out this week? How often are they supposed to go out?

WEEKLY REPORT:
Steem: +0.00201684 BTC
XMR Mining VM: +0.0019801 BTC
Iconomi: Pending

Net: +101.48%

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XCP is very close with Bitcoin and has a much easier means to manage the trade.. I can always make a vote and we can transfer somewhere else entirely.
I would ask though, where would you suggest for us to be on? NXT?

Why would you launch something like this on XCP? Their volume is horrifying, at best, and with a new asset, you have little volume. You're compounding the issue, creating a very illiquid investment opportunity. Making an exit from this would be painful and expensive.

Thank you for feedback. I'm actually going to work on the things you mentioned.
Raising the price to $ 0.2 to make a total of $20,000 or

I'm sure that this is now enough to make enough gains and get a big stake on key investments, and at the same time
will not dilute the equity of early investors. Sorry for my foolishness.

2.) I am working on this now, will release this around next next week.

3.) I will be actively investing in new opportunities, but of course will also be looking into
more passive means of profit.

4.) First of all, I'd like to spread out the fund in different instruments so we can make sure that we have a diverse portfolio
and the risk of losing that much from any single instrument is manageable. We'll be looking into the long term, and bringing
only established assets. I'm looking into things like Cryptocurrencies with POS, Bitcoin financial services, margin lending.

5.) I will be using Poloniex as my platform for margin lending. They're both 2FA secured and are established companies.
I have a powerful machine running - perfect for staking coins. As for Steem in the portfolio, it gains 0.4939% per day in STEEM Power, and
returns 2.8 STEEM per week.

6.) They get yield through dividends distributed using the Counterparty token system (Our Token: NCGSHARE)

7.) Lockup period is 1 month

8.) I am JM Erestain, and helping with management is Joshua Bacud. Both Joshua and I have
managed our own money for quite some time, following the Philippine stock market. Apart from that I'm
being mentored by Howie Ross Valino, a veteran in fund management in the Netherlands.

Howie Valino: https://angel.co/howros

If you want a more in depth conversation with me, feel free to invite me into a real time chat.

Regards,
JM Erestain

So let me get this straight, you're going to further dilute the equity shares of early investors by later adding more shares? No thanks.

I commend you trying to do something unique in this field, and you've got to start somewhere, but from my perspective (as someone from the hedgefund/investment world) you need to do some more work on structuring this better if you want people to invest.

1 ) Put more skin in the game, 10btc is a rounding error to a lot of big investors.
2 ) Release a whitepaper or executive summary.
3 ) Explain your investment process: active or passive; discretionary or systematic?
4 ) Explain your risk management methods
5 ) How do you plan to manage the assets, do you have a proprietary platform for safely securing your holdings?
6 ) Do investors get yield through dividends or through capital appreciation, or both?
7 ) Whats' the lockup/redemption period?
8 ) What are the credentials of those managing these assets? CV or proof of experience would be helpful.

Cheers, goodluck with your venture

You can now buy NCGSHAREs for 0.011 XCP on the CounterParty Decentralized Exchange!
Total of 20,000 NCGSHAREs put up on the DEX

Cap of 220 XCP

We will post our weekly report starting next week:
October 4, 2016

Regards,
JM Erestain

My mistake, I'm not particular with names. I'll make the changes to the OP now

10 BTC isn't enough to make an investment in just about any company. A private equity firm invests in private companies. If you intend to trade / speculate on alt-coins that is not a private equity fund but rather an investment fund (more like a hedge fund).

Yes, initially. We plan to issue more shares after we start getting data from the instruments so we don't get ahead of ourselves.

Are you seriously trying to start a private equity group with just 10 BTC in capital?

INTRODUCTION



Hello BitcoinTalk, it's me JM Erestain representing the Navette Capital Group.
We are a growing private investment fund based in the Philippines, and we are inviting investors from BitcoinTalk, and all over the world.

http://navettecapital.com
^{Currently Under Construction}

I am personally a jack of all trades, but mostly, I am a designer, marketing agent and a innovations enthusiast. Aren't we all?
Our goal in Navette Capital is not only to profit all-together, but to profit whilst driving innovation. We aren't just the
old-school investment fund shelling out money here and there. We know innovation. We are driven by it. We follow the news
and developments of new technologies, new crypto-currencies and applications that have the potential to disrupt the broken system that is life.

What is Navette?

~ Navette means transport and diamond in french, and we chose the word Navette to represent the organization because
we want to transport profit and innovation.

INVEST IN NAVETTE CAPITAL GROUP



How? You can invest in us using our CounterParty token NCGSHARE

NCGSHARE - Total: 100,000 - 0.001% share of Navette Capital Group ea.
https://blockscan.com/assetInfo/NCGSHARE

Before ICONOMI releases, you can invest in us using Bitcoin, which will be maintained in a ledger by Emerge

Release Price Per Share ($0.2) :

Minimum Investment:

Total Fund: 0.3799 BTC

Portfolio:
Iconomi - 0.05 BTC
Steem - 0.22 BTC
Ardor - 0.005 BTC
AWS Mining for EQHash - ~0.10 BTC


Month 1 Weekly Summary:
Week 1 Profit: +1.48%
Week 2 Profit: +0.65%
Week 3 Profit: +0.61%
Week 4 Profit: +0.64%

Month 2 Weekly Summary:
Week 1 Profit: +1.57%
Week 2 Profit: +2.53%
Week 3 Profit: +1.26%
Week 4 Profit: +0.79%