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May 10, 2015, 01:48:01 AM
#74
There is a screenshot that shows a PM from the OP saying he is not going to repay the loan. The address that Zazarb claims the OP had Zazarb send to reflects that the OP is an alt of puzzel.me so he will be labeled a scammer one way or another.

The OPs posts in the signature campaign thread reflects that he doesn't want neotox to receive any funds at all, likely because neotox essentially has caused the account to be revealed as a sold account and eventually as an alt of puzzel.me

I think puzzel.me bought this account and the money he scammed from this account doesn't add up to the account's value.

I saw the pic. In it, he said "I am not interested in paying you anymore as I don't have enough money right now". So I think he might pay on or before May 15 but after you said he removed sig, I don't think he will pay.

I will wait till 15th, I am finding his real name,address and other info

he still have chance to save his 0.8btc worth account by repaying 0.25btc loan
after all the money he owes paid, he can sell the account easily for that amount

I guess he can't sell his account for 0.8BTC because like Quickseller said, he will get negative trust feedback as he is alt of puzzel.me.
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May 10, 2015, 01:35:46 AM
#73
you are talking about this?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11327383

first have a look at user's negative trust, he was trying to sell his account on 8th may
I posted that post after he tried to sell his account, and IMO there was nothing wrong to post this after he was attempted to sell his account
then how you can say that he was going to repay from signature payment when he was selling his account

I did and I meant that raised doubts are just more reasons for the "guy" to disappear.
He/she may repay the loan and then try to take as much BTC as he/she can. Otherwise - I feel you.
I hope that this will end good for both sides.
I will wait till 15th, I am finding his real name,address and other info

he still have chance to save his 0.8btc worth account by repaying 0.25btc loan
after all the money he owes paid, he can sell the account easily for that amount
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May 10, 2015, 01:29:12 AM
#72
you are talking about this?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11327383

first have a look at user's negative trust, he was trying to sell his account on 8th may
I posted that post after he tried to sell his account, and IMO there was nothing wrong to post this after he was attempted to sell his account
then how you can say that he was going to repay from signature payment when he was selling his account

I did and I meant that raised doubts are just more reasons for the "guy" to disappear.
He/she may repay the loan and then try to take as much BTC as he/she can. Otherwise - I feel you.
I hope that this will end good for both sides.
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May 10, 2015, 01:17:13 AM
#71
Guys,

I am recently following this section of the forum and of course - this thread.
IMHO concerns of Neotox should come before giving the loan, not after Vod gave a "signal" that this is probably a scam.
Now the result is:

1. He/she who received the loan have lost the chance to earn some BTC (from some campaign), which he/she was supposed to use to repay the loan.
2. Many doubts from different users started to appear.

My opinion is that despite the fact that he/she is most likely a scammer, Neotox shouldn't do this. This is a 3rd party agreement and I don't think it has anything to do with the loan here, even if Operatr's intentions were to scam both sides.

Terms of the loan are amount BTC, no collateral and term until 15.05.. There are still 5 days left and I think it's better to wait until term is reached, than raising more doubts.
you are talking about this?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11327383

first have a look at user's negative trust, he was trying to sell his account on 8th may
I posted that post after he tried to sell his account, and IMO there was nothing wrong to post this after he was attempted to sell his account
then how you can say that he was going to repay from signature payment when he was selling his account
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May 10, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
#70
Guys,

I am recently following this section of the forum and of course - this thread.
IMHO concerns of Neotox should come before giving the loan, not after Vod gave a "signal" that this is probably a scam.
Now the result is:

1. He/she who received the loan have lost the chance to earn some BTC (from some campaign), which he/she was supposed to use to repay the loan.
2. Many doubts from different users started to appear.

My opinion is that despite the fact that he/she is most likely a scammer, Neotox shouldn't do this. This is a 3rd party agreement and I don't think it has anything to do with the loan here, even if Operatr's intentions were to scam both sides.

Terms of the loan are amount BTC, no collateral and term until 15.05.. There are still 5 days left and I think it's better to wait until term is reached, than raising more doubts.
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May 10, 2015, 12:48:37 AM
#69
Well the OP has already said that he is not going to repay this loan and he scammed someone else. He is even going as far as trying to prevent neotox from receiving anything at all by removing his paid signature was it was revealed that the campaign manager was going to divert signature earnings.

I think that it is pretty clear the OP is a loan scammer regardless of if he officially defaulted yet or not.

He said he doesn't have money right now, so let's see whether he will pay on 15th. The account is probably hacked as he can't provide a signed message and the amount he scammed from Zazarb and this is lower than the account's value.

I don't understand why he removed signature. Neotex could have got some bitcoins, now nobody gets it and site got free advertisement.
There is a screenshot that shows a PM from the OP saying he is not going to repay the loan. The address that Zazarb claims the OP had Zazarb send to reflects that the OP is an alt of puzzel.me so he will be labeled a scammer one way or another.

The OPs posts in the signature campaign thread reflects that he doesn't want neotox to receive any funds at all, likely because neotox essentially has caused the account to be revealed as a sold account and eventually as an alt of puzzel.me
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May 10, 2015, 12:36:39 AM
#68
Well the OP has already said that he is not going to repay this loan and he scammed someone else. He is even going as far as trying to prevent neotox from receiving anything at all by removing his paid signature was it was revealed that the campaign manager was going to divert signature earnings.

I think that it is pretty clear the OP is a loan scammer regardless of if he officially defaulted yet or not.

He said he doesn't have money right now, so let's see whether he will pay on 15th. The account is probably hacked as he can't provide a signed message and the amount he scammed from Zazarb and this is lower than the account's value.

I don't understand why he removed signature. Neotex could have got some bitcoins, now nobody gets it and site got free advertisement.
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May 10, 2015, 12:28:32 AM
#67
Well the OP has already said that he is not going to repay this loan and he scammed someone else. He is even going as far as trying to prevent neotox from receiving anything at all by removing his paid signature was it was revealed that the campaign manager was going to divert signature earnings.

I think that it is pretty clear the OP is a loan scammer regardless of if he officially defaulted yet or not.
Vod
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May 09, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
#66
IMHO the initial terms should be followed and we should wait till 15th to tell he is a loan scammer or not.


I agree.  One party cannot unilaterally change the terms of an agreement after it has been accepted by both parties.
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May 09, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
#65
Exactly, but he should give the account before receive the loan. However you can still provide its to a trusted escrow

IMHO the initial terms should be followed and we should wait till 15th to tell he is a loan scammer or not.

and post from the one of the other two (you have said that you own other two Hero forum accounts).

It is possible that that account will get negative feedback. He may want to avoid it.
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May 09, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
#64
You can give your account as guarantee that you will pay on 15/05 & get your account back on 15

Exactly, but he should give the account before receive the loan. However you can still provide its to a trusted escrow and post from the one of the other two (you have said that you own other two Hero forum accounts).
IMO , he can do that now without any problem, third party trusted escrow will hold that account and after he repay his account will restored,he can make a newbie account to post from if he don't feel safe sharing other 2 hero accounts

Man, think yourself, for just a small amount of money you're selling your soul.why you want to become and called a scammer when you have an easy choice to give their money back
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May 09, 2015, 10:57:14 AM
#63
Ok do one thing, Make Me Red  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes I have gone crazy because of all this  Embarrassed
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May 09, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
#62
You can give your account as guarantee that you will pay on 15/05 & get your account back on 15

Exactly, but he should give the account before receive the loan. However you can still provide its to a trusted escrow and post from the one of the other two (you have said that you own other two Hero forum accounts).
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May 09, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
#61
You can give your account as guarantee that you will pay on 15/05 & get your account back on 15
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May 09, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
#60
I am not rony Sad I even don't know who Rony is.
I just sent those 0.25 to a person from whom I bought services. I don't know if he was rony. It seems he further sent those btc to someone called rony.

I think it is better for you to 'recount' or tell all the complete story, only in this way you can save your reputation. What service have you bought from him? What is the owner of this address 1D2qk68iuVVp46QMK2wwYYPz6u3GXzQ1qN ?

I bought a domain, a vps server and a hosting. I don't personally know the owner of that address.


WTF is this ?








It seems you will not repay Neotox and it is a shame...

He wants me to repay now but I cant repay before 15th.
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 10:39:22 AM
#59
I am not rony Sad I even don't know who Rony is.
I just sent those 0.25 to a person from whom I bought services. I don't know if he was rony. It seems he further sent those btc to someone called rony.

I think it is better for you to 'recount' or tell all the complete story, only in this way you can save your reputation. What service have you bought from him? What is the owner of this address 1D2qk68iuVVp46QMK2wwYYPz6u3GXzQ1qN ?

I bought a domain, a vps server and a hosting. I don't personally know the owner of that address.


WTF is this ?








It seems you will not repay Neotox and it is a shame...
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May 09, 2015, 10:35:38 AM
#58
I am not rony Sad I even don't know who Rony is.
I just sent those 0.25 to a person from whom I bought services. I don't know if he was rony. It seems he further sent those btc to someone called rony.

I think it is better for you to 'recount' or tell all the complete story, only in this way you can save your reputation. What service have you bought from him? What is the owner of this address 1D2qk68iuVVp46QMK2wwYYPz6u3GXzQ1qN ?

I bought a domain, a vps server and a hosting. I don't personally know the owner of that address.
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
#57
I am not rony Sad I even don't know who Rony is.
I just sent those 0.25 to a person from whom I bought services. I don't know if he was rony. It seems he further sent those btc to someone called rony.

I think it is better for you to 'recount' or tell all the complete story, only in this way you can save your reputation. What service have you bought from him? What is the owner of this address 1D2qk68iuVVp46QMK2wwYYPz6u3GXzQ1qN ?
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May 09, 2015, 10:28:07 AM
#56
I am not rony Sad I even don't know who Rony is.
I just sent those 0.25 to a person from whom I bought services. I don't know if he was rony. It seems he further sent those btc to someone called rony.
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 05:39:08 AM
#55
Now I think I know why he returned the 0.035 BTC loan so fast. Probably used to gamble on dices, and won.



I am thinking the same, when I have lent him those .035 bitcoin he ha repaid me in ~1 hours. When he received the btc he sent these two transaction:

- https://blockchain.info/it/tx/9c95fe82b1d3855bd19cf8520825ffebb1cce35ec79c96eedcb7ae7a417d62ba
- https://blockchain.info/it/tx/4cc30e6fd929de70b8c7200c95b133638df60f5be209d60388ddd81ae2570d86


and received this one:

- https://blockchain.info/it/tx/11268853cef251899a719e76e1dd7da3fddc8212d5c45cb5affb4b47262aec7c
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May 09, 2015, 05:33:58 AM
#54
Now I think I know why he returned the 0.035 BTC loan so fast. Probably used to gamble on dices, and won.

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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 05:24:57 AM
#52
looks like he is trying to sell his account to repay the loan and I think its ok as long as escrow repay the loan first before sending him any money.buyer is aware of pending loan on this account.

I hope he will repay the loan, good luck and when someone ask a lot of 'loan' in a short time ... then in this case there is something wrong.




Anyone that uses their head knows, and I mean anyone. Opertar said how they really 'needed' the funds badly and then they send it to a known scammer? No they are the scammer and probably the most stupid I have come across. The next step will be Operatr pming Neo saying give me 0.2-0.3 and I will give you the account, or maybe I am wrong but let us know please Neo, hope you get something back mate.
he say me that lost the coins gambling...

Really, can you post the conversation (if it is not a problem)?
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May 09, 2015, 05:22:57 AM
#51

Anyone that uses their head knows, and I mean anyone. Opertar said how they really 'needed' the funds badly and then they send it to a known scammer? No they are the scammer and probably the most stupid I have come across. The next step will be Operatr pming Neo saying give me 0.2-0.3 and I will give you the account, or maybe I am wrong but let us know please Neo, hope you get something back mate.
he say me that lost the coins gambling...
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May 09, 2015, 05:21:47 AM
#50
looks like he is trying to sell his account to repay the loan and I think its ok as long as escrow repay the loan first before sending him any money.buyer is aware of pending loan on this account.
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 04:53:45 AM
#49

Anyone that uses their head knows, and I mean anyone. Opertar said how they really 'needed' the funds badly and then they send it to a known scammer? No they are the scammer and probably the most stupid I have come across. The next step will be Operatr pming Neo saying give me 0.2-0.3 and I will give you the account, or maybe I am wrong but let us know please Neo, hope you get something back mate.

He also asked me to give him a positive feedback after the repayment of the loan (quicly) .... in the same way of rony_90. However @Operatr we are still waiting the signed message Wink and I hope that all this story will not turn in a completely scam.
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May 09, 2015, 04:50:56 AM
#48

Anyone that uses their head knows, and I mean anyone. Opertar said how they really 'needed' the funds badly and then they send it to a known scammer? No they are the scammer and probably the most stupid I have come across. The next step will be Operatr pming Neo saying give me 0.2-0.3 and I will give you the account, or maybe I am wrong but let us know please Neo, hope you get something back mate.
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May 09, 2015, 03:42:39 AM
#43
for reference and to make sure that he will not edit that post


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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 03:37:32 AM
#42
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
yes I am forcing you to repay now because you tried to scam me and others
I don't have any trust on you,I think you are trying to get as much money as possible with this account

if you are a legit user why don't you sign a message

I think (maybe) it should be respected the initial loan terms, but without any collateral it is not simple. However I think the Operatr  account was sold to another 'person' and he can't sign a bitcoin message from that address (it is only my personal supposition).

I will try providing signed message once I get back home. Give me address which I need to sign

here you go ==>

can you sign a message from a bitcoin address posted in atleast 6 month unedited post and prove that your are the owner of this account and its not hacked

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti

Yes, remember to include also the date in this format  day/month/year . We are waiting the message, and I hope to 'read' it as soon as possible Wink. For reference:

- https://archive.is/XxQlW
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May 09, 2015, 03:35:19 AM
#41
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
yes I am forcing you to repay now because you tried to scam me and others
I don't have any trust on you,I think you are trying to get as much money as possible with this account

if you are a legit user why don't you sign a message

I think (maybe) it should be respected the initial loan terms, but without any collateral it is not simple. However I think the Operatr  account was sold to another 'person' and he can't sign a bitcoin message from that address (it is only my personal supposition).

I will try providing signed message once I get back home. Give me address which I need to sign

here you go ==>

can you sign a message from a bitcoin address posted in atleast 6 month unedited post and prove that your are the owner of this account and its not hacked

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti
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May 09, 2015, 03:31:19 AM
#40
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
yes I am forcing you to repay now because you tried to scam me and others
I don't have any trust on you,I think you are trying to get as much money as possible with this account

if you are a legit user why don't you sign a message

I think (maybe) it should be respected the initial loan terms, but without any collateral it is not simple. However I think the Operatr  account was sold to another 'person' and he can't sign a bitcoin message from that address (it is only my personal supposition).

I will try providing signed message once I get back home. Give me address which I need to sign
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May 09, 2015, 03:30:32 AM
#39
Last night he agreed to give his account as collateral to quickseller and then he stopped replying to group message
I respect loan terms but only when users is legit, and this guy doesn't seems a trusted user

When i given you loan I didn't asked for collateral but later i found that you was trying to scam and sell this account so I want a collateral now, or repay the loan

I felt it better to talk to Quickseller personally rather than talking in group message. I am fine with red trust till I repay this loan but sorry I can't give account as collateral as I have to talk to my contacts through this account.
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May 09, 2015, 03:26:59 AM
#38
Last night he agreed to give his account as collateral to quickseller and then he stopped replying to group message
I respect loan terms but only when users is legit, and this guy doesn't seems a trusted user

When i given you loan I didn't asked for collateral but later i found that you was trying to scam and sell this account so I want a collateral now, or repay the loan
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 03:24:25 AM
#37
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
yes I am forcing you to repay now because you tried to scam me and others
I don't have any trust on you,I think you are trying to get as much money as possible with this account

if you are a legit user why don't you sign a message

I think (maybe) it should be respected the initial loan terms, but without any collateral it is not simple. However I think the Operatr  account was sold to another 'person' and he can't sign a bitcoin message from that address (it is only my personal supposition).
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May 09, 2015, 03:22:21 AM
#36
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
yes I am forcing you to repay now because you tried to scam me and others
I don't have any trust on you,I think you are trying to get as much money as possible with this account

if you are a legit user why don't you sign a message
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May 09, 2015, 03:17:19 AM
#35
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.

Neotox is forcing me to pay the loan back now, I have reduced the term to 15th but he is blackmailing me. How can I repay now if I don't have money. He even stopped that sig. campaign payment. If I get those it would be easier for me to repay.
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#Free market
May 09, 2015, 02:46:59 AM
#34
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.

Interesting story, if he will scam you for only 0.25 btc I'm sure he will win the 2015 scammer award! Keep us informed Wink, thanks.
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May 09, 2015, 01:36:40 AM
#33
Operatr has pending payment from CREDIT signature campaign.

I've talked with campaign manager and he said that he will put Operatr's payment on hold until this issue is resolved.
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May 08, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
#32
lol why everyone thinks I am a scammer? I would have rather sold my account to get much more than scamming for 0.25 BTC.
Will you guys forgive me? I will repay loan asap. Sad
I would rather not request for a loan ever again, this one has gone to different heights

I don't think you are a scammer.  There were some red flags raised, that's all.

Once you repay your loan, I'm sure QS will remove your negative trust - you'll be fine, don't worry.  Smiley

And I never said publicly am a female, so its not done deliberately so as to scam as said by Vod.

Sure you did - you put it in your public profile.  Smiley


maybe he bought the account and forgot to change details?
Vod
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May 08, 2015, 06:16:13 PM
#31
lol why everyone thinks I am a scammer? I would have rather sold my account to get much more than scamming for 0.25 BTC.
Will you guys forgive me? I will repay loan asap. Sad
I would rather not request for a loan ever again, this one has gone to different heights

I don't think you are a scammer.  There were some red flags raised, that's all.

Once you repay your loan, I'm sure QS will remove your negative trust - you'll be fine, don't worry.  Smiley

And I never said publicly am a female, so its not done deliberately so as to scam as said by Vod.

Sure you did - you put it in your public profile.  Smiley
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May 08, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
#30
it has an obligation also me , I wait repay 0.144btc from morning Angry
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May 08, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
#29
lol why everyone thinks I am a scammer? I would have rather sold my account to get much more than scamming for 0.25 BTC.
Will you guys forgive me? I will repay loan asap. Sad
I would rather not request for a loan ever again, this one has gone to different heights

Only a few question,  the rule no collateral no loan is not a forum rule but a good 'habit'. I do not think you will ruin your reputation for 0.25 bitcoin, but who knows....

 Embarrassed I have nothing much to be said other than repay this loon as soon as possible. I am sorry for taking No Collateral Loan and Doing A Bad Habit  Tongue

This post is getting converted to a Meta post, so shall I move it?
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May 08, 2015, 12:47:24 PM
#28
lol why everyone thinks I am a scammer? I would have rather sold my account to get much more than scamming for 0.25 BTC.
Will you guys forgive me? I will repay loan asap. Sad
I would rather not request for a loan ever again, this one has gone to different heights

Only a few question,  the rule no collateral no loan is not a forum rule but a good 'habit'. I do not think you will ruin your reputation for 0.25 bitcoin, but who knows....
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May 08, 2015, 12:46:07 PM
#27
lol why everyone thinks I am a scammer? I would have rather sold my account to get much more than scamming for 0.25 BTC.
Will you guys forgive me? I will repay loan asap. Sad
I would rather not request for a loan ever again, this one has gone to different heights
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May 08, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
#26
Sorry for locking. I was pissed off. I have unlocked it now for further discussion.
I talked to Neotox too and he said that I shall rather give him this account for collateral.
I am happy to give the account for collateral but I have a pending deal on this account which will complete tomorrow. So can I put this account as collateral on Sunday to be on a safer side?
Giving your account as collateral was not a term of the loan and I don't see any reason to think that the loan should be re-neogeoiated as of now. Neutux should have asked for a signed message from you confirming the terms of the loan prior to funding it (and should get one prior to taking any account as collateral to avoid any claims of hacked accounts).

I think the most fair thing to do would be to try to find an old address that you have previously posted and sign a message confirming the specific terms of the loan. This would likely give him a little bit of piece of mind and IMO would be the most fair thing to do.
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May 08, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
#25
Sorry for locking. I was pissed off. I have unlocked it now for further discussion.
I talked to Neotox too and he said that I shall rather give him this account for collateral.
I am happy to give the account for collateral but I have a pending deal on this account which will complete tomorrow. So can I put this account as collateral on Sunday to be on a safer side?
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May 08, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
#24
Forgot to add,

Repayment address: 1AK7oAdLSuiYri6GNhBZXWF8LXVBbxcznn

Why nobody quoted the neotox's post  Roll Eyes, it is only for a security reason. However the OP seems suspicious, good luck to everybody (it is your personal choice to give him a loan without a valid collateral //  0.25 bitcoin is a good sum).


Why you are not replying to this topic, can you sign a message from address posted in that post?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti

I am interested to 'see' a signed message from that address.

Sorry but am not able to find that address in my wallet. I guess its my LBC's address. Also, dont worry I will pay back before given term.
If I fail you can destroy my account or I will give my account happily to Neotox.
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#Free market
May 08, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
#23
Forgot to add,

Repayment address: 1AK7oAdLSuiYri6GNhBZXWF8LXVBbxcznn

Why nobody quoted the neotox's post  Roll Eyes, it is only for a security reason. However the OP seems suspicious, good luck to everybody (it is your personal choice to give him a loan without a valid collateral //  0.25 bitcoin is a good sum).


Why you are not replying to this topic, can you sign a message from address posted in that post?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti

I am interested to 'see' a signed message from that address.
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May 08, 2015, 11:58:06 AM
#22
I have seen sending dozens of BTC in preorder for some unnamed strangers to China..here on this forum..Smiley
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May 08, 2015, 11:31:20 AM
#21
If OP tried to scam 0.25 btc then he is fool
his account is worth much more then that, he could easily sell it for 3x of the loan amount
If it was a hacked account, OP can't sign message from old btc address he/she has posted. No body willing to buy an account without proof of ownership.
i have seen people buying hero accounts for 0.5 or more without signed message

I have seen a hero account getting sold for 0.75 BTC without a signed message.
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May 08, 2015, 11:21:44 AM
#20
Why you are not replying to this topic, can you sign a message from address posted in that post?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti
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May 08, 2015, 10:54:32 AM
#19
can you sign a message from a bitcoin address posted in atleast 6 month unedited post and prove that your are the owner of this account and its not hacked

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10519756

1LQoMuxJDWixrFmsSJKhJ682d47q7yMti
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May 08, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
#18
if you are a legit user then why don't you give your account for collateral for loan
it will prove that you intent to repay his loan

I need my account for contacting people and sig. campaign and other works. Also, If I was to scam him, I would have given my account as collateral and taken a bigger loan or I would have just sold my account for 1 BTC.
If someone scams for 0.25 BTC with a Hero Member account he/she shall shoot himself/herself.
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May 08, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
#17
if you are a legit user then why don't you give your account for collateral for loan
it will prove that you intent to repay his loan
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May 08, 2015, 10:34:08 AM
#16
I am not a scammer or a hacker. I will repay the loan as stated.
And I never said publicly am a female, so its not done deliberately so as to scam as said by Vod.

Edit :- I even have my personal life to take care of and can't stay online 24/7 so whoever said I went offline after taking loan and this was attempt to scam, please stop saying just anything Sad
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May 08, 2015, 08:26:05 AM
#15
If OP tried to scam 0.25 btc then he is fool
his account is worth much more then that, he could easily sell it for 3x of the loan amount
If it was a hacked account, OP can't sign message from old btc address he/she has posted. No body willing to buy an account without proof of ownership.
i have seen people buying hero accounts for 0.5 or more without signed message
Maybe the owner of those accounts never posted btc addresses.
If the owner has posted btc addresses before it will be so risky, sellers can claim their accounts got hacked after they received payment.
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May 08, 2015, 07:59:57 AM
#14
If OP tried to scam 0.25 btc then he is fool
his account is worth much more then that, he could easily sell it for 3x of the loan amount
If it was a hacked account, OP can't sign message from old btc address he/she has posted. No body willing to buy an account without proof of ownership.
i have seen people buying hero accounts for 0.5 or more without signed message
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May 08, 2015, 07:52:16 AM
#13
If OP tried to scam 0.25 btc then he is fool
his account is worth much more then that, he could easily sell it for 3x of the loan amount
If it was a hacked account, OP can't sign message from old btc address he/she has posted. No body willing to buy an account without proof of ownership.
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May 08, 2015, 07:34:46 AM
#12
If OP tried to scam 0.25 btc then he is fool
his account is worth much more then that, he could easily sell it for 3x of the loan amount
Vod
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May 08, 2015, 07:28:40 AM
#10
It would probably be a better idea to get a signed message from the OP confirming ownership of the account and documenting the terms of the loan. This will prevent any future claims that his account was hacked or that the terms of the loan were not agreed to.

Anyone considering to lend (or otherwise do business with) to the OP should search the lending section for any open loans if they are going to sufficiently protect themselves so having the personal text say there is an open loan is a moot point IMO
Vod
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May 08, 2015, 04:52:00 AM
#9
And I don't think he will take a risk of negative trust when his account is worth much more then loan amount.

Just FYI, Operatr lists herself as a female.   Wink
oh, i just come to know
btw then you can change "he" to "she" and "his" to "her", everything else seems good Smiley

but trust me,Still I won't send big money without collateral Smiley

That's good, because pretending to be female is one of the ways people scam!   Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-how-to-spot-a-scammer-read-this-before-doing-any-transactions-137288
Number 8.   
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May 08, 2015, 04:49:47 AM
#8
And I don't think he will take a risk of negative trust when his account is worth much more then loan amount.

Just FYI, Operatr lists herself as a female.   Wink
oh, i just come to know
btw then you can change "he" to "she" and "his" to "her", everything else seems good Smiley

but trust me,Still I won't send big money without collateral Smiley
Vod
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May 08, 2015, 04:39:25 AM
#7
And I don't think he will take a risk of negative trust when his account is worth much more then loan amount.

Just FYI, Operatr lists herself as a female.   Wink
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May 08, 2015, 04:38:25 AM
#6
Forgot to add,

Repayment address: 1AK7oAdLSuiYri6GNhBZXWF8LXVBbxcznn
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May 08, 2015, 04:35:54 AM
#5
change your personal message to
"This account has an active loan from Neotox."

as we agreed via PM
and don't change this until loan is repaid

It's a great idea, but one that will get harder to enforce as you give out more loans!
If OP changes/remove the personal message before repayment this is will considered as his scam attempt
A legit user won't have any problem having a message to their profile when they have a active loan


And I don't think he will take a risk of negative trust when his account is worth much more then loan amount.
Vod
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May 08, 2015, 04:34:01 AM
#4
change your personal message to
"This account has an active loan from Neotox."

as we agreed via PM
and don't change this until loan is repaid

It's a great idea, but one that will get harder to enforce as you give out more loans!
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May 08, 2015, 04:31:22 AM
#3
Sent
https://blockchain.info/tx/5eda2c0a563b9f82d337096c6d1d727e078aa4cceeb334c372af79848f8963af

change your personal message to
"This account has an active loan from Neotox."


as we agreed via PM

Received.
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May 08, 2015, 04:28:06 AM
#2
Sent
https://blockchain.info/tx/5eda2c0a563b9f82d337096c6d1d727e078aa4cceeb334c372af79848f8963af

change your personal message to
"This account has an active loan from Neotox."


as we agreed via PM
and don't change this until loan is repaid


Regards
Neotox...
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May 08, 2015, 04:26:02 AM
#1
Loan Amount :0.25 BTC
Term : Will Repay Before 20th
Send Loan Amount Here :- 1H66TVbWmfQitUzoCnb6JY7cSwVo1HjsE8

Thankyou
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