Topic: Need 0.35 Loan, will pay back 0.45 (Read 2424 times)

I wanted to make it right.

I also left negative feedback in your hacked account (just to be sure). Hope it helps!

confirmed I received it thank you. I'm quite surprised you remembered this thread. I had all but pretty much forgot about it myself.

I just sent you .07 BTC back.  Twice what you lost from this guy.

Here's proof of the transfer:
https://blockchain.info/tx/dc51d296c102c1f232fe41c50bd36af5ee36bd1bdc5f0183063c862a3dbdae39

Do not remove the negative feedback from my old account.  It looks like I'm never getting it back.  I encourage anyone reading this to actually dump more on the account to prevent others from being suckered in by whatever.

It looks like I'm never going to get back my original account.  I sent you a PM.  PM me your BTC address, and I'll take care of it.

I submitted this about 4 hours ago.  Thanks for the link.

Aside from having to change 300 or so passwords, and having to report some transactions as fraudulent, it seems I'm winding up mostly unscathed.

I hope he didn't get you for anything else did he? don't have to reply to that if you don't want to

I'll reply after I finish the account restoration - may take a bit, still doing a lot of damage control on my end.

hey I'd be thrilled if I got .02 back

What would you consider to be reasonable compensation here?  
If I can get back my account (as secondary proof), I'd like to make it right.

yes I only sent .035. if the chat logs are too small lmk and I'll try it again.

the whole can't post more than once every 6 mins is really aggravating

I'll give that a try as soon as I am able.

Please do post the entire PM chat logs.  Just to make sure I have this right, it was only .035 then?  If it was only .035, and if I ever regain access to my account (So I can verify that I'm not getting scammed twice), I'll work out what I can do for restitution - even though, like you said, it's partially on you too.

At least the Bitcoin address wasn't used on Raptor's account. That's most likely minor proof saying his account wasn't hacked. But, meh. 

Fwiw I only slightly blame Raptor for what happened given that yes I lost the money because his account got hacked but it was mostly my fault if anything the blame goes something like 75% me. I can act rashly sometimes and I'm quick to believe what I see without second guessing myself and like I said if this would bite me in the ass I wouldn't complain. As same as what CF said, 20$ isn't a huge amount and that's why I gave the loan without collateral and without seeing the input of the community. As for why I misread it to say .035 instead of .35 I guess its cus it says 0.35 loan if it said .35 instead there's no way I'd have made that mistake and i do stupid crap when its late.

Now for proving the transaction did in fact take place between his account- I can prove that. I know my address and the transaction shows up in the block explorer. http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GpgJnN4sP6P7KejCBMXMuTkgjVvT5W1KJ
I also have the private messages that we sent back and forth I could easily screenshot them or something. I sent him a few messages, sent the money and then posted that I did the transaction so that people wouldn't try to send him two loans and make sure the transaction was publicly known. I was quite confident at the time that the op was not a scammer

Like a freaking dumb ass I am pretty quick to trust people if I see they have the background that i think they should. I'd rather this thread die out now.

Try to request theymos to get your account back.

Follow the instructions listed on this thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovering-hacked-accounts-or-accounts-with-lost-passwords-497545

I do have proof, however, since it would require giving someone access to my accounts to look at, I'm not going to provide it to any random person with 0 trust. 

Things you should note:

• I currently have no access to my account to even verify that the transaction did, indeed take place
• The transaction (supposedly) took place with an extremely new member, under fairly suspicious circumstances (missreading .35 (~$200) for .035 (~$20) and not making the discussion public).
• What verification do you have that I'm not just some random scammer with a sob story?
• It was (supposedly) $200, not $20.  If it were $20, and I could verify it, and I had access to my account, I'd toss it back from one of my other accounts.  I'm not rich by any means, but that's nearly pocket change to me.

If a forum Admin, or, at my discretion, a user of sufficient trust wishes to contact me to view logs, I would be happy to provide them.

Oh my god. This is such a shocker! As soon as someone sends you $20 after a loan request, his ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED!

In case I do decide to believe you: Have any proof, bucko?

2 weeks!  Guess the wanting a loan for BFL gear shoulda been the tipoff.  Sorry for your loss.

I've seen the address below before, it seems to be his primary and should be blacklisted.

Always follow rule 13 - Make sure all deals are negotiated in the open forum for both public record and peer review.
It sucks, believe me, I know.  He got into my email address, so I'm having to change EVERYTHING. 

I was starting to think that could be the case. sigh.

This is actually my account.  The account has been hacked.

This is a very strange situation.  Doesn't really make sense.

I've left him negative trust.  Let me know if he returns the coins and I will remove the trust.

Not yet. he hasn't logged in since yesterday night and the address I sent the coins to haven't been sent anywhere yet

Did he send the coins back to you?

And the drama ensures... He really scammed that amount? 

But the difference here is that there is no fraud prevention. It's one man's total morals and ethics. On ebay, you are forced to be legitimate. Here, it's not like that.

Ebay has several tools to use against a fraud. It is generally enough to keep long standing people mostly honest. Ebay ratings really shouldn't/don't factor in here as it's completely different from an enforcement viewpoint.

A wide range of ebay rating means something. If there's only a few trades recently, it means nothing, since he could've sold his account, or he could've been hacked. He only has 4 trades in the past month, which is very little compared to a few years back.

I disagree with that/  Ebay rating DOES mean something IMO when it comes to trading here, or at least for me.  It gives you a bit more hope that it's legit.  But then again, I wouldn't take any "accounts' reputations" as collateral.

We don't know that he was scamming, but it does seem suspicious.

He was trying to scam $220, but you sent him $22 and his greed overcame him, he grabbed it and ran.
jk, but it doesn't look good at all. ebay rating means nothing, and also, reputation is considered, but reputation on Bitcointalk.

That's fairly simple. Looking through his post history its clear he is a contributing forum member and trying his hand at becoming a miner. He had tons of posts trying to help people. An ebay account for raptor2213 had a 98% rating w/ one bad feedback about a 3$ item and most of the volume was for mining equipment. I'm brand new to the bitcoin community but I am from the online poker community and one thing I've learned is that a man's reputation is all you have online and it's worth a damn more than 20$. If you weed out a rat for 20 bucks you got a big win lol. Anyway this is terrible all around since my mistake ended up derailing his loan request and obv I feel bad but I'd eat my own shirt if barring his account getting hacked he really did scam me.

  Hopefully he didn't get scammed. Why would he even lend that guy any money, anyway? He won't even come on the thread.

Obviously no collateral for a loan like this

And yeah, why the hell are you ordering from BFL?  Will that be your excuse for the "lost" funds?

hmm atleast your error made to send him less btc  lets see if it returns to you

What are you buying on BFL? Last I heard they have been having numerous and extensive delays with their vaporware...

Anyway, do you have any collateral to offer?

No I thought he wanted .035 so I sent that. I didn't notice he wanted .35 so I asked for him to send it back. It's 1:30 in texas so I guess he went to bed. I'll update in the morning

Um... Didn't he say 9th June? I thought you made a deal.

op has not sent back yet.

f me must be turning dyslexic. He said he'd send it back nothing to see here 

its not 20$ .  it approximately 220$ 

Sending loan. Idc about collateral we've discussed it. its only 20$ if his reputation around here is worth less than that oh well if he bites me in the ass I won't complain. I promise.

What do you have for collateral?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edu-the-rule-of-no-collateral-no-loan-ignore-at-your-own-risk-577765

I need a loan of 0.35 to have enough for an order on BFL, will pay back 0.45 on 6/9/14. I have full verification on Coinbase but need to deposit funds on Monday, will send coins on Tuesday.

Let me know please, thanks.

Address: 1GpgJnN4sP6P7KejCBMXMuTkgjVvT5W1KJ

PM with receiving address and agreement