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Quote from: mezmerizer9 on September 04, 2015, 11:09:49 AM

Quote from: Panthers52 on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 AM

Quote from: premium_domainer on September 04, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Let me know if you have anything as a collateral except domain names. I can lend you 1.5 BTC

If the person who is selling domains is not willing to accept the domains as collateral then it should be safe to say that the domains being offered are not worth 1.5 BTC : D

Normally domain is not legit collateral and cannot be liquidated easily. And the value is varying a lot and difficulty to estimate. So most of the lenders wouldn't accept domain as collateral.

I would accept TLD's (never got an offer tough)... Not these ones tough, and only IF google analytics is properly installed and i get a full insight + raw server logs + proof of income from that domain...

Taking a domain as collateral is a lot harder than taking a lot of other stuff... It requires the lender to properly estimating how much the domain is worth... This means analyzing everything: the domain itself, the age, the past websites that used this tld, the present site, PR, alexa ratings, income, SE traffic, link partners,...

Next to that, there is a technical aspect: the domain should be moved from the person taking a loan to the account (and name) of the lender... A process that takes a lot longer than just locking a bitcointalk account... An escrow is also possible, but you need an escrow that has enough knowlegde about domain transfers and stuff...

Nevertheless, i think a domain CAN be good collateral, but only quality domain and only for really big loans tough, because it would be to much of a hassle for a .5 loan...

Imagine somebody would offer porn.com [NSFW] as a collateral for a 50BTC loan... You would be a fool not to take it Wink

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Quote from: Panthers52 on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 AM

Quote from: premium_domainer on September 04, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Let me know if you have anything as a collateral except domain names. I can lend you 1.5 BTC

If the person who is selling domains is not willing to accept the domains as collateral then it should be safe to say that the domains being offered are not worth 1.5 BTC : D

I could do for any LLLL COM as a collateral but these domains didn't impressed me.

I didn't say it's not worth b'coz enduser only knew the value of domain names Wink

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Quote from: Panthers52 on September 04, 2015, 11:04:14 AM

Quote from: premium_domainer on September 04, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Let me know if you have anything as a collateral except domain names. I can lend you 1.5 BTC

If the person who is selling domains is not willing to accept the domains as collateral then it should be safe to say that the domains being offered are not worth 1.5 BTC : D

Normally domain is not legit collateral and cannot be liquidated easily. And the value is varying a lot and difficulty to estimate. So most of the lenders wouldn't accept domain as collateral.

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Quote from: premium_domainer on September 04, 2015, 11:01:04 AM

Let me know if you have anything as a collateral except domain names. I can lend you 1.5 BTC

If the person who is selling domains is not willing to accept the domains as collateral then it should be safe to say that the domains being offered are not worth 1.5 BTC : D

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Let me know if you have anything as a collateral except domain names. I can lend you 1.5 BTC

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Quote from: Panthers52 on September 03, 2015, 03:38:31 PM

Those automated appraisals are often incorrect and grossly inflated. It is confirmed this is the case with your domains because one is "valued" at $130+ but you are selling it for only $100, yet it is still available.

There is still the fact that you are obviously trying to offload these domains through a loan.

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+1

online appraisals aren't even worth the electricity used to calculate them... I've had domains wich gave me a yearly income of +5000$/year that were online appraised at 200-300 bucks, and domains that had almost no traffic that were appraised at 500-600 bucks...

If you have a human appraisal from a trustworthy company, that's something else Wink

Good luck with getting such a loan, i cannot give it to you since for me personally, the collateral is to much of a risk...

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just as an example: estibot estimates 0$ for bitbabieslove.com

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Quote from: ahoenk on September 03, 2015, 03:41:41 PM

Quote from: Panthers52 on September 03, 2015, 03:38:31 PM

Those automated appraisals are often incorrect and grossly inflated. It is confirmed this is the case with your domains because one is "valued" at $130+ but you are selling it for only $100, yet it is still available.

There is still the fact that you are obviously trying to offload these domains through a loan.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

i listed it 5 minutes ago, we'll see if it can sold at that price or no...

I will have to say that the impression of you trying to sell these domains via a loan is very strong. If you are, then please be aware that lenders do not want those domains. They just want to loan BTC and get interest back.

And yes, domain price calculators tack on about $100-$500 to every domain's worth; in reality, I'd say each of your domains is worth about $10.

If you legitimately need this loan, find other collateral.

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Quote from: Panthers52 on September 03, 2015, 03:38:31 PM

Those automated appraisals are often incorrect and grossly inflated. It is confirmed this is the case with your domains because one is "valued" at $130+ but you are selling it for only $100, yet it is still available.

There is still the fact that you are obviously trying to offload these domains through a loan.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

i listed it 5 minutes ago, we'll see if it can sold at that price or no...

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Those automated appraisals are often incorrect and grossly inflated. It is confirmed this is the case with your domains because one is "valued" at $130+ but you are selling it for only $100, yet it is still available.

There is still the fact that you are obviously trying to offload these domains through a loan.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

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Quote from: Panthers52 on September 03, 2015, 03:26:51 PM

Quote from: ahoenk on September 03, 2015, 03:23:58 PM

i need 1.5 btc and i will give my domain as collateral

this is my domain :

i will give all my domain as collateral for 1 - 1.5 btc

repay : 1.1 btc / 10%

term : 15 days

You are trying to sell your domains. I am no expert but I would guess most of those domains have nearly zero value.

I think you should probably lock this thread before someone sees that you are trying to pretend that a sale is in fact a loan (that you are being dishonest) and sends you negative trust.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

but appraisal said :

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Quote from: ahoenk on September 03, 2015, 03:23:58 PM

i need 1.5 btc and i will give my domain as collateral

this is my domain :

i will give all my domain as collateral for 1 - 1.5 btc

repay : 1.1 btc / 10%

term : 15 days

You are trying to sell your domains. I am no expert but I would guess most of those domains have nearly zero value.

I think you should probably lock this thread before someone sees that you are trying to pretend that a sale is in fact a loan (that you are being dishonest) and sends you negative trust.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

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i need 1.5 btc and i will give my domain as collateral

this is my domain :

i will give all my domain as collateral for 1 - 1.5 btc

repay : 1.1 btc / 10%

term : 15 days

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