Topic: Need a loan (will provide collateral) (Read 2116 times)
If I buy BTC with the USD, will I be able to withdraw?
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what message did you sign
iluvbitcoins
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wait 72 hours
my investment has failed then
the rule doesn't even make sense
why dafauq did they let me deposit if I can't withdraw
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do you want me to sign the others?
I'm not sure what I'm doing, but for this address, this is what I get
1GiCrkr2QDFSMVAxFCVoJaEVoq6d2uXbFc
H3ZUQiPBh+G9vM7/uA46DVYMlOxpZWcAjYXbGAhGb+HPPkehJMqSzX4Px9q9jV1ySQyOiLVoOGoYeHYOtrfjvqQ=
what message did you sign1GiCrkr2QDFSMVAxFCVoJaEVoq6d2uXbFc
H3ZUQiPBh+G9vM7/uA46DVYMlOxpZWcAjYXbGAhGb+HPPkehJMqSzX4Px9q9jV1ySQyOiLVoOGoYeHYOtrfjvqQ=
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any ideas how to withdraw my money?
For this address, this is what I get
1GiCrkr2QDFSMVAxFCVoJaEVoq6d2uXbFc
H3ZUQiPBh+G9vM7/uA46DVYMlOxpZWcAjYXbGAhGb+HPPkehJMqSzX4Px9q9jV1ySQyOiLVoOGoYeHYOtrfjvqQ=
any ideas how to withdraw my money?
1GiCrkr2QDFSMVAxFCVoJaEVoq6d2uXbFc
H3ZUQiPBh+G9vM7/uA46DVYMlOxpZWcAjYXbGAhGb+HPPkehJMqSzX4Px9q9jV1ySQyOiLVoOGoYeHYOtrfjvqQ=
any ideas how to withdraw my money?
Bitcoin Core v0.9.2.1-g354c0f3-beta (64-bit)
can you sign a message from one of the addresses that sent Bitcoin to the deposit address?yes, why?
Bitcoin Core v0.9.2.1-g354c0f3-beta (64-bit)
can you sign a message from one of the addresses that sent Bitcoin to the deposit address?yes, why?
Bitcoin Core v0.9.2.1-g354c0f3-beta (64-bit)
can you sign a message from one of the addresses that sent Bitcoin to the deposit address?
Bitcoin Core v0.9.2.1-g354c0f3-beta (64-bit)
What walket service did you use when you sent the transaction?
Is that your btc-e deposit address?
yes
yes
Is that your btc-e deposit address?
first of all invested is not the appropiate adjective. Secondly I never made any representation as to how long it would take to get funds out. Third even if I did it is your responsibility to do your own due diligence. Forth can you provide a txid of the .78 that you sent to btc-e
sorry if it came out like I'm attacking you
I'm pretty frustrated
just frustrated because I made my debit account long time ago, first the credit card comes with a wrong name, I request a new one, when it finally arrives, the verification can't be done on time, I decide to sell my bitcoin, when I finally do it, my deposit gets stuck for 3 days
don't take it personally
https://blockchain.info/address/1VkBbEw2WYyfGVTKdxPX83HQD2dmBisap
I guess
as I see, it is one of my sending addresses
first of all invested is not the appropiate adjective. Secondly I never made any representation as to how long it would take to get funds out. Third even if I did it is your responsibility to do your own due diligence. Forth can you provide a txid of the .78 that you sent to btc-e
sorry if it came out like I'm attacking you
I'm pretty frustrated
just frustrated because I made my debit account long time ago, first the credit card comes with a wrong name, I request a new one, when it finally arrives, the verification can't be done on time, I decide to sell my bitcoin, when I finally do it, my deposit gets stuck for 3 days
don't take it personally
https://blockchain.info/address/1VkBbEw2WYyfGVTKdxPX83HQD2dmBisap
first of all invested is not the appropiate adjective. Secondly I never made any representation as to how long it would take to get funds out. Third even if I did it is your responsibility to do your own due diligence. Forth can you provide a txid of the .78 that you sent to btc-e
sorry if it came out like I'm attacking you
I'm pretty frustrated (at everything else including myself, not you)
I wanted to get in early on this
just frustrated because I made my debit account long time ago, first the credit card comes with a wrong name, I request a new one, when it finally arrives, the verification can't be done on time, I decide to sell my coins and repurchase them later, then my deposit gets stuck for 3 days!
don't take it personally
https://blockchain.info/address/1VkBbEw2WYyfGVTKdxPX83HQD2dmBisap
Aaaah
noooo
I already invested and now can't withdraw!
you should of warned me about this when suggesting!
god, damn it..
what the fuck do I do now?
first of all invested is not the appropiate adjective. Secondly I never made any representation as to how long it would take to get funds out. Third even if I did it is your responsibility to do your own due diligence. Forth can you provide a txid of the .78 that you sent to btc-e noooo
I already invested and now can't withdraw!
you should of warned me about this when suggesting!
god, damn it..
what the fuck do I do now?
Aaaah
noooo
I already invested and now can't withdraw!
you should of warned me about this when suggesting!
god, damn it..
what the fuck do I do now?
noooo
I already invested and now can't withdraw!
you should of warned me about this when suggesting!
god, damn it..
what the fuck do I do now?
Since egopay is facing problems and the amount and type of collateral you have varies I won't keep my offer anymore.
Sorry for any inconvenience and good luck
Sorry for any inconvenience and good luck
Okay 
I'm saying it won't sell in time
Btcjam notes take days to sell, not minutes/hours
I already issued it for sale yesterday
It won't sell unless I undercat it significally
If anything changes either post here or shoot me a PM and I would be happy to lend to you Btcjam notes take days to sell, not minutes/hours
I already issued it for sale yesterday
It won't sell unless I undercat it significally
I'm saying it won't sell in time
Btcjam notes take days to sell, not minutes/hours
I already issued it for sale yesterday
It won't sell unless I undercut it significally
Btcjam notes take days to sell, not minutes/hours
I already issued it for sale yesterday
It won't sell unless I undercut it significally
Okay. Put 1.15 btc in escrow and I will lend you 300$ worth of Bitcoin then you can sell it on btc-e and withdraw to PayPal (check their fees to make sure $300 is enough, if not then I can lend more). In the event that the value of the Bitcoin in escrow falls below $305 you can either put more Bitcoin in escrow or the money in escrow will be released to me to cover the loan.
The problem is I only have 0.79BTC available in my wallet
I can however provide my bitlending account and my btcjam account password&e-mail (which the escrow would change) as collateral too, which have over 1.5BTC pending in investments
Okay. Put 1.15 btc in escrow and I will lend you 300$ worth of Bitcoin then you can sell it on btc-e and withdraw to PayPal (check their fees to make sure $300 is enough, if not then I can lend more). In the event that the value of the Bitcoin in escrow falls below $305 you can either put more Bitcoin in escrow or the money in escrow will be released to me to cover the loan.
min. withdrawal for paypal is 500$
though, I can use PerfectMoney, min. is 10$
I'd like if you managed this, and just sent me the money on the account
That is true, I can't provide 1.9BTC in collateral
I only have 0.79BTC in my hands, and over 1BTC pending on bitlending, and 0.62BTC pending on btcjam
well, 0.545BTC pending on this forum too
there is no way I can gather those coins on time
I have only 1 loan on btcjam (which would be 0.5BTC if the note is sold, it won't be sold on time though)
4 of them on bitlending, which can't be sold
I just traded some of my BTC for USD, on btc-e, it is too late now
I have no time for these negotiations as I think you won't accept these accounts as collateral now
It looks like your story is changing. I only have 0.79BTC in my hands, and over 1BTC pending on bitlending, and 0.62BTC pending on btcjam
well, 0.545BTC pending on this forum too
there is no way I can gather those coins on time
I have only 1 loan on btcjam (which would be 0.5BTC if the note is sold, it won't be sold on time though)
4 of them on bitlending, which can't be sold
I just traded some of my BTC for USD, on btc-e, it is too late now
I have no time for these negotiations as I think you won't accept these accounts as collateral now
If you were to sell your btcjam note and combine that with your .78 that you have in your wallet then I could lend you $300 worth of bitcoin, although I am not sure that would get you what you are looking for (you could potentially sell the bitcoin I lend you for a trusted member's paypal in the currency exchange section)
That is true, I can't provide 1.9BTC in collateral
I only have 0.79BTC in my hands, and over 1BTC pending on bitlending, and 0.62BTC pending on btcjam
well, 0.545BTC pending on this forum too
there is no way I can gather those coins on time
I have only 1 loan on btcjam (which would be 0.5BTC if the note is sold, it won't be sold on time though)
4 of them on bitlending, which can't be sold
I just traded some of my BTC for USD, on btc-e, it is too late now
I have no time for these negotiations as I think you won't accept these accounts as collateral now
And the investment will be ready soon, I need to get in early
Thanks for your time, though
I only have 0.79BTC in my hands, and over 1BTC pending on bitlending, and 0.62BTC pending on btcjam
well, 0.545BTC pending on this forum too
there is no way I can gather those coins on time
I have only 1 loan on btcjam (which would be 0.5BTC if the note is sold, it won't be sold on time though)
4 of them on bitlending, which can't be sold
I just traded some of my BTC for USD, on btc-e, it is too late now
I have no time for these negotiations as I think you won't accept these accounts as collateral now
And the investment will be ready soon, I need to get in early
Thanks for your time, though
Quickly tell me will you do it or not?
Because I'll use btc-e then with what I have
I will lend you $300 worth of bitcoin @ 0.5% per day with 1.15 BTC as collateral or $500 worth of bitcoin @ 0.5% per day with 1.9 BTC as collateral. Because I'll use btc-e then with what I have
I am not interested in owing BTCjam loans as there are far too many scams on there. IDK if it is possible to sell BTCjam notes or not but if it is then you could sell the notes, withdraw the bitcoin and use that as collateral.
Also FYI your OP says you will offer 1 BTC as collateral but you do not have 1 BTC according to your most recent statement
Quickly tell me will you do it or not?
Because I'll use btc-e then with what I have
Because I'll use btc-e then with what I have
You ca cancel the pending investments and withdraw the Bitcoin. I can lend you $500 worth of Bitcoin if you put 1.9 in escrow
they have been funded
and already started repaying the first rates..
EDIT:
The conversion is in progress
Need to invest urgently
You ca cancel the pending investments and withdraw the Bitcoin. I can lend you $500 worth of Bitcoin if you put 1.9 in escrow
Okay. Put 1.15 btc in escrow and I will lend you 300$ worth of Bitcoin then you can sell it on btc-e and withdraw to PayPal (check their fees to make sure $300 is enough, if not then I can lend more). In the event that the value of the Bitcoin in escrow falls below $305 you can either put more Bitcoin in escrow or the money in escrow will be released to me to cover the loan.
The problem is I only have 0.79BTC available in my wallet
I can however provide my bitlending account and my btcjam account password&e-mail (which the escrow would change) as collateral too, which have over 1.5BTC pending in investments
Okay. Put 1.15 btc in escrow and I will lend you 300$ worth of Bitcoin then you can sell it on btc-e and withdraw to PayPal (check their fees to make sure $300 is enough, if not then I can lend more). In the event that the value of the Bitcoin in escrow falls below $305 you can either put more Bitcoin in escrow or the money in escrow will be released to me to cover the loan.
min. withdrawal for paypal is 500$
though, I can use PerfectMoney, min. is 10$
I'd like if you managed this, and just sent me the money on the account
Okay. Put 1.15 btc in escrow and I will lend you 300$ worth of Bitcoin then you can sell it on btc-e and withdraw to PayPal (check their fees to make sure $300 is enough, if not then I can lend more). In the event that the value of the Bitcoin in escrow falls below $305 you can either put more Bitcoin in escrow or the money in escrow will be released to me to cover the loan.
I offered to do exactly what I proposed days ago
man, do anything you want with the BTC, just get me 300$ on SolidTrustPay,Egopay,PayPal or PerfectMoney
and I'll repay it in bitcoin in equivalent fiat value
I offered to do exactly what I proposed days ago
Yes, it is
but I need to find a lender then and time is running out
but I need to find a lender then and time is running out
I thought the point of you wanting to borrow fiat was that you didn't want to sell your Bitcoin.
The only difference between what was suggested and your original request is that reversable payment methods are not being used.
The only difference between what was suggested and your original request is that reversable payment methods are not being used.
Nah, I mean I'll just deposit my own BTC to btc-e
Sell it, buy fiat, invest it
And hope my credit card gets verified as soon as possible so I can buy back
Sell it, buy fiat, invest it
And hope my credit card gets verified as soon as possible so I can buy back
I honestly have no idea how long withdrawals take.
With a fiat loan you borrow a dollar amount worth of Bitcoin. So for example if you borrow $300 worth of Bitcoin when the price is at $300 you would get 1 btc. Then for example when you repay the loan the price of Bitcoin is $200 you would then owe the lender 1.5 btc, conversely if the price of Bitcoin were to rise to $400 you would owe the lender .75 btc (both examples assume 0% interest)
With a fiat loan you borrow a dollar amount worth of Bitcoin. So for example if you borrow $300 worth of Bitcoin when the price is at $300 you would get 1 btc. Then for example when you repay the loan the price of Bitcoin is $200 you would then owe the lender 1.5 btc, conversely if the price of Bitcoin were to rise to $400 you would owe the lender .75 btc (both examples assume 0% interest)
Why don't you borrow fiat via btc, sell the borrowed btc via btc-e withdraw to PayPal then send money back to btc-e (or otherwise purchase btc) buy the amount of btc that you borrowed (in terms of dollars) and repay the lender
aaah
I'll just do that, thank for the suggestion..
hope BTC price won't skyrocket in the meantime
can you tell me how long do their withdrawals take?
Why don't you borrow fiat via btc, sell the borrowed btc via btc-e withdraw to PayPal then send money back to btc-e (or otherwise purchase btc) buy the amount of btc that you borrowed (in terms of dollars) and repay the lender
The credit card won't be verified on time
I still need 300$ on SolidTrustPay,Egopay or PayPal
I still need 300$ on SolidTrustPay,Egopay or PayPal
I got my credit card today, trying to verify it, don't know will it verify on time
Will update you guys later
Will update you guys later
this is why btc is safer than these other e-currencies.
Why don't you go in BTC-E, sell your bitcoin and then withdraw with Egopay in way to have the same amount of money? It's very easy that asking for a lending.
Probably he thinks BTC price will go to the moon by the next week.
And he would need to make a new deposit to have BTC back, don't know how big are fees for him
Why don't you go in BTC-E, sell your bitcoin and then withdraw with Egopay in way to have the same amount of money? It's very easy that asking for a lending.
EgoPay is facing problems right now, using it is not recommended
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/egopay-servers-compromised-sending-fake-transactions-to-merchants-906847
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/egopay-servers-compromised-sending-fake-transactions-to-merchants-906847
Thinking more about it I would accept 0.3%/day and BTC/USD rate for collateral as 295.
Let me know if you accept
Let me know if you accept
I can do by Egopay, since they accept BTC deposits. With paypal I would have to pay lots of paypal taxes and taxes for using dollars and it would be too expensive.
Conditions:
Add the Egopay withdraw fee + BTC-e deposit fee to the total(if you know any other cheaper way to turn EgoPay money into BTC let me know) +any other fee from transferring funds back and forth(so around 5% + transfer fees). Or you can just repay with BTC and save the fees.
Collateral: $300 + fees as described above + 5 days of interests, considering BTC/USD rate as 280.
You send the coins first(to a high trusted escrow)
If prices fall below 280 on Bitstamp collateral will be sold.
This was essentially what I offered to do (although the steps as to how to get the bitcoin into fiat were not this spelled out). I do agree that something like this would be more safe then sending paypal directly to each other) Conditions:
Add the Egopay withdraw fee + BTC-e deposit fee to the total(if you know any other cheaper way to turn EgoPay money into BTC let me know) +any other fee from transferring funds back and forth(so around 5% + transfer fees). Or you can just repay with BTC and save the fees.
Collateral: $300 + fees as described above + 5 days of interests, considering BTC/USD rate as 280.
You send the coins first(to a high trusted escrow)
If prices fall below 280 on Bitstamp collateral will be sold.
I can do by Egopay, since they accept BTC deposits. With paypal I would have to pay lots of paypal taxes and taxes for using dollars and it would be too expensive.
Conditions:
Add the Egopay withdraw fee + BTC-e deposit fee to the total(if you know any other cheaper way to turn EgoPay money into BTC let me know) +any other fee from transferring funds back and forth(so around 5% + transfer fees). Or you can just repay with BTC and save the fees.
Collateral: $300 + fees as described above + 5 days of interests, considering BTC/USD rate as 280.
You send the coins first(to a high trusted escrow)
If prices fall below 280 on Bitstamp collateral will be sold.
Conditions:
Add the Egopay withdraw fee + BTC-e deposit fee to the total(if you know any other cheaper way to turn EgoPay money into BTC let me know) +any other fee from transferring funds back and forth(so around 5% + transfer fees). Or you can just repay with BTC and save the fees.
Collateral: $300 + fees as described above + 5 days of interests, considering BTC/USD rate as 280.
You send the coins first(to a high trusted escrow)
If prices fall below 280 on Bitstamp collateral will be sold.
PayPal can be charged back for up to 180 days after a transaction is sent.
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
if he didn't know that, good thing you told him
well, anyone can find a fake ID&phone number, but anyways
we can just exchange contact information to keep in touch if something goes wrong
facebook account with the same name as ID would be good though, but let's not get too complicated
the rest will be based on trust
PayPal can be charged back for up to 180 days after a transaction is sent.
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
I'd have no problem exchanging real identification and phone numbers with OP as he's done multiple successful transactions to minimize concerns.
I wouldn't want to have the funds held in escrow for 180 days however. The full term to pay back is fine though.
You would both risk that either of your identification is used to help get a loan in the future
There is always exploits and workarounds that someone might possibly use, but the inclusion of identification and phone numbers (and it was only a suggestion) will be more assuring to both parties than nothing at all.
Either way, I'm not going to jump through super hoops to get this done but am willing to do it with OP since he has had many successful trades if (s)he so wishes.
To be honest, I'd probably even end up losing money on the exchange rate (I'm not from USA), but I like helping out and being a part of this community.
PayPal can be charged back for up to 180 days after a transaction is sent.
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
I'd have no problem exchanging real identification and phone numbers with OP as he's done multiple successful transactions to minimize concerns.
I wouldn't want to have the funds held in escrow for 180 days however. The full term to pay back is fine though.
You would both risk that either of your identification is used to help get a loan in the future
PayPal can be charged back for up to 180 days after a transaction is sent.
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
I'd have no problem exchanging real identification and phone numbers with OP as he's done multiple successful transactions to minimize concerns.
I wouldn't want to have the funds held in escrow for 180 days however. The full term to pay back is fine though.
PayPal can be charged back for up to 180 days after a transaction is sent.
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
Both parties would be at risk for a similar amount of time
I can send funds to your coinbase or circle address.
I don't have PayPal ect
I don't have PayPal ect
sorry, man
as I said, I have BTC, I need PayPal,STP or Egopay
It'd be Paypal.
sure, but I'd like to use escrow for the coins because of chargeback
Yeah escrow is no problem at all.
I can send funds to your coinbase or circle address.
I don't have PayPal ect
I don't have PayPal ect
sorry, man
as I said, I have BTC, I need PayPal,STP or Egopay
It'd be Paypal.
sure, but I'd like to use escrow for the coins because of chargeback
I can do this later today at 5PM Eastern Time if you still need it.
we can do this today, but I'd like us to start counting the 0.5%/day at the 31st, or I'll wait until then to take it
I can do this later today at 5PM Eastern Time if you still need it.
which processor can you use?
I can provide a fiat based loan in btc (you would need a way to sell Bitcoin and withdraw to your bank).
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
only if you can deposit to some of the payment processors?
It'd be Paypal.
I can send funds to your coinbase or circle address.
I don't have PayPal ect
I don't have PayPal ect
I can do this later today at 5PM Eastern Time if you still need it.
we can do this today, but I'd like us to start counting the 0.5%/day at the 31st, or I'll wait until then to take it
I can do this later today at 5PM Eastern Time if you still need it.
which processor can you use?
I can provide a fiat based loan in btc (you would need a way to sell Bitcoin and withdraw to your bank).
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
only if you can deposit to some of the payment processors?
I can do this later today at 5PM Eastern Time if you still need it.
I can provide a fiat based loan in btc (you would need a way to sell Bitcoin and withdraw to your bank).
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
In the event that the price of Bitcoin falls below 305 you would either need to provide more collateral or the Bitcoin would be used to satisfy the loan.
This is a bit weird since I'm offering loans here for almost 4 months now
And now I'm asking for a loan
Well, let me explain first
I just ordered a new credit card, however it arrived with a typo, my name said "Krisijan" instead of "Kristijan"
I requested a new one on the 19th, they said it needs around 10 days to arrive, however it is not here
Most probable case is that it needs 10 works days (won't arrive until the 31st because of Christmas holidays)
I know of a good business investment coming on the 31st, and I need the money then on my SolidTrustPay or Egopay account (but since I know, almost no one uses them, I would even take PayPal! [lender has to be trusted in that case!]) .
I would need around 300$, and will provide over 1BTC as collateral.
Terms I would agree to would be 0.5% a day
Requested : 300$ (SolidTrustPay,Egopay or PayPal)
Collateral: 1BTC
Interest: 0.5% per day
Repayment: As soon as my credit card arrives (shouldn't be long)
Why don't I sell my bitcoins and invest on my own?
Hell no, look at the prices
And now I'm asking for a loan
Well, let me explain first
I just ordered a new credit card, however it arrived with a typo, my name said "Krisijan" instead of "Kristijan"
I requested a new one on the 19th, they said it needs around 10 days to arrive, however it is not here
Most probable case is that it needs 10 works days (won't arrive until the 31st because of Christmas holidays)
I know of a good business investment coming on the 31st, and I need the money then on my SolidTrustPay or Egopay account (but since I know, almost no one uses them, I would even take PayPal! [lender has to be trusted in that case!]) .
I would need around 300$, and will provide over 1BTC as collateral.
Terms I would agree to would be 0.5% a day
Requested : 300$ (SolidTrustPay,Egopay or PayPal)
Collateral: 1BTC
Interest: 0.5% per day
Repayment: As soon as my credit card arrives (shouldn't be long)
Why don't I sell my bitcoins and invest on my own?
Hell no, look at the prices
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