Topic: Need help to receive payment from USA (Read 229 times)

I understand this very well , but as i see many trades been made by forum members PP/BTC , i thought i may find a solution here. It's 1200$ monthly not 6000$.
And as i don't anyone to get in trouble while trying to help , i posted this topic to ask about the possible solutions.
Upon the first replies , i created a topic in currency exchange board and explain the situation and even using an escrow if needed (trying to add more garantes). First idea was to deal with trusted members only who will not hesitate help me understand the risks. The only one i contacted is rdbase and i understood from him all the risks.

Maybe he is right , but believe me , this is not the case here. And if i have 0.1% doubts i would never go into it.
The problem of my friend is that he is dealing with a company with only few options to receive salary on monthly basis. As i said, he received already salary for the last 5 months and the issue appeared with the Sixth month salary so the company suggested paypal.

I know him in person and i fully trust doing business with him. I am pretty sure that he is not trying to scam anybody.
We had deals of more than 6000$ and everything went smooth. Beside this, if i found someone ready to make the deal and my friend scam him, i will take the responsability and pay him from my own money. I am not ready to lose my reputation by naivety.
When i talked to rdbase , i told him that we will use an escrow for the btc funds even i know he is trusted guy and i will send first , i suggested this to garante his funds to be in safe hands (escrow) if any trouble may occur with the PP transaction.

Hey man , i am asking about possible methods and not trying to scam anybody. I am not a PP user and don't know about how it function neither my friend. Does there any problem asking about things in the forum?
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There is only one possible so far in my mind. You have to fund someone trusted from the forum who has been using PayPal regularly. You have to offer him some percentage with the Tax since the US is quite strict with that. And the more important is you have to take the risk in the event of dispute or reverse. Most likely one month's salary would leave with PayPal holders who are helping you. But I doubt you will find someone like that. Otherwise, I can't see any simple solution since the matter is PayPal.

If the company encourages to pay in Bank, then look for international online accounts. What about Payoneer? There will be a Master card and Bank account as well. So your friend would deposit and transfer in his countries accounts. Or could withdraw by Master card.

Even if you (or the person doing this) would fully trust the guy, it can still raise questions. Receiving $6000 from the US and sending it to Tunisia on a regular basis can cause quite some legal headaches and "a friend from someone on Bitcointalk" won't be sufficient if (tax) authorities ask questions.

This sounds plausible.

After reading PrimeNumber7's response, this sounds very much like a scam. If a company has no legal way to pay a freelancer, they should hire someone else. And the freelancer should find a different employer.

How much do you trust him? Do you know him in real life? Would you trust he returns $6000 to you if you give it to him?

The OP is describing a common employment scam.

The scam works like this:
Someone is hired to receive payments to their personal bank account from a third party. Often the payments being received are checks being mailed to the "employees" residence.
The "employee" is to deposit the check into their personal bank account.
The "employee" then is to either wire the funds to the "employer", buy gift cards, or send cash to the employer, less a percentage cut for the employee.
The check is either drawn on a non-existent bank account, or is fraudulent, or will otherwise result in the "employees" bank ultimately reversing the deposit.

Replace receiving a check with receiving a PayPal transaction, or an ACH payment, nad replace send cash with send bitcoin, and you have what the OP is trying to facilitate.

This won't be possible because of the nature of the payment as you explained. However, the company is opened for other method payments but we also don't know what's the suitable option. The only one applicable is with crypto but unfortunately the company don't believe in crypto and think it's so risky and won't afford to use it just to pay a salary.

In fact, my friend already work in a governmental university and has no right to get an extra income from another job. In Tunisia, all the freelancers i knew don't declare their online activities and get payments with different methods.

As i told to rdbase, i am acting as an intermediary to help a friend whom i trust. And i keep asking about risks because i don't want anybody here to get in any kind of trouble because of the paypal transaction. I really appreciate the replies of all of you and i will keep asking about details with you and the one who might accept the deal.

Now i know that using payPal is so risky and expensive, does anyone know about a better option to receive a monthly salary from USA without being forced to declare incomes to local authorities?

If he can receive 5 payments per year, would it work if the company only pays him every 10 weeks? Of course he'd need to trust them enough and be able to go without salary a bit longer, but the new year isn't that far away.

Even if he files his income taxes to Tunisian authorities?

I'd also be careful acting as an escrow for this: it could raise money laundering questions.

Several years ago I was also doing freelance and since the payment was made in PayPal, and in my country, I could not fully verify it, I used the services of intermediaries. They provided me with their PayPal address, and then exchanged the money they received for the currency I needed. Surely now similar exchangers are offering such services. At that time, I used the search through BestChange, it is enough to agree with a trusted exchanger, and receiving money will not be a problem.

I get that. What I mean is how did the company not see this coming? There should be a law or a bank policy somewhere that they could read regarding international money transfers. It looked like they still don't know why the transaction was blocked.

I thought of platforms like Bitpay as an alternative to Paypal and other money transfers yesterday but the company has to register their business first if I'm not mistaken.

Bitwage is already presenting themselves so you may as well throw the idea to your friend.

Yes this is also a possibility. But still hard to figure out that 6000$ is a big amount.
In both cases , you may think about if we change the receiver in the transaction ; even if it may work for one time , though it's always complex to convince someone to accept the payment without paying him or convince the company to change the receiver data every time it send the transaction.

There's a service that could help your friend but lately, it has received a lot of mixed reviews ^{[most of them aren't good]}: BitWage
^{Note: I'd recommend looking for a better alternative but as a last resort, it "might" still work [I prefer to not vouch].}

Are you sure it has something to do with the "number of transfers" and not about reaching a certain limit in regards to the "amounts" that are being transferred?

So it seems the only available option is find someone trusted in this forum and let them to receive funds from the company then you can receive BTC or your friend can from the trusted member. But it will be better to let us know or atleast the trader you are going to trade with about the company because banks will not simply block anyone's account without any violations so the trader should make sure that there is no illicit activities or illegal source of funds coming from the company.

He received his salary for the last five months without a problem. In the sixth time, the amount was refunded by the Tunisian central bank. The cmpany give him the option to recive it by PayPal which he is also restricted to use in Tunisia. I thought to help him through from experienced trusted users who might be interested in the offer.

The company will probably get in trouble sending to a person not in contract with them so your friend will be required to issue some kind of an authorization letter before this third party could accept payment on his behalf. It's quite weird that all these things weren't ironed out by both parties prior to the acceptance of the job.

From what i understood, my friend received several paiements and that it's not allowed to receive transfers from the same source frequently (number of transfers is set by year). My friend can rceive paiements from other sources but if he is willing to receive his salary he has to wait for next year. I hope you can get my point hre.

Yes this should be the deal and i have no idea if this may cause any issue.
My friend is working as freelancer, he is an IT ingineer. He talked with his superiors and explained the issue and they are ready for help. As he told me, after the last transfer was refunded by the CB, the company sugget PayPal option and they know that Tunisia is not supported by PayPal, if he has a friend living in a country where PayPal is supported then the friend send them by western union or moneygram (both support Tunisia). Unlikely, he hasn't.

I am already about to publish a topic in Currency Exchange board. You are an escrow and maybe i will need your services soon.

It's possible to create a PayPal account from Tunisia but it's not possible to verify it using a tunisian address. It's not possible to use the whole international online services as a person (companies has few better options) and even working as freelancer is an illegal activity and many freelancers (i know them personally) got in troubles with the authorities after receiving paiements several times from abroad without being able to announce/verify his activities.

I think @coupable's friend might be right. One could be in Tunisia and be able to register for the PAYPAL service but when they attempt to make transfers, they are blocked by the central bank

This is from an article in 2019

@coupable have you tried exploring other options like Western Union, MoneyGram, WorldRemit?

What's the reason of him (his salary) being blocked by the central bank? What I knew is they will only do that if they suspect illegal activities from the user/person's account such as money laundering, terrorist financing, and etc.
 
So what's the deal? You will require the buyer (you're looking) to be the one to receive the payment from your friend's company? Is it possible that the name of the employee and its bank account's name is different?
 
Technically not possible, but through p2p deals like what you're looking for is the possible way I can only imagine.

AFAIK paypal supports Tunisia, check https://www.paypal.com/tn/webapps/mpp/home

A friend of mine works as freelancer with a company from USA Georgia. My friend is a Tunisian citizen.

He called me few days later to tell me if there is a solution to receive his salary every month because the last time his salary was blocked by the central bank and won't to get in trouble with them. I thought about bitcoin but unfortunetly, the company is ready to pay only with a bank transfer or PayPal. Bank transfer ws blocked last time and refunded to the sender and PayPal doesn't support Tunisia.

I am calling community for either :

• Find a trusted buyer here in the forum and get a deal to receive the paiement every month and send me btc or any other major crypto.

Or

• Suggestions about how to receive a PayPal payment without having a paypal account.

I am ready to answer all your questions about the situation.

Thanks for all your replies.


*I don't know if this is the right board. If it isn't, please suggest where to move it.

Edit : I am jut trying to give a help hand and i have no benefits for doing this. The situation was blocked since a month.
My friend can create a forum account and confirm the situation but he is not familiar with forums.