Need insights regarding hardware wallet

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Quote from: mk4 on January 14, 2020, 06:12:32 AM

Yes, nag iiba iba ang fee sizes depending kung gaano ka congested ung mempool, pero para lang may idea si OP.

I thought na nag iiba ung fee when it comes to transferring crypto from a custodial wallet to a hardware wallet, that is why I asked if there is a difference. Yun naman pala eh walang pinagkaiba, it is just a normal transaction din pala. Thank you po!

I'll be locking this thread since nasagot naman na yung tanong ko! To avoid congestion of spam comments. Thank you so much for all the responses!

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Quote from: Periodik on January 14, 2020, 01:15:00 AM

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2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

Laging may fee kapag ang transfer ay hindi internal. So kapag ang transfer ay lumabas sa coins.ph wallet mo, may fee yan syempre. Pero sa tingin ko naman hindi ganun ka taas to the point na manghihinayang ka at pipiliin mo na lang ang risk over security.

Para dagdag information lang kay OP, as we speak, ito ung fees na naka indicate sa Coins.ph app ko:

Yes, nag iiba iba ang fee sizes depending kung gaano ka congested ung mempool, pero para lang may idea si OP.

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Quote from: Insanerman on January 13, 2020, 10:43:53 AM

1. Meron bang na mabibili thru FB wherein there is a lower price offered comapred to the original price and maintains the originality of the product?

Wag ng mag-risk kung hindi naman kailangan. Napakadumi ng FB in terms of fake, scam, etc. Dun ka na sa official site o store nila.

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2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

Laging may fee kapag ang transfer ay hindi internal. So kapag ang transfer ay lumabas sa coins.ph wallet mo, may fee yan syempre. Pero sa tingin ko naman hindi ganun ka taas to the point na manghihinayang ka at pipiliin mo na lang ang risk over security.

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3. Hardware wallet recommendations? Please explain why it is useful.

Ledger at Trezor. Di na kailangan ng explanation yan. Sila ang mga pundasyon pagdating sa hardware wallets. Hindi nila makuha ang reputasyon nila ngayon kung palpak sila. Ledger mas mura.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 13, 2020, 11:00:43 PM

I'd stick with either Ledger[1], Trezor[2], or ColdCard[3]. Please, buy the product sa official site mismo, to prevent unnecessary problems. Though very unlikely, possible ung tampered devices; and knowing na ung coins natin ay could be worth a lot more sa future, iririsk mo pa ba funds mo para makatipid ng konting pera?

[1] https://ledger.com/
[2] https://trezor.io/
[3] https://coldcardwallet.com/

Agree ako dito pero ledger parin ako for bitcoin wallet, maraming nagbebenta sa fb pero syempre ingat din minsan din kase kahit ung mga legit na sellet ehh hindi minsan sure sa kanilang binibenta na minsan medjo palyado na. At syempre walang warranty sa mga seller sa fb kaya ingat din.

Kapag coins to coins.ph lang ang transaction walang fee pero minsan nagkaakaroon parin pero kapag sa ibang wallet galing sa coins.ph palaging merong fee.

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Good decision bro. Para sakin, kung seryoso ka sa security ng coins mo, dapat talaga eh meron kang hardware wallet. Itong mga sasabihin ko eh based sa experience ko.

Get a Ledger Nano S. Sulit na sulit ang magiging bili mo sa wallet na ito. All security features na meron ang Ledger, meron siya. Mabilis gamitin.
Buy it from their website. Ganyan ginawa ko para sure akong legit at hindi tampered yung wallet. But, never expect na magiging mabilis yung pagdeliver nito sayo. Yung sakin, umabot ng 3 weeks (though nakalagay lang sa kanila eh 2 weeks lang dapat). Ang maganda dito, alam nilang delayed yung delivery sakin kaya ang ginawa nila, nag email sila sakin and nagsorry sila.
Sobrang tibay ng Ledger Nano S (pati yung usb cable na kasama sa package). 2017 ko siya binili at ngayon, gamit ko pa din siya without experiencing any problems.
Medyo may kamahalan pero well-worth-it. I'm not sure pero parang medyo mahal din ang delivery fee non (kasi nanggaling pa ito sa main office nila in Europe). Ewan ko lang ngayon kasi ang alam ko, nagkaron na sila ng office sa iba't ibang bansa.

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I'd stick with either Ledger[1], Trezor[2], or ColdCard[3]. Please, buy the product sa official site mismo, to prevent unnecessary problems. Though very unlikely, possible ung tampered devices; and knowing na ung coins natin ay could be worth a lot more sa future, iririsk mo pa ba funds mo para makatipid ng konting pera?

[1] https://ledger.com/
[2] https://trezor.io/
[3] https://coldcardwallet.com/

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Quote from: Insanerman on January 13, 2020, 08:40:35 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on January 13, 2020, 11:55:54 AM

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2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

Meron

Normally, magkano kaya? Same pa din kaya sa bawat transaction fees ng ibat ibang altcoin? Any reading material that you can suggest?

Thanks, for the recommendation na sa official website na lang bumili to ensure the safety of the assets. Mahirap din pala kapag ni resell baka mamaya na tap na yun which can increase the possibilities of getting hacked instead of protecting the assets.

May Nano ledger ako, pero ang tagal na since na ginamit ko dahil hindi naman ako gaano nag ttransfer ng funds. Sa aking pagkakaalala na seset yung transaction fee bago ka mag send. Mas mainam na direct na sa manufacturer ka na bumili dahil may cases na binubuksan ng ibang reseller ang ledger at kinukuha ang seed phrase, kaya hindi rin safe.

Isa sa pinakamagandang investment yan para sa security ng funds mo.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on January 13, 2020, 11:55:54 AM

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2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

Meron

Normally, magkano kaya? Same pa din kaya sa bawat transaction fees ng ibat ibang altcoin? Any reading material that you can suggest?

Thanks, for the recommendation na sa official website na lang bumili to ensure the safety of the assets. Mahirap din pala kapag ni resell baka mamaya na tap na yun which can increase the possibilities of getting hacked instead of protecting the assets.

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1. Bili ka nalang mismo galing sa manufacturer na Ledger mismo, mula pa sa France yan pagi-ship nila mga ilang araw andito na yun. Pero pwede mo din tignan sa website nila na meron silang partnered retailer dito sa bansa natin(kakacheck ko lang, mukhang nawala na yung retailer partner nila dito sa atin). Mas maganda sa legit ka nalang bumili at wag ng sumugal sa luma kasi mukhang worried ka talaga at may mga report na dati na mga nanakawan sila dahil sa 2nd hand binili nila pero pwede mo naman I-reset yun kung marunong ka. Pagkakaalala ko parang meron atang nagbebenta dito na kababayan natin ng sobra niyang HW.

2. Meron yun, naka indicate yun bago ka magtransfer.

3. Ledger nano S o Ledger nano X

Magandang investment din yang hardware wallet kasi para sayo din yan.

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I guess much better na bumili ka sa mismong site ng mga hardware wallets kasi doon talaga mas may authenticity. In terms naman sa product most are preferring to buy Ledger but if budget ang pag-uusapan may mga alternatives naman dyan na makakamura ka rin. Don't short yourself kung gusto mo ng privacy kasi nakatipid ka nga ng kunwari kalahati ng original price pero yung security mo naman din may alinlangan.

Though I haven't had any of it but I am planning naman for future use pero in terms sa usefulness talagang makakasiguro ka dyan sa privacy mo lalo na ikw talaga may hawak ng assets mo. I'm sticking sa non-costudial software wallet at the moment but as I said mas mabuti talaga yung hardware wallet.

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Quote from: Insanerman on January 13, 2020, 10:43:53 AM

1. Meron bang na mabibili thru FB wherein there is a lower price offered comapred to the original price and maintains the originality of the product?

For sure marami nagbebenta sa FB ng mga hardware wallets but walang makakapagsabi sa authenticity nito. Even if authentic yung hardware, hindi mo pa din masasabi na hindi nagalaw ng unauthorized seller yan. Naintidihan ko na gusto mo makatipid pero bakit mo ipagsasapalaran yung crypto assets mo sa hardware wallet na hindi ka sigurado kung tampered o hindi? Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZezumEosMI (Ledger Nano S SCAM/HACK Explained)

Para sa akin mas risky na hindi ka bumili sa official website o kaya sa mga authorized sellers mismo.

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2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

Meron

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3. Hardware wallet recommendations? Please explain why it is useful.

Discussed in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/security-iwasang-gumamit-ng-custodial-wallets-at-iba-pang-security-tips-5215182
Pwede ka pa din naman gumamit ng mga non-custodial mobile wallets temporarily habang wala ka pa hardware wallets.

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Greetings People,

Based on the recent attack in coins.ph and and a case wherein one of the member here in our community lose his/her funds, bigla akong nag alala with regards to my funds in coins.ph. Kaya nagpaplano sana ako bumili ng hardware wallet that can store BTC, ETH and XRP since ito lang din naman yung laman ng coin.ph ko. However, I have a few questions.

1. Meron bang na mabibili thru FB wherein there is a lower price offered comapred to the original price and maintains the originality of the product?

2. May fee ba kapag nagtatransfer ng crypto from coins.ph/ exchange/ or any kind of wallet sa hardware wallet?

3. Hardware wallet recommendations? Please explain why it is useful.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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