Topic: Need of the Hour : Tackle Joblessness (Read 322 times)

This is one problem of the world that Bitcoin can tackle and it can win this. The problem with the current "Fiat" economy is this, we live in a consumer driven economy that are built on debt. The debt only profit the Banks and the filthy rich people and not the middle class and poor people that are getting 0.5% interest on their deposits. 

So how does Bitcoin help with this? Well for one thing..... Bitcoin is not geared for debt.... governments cannot simply create "money" out of thin air to feed the Reserve Banks and in turn the Banks and the people borrowing from them. 

Industrialization, in my opinion, will not solve the problem of unemployment. 

Modern production does not require a large number of workers.  This is due to the automation and robotization of production.  The situation is similar in the service sector.  Internet, virtual and augmented reality are reducing employment in the service sector. 

To solve this problem, revolutionary approaches to the problem of reorganizing society are needed. 

We need new innovative ideas and leaders who can bring these ideas to life.

"Federal Jobs Guarantee" was something that was talked about 70 years ago or so in the 50's in USA and it became a topic for the whole world right now.

Governments all around the world get huge taxes, sure they do spend it and even go into debt as well but that doesn't change the fact that governments are the biggest earners in the whole world, I doubt there are companies that make more than governments, at least in their respective nations (one usa company could make more profit one very small third world nation government of course).

That leaves you with one option, if government builds business' and give people jobs and try to profit from that, they would be very much in advantage here considering they can't really bankrupt, it would help the country with both financially having some profit and also a lot of jobs. And in an ideal world, government could have many of this type of business', sell whatever is the product to other nations, make a huge profit, and do not get taxes from the citizens but that is a very difficult one.

Point I need to understand here, you mean unemployment will bring more harm or the stimulus? On what you wrote here if you mean stimulus, I can disagree that stimulus will cause harm to the economy. You may think that because there is money as stimulus that inflation can show in the price of goods but No to that because stimulus is not huge, it is temporal and just enough to take care of basic needs like feeding and health care.

That's kind of a different topic when you are talking about good roads, electricity, etc. That's should be factored in directly in the situation of the country itself. Even before this pandemic that we all are experiencing today, that's still the roads, electricity, water utilities from before. It's not that it doesn't matter but it's a different issue altogether.

For the loans though, that's where it's connected. They could let people borrow money in order to make money. That's basic business. I hope that it gives opportunity to people that really needs it.

This is a nice suggestion but the capacity to do is not only finance. You need many amenities including enabling environment to do so. In other on this, the government need to come in and support individuals indirectly by providing the environment that includes good roads, electricity and loan. This amenities are important for beginners in business and for government to reduce tax too for small businesses. This is how the world economy can bounce back but if support from government, it will be a hard but even when the individual have the capacity.

Bitcointalk forum saves me from hunger it serves as my job during this pandemic and during my college days where I need to provide my own tuition and other expenses because we're not rich , my family money is already budgeted for daily expenses and for our food and because of this pandemic I cannot find a good job that will not let my family into danger so I am very thankful , I am sometimes accepted in btc camp but bounties can be good too.

What if I tell you that the government doesn't owe you anything beyond what you pay taxes for? We will admit honestly that taxes are, if quite simply, a payment for the fact that you could live and not think about the fact that tomorrow you will be bombarded with chlorine and bombs that would take away your territory.
In addition to this function, the state does not owe you anything at ALL.
Just like you don't owe the state anything beyond what you've already received.

You say "the state should create jobs". Are you aware that any state-owned enterprise in the basic model is already a loss-making project in itself because it is uncompetitive in the conditions of the usual market, where people fight for profit by attracting consumers? Any state institution does not participate in such a fight because it is sitting on budget money. Do you want to pay more taxes? Or do you want new useless jobs and an expanded army of officials? I'm not sure.

With everything else, the emerging demand and the supply that keeps up on time will cope.

My sister was affected by this jobless part. Her company started laying off people, and she was part of the 5000 people IIRC. It's sad, but that's just the reality, and it could happen. There's no complete job security, and you need to be prepared for what could happen. We should be prepared.

I think what we can do about it is that if we have the capacity to create a company and produce jobs for other people, and then you would definitely help someone. I believe that this is the case all over the world. As long as you have the capacity, right?

There's only signature campaigns, most of which pay like $60/week, and there's only enough spots for a few hundreds of people. This is changes absolutely nothing for unemployed people in America and other developed countries. It's only good for people from developing countries for whom $60 is a competitive salary to what they might be getting with real jobs available to them.

And Bitcoin freelancing is basically dead, there's only a couple of sites and they have like 2-3 new offers per month at best.

Getting a job today wouldn’t pay you well, your better chance to survive by having absolutely no job, my first job have been negative yield since the day one, and I’m quiting my job to never look back because my job can’t buy me food, check this out a YouTube video I found, the author are salty about being an engineer in Germany and get paid 5000 pound and having absolutely no saving, and he need to save money on food and resort to eat spaghettis for his daily meal, having no personal car but need to depend on public shuttles to get to office, what a shitty job he is having!

watch?v=ZFA5Rax0ypU

COVID-19 has only complicated problems in major cities. In small settlements, in practice, nothing has changed. Traveling is very dangerous, because different strains of the virus are different in different countries, and it is very difficult to get qualified medical care.
Vaccinations are not always effective and their effects have not yet been investigated by scientists. We can blame COVID-19 for all economic problems, but in fact it is not.

The data you presented is quite alarming. No doubt, the unemployment rate rapidly increased during the pandemic because a lot of establishments, companies, and businesses were forced to close down. However, some countries are already starting to bounce back and recover from economic decline, unemployment, and covid-19 cases. The government must really produce jobs for the citizens so that there would be lesser people in the poverty line. It would even be a win-win scenario since when there are many people employed and paying taxes, the economy will boost.

Government must have proper budget allocations in order to make the most out of the people's taxes. By doing so, the citizens will benefit from the taxes they are paying diligently to the government. Livelihood projects and government or even community works should be the priority and not some extravagant project that has no beneficial effect to the people. I agree with you that we need to have a sustainable industry which requires manpower to lessen the jobless population.

I just hope that this year, most countries will soon bounce back despite the new strain of covid-19 that is said to be more contagious and severe since it has already mutated. Let's anchor our hope to the mass production of the vaccines and the efficacy it offer.

Nice perception and most like would really be adopted to those children who had some education in USA and will surely apply this kind of system.

This problem isn't something that should really be enclosed to be applied or should be seen on American soil but in most parts of the world does really have this kind of problem.

Numbers might differ but it would really be just still on the same on the situation that implies.This pandemic did really mess up everything from economic state or even
on the simpliest form of business privately.

COVID-19 has become the catalyst for all problems.
America and European countries print money to forget about problems for a while.
I will tell you what is happening in Russia. Children of officials and businessmen study in the best educational institutions in the USA and Europe. When they come to Russia and start running their parents' business, these children all start with the same step: optimization.
They lay off 10-30% of employees and outsource many departments. This is taught in the best educational institutions in the USA and Europe. I think other countries have the same problems.

Not only America has experienced an increase in unemployment, but almost all countries in the world have experienced an increase in unemployment.
Since the COVID-19 pandemic broke out, several small businesses have had to close down. Even some companies have to reduce their employees.
The unemployment problem will not be resolved as long as the spread of the corona virus cannot be stopped. Regarding the problem of stimulus,
it is only a temporary solution, so the government must provide other solutions that can reduce the number of unemployed people. I think maybe
the government can provides a lot of free training online, so that many people can be creative in creating products that can finally be sold online.

I believe that the problem of unemployment over time.
This is due to the robotization of many professions. Robots don't get sick, don't complain.
Most of the goods are sold online, so many shops are closing. Only offices for receiving orders work.
The training takes place over the Internet, there is no need for a large number of teachers.
Banks lay off many workers every year because robots are taking their places.
The list is very long ..

Going on a lockdown the first time killed off a lot of businesses, and some of them who were able to go through the lockdown had to drop some of their employees to be able to cope with their new condition for the business. It has been that way too in my country, a lot of people have lost their jobs and the increase in unemployment has even doubled.

Why it’s worst that I live in a country where the government hardly provides anything for the citizens, so who is going to do this creating of jobs for the youths? Except that some private businesses start popping up again and then there might be another opportunity. People are no longer ready for any other lockdown or staying indoors, despite there is covid19, they all don’t care they just need source of income to take care of their family.

I will assume that rich countries will adapt and return to normal life much better and faster than countries with low incomes. The peculiarity is that rich states have "fuel for the economy" - money, and by "filling" the wallets of their citizens through auxiliary payments, they will start an "engine" - the consumer market, which will quickly return the money to the budget in the form of taxes and other fees. But in countries where the state has limited opportunities to help citizens, and there are strict restrictive measures during a pandemic, the launch of their "economic engine" will apparently be delayed or very weak. Unfortunately, this is the reality. That is why poor countries need to look for alternative ways to launch the economy, otherwise they will face global problems

^ I probably think not only in the country of US, but most countries as of now suffered outrage job opportunities and they also cant create job since pandemic was still there. However, people have different ways to solve this problem and we are very lucky enough that we are here having an extra income, but if you will say that it becomes 100% to feed your family, I think not enough, better to find another solution. Nevertheless, industrialization can produce more open jobs for jobless people but we care about avoiding social physical contact, what are those? Probably related to online business.

Well, I used to encourage the kind of things you want for the developed countries but recently changed my mind after having fair understanding why the society I'm currently living in behave the way they behave while being somewhat resistant to "change or new things". I learned alot from this behavior (or way of life) and its benefits in this pandemic period.
I won't be surprised if they are neglected by certain governments due to this way of life, or the governments do not understand how to develop them the right way without affecting a lot of the good part of the culture.

Stimulus should be used for food and survival not for investment because people who are really jobless may not use it for anything other than food and tackling the unemployment is a long time process and the stimulus is just a temporary solution and will do more harm to their economy in the long run.

I live in a tourist destination area where almost 90% of the people here work in the tourism industry.
Covid hits us badly. I have to fully cover my family.
This forum means a lot for me and my family during this pandemic situation.
Thanks to this forum (especially for campaign and contest by Casineos, Betnomi, IOI Games, Roobet, Duelbits, and Winz) for becoming my "side-hustle" since September last year.
Since my first job is about crypto too, it means my family lives 100% from crypto for almost a year now.
However, I am still wondering, what I have to do next.

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From practical observations:
- I myself was personally ill with Covid 19 at the beginning of December 2020, I saw how many people are in the hospital (the state clinic 4 out of 5 floors was modernized to accommodate Covid infected)
- "audience" of cases 80% middle age and younger, 20% elderly people. Unfortunately, the most difficult thing with the elderly is age and chronic diseases.
- youth and middle age are the basis of very small and small businesses, the bulk of buyers of goods and services. The disease "knocks out" them from life for 1-2-3 months, some have consequences - this is another 1-3 months "out of the market"
So it turns out, like the mortality rate is not very high (once again I ask you to objectively treat my words), but the transition to the off-line mode for people is massive. And this, as you understand - stop business, this is not the fulfillment of a business plan, this is a shortfall in taxes by the budget, etc. economic problems...
And this will be repeated more than once - the virus mutates, because vaccines so far only work for a certain mutation (not complex).

COVID-19 is a big factor for this sudden uprise in the joblessness not only in the US, but for most countries in the planet. I'm pretty sure that with enough support from the government and with utmost cooperation from the people, US will be able to recover and take care not only of the mortality rate COVID-19 caused, but the joblessness as well. A pretty good and sound insight regarding the issue. However, what caused COVID-19 to be feared among the masses that they would rather lose business than succumb to the disease is how deadly it is since there is no known cure up until now, besides the fact that it spreads so rapidly.

Covid19 inflicted the strongest economic blow around the world. Do not consider me a cynic, but the overall mortality rate cannot yet be called critically high and it is unlikely that it will increase significantly. It is comparable (about 2 million for the entire 2020) with mortality from seasonal viral diseases, alcohol consumption, smoking ... And it lags far behind the scale of regular mortality in the world from cardiovascular diseases, oncology, or the consequences of pollution of the surrounding country. But the distinguishing feature of Covid19 and the methods of its "containment" is quarantine, lockdown and similar measures that DESTROY business, often irreversibly. The question is whether the state has enough resources (to support citizens, business) and citizens (in order to live without their usual income, and the ability to resume their business)

I think you're underestimating how big of an issue/topic this currently is right now here in the United States.  The whole reason for the stimulus is due to job losses.  I also don't think that the media necessarily ignored underdeveloped nations, it's just not something that would normally be covered from day to day.  The US under President Biden is also taking climate change very seriously, rejoining the Parris Accord and other things of that nature...the Republican party cares very little about the environment, this is true, but now the Democratic party owns the house and senate and plan to make a lot of changes in this regard.

A lot of people not just in America have been put into a situation that they never thought would happen. Covid19 created a huge impact on the economy. Leaving a lot of people jobless, and that's devastating. It is necessary now that the government will focus their attention on how to develop better ways to avoid this unemployment rate increases, that'll hit the economy and the people of the country.

The leader of the country must hold accountable to its countrymen. That's one of the ways to save their economy. People are going hungry, getting sick, losing their businesses and job. They should help them, like giving economic benefits, food, and other financial assistance.

In past years, the US government spent tax revenues towards outsourcing american jobs to nations like china.


Not many follow the news closely enough to have an accurate idea of current events.

Which makes it difficult for any form of real change to occur in the world.

And there's one more problem that we will surely be worry in the future, automation and AI. Just with the recent news of Tech Mahindra, they're replacing their workforce with AI technology.

This is alarming while we're enjoying the innovation.

News: AI impact: Tech Mahindra to cut BPO staff by 5,000 despite rising revenues

Although there really are jobs that can't be replaced by AI but sure, a lot will be affected on this if it keeps going.

There is actually quite a lot more, the 10 million number is just how many people applied for unemployment checks, that has always been the case how it is calculated, even if it is refused by some republicans and considered the only amount, the real fact is that 10 million people reported that they are unemployed, if you have no job but didn't reported that to anyone in anywhere, you are not on this list even if you have no job.

The sad part about the fact that Trump left this kind of horrible situation in USA's lap before he left is the fact that it is going to take more than even 4 years to clear this economical problem up and have a decent economy again, by which time I am 100% sure republicans will try to get back the control and destroy the economy once again, it is a never ending story that a republican ruins the economy, democrat fixes it and republican gets back and destroys it again, always been like that.

Are they already industrialized?  Among the top countries that have the biggest emissions are US and China, which makes it easy to figure there are manufacturing companies running.  They were greatly affected by the virus because there is just too much liberty given to people there. Even the use of face masks has to be protested when the only they should just do is follow for their safety. When corona is over, the jobs will be back. Its a lot harder to lift the economy instantly, all countries are affected. Its not just US.

     I really do sympathize with this post. There truly is a big need for jobs and other alternative ways to earn money specially in the underdeveloped and developing countries all over the world. If nothing is done about this, the world will be in chaos. Governments should be more considerate with the people they are governing. People are dying and not only because of the virus itself but also with the economical damages that it brings. Although everyone has a responsibility to help themselves, it is very hard for most of the people to really do something because of restrictions or the lack of resources and opportunities. If only every elected government official are both smart and compassionate.

I like to think of this as *Hidden crisis*

The economy is in a state of crisis but people try to stretch it as far as I can , but how do they do it without the dollar collapsing?

They use the reserves , so the rich county will have more elasticity.

When we are thinking about the situation In America we get to know that stimulus is far too big to not have been affecting dollars but experts believe that the value of dollar will go down by 20-30% this Year , the people in the stock markets have stopped using USD as a reserve. There are many countries like Ukraine who hold USD as reserves , the private banks were advised to sell off all there USD to protect their own currency so I think the worse the situation is going to get the harder it will collapse but it might be too slow to notice.

I think we don't just have to protect our investments but we have to stop spending things on irrelevant things. We have a saying in our homeland "drop by drop is what makes the ocean"

Stocks are high because they are trading frantically during this time getting benefited from the low price of stocks ! But they are also pumping it up indirectly.

These are astonishing numbers and have me worried now as well. How can the numbers be so high but the economy is not yet in full downswing? There seems to be a divergence between the real economy and the stock market. How can we have stocks near their All time Highs while on the same time jobless numbers are rising so high. I think it is time to for us to protect our investments. We should look for some hedge to protect us in case the stock market follows down the economy. 

The COVID-19 Pandemic had and is taking a toll on small to medium employers.
Many of which have been forced to close and will unfortunately not re-open
when things get back to some form of normality.

There is a big shift from people visiting physical stores to shopping online which reduces
the need for people to be employed. Stimulus packages can only go far because I
suspect online shopping will continue to be the norm.

American seem like the picture of world focus but many countries are worse in the effect of covid-19 on the economy and people. Many countries were already facing 50% level of unemployment, underemployment and joblessness and their government are confuse about it and not understand what can be done to help the people.

America government is proactive and Biden has continued from the stimulus package to the people which is still the best thing to do while taking other solution to create employment. I'm sure the situation in American unemployment situation will take a new positive direction in little more time.

The problem with the joblessness in America is that they are the cultural melting pot which means that a lot of people from all over the world are dreaming to go and work there especially the people that comes from poor countries and it is not their fault that they dream that, that was the American dream that was advertised. Another problem is the racism that is slowly rearing its head, it doesn't necessarily affect joblessness but there are American citizen that have different ethnicities and people are slowly regressing back to the dark part of their history dooming to repeat it, meaning that discriminating in job application and workplace itself becomes more prevalent because racist people was given a voice because of the Internet. But the biggest problem of them all is the systematic abuse that the 1% of the population are doing, making a big progress on automation without considering the displaced workers, salary is still the same for almost 12 years or so, tax write offs and being so privileged.

I do think we already know that America is one of the most influential and at the same time well off countries in the world but despite this fact the economic impact of the pandemic did some drastic changes there. The Americans have reported having millions of jobless people in their country alone.  MILLIONS! According to the data 9.9 Million people are jobless in America ( it was 1.2 million at the start of the pandemic)
Data is taken from here: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/business/economy/january-2021-jobs-report.html

Now I am worried about American economy for sure. But the people do have access to stimulus bills from the government which is not even low to be honest. The government does have money but they are not using it right. They should invest more in setting up new generation environment friendly factories with zero waste emission in small small towns and employee people , but let's leave it at that... What should we be more worried about ??
About countries like : Africa, India , why is no one talking about them ? Media coverage does not include the underdeveloped and the developing Nations. With the rise of the new Variant the graph might overshoot again let alone the studies of long term health problems of covid scare people but we do need : JOBS

Government has to create Job opportunities for the people!
They can get sustainable benefits from the same since import export can be avoided if people started production at their home country. We might need a new industrial revolution but this time should be more sustainable ofcourse.

{small note: Kudos to the bitcoin community in helping provide jobs through Campaigns and competitions , there is always something available in the service section }

People are talking about stimulus.
But who will talk about the joblessness which is spreading like a disease far more destructive than COVID.

Should the developed countries try and go for industrialization? Let's discuss!