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Quote from: Quickseller on June 29, 2015, 09:47:21 AM

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 29, 2015, 09:29:44 AM

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Trust ratings are meaningless here. This is how trust works:

[]http://s17.postimg.org/7ioymnagv/Capture.png[/img]

(logged into an old account of mine, BespokeServicesLTD, now banned, thanks scumbag mods)

Not suggesting a screencap is proof, but mods can verify this is genuine Undecided

that screen shot is fake. That account didn't even send him negative trust. You are trolling.

I am sure by now that you are paying a fee to be able to post. Is it really worth paying to be able to troll?

You are wrong. How about this:
I don't think you're trying to scam, just clueless. So let's make a gentlemen's bet:
I give you the password to that account, you log in, and see for yourself.
If you're wrong, you apologize, and never post on Bitcointalk again.

Deal, interweb sleuth?

Thanks but I think I'll pass. Nothing in it for me

How about I sweeten the deal: Do you trust Xialla? I can PM Xialla the password, and if the screencap is genuine, all you have to do is make a single post in this thread, admitting that you are wrong, and, since you tend to make ridiculous claims and are clueless, should never be taken seriously.
In turn, I promise to post whatever you feel is appropriate.

Deal?

you can report the PM to an admin asking them to post it here. If I am wrong then I will admit I am wrong.

I don't want you to post anything. You are annoying and a troll.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 29, 2015, 09:29:44 AM

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Trust ratings are meaningless here. This is how trust works:

[]http://s17.postimg.org/7ioymnagv/Capture.png[/img]

(logged into an old account of mine, BespokeServicesLTD, now banned, thanks scumbag mods)

Not suggesting a screencap is proof, but mods can verify this is genuine Undecided

that screen shot is fake. That account didn't even send him negative trust. You are trolling.

I am sure by now that you are paying a fee to be able to post. Is it really worth paying to be able to troll?

You are wrong. How about this:
I don't think you're trying to scam, just clueless. So let's make a gentlemen's bet:
I give you the password to that account, you log in, and see for yourself.
If you're wrong, you apologize, and never post on Bitcointalk again.

Deal, interweb sleuth?

Thanks but I think I'll pass. Nothing in it for me

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Trust ratings are meaningless here. This is how trust works:

[]http://s17.postimg.org/7ioymnagv/Capture.png[/img]

(logged into an old account of mine, BespokeServicesLTD, now banned, thanks scumbag mods)

Not suggesting a screencap is proof, but mods can verify this is genuine Undecided

that screen shot is fake. That account didn't even send him negative trust. You are trolling.

I am sure by now that you are paying a fee to be able to post. Is it really worth paying to be able to troll?

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thanks for evidence, anyway why is trust rating made by your second account removed now? you did it or some mods?

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 29, 2015, 08:59:45 AM

However almost no one will care on 'Untrusted feedback' (i.e. feedback from people not from DefaultTrust's trust list), especially for those have no reference and stating fake things/trolling.

well and this is whole point...because even you are not painted red on forum post, once somebody will check your profile, if it is red, it is just not trustworthly at all and for me doesn't matter so much if you had 10 red from noobs or 2 red from DT2 users..

trust system is generally sick and I really hope, that it will be redesigned on new forum..

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 27, 2015, 08:31:31 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on June 27, 2015, 07:49:19 PM

Lesson of the day: never open a thread to complain about troll trust ratings. Things will get worse in the end, much worse

true, no-one will take my ratings seriously now

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No one takes trust ratings serious anyway.

They are completely useless due to non moderation and the ease of feedback farming.

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The trust ratings from DefaultTrust (depth 2) matters because they affect the value of the account and it will affect the reputation because a 'Warning! Trade with extreme caution' tag will appear at the profile and the user's posts if they have negative feedback from trusted members. However almost no one will care on 'Untrusted feedback' (i.e. feedback from people not from DefaultTrust's trust list), especially for those have no reference and stating fake things/trolling.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 27, 2015, 08:31:31 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on June 27, 2015, 07:49:19 PM

Lesson of the day: never open a thread to complain about troll trust ratings. Things will get worse in the end, much worse

true, no-one will take my ratings seriously now

@Digital_Lord

No one takes trust ratings serious anyway.

They are completely useless due to non moderation and the ease of feedback farming.

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Quote from: 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJu on June 27, 2015, 02:10:18 AM

to keep trusted system from spamer seems we need to change the order of the trusted feedback
may be newbie can't give negative/positif feedback, only Sr. member above can give feedback Undecided

i think it will be much better if untrusted feedback will have 2 sections, one from Sr Member and higher ranks and another is from Full Members and below to avoid trust spam

I agree it because some time
i see new member created just for give neagative trust and and just for troll only

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Quote from: Omikifuse on June 27, 2015, 07:49:19 PM

Lesson of the day: never open a thread to complain about troll trust ratings. Things will get worse in the end, much worse

true, no-one will take my ratings seriously now

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Lesson of the day: never open a thread to complain about troll trust ratings. Things will get worse in the end, much worse

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Quote from: 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJu on June 27, 2015, 02:10:18 AM

to keep trusted system from spamer seems we need to change the order of the trusted feedback
may be newbie can't give negative/positif feedback, only Sr. member above can give feedback Undecided

i think it will be much better if untrusted feedback will have 2 sections, one from Sr Member and higher ranks and another is from Full Members and below to avoid trust spam

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to keep trusted system from spamer seems we need to change the order of the trusted feedback
may be newbie can't give negative/positif feedback, only Sr. member above can give feedback Undecided

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wtf I'm hallucinating or even Tomatocage left a troll positive feedback regarding the, errrr, penis issue:

Digital_Lord does indeed have a penis. His boyfriend told me so.

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Quote from: ajareselde on June 26, 2015, 12:44:18 PM

Things like this show just how much moderating trust is needed. I don't where's the problem in giving one or two staff members the job of trust moderation,
or hire a new one that would do that. It's not like they are swamped with moderation today when so many users help in preventing spam and scams.
For leading forum representing a revolutionary way of payment, this is a shame imo.

cheers

I don't think trust spam is a good enough reason to make moderation a necessity. those spams are worthless, they don't damage the trust system as much as some people from the default trust do.

IMO we only need some set of official rules and a sub board to make a topic in when someone breaks them. not moderation

I'm not only talking about trust spam, it's a whole range from that, to fake loans and rep abuse. To people that don't have feedback from anyone on default trust, such feedbacks DO matter.
And what you wrote above is useless if there's noone to enforce those rules, hence moderation is obviously needed.

cheers

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Lol. It seems that by creating this thread, the OP went from having one negative rating that no one will take seriously to having a bunch of trolling ratings on his profile that will cause most of his ratings be overall not taken seriously, and the ones on his profile that do not include trades should certainly not be taken seriously.

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brb keeping up with the Kardashians

There you go, man. I hope this helps

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Quote from: ajareselde on June 26, 2015, 12:44:18 PM

Things like this show just how much moderating trust is needed. I don't where's the problem in giving one or two staff members the job of trust moderation,
or hire a new one that would do that. It's not like they are swamped with moderation today when so many users help in preventing spam and scams.
For leading forum representing a revolutionary way of payment, this is a shame imo.

cheers

I don't think trust spam is a good enough reason to make moderation a necessity. those spams are worthless, they don't damage the trust system as much as some people from the default trust do.

IMO we only need some set of official rules and a sub board to make a topic in when someone breaks them. not moderation

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Things like this show just how much moderating trust is needed. I don't where's the problem in giving one or two staff members the job of trust moderation,
or hire a new one that would do that. It's not like they are swamped with moderation today when so many users help in preventing spam and scams.
For leading forum representing a revolutionary way of payment, this is a shame imo.

cheers

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 25, 2015, 06:43:48 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on June 25, 2015, 06:21:23 PM

If some banned users to leave you a false feedback, then it probably don't show up as a default trust in the future, because most members in default trust won't give this kind of random feedback. You may negative feedback him as 'He left a false feedback in my profile'.

This has been said 4 or 5 times in the thread before, lets hope the mods will see pass all the words and mark this as spam

Nope, because along with some existing points, I've added some new points into it. So if mods are watching through this thread and every word of my reply, then they won't delete the reply.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Just to make you feel better since you're a newbie I doubled the amount of risked BTC left by the banned user and countered his claim of "has no penis" with

"I can personally attest that BuddyIsrael is incorrect, Digital_Lord in fact does have a penis!"

Let me know if this helps.

Grin

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 25, 2015, 06:21:23 PM

If some banned users to leave you a false feedback, then it probably don't show up as a default trust in the future, because most members in default trust won't give this kind of random feedback. You may negative feedback him as 'He left a false feedback in my profile'.

This has been said 4 or 5 times in the thread before, lets hope the mods will see pass all the words and mark this as spam

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If some banned users to leave you a false feedback, then it probably don't show up as a default trust in the future, because most members in default trust won't give this kind of random feedback. You may negative feedback him as 'He left a false feedback in my profile'.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Nobody is going to take a negative rating from an untrusted newbie user seriously - especially one that says "has no penis" as the description. Tomatocage is one of the most reputable members of the forum and has escrowed hundreds of trades over the past several years but if you look at his trust, you'll see numerous negative ratings from untrusted users (in fact, his untrusted feedback is actually more negative than positive).

Examples:

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He loves the cock.

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sucks the biggest donkey dick anyone can fit in their mouth

Link: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=37522

Theymos (who owns the forum and therefore could delete his incorrect trust ratings if he wanted to) has several as well. Just like in the case with Tomatocage above, his untrusted feedback is more negative than positive:

Link: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=35

Even Satoshi has some too:

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Got me as a "partner", then left with all generated revenue.

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created a currency without any economics background

Link: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3

So yeah, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Wink

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Quote from: Malin Keshar on June 23, 2015, 10:31:21 PM

Banned users aren't supposed to be allowed to leave trust, are they?

banned users can leave feedbacks, apparently. (not sure if the rules have changed, tho)

and I wouldn't worry too much about that feedback, OP. you should see dogie/Quickseller/Vod's

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Quote from: Malin Keshar on June 23, 2015, 10:31:21 PM

Banned users aren't supposed to be allowed to leave trust, are they?

probably the trust feedback is left before the user is banned.

the last post of the user who gave the negative feedback is from June 08, 2015, 01:33:13 AM and he left the trust feedback on June 07 2015

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Banned users aren't supposed to be allowed to leave trust, are they?

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 10:05:24 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:57:11 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:56:04 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Why don't you explain why you think this is even in the realm of possibility? I think it is fairly certain that he is a scammer and will never either be trusted nor be in anyone who is reputable's trust list

Well a few months ago, cryptoforcause had red trust, i came back and it was green and now look at it, do you see the point?

cryptoforcause was never on default trust. The reason why he had a positive rating was because he was engaging in trust farming, which is very difficult to do once you are already outed as a scammer as the person in question is.

Trust farming?? how did he do that?

he is faking trades. asking a user in the default trust to be an escrow on a trade with cryptoforcause account A and account B then after the trade the escrow would leave positive feedback for the trade which went smooth. he is doing it over and over again.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:57:11 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:56:04 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Why don't you explain why you think this is even in the realm of possibility? I think it is fairly certain that he is a scammer and will never either be trusted nor be in anyone who is reputable's trust list

Well a few months ago, cryptoforcause had red trust, i came back and it was green and now look at it, do you see the point?

cryptoforcause was never on default trust. The reason why he had a positive rating was because he was engaging in trust farming, which is very difficult to do once you are already outed as a scammer as the person in question is.

Trust farming?? how did he do that?

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:56:04 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Why don't you explain why you think this is even in the realm of possibility? I think it is fairly certain that he is a scammer and will never either be trusted nor be in anyone who is reputable's trust list

Well a few months ago, cryptoforcause had red trust, i came back and it was green and now look at it, do you see the point?

cryptoforcause was never on default trust. The reason why he had a positive rating was because he was engaging in trust farming, which is very difficult to do once you are already outed as a scammer as the person in question is.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 23, 2015, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Why don't you explain why you think this is even in the realm of possibility? I think it is fairly certain that he is a scammer and will never either be trusted nor be in anyone who is reputable's trust list

Well a few months ago, cryptoforcause had red trust, i came back and it was green and now look at it, do you see the point?

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

that is most likely won't happen. but in the case he does, he will be imediately removed in the default trust because the feedback he gave to you will be seen as trust abuse and i believe users in default trust won't tolerate

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Why don't you explain why you think this is even in the realm of possibility? I think it is fairly certain that he is a scammer and will never either be trusted nor be in anyone who is reputable's trust list

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

Nope, won't happen.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:27:00 PM

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

You should have faith this won't happen.
In the unlikely event that it does happen, you can make a post in meta and he will be kicked out of default trust very quickly.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

no 1 can remove that trusted feedback i see some people try to troll with spaming neg trusted,,

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Quote from: KWH on June 23, 2015, 09:23:04 PM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

And what happens when he comes back after his ban and get trust from loads of green and fall into default trust???
I will be stuck whit the has no penis tag instead of a scammer tag

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Some have wild and provably errant pedophilia charges that have not been removed. This kind of trumps your "lack of penis" charge, no?
As was stated: Untrusted Feedback, no problem.

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Quote from: Digital_Lord on June 23, 2015, 09:11:30 PM

I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

Trust can't be moderated. Only he/she that give the trust can removed their feedback against you.
He's not is default trust anyway so there's nothing to worry about

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I have a negative rating from a banned user with red trust, he says that 33BTC was risked and for the comment he says Has no penis
can i have this manually removed please?

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