NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 300.

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 01:37:05 PM

Don't get me wrong, I am not a IOTA fanboy, I am holding 100 times more XEM than IOTA.
But even from IOTA we can learn something!
They did an amazing marketing job in a very short time!
Now back to NEM;)

I agree with you. However there are differences which have to be considered. Since its inception NEM is following a completely different approach. No hyping, solid work. IOTA has a $100+ millions fund (or actually the IOTA Foundation has) that can be used to do a lot of marketing activities and attract technologists and experts from different domains from all over the world.

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Quote from: Sekioh on November 24, 2017, 12:31:59 PM

Quote from: Zylon on November 15, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

Quote from: Sekioh on November 14, 2017, 10:02:26 PM

Can you explain what Catapult exactly is? Thank you.

Alex can do it better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEwy7o9x5I

Interesting video, thanks for the link Zylon!

You are welcome;)

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Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on November 24, 2017, 01:14:55 PM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:45:53 AM

Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on November 24, 2017, 07:16:42 AM

A lot of those subscribers on IOTA are paid for, if you notice and go to NEW postings you will see the amount of complaints they get but they are drowned out from reaching their front page. Instead you see very shady marketing tactics so IOTA's problems are not known to those barely finding out about the coin.

IOTA is not the only one to use such manipulation tactics, bitcointalk has recently been getting attacked by a botnet posting nonsense.

Be wary of these projects that claim to do the impossible.

It is not only IOTA, any other top 10 coin has more reddit readers.
And I don't think that it is all manipulated, it seems like there is a relation to the trading volume!

When there's over 354 TiIOTA locked away that users cannot get to and only one exchange that has it listed makes you wonder if it's not manipulated. Shocked

Not only that, when asking about when the funds will be sent to the users of IOTA, all you get is "You must not be doing all the steps correctly" from the same accounts that keep posting in that thread.

I am saying this as someone who has held IOTA since it was listed on the NXT AE by some of the early investors.

But this is a NEM discussion thread, let's get back to topic Cool

Don't get me wrong, I am not a IOTA fanboy, I am holding 100 times more XEM than IOTA.
But even from IOTA we can learn something!
They did an amazing marketing job in a very short time!
Now back to NEM;)

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:45:53 AM

Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on November 24, 2017, 07:16:42 AM

A lot of those subscribers on IOTA are paid for, if you notice and go to NEW postings you will see the amount of complaints they get but they are drowned out from reaching their front page. Instead you see very shady marketing tactics so IOTA's problems are not known to those barely finding out about the coin.

IOTA is not the only one to use such manipulation tactics, bitcointalk has recently been getting attacked by a botnet posting nonsense.

Be wary of these projects that claim to do the impossible.

It is not only IOTA, any other top 10 coin has more reddit readers.
And I don't think that it is all manipulated, it seems like there is a relation to the trading volume!

When there's over 354 TiIOTA locked away that users cannot get to and only one exchange that has it listed makes you wonder if it's not manipulated. Shocked

Not only that, when asking about when the funds will be sent to the users of IOTA, all you get is "You must not be doing all the steps correctly" from the same accounts that keep posting in that thread.

I am saying this as someone who has held IOTA since it was listed on the NXT AE by some of the early investors.

But this is a NEM discussion thread, let's get back to topic Cool

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Quote from: Zylon on November 15, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

Quote from: Sekioh on November 14, 2017, 10:02:26 PM

Can you explain what Catapult exactly is? Thank you.

Alex can do it better

:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEwy7o9x5I

Interesting video, thanks for the link Zylon!

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Im amazed with this project hoping your success

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For small investor nem not gift benefit just hold hope prize jump...harvesting need 10000 xem it like mining solo if u luck u get extra xem Sad

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Quote from: ruletheworld on November 24, 2017, 11:40:39 AM

Are there any examples that come to mind? It's possible that NEM isn't really designed to support certain types of features that new ICOs need, so the focus is not on them.

Well, for better or worse all of the focus is on speculation. And that goes for the increasing amount of professional money too.

NEM is focusing on business and utility. That is of course the most sensible path, but that arrives after the filthy manic phase. There's a risk it might be drowned out in the rush.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 24, 2017, 08:26:06 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:56:04 AM

I really hope that this is the right strategy, but for me it seems risky, because you can't compare our present situation to the situation we had in the past.
Big money is floating into the market, the total market cap is exploding, the competition is getting bigger day by day.
You can't fight a battle only on one side of the field...

I agree, but listening to the viewpoints of others has never been the leading team's strong point. They seem to be dead set on the blue ocean strategy. This is valid but it's also unhelpful to ignore all the things exploding elsewhere.

Are there any examples that come to mind? It's possible that NEM isn't really designed to support certain types of features that new ICOs need, so the focus is not on them.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 24, 2017, 08:26:06 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:56:04 AM

I really hope that this is the right strategy, but for me it seems risky, because you can't compare our present situation to the situation we had in the past.
Big money is floating into the market, the total market cap is exploding, the competition is getting bigger day by day.
You can't fight a battle only on one side of the field...

I agree, but listening to the viewpoints of others has never been the leading team's strong point. They seem to be dead set on the blue ocean strategy. This is valid but it's also unhelpful to ignore all the things exploding elsewhere.

Unfortunately true Sad

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:56:04 AM

I really hope that this is the right strategy, but for me it seems risky, because you can't compare our present situation to the situation we had in the past.
Big money is floating into the market, the total market cap is exploding, the competition is getting bigger day by day.
You can't fight a battle only on one side of the field...

I agree, but listening to the viewpoints of others has never been the leading team's strong point. They seem to be dead set on the blue ocean strategy. This is valid but it's also unhelpful to ignore all the things exploding elsewhere.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 24, 2017, 07:33:47 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:26:40 AM

No, I really hate pump-marketing! What I want is just let people know that there is an alternative to Ethereum/ Ripple / Dash etc.
Just tell them "Hey, we have the better and more secure technology" that's it! Most of the people in the crypto world still don't know anything about NEM.
Look at the big crypto-youtubers, they are treating NEM as it were invisible. They always talking about the Top 10 crypto coins but ignoring NEM completely.

NEM is still so unappreciated, it is unbelievable, and it is really hurting every day more and more by watching other coins getting the attention which NEM would deserve!

I'll guess that it's going to be purely business focused which means they'll advertise in places no crypto buyer ever, ever looks.

Hence I don't believe it'll have any effect on the price in the short term.

They've consistently shown zero interest in pandering to the normal crypto market. I don't see them changing now.

I really hope that this is the right strategy, but for me it seems risky, because you can't compare our present situation to the situation we had in the past.
Big money is floating into the market, the total market cap is exploding, the competition is getting bigger day by day.
You can't fight a battle only on one side of the field...

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Quote from: Arvydas77 on November 24, 2017, 07:12:33 AM

Ethereum got much hype from the ICO bubble and it will end one day very badly as all of the ICO's will fail together with all investments. Vitalik acts like a genius who probably he is but he must spend more time on coding instead of talking bullshit. I think that it is good for NEM to be silent as all hype projects will fail and then will be the time to re-enter market safely.

When the ICO bubble will burst the whole market will crash, not only Ethereum!
I am not a Ethereum holder, but I am sure that Ethereum will still play a huge role in the market!
Not because they are soo good, just because they are popular...look at Bitcoin, the crypto world is not rational!

Quote from: LemonAndFriesOne on November 24, 2017, 07:16:42 AM

A lot of those subscribers on IOTA are paid for, if you notice and go to NEW postings you will see the amount of complaints they get but they are drowned out from reaching their front page. Instead you see very shady marketing tactics so IOTA's problems are not known to those barely finding out about the coin.

IOTA is not the only one to use such manipulation tactics, bitcointalk has recently been getting attacked by a botnet posting nonsense.

Be wary of these projects that claim to do the impossible.

It is not only IOTA, any other top 10 coin has more reddit readers.
And I don't think that it is all manipulated, it seems like there is a relation to the trading volume!

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 07:26:40 AM

No, I really hate pump-marketing! What I want is just let people know that there is an alternative to Ethereum/ Ripple / Dash etc.
Just tell them "Hey, we have the better and more secure technology" that's it! Most of the people in the crypto world still don't know anything about NEM.
Look at the big crypto-youtubers, they are treating NEM as it were invisible. They always talking about the Top 10 crypto coins but ignoring NEM completely.

NEM is still so unappreciated, it is unbelievable, and it is really hurting every day more and more by watching other coins getting the attention which NEM would deserve!

I'll guess that it's going to be purely business focused which means they'll advertise in places no crypto buyer ever, ever looks.

Hence I don't believe it'll have any effect on the price in the short term.

They've consistently shown zero interest in pandering to the normal crypto market. I don't see them changing now.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 24, 2017, 07:03:16 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

If you're expecting their marketing to produce a pump you're probably going to be disappointed. It's likely to be a continuation of the real world courting of businesses.

Don't expect pumpy Youtube ads or flashing panels shouting 'Bitcoiners HATE them'.

No, I really hate pump-marketing! What I want is just let people know that there is an alternative to Ethereum/ Ripple / Dash etc.
Just tell them "Hey, we have the better and more secure technology" that's it! Most of the people in the crypto world still don't know anything about NEM.
Look at the big crypto-youtubers, they are treating NEM as it were invisible. They always talking about the Top 10 crypto coins but ignoring NEM completely.

NEM is still so unappreciated, it is unbelievable, and it is really hurting every day more and more by watching other coins getting the attention which NEM would deserve!

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 06:59:44 AM

Quote from: fragout on November 24, 2017, 06:17:45 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

They are marketing i believe but mainly to businesses through various talks. There is also the weekly youtube videos which are very good but not published very much.
I agree though that more should be done on the public side of things as brand awareness is so important. Look at Eth and the way they got attention.
There is no point in having the best tech if no one knows about it.
The crypto scene moves very fast and every platform is fighting for attention. Nem needs to fight also.

I agree!
The NEM team is talking about the big community grow in the last months, but this get's ridiculous when you compare it to other coins.
Just take a look at IOTA, they are in the market for about 6 months now! They have over 30,000 reddit readers, NEM has 7,700 !! what the hell is going on?
I am sorry to say this, but this is a shame for NEM!
I am really a huge fan of NEM and will not sell one XEM, but we have to be honest and try to solve the problems which are obvious!

A lot of those subscribers on IOTA are paid for, if you notice and go to NEW postings you will see the amount of complaints they get but they are drowned out from reaching their front page. Instead you see very shady marketing tactics so IOTA's problems are not known to those barely finding out about the coin.

IOTA is not the only one to use such manipulation tactics, bitcointalk has recently been getting attacked by a botnet posting nonsense.

Be wary of these projects that claim to do the impossible.

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Quote from: fragout on November 24, 2017, 06:17:45 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

They are marketing i believe but mainly to businesses through various talks. There is also the weekly youtube videos which are very good but not published very much.
I agree though that more should be done on the public side of things as brand awareness is so important. Look at Eth and the way they got attention.
There is no point in having the best tech if no one knows about it.
The crypto scene moves very fast and every platform is fighting for attention. Nem needs to fight also.

Ethereum got much hype from the ICO bubble and it will end one day very badly as all of the ICO's will fail together with all investments. Vitalik acts like a genius who probably he is but he must spend more time on coding instead of talking bullshit. I think that it is good for NEM to be silent as all hype projects will fail and then will be the time to re-enter market safely.

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

If you're expecting their marketing to produce a pump you're probably going to be disappointed. It's likely to be a continuation of the real world courting of businesses.

Don't expect pumpy Youtube ads or flashing panels shouting 'Bitcoiners HATE them'.

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Quote from: fragout on November 24, 2017, 06:17:45 AM

Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

They are marketing i believe but mainly to businesses through various talks. There is also the weekly youtube videos which are very good but not published very much.
I agree though that more should be done on the public side of things as brand awareness is so important. Look at Eth and the way they got attention.
There is no point in having the best tech if no one knows about it.
The crypto scene moves very fast and every platform is fighting for attention. Nem needs to fight also.

I agree!
The NEM team is talking about the big community grow in the last months, but this get's ridiculous when you compare it to other coins.
Just take a look at IOTA, they are in the market for about 6 months now! They have over 30,000 reddit readers, NEM has 7,700 !! what the hell is going on?
I am sorry to say this, but this is a shame for NEM!
I am really a huge fan of NEM and will not sell one XEM, but we have to be honest and try to solve the problems which are obvious!

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Quote from: Zylon on November 24, 2017, 04:25:26 AM

Guys, I remember that Long said that NEM will order a big marketing agency next year!
Do you guys know where I got this from, or was it a dream! Cheesy

And yes, we need marketing urgently!
We are still wasting time, the market is growing so fast at the moment, but NEM is fading into darkness.
We are maybe losing a unique opportunity!
I don't understand why NEM can't do simple basic advertisement?
Do some advertisement in cointelegraph or Google, Facebook, whatever...
Just to let people know that we are alive!

They are marketing i believe but mainly to businesses through various talks. There is also the weekly youtube videos which are very good but not published very much.
I agree though that more should be done on the public side of things as brand awareness is so important. Look at Eth and the way they got attention.
There is no point in having the best tech if no one knows about it.
The crypto scene moves very fast and every platform is fighting for attention. Nem needs to fight also.

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