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what a hassle to go through, playing detective for mtgox.
Centralization. Always bad. No exceptions.
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what a hassle to go through, playing detective for mtgox.
Centralization. Always bad. No exceptions. No, wrong. That's exactly what the client will do on its own. If I send you 2 separate payments to the same address, they stay as two separate payments to that address. And if you spend them both at once, they'll show up as two inputs from the same address in the transaction. That's the only time that separate payments ever get 'mixed'.
I should have known that. Thanks for clarifying! I found in the wiki a little more explanation:
- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions#Input
I saw how BlockExplorers shows that a single address ( 1NRy8GbX56MymBhDYMyqsNKwW9VupqKVG7 ) shows twice as inputs in that transaction so was thinking this was some script-fu to cause the length to be 1337. The client won't do that on its own though, right?
No, wrong. That's exactly what the client will do on its own. If I send you 2 separate payments to the same address, they stay as two separate payments to that address. And if you spend them both at once, they'll show up as two inputs from the same address in the transaction. That's the only time that separate payments ever get 'mixed'.
Seems coincidental.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!
I saw how BlockExplorers shows that a single address ( 1NRy8GbX56MymBhDYMyqsNKwW9VupqKVG7 ) shows twice as inputs in that transaction so was thinking this was some script-fu to cause the length to be 1337. The client won't do that on its own though, right?
- http://blockexplorer.com/tx/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
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Wouldn't a 'leet' thief modify their bitcoin client to make all the 7/2 transactions use a size of exactly 1337?
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Seems coincidental.
If I had done it, they would have all been 8008135 bytes each.
The exact number was 1337.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
The digits look like "LEET", as in "elite".
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
The digits look like "LEET", as in "elite".
while I hope they catch the guy I have to pull my hat to this move - it's almost blockchain art.
I was just looking at it. I recently made a post on stackexchange explaining how to calculate the size of a transaction before you send it: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/3011/659
( "if your transaction has in inputs and out outputs, the transaction size, in bytes will be: in*180 + out*34 + 10 plus or minus 'in' )
It turns out that if your transaction has 7 inputs and 2 outputs, then the transaction size is 1338 plus/minus 7, but with a binomial distribution. This means that 1338 is the most common size (21% of 7-in, 2-out transactions), then 1337 and 1339 are the next most common (18.3% each), etc. Over 94% of 7-in 2-out transactions have a size between 1335 and 1341 inclusive. So perhaps the 1337 *was* just a coincidence. It's not a rare transaction size.
Looking at the first ten 7-in 2-out transactions made by the thief while laundering his spoils, we see a random distribution of transaction sizes:
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size 1337 - tx d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
size 1337 - tx 4533991cd3072d04ffbae4bc97ac0d69c4111d2266a99a2a3853eb28acf87315
size 1340 - tx d396e1f3117c7516270e68041f50183540aeece29860a8d8bb4ca00b4dd5b202
size 1336 - tx afea4f38c1a6c42303e41462df5671aaeb439f047808cc330b911668446d3b9a
size 1340 - tx eaa4390039b8c31fe8e2c7af80494eb47ccbd4456906b461c20e58bea7a38aff
size 1339 - tx 50fe1017ea020e0f20f45cb71d855dc8f935e5db654824f7355ae0258d5fc897
size 1337 - tx 3472d8d9bcda865fbf3c34f68e4c87dc85b8fac0d37495cf2d29e887fb033532
size 1340 - tx ea49f5cd1998a218023a4f1b9f6eff6fe3a5ce41e2c3cb71640e1205b92dc44d
size 1336 - tx 8c05029e5d2b49d1cf7881f29fc3978632f858620efaeb58fb5cb5abc5ec4611
size 1338 - tx d5c18faaa0f4daf8440b20905ef8a6eba49f09aa6178af115b51b35110eb34d6
size 1337 - tx 4533991cd3072d04ffbae4bc97ac0d69c4111d2266a99a2a3853eb28acf87315
size 1340 - tx d396e1f3117c7516270e68041f50183540aeece29860a8d8bb4ca00b4dd5b202
size 1336 - tx afea4f38c1a6c42303e41462df5671aaeb439f047808cc330b911668446d3b9a
size 1340 - tx eaa4390039b8c31fe8e2c7af80494eb47ccbd4456906b461c20e58bea7a38aff
size 1339 - tx 50fe1017ea020e0f20f45cb71d855dc8f935e5db654824f7355ae0258d5fc897
size 1337 - tx 3472d8d9bcda865fbf3c34f68e4c87dc85b8fac0d37495cf2d29e887fb033532
size 1340 - tx ea49f5cd1998a218023a4f1b9f6eff6fe3a5ce41e2c3cb71640e1205b92dc44d
size 1336 - tx 8c05029e5d2b49d1cf7881f29fc3978632f858620efaeb58fb5cb5abc5ec4611
size 1338 - tx d5c18faaa0f4daf8440b20905ef8a6eba49f09aa6178af115b51b35110eb34d6
Wouldn't a 'leet' thief modify their bitcoin client to make all the 7/2 transactions use a size of exactly 1337?
After a first sweep to consolidate stolen coins the thief's next movement was a transaction for 25,000 BTC. The size for that transaction was 1337 bytes. Someone with sufficient skill to create a transaction so that its size is specifically a certain number of bytes is going to know what steps are necessary to avoid detection.
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
I'm not sure I understand the significance of a transaction being an exact number of bytes, other than a smaller transaction having a higher priority. Care to explain?
The exact number was 1337.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
The digits look like "LEET", as in "elite".
while I hope they catch the guy I have to pull my hat to this move - it's almost blockchain art.
edit: it was only coincidence, read below
After a first sweep to consolidate stolen coins the thief's next movement was a transaction for 25,000 BTC. The size for that transaction was 1337 bytes. Someone with sufficient skill to create a transaction so that its size is specifically a certain number of bytes is going to know what steps are necessary to avoid detection.
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
I'm not sure I understand the significance of a transaction being an exact number of bytes, other than a smaller transaction having a higher priority. Care to explain?
The exact number was 1337.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
The digits look like "LEET", as in "elite".
After a first sweep to consolidate stolen coins the thief's next movement was a transaction for 25,000 BTC. The size for that transaction was 1337 bytes. Someone with sufficient skill to create a transaction so that its size is specifically a certain number of bytes is going to know what steps are necessary to avoid detection.
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
I'm not sure I understand the significance of a transaction being an exact number of bytes, other than a smaller transaction having a higher priority. Care to explain?
I saw a post here yesterday where the user explored the trail of the allinvain heist of 25,000 BTC. Since that occurred (what, 9 months ago or so?) it can now be traced into almost a million addresses including 9 of the poster himself.
That was me.
It's 100k addresses, and 8 of mine, but you were close.
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/2900/659
I saw a post here yesterday where the user explored the trail of the allinvain heist of 25,000 BTC. Since that occurred (what, 9 months ago or so?) it can now be traced into almost a million addresses including 9 of the poster himself.
That was me.
It's 100k addresses, and 8 of mine, but you were close.
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/2900/659
An investigation that would lead to what exactly?
If he used his own pc without tor or proxy or used the account for usd deposits/withdrawals, locating him might be possible.
After a first sweep to consolidate stolen coins the thief's next movement was a transaction for 25,000 BTC. The size for that transaction was 1337 bytes. Someone with sufficient skill to create a transaction so that its size is specifically a certain number of bytes is going to know what steps are necessary to avoid detection.
- http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2893660/d9804de366aa4c2a01565c3a3c8aa2ea20baafc276dc875f80b9044841205333
- http://blockchain.info/tree/2893660
I don't know how much cryptoxchange is involved but whomever's account sold the coins is a good spot to start the investigation. There are posts all over the forum about the stolen BTC and where a good portion are right now.
An investigation that would lead to what exactly?If he used his own pc without tor or proxy or used the account for usd deposits/withdrawals, locating him might be possible.
So thief puts coins on CryptoXchange to sell. The price is driven down as buyers flock over to get some cheap coins - arbitrage. Then they hear that the coins are coming from the theft and start to avoid because they're worried they'll be held up and don't want the hassle. So the volume dries up and CryptoXchange realizes that to stay liquid and competitive with other exchanges they need to watch for stolen coins like MtGox.
this.
Watching.
Sorry, but this is MtGox self-appointing themselves as BTC police. Beats me how can they require anything outside of their ToS on the spot and without any warnings. The truth of the matter is that they cannot prove these coins got to this user legitimately or not while we preserve anonymous transactions in the system. The only way would be to enforce identification for all transactions and even then it's possible to fake an identity.
Now I'm keeping my public keys as private as I can, lest someone "donate" coins to me out of the blue and taint me.
But it is in their TOS. And I saw a post here yesterday where the user explored the trail of the allinvain heist of 25,000 BTC. Since that occurred (what, 9 months ago or so?) it can now be traced into almost a million addresses including 9 of the poster himself. So pretty much all coins get tainted over time. That isn't at all what MtGox is looking at. I'm pretty sure they're looking at ones where investigating may help trace how they got to the member. To be useful at all this would limit it to just a few transactions in depth. Maybe even just one deep.Now I'm keeping my public keys as private as I can, lest someone "donate" coins to me out of the blue and taint me.
MtGox is looking at the closest tainted coins I guess. Taint (properly calculated) wouldn't be binary. Over time that would grow exponentially, as you said. But you can have likelihood measures of taint, in proportion to the size and length (sequential number) of transactions. This doesn't stop anyone from randomly giving you a significant amount of stolen coins, just because you have some already, making you immediately highly suspicious.
Sorry, but this is MtGox self-appointing themselves as BTC police. Beats me how can they require anything outside of their ToS on the spot and without any warnings. The truth of the matter is that they cannot prove these coins got to this user legitimately or not while we preserve anonymous transactions in the system. The only way would be to enforce identification for all transactions and even then it's possible to fake an identity.
Now I'm keeping my public keys as private as I can, lest someone "donate" coins to me out of the blue and taint me.
But it is in their TOS. And I saw a post here yesterday where the user explored the trail of the allinvain heist of 25,000 BTC. Since that occurred (what, 9 months ago or so?) it can now be traced into almost a million addresses including 9 of the poster himself. So pretty much all coins get tainted over time. That isn't at all what MtGox is looking at. I'm pretty sure they're looking at ones where investigating may help trace how they got to the member. To be useful at all this would limit it to just a few transactions in depth. Maybe even just one deep. Now I'm keeping my public keys as private as I can, lest someone "donate" coins to me out of the blue and taint me.
They will not confiscate the bitcoins
i wouldn't be so quick to assume that.
i'm sure that assumption is based on the amount, 7 btc, right?
what if it had been 7000 btc or 43000 btc? would mtgox confiscate them then? i'm thinking 'yes'.
Sorry, but this is MtGox self-appointing themselves as BTC police. Beats me how can they require anything outside of their ToS on the spot and without any warnings. The truth of the matter is that they cannot prove these coins got to this user legitimately or not while we preserve anonymous transactions in the system. The only way would be to enforce identification for all transactions and even then it's possible to fake an identity.
Now I'm keeping my public keys as private as I can, lest someone "donate" coins to me out of the blue and taint me.
uh oh 
I don't know how much cryptoxchange is involved but whomever's account sold the coins is a good spot to start the investigation. There are posts all over the forum about the stolen BTC and where a good portion are right now.
An investigation that would lead to what exactly?
So thief puts coins on CryptoXchange to sell. The price is driven down as buyers flock over to get some cheap coins - arbitrage. Then they hear that the coins are coming from the theft and start to avoid because they're worried they'll be held up and don't want the hassle. So the volume dries up and CryptoXchange realizes that to stay liquid and competitive with other exchanges they need to watch for stolen coins like MtGox.
I don't know how much cryptoxchange is involved but whomever's account sold the coins is a good spot to start the investigation. There are posts all over the forum about the stolen BTC and where a good portion are right now.
Problem I would say is whomever had the coins put some if not all coins on cryptoxchange. I think that would be a good spot to start. That might explain the growth of cryptoxchange and the high volumes traded there recently.
Good spot to start... what exactly?
Problem I would say is whomever had the coins put some if not all coins on cryptoxchange. I think that would be a good spot to start. That might explain the growth of cryptoxchange and the high volumes traded there recently.
Same here.
Password was wrong and never got a re-authetication email
The vendor i believe is a stand up person. After talking to him about what happened to me 2 other people have had this happen.
"He Say's" they went from crypto ->wallet ->mtgox
I have no reason to doubt him.
And i asked the vendor to verify what he said..He has showed me and sent in proof.
I believe the vendor %100. So Sorry MTGox but keep lookin
Password was wrong and never got a re-authetication email
The vendor i believe is a stand up person. After talking to him about what happened to me 2 other people have had this happen.
"He Say's" they went from crypto ->wallet ->mtgox
I have no reason to doubt him.
And i asked the vendor to verify what he said..He has showed me and sent in proof.
I believe the vendor %100. So Sorry MTGox but keep lookin
I was finally notified by mt. gox with an email like yours asking where they came from and tech support emailed at the same time saying my account was not locked. Pretty funny because it was locked and exactly 1 minute after I got the original email I got the one saying not locked and the account is working fine.
OP is not alone in this situation. The same thing has happened to my account and I will tell you where I got my coins from Cryptoxchange. I never thought $4.52 for a BTC was an outrageously low price so I bought 27 of them. I woke up this morning logged into gox seen price was higher than I paid so sent coins over to gox. A couple hours later tried to log into gox to sell coins and username password error. No contact or emails back from Gox at this point. It has been several hours with no answer.
After talking to the person i got the coins from,
Its so weird you said CryptoExchange..
Thats the same place he says he transferred them out of. But he says they first went to his wallet 0.o
He said they went from crypto to wallet to MTGOX via the address i gave him on my mtgox account
thats SOOOOO wierd
If true, this is really bad on MtGox part- to treat anyone who has tainted bitcoins as the thief. At the very least they should alert their client as to why their account is blocked.
In the first place there is nothing MtGox can do to "apprehend" the thief, its attempt to be sometype of policeman is pathetic. Secondly, withholding bitcoins is questionable at least, immoral and criminal at worst.
In the first place there is nothing MtGox can do to "apprehend" the thief, its attempt to be sometype of policeman is pathetic. Secondly, withholding bitcoins is questionable at least, immoral and criminal at worst.
OP is not alone in this situation. The same thing has happened to my account and I will tell you where I got my coins from Cryptoxchange. I never thought $4.52 for a BTC was an outrageously low price so I bought 27 of them. I woke up this morning logged into gox seen price was higher than I paid so sent coins over to gox. A couple hours later tried to log into gox to sell coins and username password error. No contact or emails back from Gox at this point. It has been several hours with no answer.
MtGox/others could create an interesting service and a neat profit if they really exploited these kinds of events by offering clean coins at a premium. They could then use the extra funds to hire #bitcoin-police or others to track down thieves and provide theft reporting and tainted coin tracking services. They would probably never do that, but someone might one day.
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Regarding stolen coins:
CoinExchanger.com has them (he's probably the hacker too)
CoinExchanger.com is an admittedly unregistered MLB (money license business) that must be registered by FinCEN within 6 months of opening their doors and sharing their first stored value. They have not done so and are in direct violation of federal law.
The owner of CoinExchanger.com is Leo Camilo, who advertises his address as 440 9th ave, New york, New York,10001 US and personal telephone number 1 (347) 469-1040.
His private email (search google) is [email protected].
He has publicly stated on multiple occasions that:
He also:
He is currently in possession of stolen Bitcoins from the Linode hack and any coins purchased from him will not be accepted by MtGox or anyone in the Bitcoin community.
CoinExchanger.com has them (he's probably the hacker too)
I am almost sure that bitcoinica.com is out of funds and they are keeping the site open to get more deposits and ponzi those deposits on those who want to withdrawal. The 17 year old just lost 250,000 Dollars and I doubt he has an extra 250K to cover his loss.
I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.
Visit, www.coinexchanger.com
We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.
I would encourage everyone to withdrawal your funds from bitcoinica and watch the shit hit the fan.
Visit, www.coinexchanger.com
We will lower our withdrawal fee in the next couple of days, in the meantime 9% is fair.
CoinExchanger.com is an admittedly unregistered MLB (money license business) that must be registered by FinCEN within 6 months of opening their doors and sharing their first stored value. They have not done so and are in direct violation of federal law.
The owner of CoinExchanger.com is Leo Camilo, who advertises his address as 440 9th ave, New york, New York,10001 US and personal telephone number 1 (347) 469-1040.
His private email (search google) is [email protected].
He has publicly stated on multiple occasions that:
- bitcoin is fake money, "monopoly money" and has no value and should not be trusted for this reason.
- his exchange is functional with a large user base, when not a single user has ever reportedly done business with him
- he is holding coins stolen from Zhou Tong's Bitcoinica and says "fuck you Zhou, you're just a stupid 17 year old kid, these coins are mine now" basically.
He also:
- goes under the sock puppet scammer account name "Maria"
- claims to be a millionaire and restaurant owner
He is currently in possession of stolen Bitcoins from the Linode hack and any coins purchased from him will not be accepted by MtGox or anyone in the Bitcoin community.
How would they know the coins were stolen?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
Yes of course they do.
You can always tell where they came from, just not always "who" they came from (if you know what I mean).
It's like this forum. You can always tell what account posted what message, but no one really knows who owns the forum account in real life.
This is not actually true, your statement about bitcoins. For a small percentage of users, "where" the Bitcoins came from is completely and totally obscured.
Contrary to all those people who say it's trivial to unmask Bitcoin users' identities..
(Right.. it's so trivial that the major thefts have all been located and returned..)
How would they know the coins were stolen?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
You can trace the addresses where coins have come from since Bitcoin basically is a public ledger.
We know they were stolen because Zhou Tong from Bitcoinica has published the addresses where the stolen coins went to.
Perhaps you can tell us at which exchange you got the coins?
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They will not confiscate the bitcoins
i wouldn't be so quick to assume that.
i'm sure that assumption is based on the amount, 7 btc, right?
what if it had been 7000 btc or 43000 btc? would mtgox confiscate them then? i'm thinking 'yes'.
note to self: launder my coins more often, no matter how innocent.
Send them all to me and I'll clean them for you
They will not confiscate the bitcoins
i wouldn't be so quick to assume that.
i'm sure that assumption is based on the amount, 7 btc, right?
what if it had been 7000 btc or 43000 btc? would mtgox confiscate them then? i'm thinking 'yes'.
note to self: launder my coins more often, no matter how innocent.
what a hassle to go through, playing detective for mtgox.
They will not confiscate the bitcoins
i wouldn't be so quick to assume that.
i'm sure that assumption is based on the amount, 7 btc, right?
what if it had been 7000 btc or 43000 btc? would mtgox confiscate them then? i'm thinking 'yes'.
They will not confiscate the bitcoins
i wouldn't be so quick to assume that.
i'm sure that assumption is based on the amount, 7 btc, right?
what if it had been 7000 btc or 43000 btc? would mtgox confiscate them then? i'm thinking 'yes'.
I think this is how it should be done, Mt. Gox is doing the right thing. They should communicate more with users though, the problem here was that he was locked out and there was no email about it etc.
They will not confiscate the bitcoins, they just need to know where they came from because the coins were from the recent thefts. That's about it.
They will not confiscate the bitcoins, they just need to know where they came from because the coins were from the recent thefts. That's about it.
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Can't agree with this policy as much as I want the perp to be caught... you cannot have "collateral damage" just like that.
Agreed. Although they didn't stop him, they just asked for information (which power is already given to them through AML agreement with the users).
Can't agree with this policy as much as I want the perp to be caught... you cannot have "collateral damage" just like that.
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How would they know the coins were stolen?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
Yes of course they do.
You can always tell where they came from, just not always "who" they came from (if you know what I mean).
It's like this forum. You can always tell what account posted what message, but no one really knows who owns the forum account in real life.
How would they know the coins were stolen?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
Of course. All bitcoins can be traced through the decentralized ledger. That is a fundamental design of Bitcoin. do coins carry a unique marker or something?
How would they know the coins were stolen?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
do coins carry a unique marker or something?
Probably shouldn't of posted that.. But then again i would love to find out where they came from to.
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
My guess is that you used Intersango.
Would you be willing to post the TXID or either address (sending or receiving)?
This is not the first time I've seen someone panic about this, either. Several people had the same thing happen after withdrawing coins from Tradehill's pool and putting them into MtGox.
What great customer service - put your clients into a frenzied panic thinking their account has been hacked by locking their account with no notification of any kind.
What great customer service - put your clients into a frenzied panic thinking their account has been hacked by locking their account with no notification of any kind.
I was thinking the same thing. BY THE WAY, How would MTGox know if the coins were stolen?
Do bit-coins carry a unique marker?
I wanted to thank everyone for the reply's, at-least freaking out on bitcointalk killed some time.
Sorry for the misleading topic as the account was not hacked. Just investigated.
This is not the first time I've seen someone panic about this, either. Several people had the same thing happen after withdrawing coins from Tradehill's pool and putting them into MtGox.
What great customer service - put your clients into a frenzied panic thinking their account has been hacked by locking their account with no notification of any kind.
What great customer service - put your clients into a frenzied panic thinking their account has been hacked by locking their account with no notification of any kind.
HAHA, the CIA is now after you, you're a dead man, son!
Probably shouldn't of posted that.. But then again i would love to find out where they came from to.
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
How did you send the USD? Liberty Reserve, moneyPak?
I don't really want to get into details but he used a exchange service i used.
I already had funds on the service. Turns out he had a account there. Thats the only way i would agree to the transaction, because i had some kind of recourse in the event of a scam
I have the account email i sent them to.
I am turning that over to mtgox now.
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!!
God at first i was relieved now im petrified i did something wrong
note to self: don't deposit coins to mtgox no matter how innocent.
Well noted...
Sorry, that's never going to be good enough. Those well known people and exchanges don't have all the information MtGox has...or does MtGox have a "stolen coin API" ? And even that's a very dangerous move for a company who has a large BTC investment.
If they try to become a central authority that determines which coins are "legal", Bitcoin is doomed. I hope they are smarter than that.
Probably shouldn't of posted that.. But then again i would love to find out where they came from to.
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
How did you send the USD? Liberty Reserve, moneyPak?
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!!
God at first i was relieved now im petrified i did something wrong
note to self: don't deposit coins to mtgox no matter how innocent.
Well noted...
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!!
God at first i was relieved now im petrified i did something wrong
note to self: don't deposit coins to mtgox no matter how innocent.
Well noted...
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!!
God at first i was relieved now im petrified i did something wrong
note to self: don't deposit coins to mtgox no matter how innocent.
You did nothing wrong, but whoever sent you these coins might have. Which is why we are all interested in hearing how you obtained those coins
Probably shouldn't of posted that.. But then again i would love to find out where they came from to.
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
I was paid this morning in BTC for USD from a vendor from a online market. Like a USD for BTC exchange.
I am trying to find more info on this person...
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
We'd like to know where you transferred those coins from in order to help with the current ongoing investigation. Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much,
XXXX,XXXXX
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
We'd like to know where you transferred those coins from in order to help with the current ongoing investigation. Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much,
XXXX,XXXXX
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!! what the fuck
Well now we're all very curious to know. Where / from who did you buy the BTC?
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Hi,
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
We have noticed you have deposited recently 7 BTC and have a reason to believe those coins may have come from the coins stolen from Bitcoinica (see the bitcointalk forum for more details).
MtGox Co. Ltd.
WHat the F is going on here...
I was paid BTC in exchange for money and now i get this??!!
God at first i was relieved now im petrified i did something wrong
I got no emails or anything. What should i do?
Check your spam folder as well, perhaps the change password message got routed there.
I contacted mtgox and waiting.
Assuming this was a support ticket you opened, then you can check an existing request here:
- https://support.mtgox.com/requests
If they haven't yet responded, there's not much you can do. If there's no response after a reasonable amount of time (e.g., maybe one business day and the ticket has not yet been addressed) then perhaps you can escalate with some prodding on the #mtgox IRC channel on Freenode.
Anyone? please? any ideas?
so strange. i came back and my browser showed my updated BTC amount, they arrived when i was away from computer, then i try to refresh and i cant login.
Is there a way to use block explorer to see if the money is gone?
so strange. i came back and my browser showed my updated BTC amount, they arrived when i was away from computer, then i try to refresh and i cant login.
Is there a way to use block explorer to see if the money is gone?
OMFG i am about to cry somone help..
I transferred some coins thismorning to mtgox, and had a couple sent to my mtgox account.
I logged in about 2 hours ago to check, everything was fine, left my computer and returned, my session on mtgox timmed out.
So i went to log backin and it says WRONG PASSWORD!!!
I hit the "password lost" input email, and i never got one.
I got no emails or anything. What should i do?
I contacted mtgox and waiting.
I feel sick to my stomach.
My password is very secure (long and random upper +lower+numbers)
computer is virus free behind 2 firewalls.
?
i dont get how. I never gave any mtgox info out, maybe a BTC address, or account #.
Never email info, and the password is a pain to type. I have a shitty feeling.
I transferred some coins thismorning to mtgox, and had a couple sent to my mtgox account.
I logged in about 2 hours ago to check, everything was fine, left my computer and returned, my session on mtgox timmed out.
So i went to log backin and it says WRONG PASSWORD!!!
I hit the "password lost" input email, and i never got one.
I got no emails or anything. What should i do?
I contacted mtgox and waiting.
I feel sick to my stomach.
My password is very secure (long and random upper +lower+numbers)
computer is virus free behind 2 firewalls.
?i dont get how. I never gave any mtgox info out, maybe a BTC address, or account #.
Never email info, and the password is a pain to type. I have a shitty feeling.
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