Topic: New ASIC Cedartec [Probable SCAM] (Read 8916 times)
Sooo, where's the mining farm being listed?
No this was the sensible thread where everyone shot it down in flames early on...well, except one guy who bought three!
Not sure if he knows that they refunded others...
Not sure if he knows that they refunded others...
Oh God... Not another thread...
Boy are the people who order this thing going to be disappointed when they receive their unit.
Bitcoin requires a double hash of SHA256. It needs to do SHA256(SHA256(n)) not SHA256(n).
Bitcoin requires a double hash of SHA256. It needs to do SHA256(SHA256(n)) not SHA256(n).
At least a couple have ordered there and admitted it.
I honestly cannot believe we are even debating the legitimacy of this
No one's debating it, we're just having a laugh at this lame attempt
No mate, not here. Here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170739.100
Lol!
I HOPE no one's thinking of doing any business with them, but most ppl are having a good chuckle
What a joke!
From their index page:
2 years ago nobody was even using FPGA let alone thinking of ASIC.
But these guys from the Lebanon had a sixt sense on what will be and that they would have to start with ASIC development in 2010.
I doubt they are real.
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CEDARTEC was founded 2010 in Lebanon,
with the aim to develop and produce affordable
quality goods with high standards.
A long time we have thought about what our first product
could be, the decision was taken, finally, on a SHA-256 ASIC
product, influenced by the very positive development of the electronic currency "Bitcoin" which we want to support.
with the aim to develop and produce affordable
quality goods with high standards.
A long time we have thought about what our first product
could be, the decision was taken, finally, on a SHA-256 ASIC
product, influenced by the very positive development of the electronic currency "Bitcoin" which we want to support.
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After 2 years of development time, we are sure to release and ship our first product in few weeks to our customers, so we have put our webpage online and finally started to accept orders.
We limited our product "CT-80", which we release for our customers, to 1000 units. Every device is working with 10 built-in chips working at a processing speed of 80 GH/s with a maximum power consumption of 200 watt.
We limited our product "CT-80", which we release for our customers, to 1000 units. Every device is working with 10 built-in chips working at a processing speed of 80 GH/s with a maximum power consumption of 200 watt.
2 years ago nobody was even using FPGA let alone thinking of ASIC.
But these guys from the Lebanon had a sixt sense on what will be and that they would have to start with ASIC development in 2010.
I doubt they are real.
I honestly cannot believe we are even debating the legitimacy of this
No one's debating it, we're just having a laugh at this lame attempt
No mate, not here. Here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170739.100
Lol!
I honestly cannot believe we are even debating the legitimacy of this
No one's debating it, we're just having a laugh at this lame attempt
Also the chip on his finger is far smaller than those on the board in relative size!
Aaaaaand he's erased the branding on the chip above the gold wifi aerial in the second pic. The first has thick bold white lettering, the second, vanished, like magic!
Leaving nothing but the same slither of black repeated many times over the surface of the chip. Amateur.
Aaaaaand he's erased the branding on the chip above the gold wifi aerial in the second pic. The first has thick bold white lettering, the second, vanished, like magic!
Leaving nothing but the same slither of black repeated many times over the surface of the chip. Amateur.
Looks like a mini atx with WiFi
Oh yeah, the golden connector is for the WiFi antenna! And the sockets for mouse, keyboard and other peripherals have been snapped off. You can see the small pins sticking out of the board between the RJ45 jack and WiFi antenna connector.
+1 blatantly, thank-you, someone that speaks sense, finally. I honestly cannot believe we are even debating the legitimacy of this or that some morons on another thread are trying to defend this, let alone part with BTC!!
So, so desperate to believe in anything...
dB relative to WHAT?
Relative to nothing or, if you want, relative to the level of 0 dB at the limit of human perception (actually 0 dB correspond to 20 micropascal of pressure amplitude)
hmmm
Better than BFL ...
Better than BFL ...
Scamfucks
Looks like a mini atx with WiFi
Oh yeah, the golden connector is for the WiFi antenna! And the sockets for mouse, keyboard and other peripherals have been snapped off. You can see the small pins sticking out of the board between the RJ45 jack and WiFi antenna connector.
Video from their media gallery: https://vimeo.com/65249930
Looks like a mini atx with WiFi
So, obviously these photos are shopped:
Please note how conveniently the cellphone blocks the view of the place where the chips where photoshopped onto the board. However, the tenth chip should be visible in that picture. It's not there.
Can anyone recognize the board? To me, it looks like some old-ass board with an RJ45 jack (bottom right) glued on. The golden connector next to the RJ45 jack looks like a TV antenna connector. The socket on the top left looks similar to a PC motherboard power socket. Maybe it's from a TV cable box?
Please note how conveniently the cellphone blocks the view of the place where the chips where photoshopped onto the board. However, the tenth chip should be visible in that picture. It's not there.
Can anyone recognize the board? To me, it looks like some old-ass board with an RJ45 jack (bottom right) glued on. The golden connector next to the RJ45 jack looks like a TV antenna connector. The socket on the top left looks similar to a PC motherboard power socket. Maybe it's from a TV cable box?
The fans and vents all looked photo shopped onto the case! Each of the two small fans appear to be cut and pastes of each other!!
If they had of put half of much effort into to te video as they did their website they might be a bit more believable.
Seriously - you sent how much money developing these ASIC chips and you can get a decent video camera or make an effort to shoot something does doesn't look like a 3yo is holding the camera and manually focusing??
If they had of put half of much effort into to te video as they did their website they might be a bit more believable.
Seriously - you sent how much money developing these ASIC chips and you can get a decent video camera or make an effort to shoot something does doesn't look like a 3yo is holding the camera and manually focusing??
Purchased 3
If this totally legit real life photo doesn't convince you it's real, nothing will:
The video looks interesting. Still not convinced - but this at least isn't a quick pump and dump kind of scam. Unfortunately the video doesn't really show much of the hardware - it is a bit dark, can see power cables and stuff - but no asics on the board or anything yet.
Anybody care to do some digging in the video? Anybody see what the pool is they are using? Can we confirm the mining was actually done with the pool or something?
Anybody care to do some digging in the video? Anybody see what the pool is they are using? Can we confirm the mining was actually done with the pool or something?
BTC Guild username; Cedartec_1, port:3333
The video looks interesting. Still not convinced - but this at least isn't a quick pump and dump kind of scam. Unfortunately the video doesn't really show much of the hardware - it is a bit dark, can see power cables and stuff - but no asics on the board or anything yet.
Anybody care to do some digging in the video? Anybody see what the pool is they are using? Can we confirm the mining was actually done with the pool or something?
Anybody care to do some digging in the video? Anybody see what the pool is they are using? Can we confirm the mining was actually done with the pool or something?
fan noise, truly the most important spec in an ASIC
also, the fact that it's 25 dB
dB relative to WHAT?
They have a video now read in English, but with a German accent, but the call of 'Yalla' in the background at the start is a nice touch as is the effort in the GUI. Shame they don't focus on the product aside from the red and green lights, but they're so purtty...
http://cedartec.net/gallery.php
http://cedartec.net/gallery.php
I didn't know lebanon is the new silicone valley. Funny how these new companies pop up from thin air without any previous serious business and claim to have developed todays best selling product, an ASIC.
Oho, modified pictures from Cedartec, they put the reset button on the right.
First post saying "I gambled on this because it was only ~10BTC" in 3, 2, 1....
offered to buy three units @ 1500€ each, cash on delivery.
see how that goes.
see how that goes.
I'll buy one. Escrow only, of my choosing.
Well some hours have passed since my request to purchase their product. No reply. You'd think they would snap up new customers.
Maybe it's the escrow part they don't like. LOL
Let's listen to the silence.
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Dear customer,
we are about to get unlocked for the bitcointalk, we putted us in the
whitelist but nobody has reacted on it.
One of our employees has post 4 answers and we are about to get the 4
hours ontime to be allowed
to post something.
The pictures will be with something on it that shows that the pictures
are definitly made by us.
We are accepting pre-order because of the financial aspect, that is why
we can not accept refunds,
we must calculate everything and ordering the components by order for
up to 1000 orders.
Our product is not cheap, but the price is suitable. We have a
contractor in china which will
produce our main components. So it is possible for us to offer a unit
for 999$.
With best regards,
Your CedarTec Team.
we are about to get unlocked for the bitcointalk, we putted us in the
whitelist but nobody has reacted on it.
One of our employees has post 4 answers and we are about to get the 4
hours ontime to be allowed
to post something.
The pictures will be with something on it that shows that the pictures
are definitly made by us.
We are accepting pre-order because of the financial aspect, that is why
we can not accept refunds,
we must calculate everything and ordering the components by order for
up to 1000 orders.
Our product is not cheap, but the price is suitable. We have a
contractor in china which will
produce our main components. So it is possible for us to offer a unit
for 999$.
With best regards,
Your CedarTec Team.
the whitelist is so bitcointalk staff have proff of they are legal?
Dear customers,
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
It is funny how 3.) is constructed with german grammar.
Seriously, try reading it in a german accent.
I'm getting more of czech vibe from the whole thing actually.
Domain Name: CEDARTEC.NET
Registrar: INTERNET.BS CORP.
Whois Server: whois.internet.bs
Referral URL: http://www.internet.bs
Name Server: NS7.ORANGEWEBSITE.COM
Name Server: NS8.ORANGEWEBSITE.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 23-mar-2013
Creation Date: 23-mar-2013
Expiration Date: 23-mar-2014
Registrar: INTERNET.BS CORP.
Whois Server: whois.internet.bs
Referral URL: http://www.internet.bs
Name Server: NS7.ORANGEWEBSITE.COM
Name Server: NS8.ORANGEWEBSITE.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 23-mar-2013
Creation Date: 23-mar-2013
Expiration Date: 23-mar-2014
Why would a real or reputable business register a domain name for one year only?
Another one? 
On the "product page" It reads: "Supported protocol: SHA-256 (e.g. Bitcoin)"
Funny. What was that suppose to mean to anyone? and Why is it important? Looks like a case of baffle em with b.s.
On the "product page" It reads: "Supported protocol: SHA-256 (e.g. Bitcoin)"
Funny. What was that suppose to mean to anyone? and Why is it important? Looks like a case of baffle em with b.s.
Dear customers,
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
It is funny how 3.) is constructed with german grammar.
Seriously, try reading it in a german accent.
A community burned one times too many now resorting to calling everything they see a scam is unhealthy. We all want proof in the form of GH/s and trusted community members getting their hands on these but don't you think it's a little god damn early to yell scam?
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
No, thats just your gullibility expressing itself.It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
I'll buy one. Escrow only, of my choosing.
Dear customers,
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
at least they are googling and reading the forum about them
that s a good point
;0
Dear customers,
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
we have got many support requests
with the same questions and reproaches.
So we decided to take statement.
1.) We will publish in the next days pictures
from the pcb, chip etc.
2.) Our domain was registered at the 23th march.
At february we took our page online on a static ip,
which was given to choosen people. Mostly for
test purposes. The webpage was hosted on a htpc
in our office, it was no problem due the low traffic.
3.) We hired for two of our scripts austrian programmers,
this is why we have some german words in our source code.
Your CedarTec Team.
Under news section
Let's se what we can't see
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Are they being made in a tent
It's a red herring. I've got some pretty good leads on the guys behind that scam being German.
Kontaktformular
Yeah, though that one might just be a hastily copied script. There's more incriminating stuff.
At the bottom: 2013 | CedarTec - Kassem Mourad, Tripoli - Lebanon | All rights reserved.
Are they being made in a tent
It's a red herring. I've got some pretty good leads on the guys behind that scam being German.
Kontaktformular
At the bottom: 2013 | CedarTec - Kassem Mourad, Tripoli - Lebanon | All rights reserved.
Are they being made in a tent
It's a red herring. I've got some pretty good leads on the guys behind that scam being German.
A community burned one times too many now resorting to calling everything they see a scam is unhealthy. We all want proof in the form of GH/s and trusted community members getting their hands on these but don't you think it's a little god damn early to yell scam?
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
Unknown/nobody makes a post claiming stuff, gets laughed out of the building? Very healthy. It has nothing to do with "being burned" many times or few times, it's the correct attitude.
Proof first. No proof? Scam. There's no judgement to reserve. Promise of proof is not proof. Talking well is not proof. First post is proof or whole thing is a scam.
That's generally what happens when you make a machine that prints money and has to be paid for through an anonymous currency.
But Avalon are not magicians, there're going to be plenty of other ASICs from other companies.
But Avalon are not magicians, there're going to be plenty of other ASICs from other companies.
A community burned one times too many now resorting to calling everything they see a scam is unhealthy. We all want proof in the form of GH/s and trusted community members getting their hands on these but don't you think it's a little god damn early to yell scam?
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
We see those thread every weeks since Avalon shipped. They all turned out to be a scam. It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
A community burned one times too many now resorting to calling everything they see a scam is unhealthy. We all want proof in the form of GH/s and trusted community members getting their hands on these but don't you think it's a little god damn early to yell scam?
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
It's clear no one is going to go and pre-order without proof. A website and a render of a box doesn't enthuse me either but I'll wait before I pass judgement.
At the bottom: 2013 | CedarTec - Kassem Mourad, Tripoli - Lebanon | All rights reserved.
Are they being made in a tent
Fail. Try again next week.
At the bottom: 2013 | CedarTec - Kassem Mourad, Tripoli - Lebanon | All rights reserved.
Put me down for fiddy boxes. Extra heavy on the fans skip the clock bluffers.
Any proof？ Like mining video or pictures of PCB with chips？
All the proof anyone needs:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1685754
Any proof？ Like mining video or pictures of PCB with chips？
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Registrar: INTERNET.BS CORP.
well that looks accurate...
more preorders? no thanks.
http://www.cedartec.net/news.php
Dear customers,
The pre-order is now open!
Our target is to ship 100 units per week starting from shipping date.
Shipping date will be the 14th May 2013. The price per device will be 999$.
We only accept bitcoins. More details are now published, please visit
the following link:
>>Pre-order now<<
Your CedarTec Team.
we can start bets now :
cedartec will ship : 14th May 2013 , buuuahahahah scamity scam scam scam.
Dear customers,
The pre-order is now open!
Our target is to ship 100 units per week starting from shipping date.
Shipping date will be the 14th May 2013. The price per device will be 999$.
We only accept bitcoins. More details are now published, please visit
the following link:
>>Pre-order now<<
Your CedarTec Team.
we can start bets now :
cedartec will ship : 14th May 2013 , buuuahahahah scamity scam scam scam.
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