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Topic: New ASIC? or scam? miiduu.com (Read 981039 times)

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January 21, 2013, 02:46:26 AM
#58
looks like maybe a legit site was hacked; to try to scam people to buy bitcoin hardware

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January 20, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
#57
Are viewers being tracked for some reason? What else is being gleaned when this site is viewed?

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var _gaq = _gaq || [];
  _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-30206652-1']);
  _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

  (function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
  })();

Isn't that just typical google analytics?

Yes that is standard Goole stuff
legendary
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January 20, 2013, 12:34:43 PM
#56
Are viewers being tracked for some reason? What else is being gleaned when this site is viewed?

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var _gaq = _gaq || [];
  _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-30206652-1']);
  _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

  (function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
  })();

Isn't that just typical google analytics?

Just realized it's for miiduu.com and not a self-hosted domain.
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January 20, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
#55
Are viewers being tracked for some reason? What else is being gleaned when this site is viewed?

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var _gaq = _gaq || [];
  _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-30206652-1']);
  _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

  (function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
  })();

Isn't that just typical google analytics?
legendary
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January 20, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
#54
Are viewers being tracked for some reason? What else is being gleaned when this site is viewed?

Quote
var _gaq = _gaq || [];
  _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-30206652-1']);
  _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

  (function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
  })();
legendary
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January 20, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
#53
1000000% SCAM!

edit: oh shoot.  I didn't realize the domain itself was a store hosting thing.  so the 2nd level domain is good, but it's like a hosting thing.

well I know bitcoin.miiduu.com is a scam.  

looks like m1.miiduu.com is gone now? ah, it was bitcoinhardware.miiduu.com...  regardless, it was/is a scam, too.
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October 23, 2012, 01:33:56 PM
#52
The poster claimed they are/were "working with BFL" which is false, so that's what I was basing my statement off of.  Sure, they could buy the stuff from us and resell it, but they'd be effectively doing it at a loss since they are not getting any sort of discount from us.  I'm not sure why anyone would  resell our products at a loss, so it's got to be scam. Smiley


So.. are you saying BFL offers wholesale discounts? Cheesy
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October 19, 2012, 12:58:58 PM
#51
The poster claimed they are/were "working with BFL" which is false, so that's what I was basing my statement off of.  Sure, they could buy the stuff from us and resell it, but they'd be effectively doing it at a loss since they are not getting any sort of discount from us.  I'm not sure why anyone would  resell our products at a loss, so it's got to be scam. Smiley
legendary
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October 19, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
#50
Not to imply it isn't a scam, but someone does not need BFL's permission to resell their products. Most countries have a "doctrine of first sale" that basically allows reselling without permission. There is a possibility they've worked out some import tax discount and just aren't good with websites or the English language. But again, it's probably likely this is a scam anyway.
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October 19, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
#49
I can assure you that it's a scam with 100% confidence.  This person/company has no relation with BFL in any way, shape or form.



In a total reversal of what I'm usually doing, I opt to believe Josh on this one.
legendary
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October 19, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
#48
I can assure you that it's a scam with 100% confidence.  This person/company has no relation with BFL in any way, shape or form.


This is exactly what I would expect you to state if you were the one who put up that page. Seriously, I have to agree with Josh that this is a scam.

~Bruno K~
RHA
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October 18, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
#47
Roma locuta causa finita.
legendary
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October 18, 2012, 01:57:18 PM
#46
I can assure you that it's a scam with 100% confidence.  This person/company has no relation with BFL in any way, shape or form.

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October 18, 2012, 07:18:11 AM
#45
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Is there worldwide always only one office in bigger places?
I think like in the street I have the office, where there are about 6-7 offices (bigger house) there are everywhere more than 100 or even more offices.

I will take the picture of the entrance and there are more tables.
 
I still didn't get any notice that I have scam someone and I will not get any.

Free or paid domains is the same.

So people if you don't have any proof don't tell lays.

Show me the pictures then Smiley
 * Your office
 * The products you are selling

Looking forward to a reply in english
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October 18, 2012, 06:38:52 AM
#44
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Is there worldwide always only one office in bigger places?
I think like in the street I have the office, where there are about 6-7 offices (bigger house) there are everywhere more than 100 or even more offices.

I will take the picture of the entrance and there are more tables.

I still didn't get any notice that I have scam someone and I will not get any.

Free or paid domains is the same.

So people if you don't have any proof don't tell lays.

although my native language isn't english, i do understand everything people usually say. But this guy - can anyone tell me what he was trying to say?


You are correct in that statement that it is unreadable
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..yeah
October 18, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
#43
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Is there worldwide always only one office in bigger places?
I think like in the street I have the office, where there are about 6-7 offices (bigger house) there are everywhere more than 100 or even more offices.

I will take the picture of the entrance and there are more tables.

I still didn't get any notice that I have scam someone and I will not get any.

Free or paid domains is the same.

So people if you don't have any proof don't tell lays.

although my native language isn't english, i do understand everything people usually say. But this guy - can anyone tell me what he was trying to say?
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October 18, 2012, 06:05:23 AM
#42
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Is there worldwide always only one office in bigger places?
I think like in the street I have the office, where there are about 6-7 offices (bigger house) there are everywhere more than 100 or even more offices.

I will take the picture of the entrance and there are more tables.

I still didn't get any notice that I have scam someone and I will not get any.

Free or paid domains is the same.

So people if you don't have any proof don't tell lays.
newbie
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October 18, 2012, 04:31:51 AM
#41
Lets look at the facts

* Site images look shit.
http://m1.miiduu.com/store1/17011/image/data/Logo-Template---Logo_bitcoin-626x337.png
Code:
exiftool Logo-Template---Logo_bitcoin-626x337.png
Modify Date                     : 2011:12:16 11:59:56
Very old modify date...

* Using a free/hosted shop solution miiduu.com. Does anyone really think someone selling items for $25,000 would use a free/hosted shop site?

* Address??
Same as
http://www.eurohandball.com/tournaments/000473
Code:
drPC, Aljosa Sumenjak s.p.
Premrlova 1
6310 Izola
Slovenia

Fake, scam crap...

Moving on....
http://i.imgflip.com/is8.jpg
sr. member
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October 16, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
#40
Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....

Did it look anything like this?



Yeah, but uncut.

I'm not sure what a jewish wafer looks like.

What are you talking about, you can see that this one was schnipt, it's just too bad the Mohel slipped!
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..yeah
October 16, 2012, 04:52:16 PM
#39
for now, I'm not going to scam any person.

everything is said, i guess. But its not hard to tell this miiduu thing is pure bullshit. Hope you die in a fire
sr. member
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October 16, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
#38
Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....

Did it look anything like this?



Yeah, but uncut.

I'm not sure what a jewish wafer looks like.
hero member
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October 16, 2012, 01:23:46 PM
#37
Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....

Did it look anything like this?



Yeah, but uncut.
sr. member
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October 14, 2012, 03:44:30 AM
#36
Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....

Did it look anything like this?

legendary
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October 13, 2012, 10:13:43 PM
#35
My 1.5TH unit from them just arrived!

Only problem is it's just an uncut wafer....
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October 12, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
#34
These east scum.

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October 12, 2012, 07:51:03 PM
#33
Replace the word spam with scam from this video and you have an idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
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October 12, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
#32
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So even that is a subdomain on miiduu - for now, I'm not going to scam any person.

I think something got lost in the translation.

And yeah, unless BFL publicly endorses you as a re-seller, no-one's going to take you seriously.
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October 12, 2012, 02:22:53 PM
#31
Scam scamity scam ... or to quote electricmucus "Scams, scams everywhere!"
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October 12, 2012, 01:31:39 PM
#30
scam
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October 12, 2012, 11:59:50 AM
#29
Look if I start one business here, I will order some SC.

I will see if I can get a small investment.

You will order? Maybe you want to make a fair bussines, you don't want to scam, but have you talked at least with BFL?, how can you give the same prices? dude, back to real world .


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October 12, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
#28
Looks super shady, 99.99% chance it is a scam. BFL has a branded image and is currently on top of the world... and they are going to allow a mirror site run by some shady nobody to resell their products? Seriously doubt it. Although, there will certainly be some extremely dramatic threads involving BFL at some point in the next year... so who the hell knows.
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October 11, 2012, 07:54:21 AM
#27
Look if I start one business here, I will order some SC.

I will see if I can get a small investment.
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October 11, 2012, 07:52:34 AM
#26
SolarSilver
I know who are you talking about.
And I know some reasons why He is like that.

And you know how is if someone is talking like that without your presence!

I'm still collecting prices -> but hopefully to not find any person here that knows what are BTC, Otherwise no business.

I'm not wat to SCAM any.


legendary
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October 11, 2012, 07:48:35 AM
#25

I have a question:
Did I ever scam anyone here from the forum?



Not yet ;-)


I get better prices for shipping from USA, but I'm still searching for better. Also multiple shipping reduce costs. And difference between port of Koper or port of Trieste is big.
So Is why I have decided to put the site on. Not even want to scam anyone! Why this thinking?

And If someone want order from me, no problem, he/she will get all tracking numbers, total shipping cost and all fees.
If the person is located in Italy, Austria, Hungary, Germany I can bring free of cost the machine to proove that I'm not going to scam anyone.


What about VAT?
How about quoting your prices in EUR?

We are not saying you intend to scam, it's just you are a bit over optimistic on your capability to deliver the product
on time.

Let's say I order a 60 GHash unit, to be shipped to Izola. What is the final price? What is the estimated delivery date? Do you agree on cash on delivery? Or do you want to sit on money for 3 months until you can deliver?
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October 11, 2012, 07:31:50 AM
#24
I have a question:
Did I ever scam anyone here from the forum?
I get better prices for shipping from USA, but I'm still searching for better. Also multiple shipping reduce costs. And difference between port of Koper or port of Trieste is big.
So Is why I have decided to put the site on. Not even want to scam anyone! Why this thinking?

And If someone want order from me, no problem, he/she will get all tracking numbers, total shipping cost and all fees.
If the person is located in Italy, Austria, Hungary, Germany I can bring free of cost the machine to proove that I'm not going to scam anyone.

And finally why I would like to scam someone, I don't have any interest.

So even that is a subdomain on miiduu - for now, I'm not going to scam any person.

I just get e message from a friend that there is a discussion about me.

And the company is still alive.

Happy mining to all
legendary
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October 11, 2012, 01:13:34 AM
#23
Does anyone know this people selling ASIC hardware?
Its for real?
http://bitcoinhardware.miiduu.com/

I asked a friend (who I just visited in September, he lives near Izola but knows it very well due to work) to check him out:

Quote
No need to check him out, I've known him for 20 years or so. He's illusional
to put it mildly. Sort of a village idiot. He somehow finished high school,
got a 4500 EUR government employment subsidy and started his own sole trader
business repairing PCs.

That's him btw: http://www.different-eye.com/users/aljosasumenjak

I wouldn't waste a single minute talking to the guy, he's full of crap.

So unless he can show the pre-order from BFL with an order number < 500, I would not on count on getting equipment from him in a reasonable timeframe
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October 10, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
#22
This may fool complete bitcoin noobs that are shopping for BFL products.
legendary
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October 10, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
#21
Has anyone asked BFL for comment?

You can post a inquiry here.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/forum.php
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October 10, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
#20
Looks kinda dodgy, and on an unrelated matter, some douche swiped my netbook on a train in Slovenia once. I guess I was silly to look away from it, even for a minute or ten (distracted by friendly US tourists, LOL).
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October 10, 2012, 08:46:08 PM
#19
How do you guys find these shoddy sites? And why would BFL be related to him anyways? Because he decided to copy the prices from the BFL site and/or replied he's working with them?
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October 10, 2012, 12:29:11 PM
#18
Has anyone asked BFL for comment?
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October 10, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
#17
Site reached its daily limit Wink  Huh Huh Huh

What kind of mickey-mouse webhosting are they using that would lead to that?

(Not that I'm expecting this site to in any way be legit...if anything, this is another point against them.)
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October 10, 2012, 09:22:59 AM
#16
It smells to scam Cheesy, why would have BFL a reseller?

BFL is known enough in this little worldwide market, people buy directly to they, have a waiting list and clients preorder and pay months before. They don't need a distribution net wich to pay commissions.

Maybe in other states of market but not in this.

Would have BTCFPGA.com a reseller? Selling at same price than you. IF the answer is yes I want to be your reseller.

Regards

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October 10, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
#15
If true, where's the import tax, did he get a big rebate? Slovenia is part of the EU, so it would save $300 tax/custom fees at least getting one Single SC ($1387 incl. ship USA to EU) from there. So probably not real?
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October 10, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
#14
Site reached its daily limit Wink  Huh Huh Huh
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October 10, 2012, 08:30:26 AM
#13
He's probably just attempting to resell in Europe. The only question, as underlined by the others, is which sort of relationship does he have with BFL.
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October 10, 2012, 07:45:14 AM
#12
Thas what they answered:

I get some good connection for lower fees importing from USA. I'm working with BFL.
I'm optimistic, so I think in 2-3 weeks they will start shipping.
I'm trying to make a 2 line for orders.
Also I'm waiting the total shipping cost to add on the site.
And another thing. I'm not getting any profit from any product. That's my good mood to promote BFL products.

Everything will be tracked (shipping,..) so no SCAM from me. I'm just BTC and other cryptocoin user
It's up to you choose where to buy.

Regards
Aljosa

Well, it isn't completely unheard of to import stuff, but I can't really see why BFL or others would be willing at this point to resell anything as everything is ripped of their hands before they can even spell ASIC. Other thing, I would not buy anything from a seller who doesn't even want to pay expenses of designing or hosting their site. I do not think its a scam per say, but very amateurish attempt. I wouldn't trust this guy to hold my beer, let alone $1300.
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October 10, 2012, 07:23:30 AM
#11
Looks shady as hell to me,

I would love to hear BFL's response as to their connection to this guy

Quote
I get some good connection for lower fees importing from USA. I'm working with BFL.
I'm optimistic, so I think in 2-3 weeks they will start shipping.
I'm trying to make a 2 line for orders.
Also I'm waiting the total shipping cost to add on the site.
And another thing. I'm not getting any profit from any product. That's my good mood to promote BFL products.

Everything will be tracked (shipping,..) so no SCAM from me. I'm just BTC and other cryptocoin user
It's up to you choose where to buy.

Regards
Aljosa

---

Everything is possbile with BFL, I know well the team.

Regards



Personally I think the guy is full of crap, trying to get your money to vanish into Slovania, never to be heard from again Wink
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October 10, 2012, 07:05:43 AM
#10
Beside hardware there is also "Firmware" so you can't just nick the ASIC design and expect it to work.
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October 10, 2012, 07:04:17 AM
#9
This is even better :

Everything is possbile with BFL, I know well the team.

Regards

Cheesy
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October 10, 2012, 07:03:51 AM
#8
Did a reverse image search and found this
http://www.crevinn.com/services.php
I am not sure if these two are related
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October 10, 2012, 06:46:10 AM
#7
Thas what they answered:

I get some good connection for lower fees importing from USA. I'm working with BFL.
I'm optimistic, so I think in 2-3 weeks they will start shipping.
I'm trying to make a 2 line for orders.
Also I'm waiting the total shipping cost to add on the site.
And another thing. I'm not getting any profit from any product. That's my good mood to promote BFL products.

Everything will be tracked (shipping,..) so no SCAM from me. I'm just BTC and other cryptocoin user
It's up to you choose where to buy.

Regards
Aljosa
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October 10, 2012, 06:32:15 AM
#6
That site reeks of fraudulent activity, please be very careful and do not let greed get your money taken.  

I am really not sure you should buy "Even more hasharete with this ASIC!  60Ghash",  can we even use hasharete for Bitcoin anyway? Wink Wink Grin

I am just curious what that pic is of anyway. Any image searchers here?


EDIT: I found it here: http://www.crevinn.com/ipdevelop.php

and here: http://www.asice.com/DesignServices.htm
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October 10, 2012, 05:41:44 AM
#5
This was to be expected. BFL selected the cheapest foundry to make their ASICs. So their design was stolen by rogue employees, or even the unscrupulous company itself, and clone chips are now going to be manufactured, and sold on the grey market.



Could be, if the logo is a moth Tongue
mrb
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October 10, 2012, 04:51:17 AM
#4
This was to be expected. BFL selected the cheapest foundry to make their ASICs. So their design was stolen by rogue employees, or even the unscrupulous company itself, and clone chips are now going to be manufactured, and sold on the grey market.

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October 10, 2012, 04:15:12 AM
#3
From the about us:

We selling, repairing and do consulting in IT segment, computers, printers....

Our location is in Europe - Slovenia

drPC, Aljosa Sumenjak s.p.
Premrlova 1
6310 Izola
Slovenia
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October 10, 2012, 03:57:36 AM
#2
Looks like they just copied BFL product pricing.
Can't google map their address.
Telephone number is "Your Telephone Number"
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October 10, 2012, 03:53:44 AM
#1
Does anyone know this people selling ASIC hardware?
Its for real?
http://bitcoinhardware.miiduu.com/

ASIC 1.5Terahash
Product sku: sku_3 Availability: 1
Price: $29,899.00

ASIC 60Ghash
Product sku: sku_2 Availability: 1
Price: $1,299.00

ASIC 4.5Ghash
Product sku: sku_1 Availability: 1
Price: $149.00
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