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Topic: New Baikal A2000 Giant+ (Read 5111 times)

newbie
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November 19, 2017, 11:11:07 AM
#65
To be fair the Biakal Giant+ is still making 10.18 USD a day or 232.23 USD monthly profit, whereas the Antminer D3 at 19.3Ghs is rapidly going down, now only making 2.52 USD or 75.33 USD monthly. As of 19/11/2017
I'm pretty pissed I got two D3's (November batch) instead of Baikal Giant+'s. I sold my D3's on Ebay immediately I received them and have ordered two Baikal Gaints X10's instead. I'll never buy a miner that mines one algo again.  Sad
newbie
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September 29, 2017, 11:53:30 AM
#64
Has any A2000 owner had trouble with the terminal not responding to any typing?
newbie
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September 28, 2017, 07:09:27 PM
#63
Baikal realizes that their production output has been trounced by the market competition. They therefore are negotaiting price push to keep the asic profitability up. But they are getting squeezed as the market is moving faster than they can output.

I have a Giant+ A2000. It seems to be rewarding a little low even though the hash rate pegs at 3.5gh/s. The device is rated at 2000mh/s.
It was mining X14 but when all the blocks confirmed the reward activity would shut down to zero while the device was thrashing away mining something, I am not sure.
This happened twice. The last time the device got stuck in the initialization mode. So I rebooted it and removed the x14 from the mining list.
The x11 activity is there but like I mentioned that rate is really slow. And the date is September 28, 2017 so maybe the mining market is gone at this level of device hash rate.

I am pondering putting this device back on the market for $4800usd.

Back to the x14 reference. It is Berncash.
sr. member
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July 23, 2017, 09:03:47 AM
#62


Trying to do individual pricing in a tech marketplace is a quick way to destroy a business's reputation. 
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They should just put them on ebay with a 3 day auction
sr. member
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July 23, 2017, 09:02:14 AM
#61
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.



I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

 Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.

 Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
 Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.

 I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.


 You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
 Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.



Agreed. If a company can't tell me a straight forward price that they're charging for their devices, I don't want one. Period.  Put it on your website in black and white, and let the market decide whether your device is worth the asking price.  Trying to do individual pricing in a tech marketplace is a quick way to destroy a business's reputation.  It smells like the company knows the price is too high, and wants to engage in used car sales tactics to pressure folks into buying one.  Hence, the Skype requirement. 

full member
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July 22, 2017, 09:38:41 PM
#60
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

 Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.

 Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
 Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.

 I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.


 You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
 Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.



Agreed. If a company can't tell me a straight forward price that they're charging for their devices, I don't want one. Period.  Put it on your website in black and white, and let the market decide whether your device is worth the asking price.  Trying to do individual pricing in a tech marketplace is a quick way to destroy a business's reputation.  It smells like the company knows the price is too high, and wants to engage in used car sales tactics to pressure folks into buying one.  Hence, the Skype requirement. 
sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 09:23:29 PM
#59
i think you're a baikal employee.  Grin you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?

Of course, I paid for the miners. I have proof.

I m not a Baikal employee. I live in Turkey. Check my posts. I also have 5 GPU rigs with 21 GPUs. And I have used bitmain S7 and S9 miners before.

Baikal should either increase the Megahash capacity to 30 GHs or reduce the price to $1000 so the miners can buy its stock immediately.
6 x Baikal @ 2000 Mhs = 12000 Mhs
Price x 6 Baikals $6000

If they ship immediately its  a good deal for the miners and for them.
hero member
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Online Security & Investment Corporation
July 22, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
#58
i think you're a baikal employee.  Grin you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?

Of course, I paid for the miners. I have proof.

I m not a Baikal employee. I live in Turkey. Check my posts. I also have 5 GPU rigs with 21 GPUs. And I have used bitmain S7 and S9 miners before.
legendary
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July 22, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
#57
We will see what will happen when the other ASIC device manufacturer release their X11 miner. Please dont think Baikal miners only for X11. It mines on different algos.

Some Examples:

Digibyte on Qubit
Geocoin on Qubit
Quark on Quark
MonetaryUnit on Quark (now on X11)

Everyone remember Digibyte pump ?  or MUE pump ?


 Never heard OF MUE before your post.

 DGB even when it was pumped couldn't asorb a lot of hashrate - my small *5 total units one an 88 Mhs* A2 farm at one point was 1% of the TOTAL NETWORK HASHRATE for DGB-Scrypt and I managed almost 2% for a few hours at one point on the Groetsl option with PART of my GPU farm - and I'm NOT running a big farm.

 It will take a while for the Baikal to drop enough on X11 profitability that they'll get driven elsewhere, but the profitability of the other algos they mine are going to drop FAST when they do start having to find new homes as NONE of them have a large total hashrate due to how small the coins on them are.



legendary
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July 22, 2017, 08:25:27 PM
#56
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

 Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.

 Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
 Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.

 I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.


 You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
 Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.


legendary
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July 22, 2017, 08:19:38 PM
#55
Do you think D3 will be reliable as its first batch and probably they are working on a prototype now (as no photo was released and just l3 photo was placed)
Nobody knows, Bitmain has very high variance in terms of batch reliability so it may be true that the first batch is unreliable and they tweak it throughout later batches. Seems like they are in early stages of development atm with the L3 photos but they may use the same chassis for the miner. Fingers crossed they didn't rush development and they've just now decided to shoot the gun.

 I suspect the D3 first batch or two will have issues. I've also not been impressed with ANYTHING Bitmain has done since the S5 on a longevity standpoint.

sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 02:43:47 PM
#54
wow..........does baikal really influence bitcointalk. Now my messages are getting deleted for what reason or what pretext or it it for a neutral anlylsis i gave which baikal don't like?

Atleast justify it to the community

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This is a shit show. Innosilicon is keeping sale open for days at least until 7/25/ so im sure they will be assembling units after sale is done. How many units will they be shipping in batch 1 ? Never seen a pre order that is kept open for days like this. Price is so high with unlimited availability until 7/25 ? Can they keep this on schedule for October delivery if they cant and shipping is delayed Ibelink and Bitmain will already be raising difficulty on network by the time Innosilicon start shipping. Also what if Biakal or Pineda announce something bigger lets say 45-60 ghs

Murphy's law. If anything can go wrong, it will


My fears exactly.  I really want to order these, but it's hard to pull the trigger on something so expensive with a 2 month pre-order wait period (at least) without a definite shipping date to look forward to.  The 'give us your money, now get in line and like it' mentality of these ASIC companies is irritating.




i agree, pre-orders should have a shipping date of no more than 15 days at maximum.
sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 02:31:34 PM
#53
It is strange that i got below notification that my post was removed for just entering "Agreed", moreover when i try to reply the message sender i was told that 'your message is blocked and i cannot send them message'

Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok.

agreed

Why is my posted removed why i just agreed to another members analysis ?
Thats strange to see that vendors like Baikal are having influence over bitcointalk.org legandary forum?

sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
#52
Are they seriously asking for 7k? for 2Gh/s? If thats the case Baikals greed knows no bound...

Yes they are, where in the worth is no more than $1000 to $1500 or at max $2000
sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
#51
Are they seriously asking for 7k? for 2Gh/s? If thats the case Baikals greed knows no bound...
sr. member
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July 22, 2017, 01:08:12 PM
#50
I understand, but small miners united can make difference.
full member
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July 22, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
#49
Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok. Baikal next time dont hoard miners and sell to all customers not just your vendors this has turned badly for Baikal.

Even at current diff. it'll take more than a year to pay the thing off, all the while the diff. is rising and ROI gets longer and longer.  Not worth the money.



i can't get my head around how fast things move in the asic market. a new asic comes out and bang almost straight away it's not profitable anymore. crazy. then someone else releases a much more powerful version and the same thing happens. will this not kill mining in the long run?

The same thing happened to bitcoin.  It pushes hobbyists out of the marketplace for mining, but doesn't kill mining itself because there's still profit to be made in large farm mining.
legendary
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July 22, 2017, 06:27:56 AM
#48
i think you're a baikal employee.  Grin you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?
legendary
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July 22, 2017, 06:00:51 AM
#47
i can't get my head around how fast things move in the asic market. a new asic comes out and bang almost straight away it's not profitable anymore. crazy. then someone else releases a much more powerful version and the same thing happens. will this not kill mining in the long run?
full member
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July 22, 2017, 02:22:03 AM
#46
Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok. Baikal next time dont hoard miners and sell to all customers not just your vendors this has turned badly for Baikal.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
#45
İgotek bu hayranlığının karşılığı yakında baikalda çalışmaya başlarsın
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 05:06:53 PM
#44
This will be an endless battle, everyone will always justify their purchase, it's human nature. Just let people buy what they want to buy and be happy for them. Either if it's Baikal or iBelink or any other miner.

So great job on getting the new Baikal Giant+ igotek. And great job on your upcoming iBelink bitcoinexplorer. Lets we all make money.

Lets hope for the best, and remember any product purchase is always with regards to VALUE FOR MONEY and its a human nature.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 03:55:49 PM
#43
This will be an endless battle, everyone will always justify their purchase, it's human nature. Just let people buy what they want to buy and be happy for them. Either if it's Baikal or iBelink or any other miner.

So great job on getting the new Baikal Giant+ igotek. And great job on your upcoming iBelink bitcoinexplorer. Lets we all make money.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
#42
We will see what will happen when the other ASIC device manufacturer release their X11 miner. Please dont think Baikal miners only for X11. It mines on different algos.

Some Examples:

Digibyte on Qubit
Geocoin on Qubit
Quark on Quark
MonetaryUnit on Quark (now on X11)

Everyone remember Digibyte pump ?  or MUE pump ?



You are right, but i have some other asics who can mine these coin too so i guess Baikal seriously needs to lower the price or unleash something else.
But the best unit i like is iBelink because they are shipping faster than anyone, plus they have modular approach, like if they release another unit they will simply send me DIY modules to upgrade my iBeLink

legendary
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July 21, 2017, 02:14:45 PM
#41
Its simple, they need to design new chips on a different process, well not simple, expensive and time consuming, they cant just keep throwing more of the same chips into the same amount of space , or slightly larger without having limitations on speed and price and storage space. So im not surprised they cant compete on price. If they have a new chip in the works then it wont be released in a new miner until they sell all of their old inventory. They better do that fast before people get wise.

 They'll still have a market for their cube miners, due to the low entry price and efficiency allowing them to be profitable for some time yet, AND they do mine those other algos with no other ASIC competition.

 I suspect they are going to have to drop pricing a TON on the Giant, and drop the Cube price quite a bit though, once the D3 and A5 start actually shipping.



 By the time the D3 starts shipping, *ASSUMING* that DASH price doesn't drop in the meantime, they're going to be faceing a higher diff that's going to skyrocket fast.
 I don't see the D3 achieving ROI in 10 days - especially if the A5 ships "on time".

hero member
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July 21, 2017, 01:38:29 PM
#40
We will see what will happen when the other ASIC device manufacturer release their X11 miner. Please dont think Baikal miners only for X11. It mines on different algos.

Some Examples:

Digibyte on Qubit
Geocoin on Qubit
Quark on Quark
MonetaryUnit on Quark (now on X11)

Everyone remember Digibyte pump ?  or MUE pump ?

sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 08:37:37 AM
#39
With iBeLink the ROI is just 1 to 2 months. :-)

ibelink is overpriced, the d3 is much better with only $2600 usd needed, you roi in 10 days lmao, the ibelink is priced $8k or 9k if i remember right, but the first one is going to be launched in 4 months which will kill it the roi, the latter will be launched in one month, still with both is a gamble, but i prefer the D3

Well, i purchased my iBelink for $6000 and expecting it to arrive on 10th August.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 07:49:23 AM
#38
just rumors about x11 miners from many companies.

if i see any x11 miner, i can think it is better or not.

There is no x11 miner except Baikal. Dont think about its overpriced. Buy it and mine with it. you will get ROI in 6 months.

Antminer has proven track record. Their release of the L3 and L3+ were on time for the most part and are solid products.

The difficulty jump will put the Baikal unprofitable.

The D3 is 3 times more efficient than the baikal in terms of Hash / watts.

sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 05:35:07 AM
#37
With iBeLink the ROI is just 1 to 2 months. :-)

ibelink is overpriced, the d3 is much better with only $2600 usd needed, you roi in 10 days lmao, the ibelink is priced $8k or 9k if i remember right, but the first one is going to be launched in 4 months which will kill it the roi, the latter will be launched in one month, still with both is a gamble, but i prefer the D3

Think its 7500 on bitbaza 6k on ibelink site.
legendary
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July 21, 2017, 05:08:18 AM
#36
With iBeLink the ROI is just 1 to 2 months. :-)

ibelink is overpriced, the d3 is much better with only $2600 usd needed, you roi in 10 days lmao, the ibelink is priced $8k or 9k if i remember right, but the first one is going to be launched in 4 months which will kill it the roi, the latter will be launched in one month, still with both is a gamble, but i prefer the D3
member
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July 21, 2017, 05:03:13 AM
#35
Company or affiliate shills keep posting these threads no one likes a product this much. I like certain pc manufacturer but never would start a thread praising them that's just stupid.

Anyway Baikal if you want to sell the 2000 m/h miners to us drop the price to 1000 USD right now and we will buy several. Otherwise it's not worth the cost. Delivery within 2 weeks or no deal.

So it costs over 1000$ ? 1000$ is fine, 1500$ too maybe, but still I would like to get a clear price to have an idea of what it does cost !
legendary
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July 21, 2017, 02:59:45 AM
#34
PM ME IF ANYONE WANTS ANY OF THESE
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 01:25:18 AM
#33
Its simple, they need to design new chips on a different process, well not simple, expensive and time consuming, they cant just keep throwing more of the same chips into the same amount of space , or slightly larger without having limitations on speed and price and storage space. So im not surprised they cant compete on price. If they have a new chip in the works then it wont be released in a new miner until they sell all of their old inventory. They better do that fast before people get wise.
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 12:53:24 AM
#32
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

This is a class act, admitting to the downfalls and showing that you guys want to improve. Two thumbs up.

Price aside, if you don't like it, move on. That is why everyone is not driving a Mercedes/BMW.

Yes a BMW which is having atleast 80% less feature(hash rate) and price tag of BMW  Grin
sr. member
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July 21, 2017, 12:50:07 AM
#31
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

Ok i must appreciate that you came forward and explained. Well done.

But now you need to seriously consider below suggestions in your own interest and business profits:-

1. Allow real time online ordering as all other vendors allow
2. Make pricing reasonable, 2000MHs for $7000 is alot of money while we all know after 2 weeks iBeLink 10.8 GHs will be shipped to customers and they are in a very good number to make the hash rate and difficulty higher thus making 2000 MHs equipment less valuable, similarly Bitmain miners will reach customers in October and they are gonna increase it alot more and same time Innisillicon 30 GH monster will be unleashed too. So price needs to be as per demand and value for money.
Its time you make pricing reasonable and sell your units and make some profits or use them to mine yourself.
3. Come up with something better, while you were having better things you were ruling the market, but this is the law of nature that every Top has a bottom and every bottom has a top.

Thanks for considering.
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July 21, 2017, 12:38:36 AM
#30
would be good to have a profitable coin on quark, x13 etc but theres nothing compared to x11 for profit, if an x11 only asic does a better job then a multi algo x11 id concentrate on x11 only like the other miners are doing.

Agreed with you my friend
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July 21, 2017, 12:32:25 AM
#29
would be good to have a profitable coin on quark, x13 etc but theres nothing compared to x11 for profit, if an x11 only asic does a better job then a multi algo x11 id concentrate on x11 only like the other miners are doing.
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July 21, 2017, 12:17:09 AM
#28
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy

This is a class act, admitting to the downfalls and showing that you guys want to improve. Two thumbs up.

Price aside, if you don't like it, move on. That is why everyone is not driving a Mercedes/BMW.
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July 20, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
#27
HI everyone.

We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.

Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.

Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.

We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.

I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.

@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us. Smiley Smiley Smiley
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see Cheesy Cheesy
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July 20, 2017, 10:59:22 PM
#26
I enjoy with my bailkal miner. Where is the other miners ? if i have them, i can talk about them. But i cannot see any x11 miner except Baikal. Antminer D3 ? who did buy antminer D3 ? show me any picture ? my baikal miner is alive Smiley mining PXI currently and has 52 USD profit for daily. 6000 PXI daily.
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July 20, 2017, 10:35:41 PM
#25
Company or affiliate shills keep posting these threads no one likes a product this much. I like certain pc manufacturer but never would start a thread praising them that's just stupid.

Anyway Baikal if you want to sell the 2000 m/h miners to us drop the price to 1000 USD right now and we will buy several. Otherwise it's not worth the cost. Delivery within 2 weeks or no deal.

Agreed with immediate delivery feature, but i would suggest its the right thing to do and maybe they can get some sales...
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July 20, 2017, 10:33:12 PM
#24
Company or affiliate shills keep posting these threads no one likes a product this much. I like certain pc manufacturer but never would start a thread praising them that's just stupid.

Anyway Baikal if you want to sell the 2000 m/h miners to us drop the price to 1000 USD right now and we will buy several. Otherwise it's not worth the cost. Delivery within 2 weeks or no deal.
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July 20, 2017, 10:16:38 PM
#23
That's why said 2 months....but in every way much better ROI than Baikal
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July 20, 2017, 10:14:04 PM
#22
With iBeLink the ROI is just 1 to 2 months. :-)

And yoo do realise difficulty increases over time to compensate?
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July 20, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
#21
With iBeLink the ROI is just 1 to 2 months. :-)
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July 20, 2017, 09:23:25 PM
#20
just rumors about x11 miners from many companies.

if i see any x11 miner, i can think it is better or not.

There is no x11 miner except Baikal. Dont think about its overpriced. Buy it and mine with it. you will get ROI in 6 months.
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July 20, 2017, 08:36:06 PM
#19
Do you think D3 will be reliable as its first batch and probably they are working on a prototype now (as no photo was released and just l3 photo was placed)
Nobody knows, Bitmain has very high variance in terms of batch reliability so it may be true that the first batch is unreliable and they tweak it throughout later batches. Seems like they are in early stages of development atm with the L3 photos but they may use the same chassis for the miner. Fingers crossed they didn't rush development and they've just now decided to shoot the gun.
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July 20, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
#18
Do you think D3 will be reliable as its first batch and probably they are working on a prototype now (as no photo was released and just l3 photo was placed)
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July 20, 2017, 08:17:02 PM
#17
The Baikal A+ iant is over priced and not hard to order you can order on asicminer dot com they have 100+ in stock at 7300.00 WOW. This is BS too expensive for 2000 mhs when bitmain is 15ghs I did not pay for Ibelink @10.8 Ghs to wait for D3 why would anyone want a Baikal with the shit customer services they are like DIVAs who do not answer emails and always out of stock because they hoard miners or sell to Chinese only then we get shafted by overpriced miners. Baikal is now a waste of time and throw away good money on weak miner. All the vendors selling Baikal are horrible with customers very good the party for them is over. good riddance.
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July 20, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
#16
Wow, you OP are the biggest Baikal fan boy I've ever met.
I like their stuff too (as I have few), but we must all come to realise that Bitmain and Innosilicon are soon way ahead compared to Baikal or Pindea or Ibelink.

I used Baikal mini miner. You have them. and you know how their quality.Cube is better quality. And A2000 Giant+ ? Really good. The best of them.

I believe the Baikal team will make huge compute power miner. Everyone knows the Baikal team is the first team who made ASIC devices for X11, Quark, Qubit.
The bitmain Antminer D3 is only for X11. How about Quark and Qubit ? I dont think the Antminer D3 will end Baikal ASIC devices. Baikal will be the best always.


I agree with others that Baikal is not transparent with very high pricing as compare to Bitmain or iBeLink, they need to come with a good product which is priced reasonably.

For example check their website even now they didn't mentioned the price of Giant on their website ... oh they did few days back (i remember) and then they intentionally removed it because they know they are selling way more expensive.

Lets hope they can correct themselves or they will loose their market share.


All we need is competition I guess. More ASICs for x11 will help to set lower price (bit the diff will go up too Sad )
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July 20, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
#15
It needs only 430 Watt on X11 algo and the hashrate value is 2050 Mh/s on X11. Really good values. Not power hungry like Antminers.  Smiley

I think you may want to check your math... 2GH/s @ 430 watts = 215 watts/GH. The AntMiner D3 isn't even claiming to be the most power efficient and is only using 80 watts/GH.

 Prior to the D3 and A5, that was quite efficient for X11 mining.
 It's also a lot lower draw than any of the other manyGhs miners.


 Baikal really needs to work on their customer interface.
 Trying to order from them is a big enough nightmare that I eventually gave up on it.


 Bailkal was NOT the first folks to create an ASIC for X11 - they were third, behind Pinidea and Ibelink.

 They WERE the first for the non-X11 algos that their miners support though - and that MIGHT keep them alive 'till they can come up with a competative miner to the D3 or A5.

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July 20, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
#14
Wow, you OP are the biggest Baikal fan boy I've ever met.
I like their stuff too (as I have few), but we must all come to realise that Bitmain and Innosilicon are soon way ahead compared to Baikal or Pindea or Ibelink.

I used Baikal mini miner. You have them. and you know how their quality.Cube is better quality. And A2000 Giant+ ? Really good. The best of them.

I believe the Baikal team will make huge compute power miner. Everyone knows the Baikal team is the first team who made ASIC devices for X11, Quark, Qubit.
The bitmain Antminer D3 is only for X11. How about Quark and Qubit ? I dont think the Antminer D3 will end Baikal ASIC devices. Baikal will be the best always.


I agree with others that Baikal is not transparent with very high pricing as compare to Bitmain or iBeLink, they need to come with a good product which is priced reasonably.

For example check their website even now they didn't mentioned the price of Giant on their website ... oh they did few days back (i remember) and then they intentionally removed it because they know they are selling way more expensive.

Lets hope they can correct themselves or they will loose their market share.
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July 20, 2017, 03:33:40 PM
#13
Wow, you OP are the biggest Baikal fan boy I've ever met.
I like their stuff too (as I have few), but we must all come to realise that Bitmain and Innosilicon are soon way ahead compared to Baikal or Pindea or Ibelink.

I used Baikal mini miner. You have them. and you know how their quality.Cube is better quality. And A2000 Giant+ ? Really good. The best of them.

I believe the Baikal team will make huge compute power miner. Everyone knows the Baikal team is the first team who made ASIC devices for X11, Quark, Qubit.
The bitmain Antminer D3 is only for X11. How about Quark and Qubit ? I dont think the Antminer D3 will end Baikal ASIC devices. Baikal will be the best always.
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July 20, 2017, 02:12:07 PM
#12
It is somehow deceiving considering Antminer D3 offers 15 GH/s. Moreover they have a very weird system to give the price as you have to ask them, they give it to you - and can scam you by asking more than other people - and you have two hours to pay. Very weird and unprofessional...

Antminer D3 sold out in 2 hours. No detailed information at the web site. I doubt thet sell Andtminer D3. I think it is for checking the order request only. Or they have them and use for their own mining. You cannot buy it now and for a long time.

Baikal team sells the new A2000 Giant + miner. They dont ask more than the other people. If you try to buy from aliexpress, ebay etc, yes the people want more money than the usual price. But the Baikal team dont want higher price. I think the price of the A2000 Giant + has really good price. 6 months ROI sounds good.

This is of course interesting and I will check how much they sell them, and if they do not sell at a too high price I will order one, or maybe several if they sell it at a good price.
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July 20, 2017, 01:39:27 PM
#11
Wow, you OP are the biggest Baikal fan boy I've ever met.
I like their stuff too (as I have few), but we must all come to realise that Bitmain and Innosilicon are soon way ahead compared to Baikal or Pindea or Ibelink.
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July 20, 2017, 12:41:59 PM
#10
It needs only 430 Watt on X11 algo and the hashrate value is 2050 Mh/s on X11. Really good values. Not power hungry like Antminers.  Smiley

I think you may want to check your math... 2GH/s @ 430 watts = 215 watts/GH. The AntMiner D3 isn't even claiming to be the most power efficient and is only using 80 watts/GH.
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July 20, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
#9
Not wanting to deal with the sh*tshow of trying to buy one of these miners from Baikal.

They are ANYTHING but professional.  Skype this, email that, quote this, skype again, sorry sold out.  Radio silence, don't respond.

If they can't communicate clearly about the ordering processes, it makes me uneasy as to their delivery processes or if any hiccups happen.

No thanks.

Bitmain isn't the greatest with support, but at least the ordering processes and ensuring delivery is decent.



It is somehow deceiving considering Antminer D3 offers 15 GH/s. Moreover they have a very weird system to give the price as you have to ask them, they give it to you - and can scam you by asking more than other people - and you have two hours to pay. Very weird and unprofessional...

Antminer D3 sold out in 2 hours. No detailed information at the web site. I doubt thet sell Andtminer D3. I think it is for checking the order request only. Or they have them and use for their own mining. You cannot buy it now and for a long time.

Baikal team sells the new A2000 Giant + miner. They dont ask more than the other people. If you try to buy from aliexpress, ebay etc, yes the people want more money than the usual price. But the Baikal team dont want higher price. I think the price of the A2000 Giant + has really good price. 6 months ROI sounds good.

In 3 months when the mega miners hit, the time to recoup capital investment is going to extend out quite a bit on a 2k MHS miner.
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July 20, 2017, 12:19:36 PM
#8
yeah the d3 is far better and cost the same lol, there is no reason to buy baikal anymore, contenders are offerings a very fast miners now, with lower price, but they are on pre/order which i hate and i won-t pre order anything until it-s ready and i see the new diff and new roi time
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July 20, 2017, 10:47:44 AM
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It is somehow deceiving considering Antminer D3 offers 15 GH/s. Moreover they have a very weird system to give the price as you have to ask them, they give it to you - and can scam you by asking more than other people - and you have two hours to pay. Very weird and unprofessional...

Antminer D3 sold out in 2 hours. No detailed information at the web site. I doubt thet sell Andtminer D3. I think it is for checking the order request only. Or they have them and use for their own mining. You cannot buy it now and for a long time.

Baikal team sells the new A2000 Giant + miner. They dont ask more than the other people. If you try to buy from aliexpress, ebay etc, yes the people want more money than the usual price. But the Baikal team dont want higher price. I think the price of the A2000 Giant + has really good price. 6 months ROI sounds good.
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July 20, 2017, 10:46:01 AM
#5

There are 46 chips (24 + 24) in this miner. Not bad temperature. Put the mşner in fromt of the climate system. You will see around 40 c.

Thank you,will do that, I now adjusting fan speed testing. Smiley

It is somehow deceiving considering Antminer D3 offers 15 GH/s. Moreover they have a very weird system to give the price as you have to ask them, they give it to you - and can scam you by asking more than other people - and you have two hours to pay. Very weird and unprofessional...
yes, I also contacted with them by skype..  but they offer final quotation from their email.. so, just make sure paid according to the details from their official email. then you won't be scammed...

somehow I am kind of man who perfer this communication way, not so formulaic, it is more friendly.. and I can do some negotiation with them Grin Grin
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July 20, 2017, 10:42:47 AM
#4
Hi got mine too!!  Grin Grin

Dash price is up again,  I am happy with that. fast and safe shipment. they said 1 week, I got my waybill on 3rd day after I paid!!!

miner running at total 2067Mh/s, very stable. I noticed temperature is around 54 degrees, I had sent my email to them for this question. because my mini miner is only at 35 degrees.  Cry

There are 46 chips (24 + 24) in this miner. Not bad temperature. Put the miner in front of the climate system. You will see around 40 c. And you can change the fan speed.
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July 20, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
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It is somehow deceiving considering Antminer D3 offers 15 GH/s. Moreover they have a very weird system to give the price as you have to ask them, they give it to you - and can scam you by asking more than other people - and you have two hours to pay. Very weird and unprofessional...
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July 20, 2017, 10:25:31 AM
#2
Hi got mine too!!  Grin Grin

Dash price is up again,  I am happy with that. fast and safe shipment. they said 1 week, I got my waybill on 3rd day after I paid!!!

miner running at total 2067Mh/s, very stable. I noticed temperature is around 54 degrees, I had sent my email to them for this question. because my mini miner is only at 35 degrees.  Cry
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