OP For the sake of your sanity, stop tracking new topics on the gambling discussion board. I'm interested how you deal with hundreds of new topic notifications on your mobile every day. Lol. The only board I'm tracking is the local board, cause it allows me to act fast and remove spam topics before they get public attention
As others have pointed out, it will simply delay the inevitable; it will not fix it. Just report.
Topic: New forum rule suggestion (Read 212 times)
Also even if this is implemented they will simply just continue with what they do. They will simply create the accounts and leave them lying there till the period they could be able to post so sadly I don’t see it been implemented.
in other ways they could create multiple accounts in advance of the time they'll be needing them for their use and that makes the suggestion of no accomplishment if implemented. Humans unlike common animals are very difficult creatures to contain, they will always find a way to do that which their mind is made up to do. So leaving it in the already existing pattern where moderators just do the needful on such posts is still the best way for now.More so, If implemented, It would rather be punishing to the genuine newbies with good intentions than those who the suggestion was really intended for.
You couldn't be more wrong. Normal, real users would be very annoyed by this, while spammers simply wait 2 days after creating 10,000 accounts.
24hrs wait time means enough time to create dozens of accounts and the process continues- you're correct. It is a recipe for disaster. Quote
So the problem isn't even the forum, it's a third-party notification app you're using? See this discussion for a solution. And just report the spam on the forum.
I agree with this as well. Waking up to 40 post notification on telegram or constant notifications after some intervals is irksome. However, those who don't use this telegram bot don't notice it. There's even almost no need to report these posts be because they are locked as soon as the users hit the send button.
If you watch carefully you would see I made similar post days ago or last week, there were lots of suggestions and, also from what the administrator said that it won't help and they are trying as much as possible to delete with immediate effect after they post. But you can also report such account and when admin sense same topic and same content they will ban such user, and what I understand is that forum is trying as best as possible to be free without anyone being restricted except if they violate the rules.
Therefore if you find such post is either you report with immediate effects to be deleted or ban from having access to the forum.
Therefore if you find such post is either you report with immediate effects to be deleted or ban from having access to the forum.
Instead of any new rule, I guess that we may request Theymos to appoint more number of mods to analyse spam reports in real quick.
I am sure there are enough users round the clock to report instantly on spotting any spam attack and if mods start to nuke the newbie spammers by deleting the post/topic (along with IP ban), I guess we can stop the attacks of spammers effectively.
If SMF software allows, we may go for automate the banning process of newbie accounts against the first report itself.
I am sure there are enough users round the clock to report instantly on spotting any spam attack and if mods start to nuke the newbie spammers by deleting the post/topic (along with IP ban), I guess we can stop the attacks of spammers effectively.
If SMF software allows, we may go for automate the banning process of newbie accounts against the first report itself.
Bravo on that suggestion. Like I said, most newbies for the past 5 or more years have come here strictly for the money and nothing else, and if any restriction(s) can combat the spam attacks by members of the lowest ranks, I say let 'em have it, full force.
I think you missed my sarcasm. By blocking everyone including the (few?) good Newbies, this forum would eventually die.Allow me to highlight who the Proxyban blocked:
Users whitelisted by me after a request
I can't be sure if they would have paid the evil fee if I wouldn't have whitelisted them, but it would have been a HUGE loss for the forum. - Hero Member n0nce (3514 Posts) 5829 Merit (all posts | BPIP)
- Hero Member PowerGlove (514 Posts) (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) 4096 Merit (all posts | BPIP)
If you had used the search button, i am pretty sure you'd have seen a handful of suggestions similar to this and the responses that were given in those threads. Newbie jail will never return, and Theymos will not implement anything that will limit newbies on the forum. That being said, even if your suggestion is implemented, it does not solve the problem, the spammers will simply wait until they can spam, the only thing you can do is report any spam post or thread you see, that's the best solution we have now.
So do you agree Brand New Accounts should be disabled from posting immediately after creation until after 24hrs? Let's hear your opinions
And how exactly would that stop spam? All that newly created accounts would just wait for 24 hours before spamming. So no, I do not agree, and more importantly theymos is not the fan of newbie "jails".
Even a 10-year old newbie account can start a spam thread like this one
Registered 2014 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/calebepaz-404645
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-high-quality-exchange-service-5511965
https://ninjastic.space/topic/5511965.0
Obviously this thread was created to shill a Telegram based exchange
Registered 2014 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/calebepaz-404645
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-high-quality-exchange-service-5511965
https://ninjastic.space/topic/5511965.0
Obviously this thread was created to shill a Telegram based exchange
theymos doesn't like to bring the newbie jail back.
I think said newbie jail was a thing before my time, but I have to wonder if these sporadic spamming problems were as bad back then--my gut tells me they weren't, and if that's true then Theymos would do well do give some thought to restoring the jail. Brand New and Newbie accounts haven't contributed much for years anyway, so what's the big deal? The number of members who've worked their way up the ranks in the past 3 years to become respected members who contribute to the forum positively and consistently I could probably count on one hand.
Banning people from posting for x time will just delay the inevitable by x time. Not going to help.
That's easy to fix: just increase the time they can't post! I bet 876,000 hours will do miracles against spam!Bravo on that suggestion. Like I said, most newbies for the past 5 or more years have come here strictly for the money and nothing else, and if any restriction(s) can combat the spam attacks by members of the lowest ranks, I say let 'em have it, full force.
implement new feature to disable Brand new accounts from posting on the forum immediately they are created until either 24hrs - 48hrs before having access to post on the forum, it will definitely reduce the rate of this new spamming forum method.
You couldn't be more wrong. Normal, real users would be very annoyed by this, while spammers simply wait 2 days after creating 10,000 accounts.Banning people from posting for x time will just delay the inevitable by x time. Not going to help.
That's easy to fix: just increase the time they can't post! I bet 876,000 hours will do miracles against spam! 
As much you, I am annoyed by those spammers I had to keep my telegram on mute until now but they won't be able to keep doing this for long time and my bet they won't be here for the next week so restricting the potential newbie is not necessary because making them not be able to post for 24 hours is gonna drive them to worst places and get crappy suggestions.
Those spams were removed as much as possible so all we need to do is keep em reporting.
Those spams were removed as much as possible so all we need to do is keep em reporting.
Banning people from posting for x time will just delay the inevitable by x time. Not going to help.
This is a good idea, but there are also newbies with good intentions, like admins or representatives of casinos who want to launch their announcement here, and some newbies actually post their announcement or service on their first post and just improve along the way when they get instructions on how to proceed properly.
These newbie spammers will not stop from what they are doing; they will keep doing it even if there is this kind of restriction. its better to report them to the moderators. I noticed that they delete the thread and ban Newbie who keeps doing this.
These newbie spammers will not stop from what they are doing; they will keep doing it even if there is this kind of restriction. its better to report them to the moderators. I noticed that they delete the thread and ban Newbie who keeps doing this.
There was an user suggest to disabled register a new account and now someone propose to freeze the accounts for 24-48 years something like newbie jail, however theymos doesn't like to bring the newbie jail back.
Fortunately I didn't use that kind of bots notification, so I didn't get bothered by these spammers. You can temporary unsubscribe the bots if you don't want to receive notifications from these spammers.
Yes, though it's true Newbie jail is likely to be harmful to the forum just as Sir Theymos stated above, but the rate at which these spammers continue spamming the forum for the past few days is really annoying to be frankly speaking, which is what actually prompted me into writing this article if there could be any possible solution, because I don't intend to unsubscribe my "Telegram SuperNotifier", as this tool has really been very useful for me for the past few years, as I can't afford to trade my notifications just to avoid mere spam messages. Fortunately I didn't use that kind of bots notification, so I didn't get bothered by these spammers. You can temporary unsubscribe the bots if you don't want to receive notifications from these spammers.
Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
I just wish there could be a solution to this.. I will be very grateful, because it's getting alarming.
In as much as I will love any idea to stop this kind of spamming I think this suggestion isn’t far from the idea of newbie jail which theymos clearly doesn’t want
Also even if this is implemented they will simply just continue with what they do. They will simply create the accounts and leave them lying there till the period they could be able to post so sadly I don’t see it been implemented.
Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
Also even if this is implemented they will simply just continue with what they do. They will simply create the accounts and leave them lying there till the period they could be able to post so sadly I don’t see it been implemented.
If someone wants to spam then they will find a way, what's stopping them from creating mass accounts from clean IPs (avoid paying evil IP fee) and wait the time limit before releasing the havoc. (It's bad for readers but could be fun for someone the creator to annoy others)
There was an user suggest to disabled register a new account and now someone propose to freeze the accounts for 24-48 years something like newbie jail, however theymos doesn't like to bring the newbie jail back.
Fortunately I didn't use that kind of bots notification, so I didn't get bothered by these spammers. You can temporary unsubscribe the bots if you don't want to receive notifications from these spammers.
Fortunately I didn't use that kind of bots notification, so I didn't get bothered by these spammers. You can temporary unsubscribe the bots if you don't want to receive notifications from these spammers.
Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
It's obvious for the past 3 days we have had few users spamming the forum, and most especially the Gambling, Bitcoin Discussion and Beginners & Help boards of the forum with same content, of which though moderators have been deleting those posts, these spammers keep creating multiple new accounts and reposting it, hence, spamming our Bitcointalk Telegram SuperNotifier bot, which has always been a useful tool in getting notifications about new thread on selected designated boards. And on that not, I was able to come up with a perfect solution to curb/prevent this menace, and by that I mean if Sir Theymos could implement new feature to disable Brand new accounts from posting on the forum immediately they are created until either 24hrs - 48hrs before having access to post on the forum, it will definitely reduce the rate of this new spamming forum method.
because I was able to investigate all the accounts involved in this new spam and I noticed one thing in common, which is they were all created same day and within the same timeframe.
So what's your view on this? Do you agree Brand New Accounts should be disabled from posting on the forum immediately they got created until 24hrs or what other prevention method do you think can be use to curb this new method of forum spamming?
So do you agree Brand New Accounts should be disabled from posting immediately after creation until after 24hrs? Let's hear your opinions
because I was able to investigate all the accounts involved in this new spam and I noticed one thing in common, which is they were all created same day and within the same timeframe.
So what's your view on this? Do you agree Brand New Accounts should be disabled from posting on the forum immediately they got created until 24hrs or what other prevention method do you think can be use to curb this new method of forum spamming?
BITCOINTALK SUPERNOTIFIER
SPAMMERS ACCOUNT
You could noticed all accounts were created almost the same timeframe and use immediately to spam the forum
You could noticed all accounts were created almost the same timeframe and use immediately to spam the forum
So do you agree Brand New Accounts should be disabled from posting immediately after creation until after 24hrs? Let's hear your opinions
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