Topic: New printed money into crypto? How? (Read 620 times)

The first delivery for that kind of money would be the primary dealers who have priority access to the treasury bond market.   This is a wanted position so much that the Chinese have tried to pay others to bid on their behalf which is not allowed but whose going to argue with people who hold and could dispose of trillions of what you are trying to sell more of.
    Then we have to look at who are the primary dealers then using the 'new' money with, they have employees who will spend some of the money but the bank itself is the main distributor of funds and even Goldman Sachs a gilded partnership type setup previously is now a consumer facing bank.   Hence I think the idea is that the money that the primary banks receive is somehow beneficial even to the common people by providing liqudity and stability to all finance operations, of course we know banks will buy and sell what is most profitable to them personally.   This has been twinned with wider regulation I think but I dont think that encourages innovation and growth any more then inflation does.
   Capitalism is by no means a fair system but it should at least be competitive so that any can succeed and thrive by being the most efficient sophisticated operator, we have a strong bias with this central bank money that I dont think adds overall competition across the economy.   Some of the money will come to Crypto but only speculatively via third parties enabled by funding of a major bank that might not otherwise be there.

He's talking about printed fiat money, injected into the crypto markets. For example, the Fed is buying $60 billion of Treasury bills per month. That injects cash into the economy, some of which could find its way into crypto.

LOL OP is talking about fresh money for the market OP is referring to new investor .

I agree with you but that it have a potential but just like the OP,
I am also curious on when would it happen because if I am not mistaken the stocks and gold have gain some value so for sure that means that they got some new investor.

Printed crypto money? Is there any? I dont think so.. I know there is a bitcoin coin but as I know, it cannot be use.


There is a right time for bitcoin to increase again. Don't just rely on the current market today. We all know that bitcoin has a potential and we all witness it. Maybe this is just not a good year for bitcoin.

Having fiat available doesn't necessarily mean that it must go to buying coins in the crypto market. Besides, USD printed more dollars to boost economic growth and not to accommodate the amount of bitcoin in the market so that it could potentially boost its price. Countries print more money because of supply and demand for the resources that human beings need, not for bitcoin itself. Even if BTC did reach 100k USD or such, it would just result in more people holding a coin because of the huge price it has. Coins would be split to a lot of users and that way, the community could cough up 100k USD for one BTC.

Buy it all with bitcoin. We still have a lot left.   And then, they should stop creating another paper money.
But I doubt that will happen.

If the tota fiat money that was spread is getting lower then they will find a way to bring it back to the rotation.
How? By creating more.
To insert them in the crypto industry? Well, that depends on how the government will be making new laws and bills.

I would like you to calculate the years of existence of those listed things to when bitcoin was created, you will see that bitcoin is still a baby sucking breast and trying to grow string as a baby, it is not surprising to me that those ones are more popular than bitcoin and they have more population than bitcoin.

The marketcap of gold is in trillions, and it is people that owns that trillions, so you should expect that the population of gold and other are still very much more than bitcoin, so when it comes to printing of new money, it would surely have an effect on those ones more than bitcoin because of the number of people that are in their community already, as bitcoin grows, bitcoin will also get to that stage where in future, its value will be affected by something similar.

if btc is still down then dont say that everything is going up . stable assets that you listed are in good condition .

they are up so this might be the reason why btc is still down because people are earning a good income on them and yet they continue to put thier funds on those stable assts while they take a leave on bitcoin and other cryptos for a while but as soon as those stable assets have go down , im sure that people will start crawling back to cryptos again .

I don't know why are you saying that stock is booming and property is booming. As far as I can see stocks are starting to fall and so are properties and gold has started to rise. Yes maybe the money flushed out from the stocks and property can be pumped into Bitcoin. However the problem here is stocks and especially property are considered very very safe investments while bitcoin is pretty volatile. Bitcoin can fall enough in a day which property might fall in years. So i have a doubt that people will invest the money they took out of the property to Cryptocurrencies.

Just because, governments can print new money and buy bitcoin with it doesn't mean that it would create a bubble, that would just increase the price of bitcoin and that is a good thing, that is exactly what we should be hoping for the governments to do. Think about it, governments all around the world printing hundreds of billions of dollars all going into bitcoin would mean that people with bitcoin would become rich and governments are de facto accepting bitcoin as a good thing.

Now, even if they print it and give it to people (or usually banks) then they would buy it, it is still a great profit for all of us. It is the moment they sell what we should be afraid of, that is the risky part, 100+ billion dollar worth of bitcoin at the hands of 100 corporations is a very dangerous thing.

If what you expect come true then the demand for bitcoin will increase in short time + the up coming bitcoin halving which will happen this year 2020, so there is a high possibility that we might experience a new ATH for bitcoin. i guess this is one of the basis of those so called "expert" with their predictions why bitcoin will rise in the next coming year.

Not unless the government itself will decide to add Bitcoin as one of its reserve currency (just like the real gold), those newly minted paper money has no chance to find their way to cryptocurrency. Well, technically, the money can go to banks and banks can use them to finance their usual business and then the money can be on circulation within the economy...so its possible the money can fall to someone who is a Bitcoin supporter/enthusiast but this can just be an imaginary story to be honest. Maybe the concern is: Will there be a negative effect to Bitcoin if the government will keep on using the so-called quantitative easing (printing money)? The answer to that question is negative, the one affected here is the dollar itself.

Credit cards are subject to cash advance limits, usually a small fraction of a customer's total credit line, and also very high cash advance fees. More than that, major credit card issuers have been banning crypto purchases:


So it's interesting to see Paypal entering the market like this.

There are lots of exchanges nowadays that are accepting credit cards, as well as paypal like what you said.

Having this kind of printed money into crypto creates a big help in mass adaption, we'll for sure support this, added to this, hoping to have a good regulation in our government and that they would not restrict the usage of crypto in every nation.

I noticed Bitmain started accepting Paypal. More than that, they're accepting Paypal Credit. I've had a several thousand dollar credit limit for years with them, never used it. I wonder how many other people there are like that who are now using it to buy mining gear.

I suppose that's one way printed money could trickle into crypto.

Yes btc did, but we need More!

50k price at least!! 

There was not any fresh printing yet.US markets are at ATH because of hope for more cut rates and more QE
Draghi decided about new EBC QE but it was against EBC council and Madame Legarde new EBC Chairman will probably change decision.However it was repo done in silence huge  50 bln dollars has been pumped in to US banking system.It means banks has liquidity problems.Imagine banks are reviving all that printed money but they have liquidity problems.So what banks are doing with all that money
I have flashback from 2007.That year was first singes of crisis.Similar repo has been done same like now there was headlines about war against Iran stocks was  ATH.it is also 12 years cycle so we can have next crisis
But 12 years gone do you think that people will like to pay for banks loses as it was in 2008
i am not sure about more QE.Madame Legarde is economist Wall Street hates her because she was and voting to stop that financial madness.Powell is much more responsible than Bernanke.Maybe lesson learned .Economist very well know that QE and rates cut was any medicine for crisis
Now most of economist very well know that all that last bad economic data was caused by trade war
If you are saying that bitcoin didn"t rise than count from 3100 to current 8100 and find me any asset index what gave that kind of gains

The total market cap of all cryptocurrencies is still very low when compared to other assets. The hypothetical value is only $213B right now, real being much less. So there is still lot of scope of investment in cryptocurrencies. If every thing goes right, we may see market value increasing by 10 times in next 5 years. It is wrong to assume that Bitcoin market has reach the saturating point and need new printed money. It is still possible that existing money will enter crypto market soon. Just keep believing bitcoin.

When governments around the world accept cryptocurrencies, money will be poured into this market aggressively. It is also possible that in the future the technology of cryptocurrencies will be put into practice, then people will have a more positive view of the market and they will invest in it.

Bitcoin and gold market future is very bright. Where do you find stocks markets booming ?
I think the fiat currencies will be very much devalued due to economic pressure and inflation. People will two options either to move  their funds in crypto or buy gold. Most of the conventional people will buy gold but a lot of new generation will comes towards crypto investments.

Basically if the dollar is devalued (as you can see china and other countries want to lessen the dominance of US Dollar), other currencies like Euro or AUS dollar will also experience the same pressure and people will be tempted to move their funds in bitcoins.

I think its true! 

What kind of crypto related Companies are they?

Tether really sucks, they don't worth 1 usdt to 1 dollar at all and people still use it that way, it just makes it easier for them. The sad thing is even if there was a new stable currency that actually backs its currency 1 to 1 people wouldn't really look at it, they would just let it be because usdt is already in all exchanges and it is a lot easier to use something that is convenient than use something that would take time for adoption.

In any case new printed money could be spent buying bitcoin easily which would balloon the price of bitcoin because there are extra fiat going around enough to buy a ton of bitcoins, now will that new money go to bitcoin we have no clue but at least the option is available. I would assume it could go as "investment to crypto related companies" which would be the most logical solution.

Bitcoin is not down. Bitcoin gained this year probably few times more that everything else you mentioned. Price increase for 110%.  How much price of Gold increased from January?  Which stocks you like most? How much those grow?

That's very unlikely. At most, the profits booked through Gold will be put into Silver for diversification purposes, especially when it comes to actual precious metal bugs. I have been reading through many precious metal blogs and whatnot, the hate and dislike towards crypto is intense. To them crypto is more unnecessary inflation, something they are against.

Crypto as alternative investment option is at the very bottom of pretty much any investment list. People aren't just skeptical about the market conditions (read, volatility, manipulation, etc) but also the fact that it isn't backed by anything. Crypto appeals to traders looking to leverage the volatile nature of this market and short term flippers, which is where most of the liquidity comes from. Other than that, it's not much actual interest.

We wouldn't know on when those fresh printed money will flow to crypto market and hence, stocks and fiat doesn't correlate anytime with crypto when it comes to price.
Volatility and Lack of regulation on what it makes to be like this.Institutional money might already be flowing behind but it will be surely out of scope of the public.
Come to think that if a country does print out new paper money they wont consider anytime on flushing all of those stuffs into the market yet how you do think about on using on developing their economy instead?

I have seen bitcoin grew even without this pairs before.
Let us not give credits to this newly created coins which are doomed in the future.

I say more like altcoins are really the one who pulled it up and the buyers using their fiat.
By now it aint that difficult to buy bitcoin anymore unlike before. There might be countries who is still against it but they cannot stop a buyer who really want one.

I'm going to assume that you're talking about the Fed's easing of monetary policy, which is the modern definition of central banks "printing new money".

If you're wondering why certain assets have climbed in value as a result of the expanded money supply, but not BTC or cryptos, it's really very simple.

1. There is a window of around a year before monetary policy is actually transmitted into the economy.
2. MP only in theory affects aggregate asset values, but when you look at each individual asset and their price cycles, if an easing in policy coincides with a bearish market sentiment (like crypto is in, right now), then it is absolutely possible that there is no net effect or even continued slip in crypto values.

I can't get what you meant by fresh money as well I don't agree with the term bitcoin is still down. If this is low then what will you say about the value of bitcoin during the month of February and March. After April it has grown in a stable way and has reached this margin.

There might be fresh economy, but that doesn't mean the economic situation around the globe has got retained and this is not good comparing the world economy with bitcoin.

Not- sure if you're talking about BTC and how the supply works, but there is a limited supply and you can never print/make more BTC appear, having a limited supply is great because no manipulation can occur in the market.

I agree with this mate - we've also seen in extreme cases where the money is being printed at such a rate it actually causes inflation - look at Germany after the World War if you want a really extreme example.

The new money being printed is not free money that would end up in someone's house and then put it into crypto. People would not be paid more than their wage or what they are entitled to because of the free money. No it won't. Where I see this money coming into crypto is the indirect means. For someone who is earning returns on his gold due to it rising up might want to diversify thereby putting some money into crypto. Another scenario is the individual who got fat bonuses because the 'new money' now made it available for its company to obtain loan from the bank and thereby increasing their bottom line or scale of operation can then put money into crypto just to have a safe haven considering that the price right now is on the low side which gives the opportunity to enter the market and make reasonable returns within a short period of time.

not really. in fact those pairs have the lowest volumes as they are not popular at all. these pairs are also mostly found on altcoin exchanges and they still have lower volumes as tether and other stable coins are mostly used for trading altcoins.
not to mention that bitcoin price is determined on bitcoin exchanges which only have fiat markets (usd/btc).

It isn't a straightforward process. The best analogy I can think of is called "sector rotation." It's this idea that stock investors take profits in one sector and move onto the next depending on the market's position in the business cycle:



In a broader sense, I believe this behavior is not restricted to stocks. There are cycles of money flow among bonds, equities, real estate, commodities, etc. During "risk-on" cycles, some excess capital will flow into the crypto markets.

Even if the government prints new money their citizens still has to earn it, the government just don't give them away to their citizens for them to spend it on everything. If you are expecting that the newly printed money will go on its way fast in the crypto industry then think again, printing new money doesn't mean a thing aside from devaluing their own fiat currency. It doesn't promote anything about boosting the economy but it's just about timing the supply and demand for it.

The money that the fed prints is not going directly into Cryptocurrencies. They are going mostly into stocks.

There is alot of speculation out there that there is a huge supply of new US dollars printed and it leads to massive inflation and people will be buying bitcoin instead to hedge against that inflation. This is similiar to what happened back in 2013 with the Yuan devaluation and it lead to the crazy chinese crypto rally of 2014 where BTC peaked at $1100 or so. People were losing money holding their fiat, so they hedged some of their savings into Bitcoin instead. Right now there is speculation that the same will happen with the US dollar.

But BTC  goes up when usually there is large buy orders  Usually on biggest well known exchangers
Pairs like :  usdt to btc usdc to btc.

Yes i think you are right!

The money has already been printed. A long time ago. There are a lot of people out there who don't have to worry about money and have millions of dollars just sitting in the bank that they don't have to even worry about if they lost it. Even if those people don't invest in Bitcoin personally, they may purchase lets say a classic car from a guy for $50,000. He then takes $10,000 of that $50,000 and invests it into Bitcoin. Even 1,000 people working a part time job investing only $20/month into Bitcoin adds up after a while. The money is already in the economy to invest in. As soon as Bitcoin is all over the news again(in a positive way), it will come into the marketcap.

Bitcoin price is going up yes only If there is demand.

Sure the Capital is there but mainly the fresh money is invested into Property /stocks/gold.

Once the Property/stocks/gold will go up the first investors will start selling 20%-50% to make some profits it will make small crash that crash will create FUD. 

50% Capital might find the Way to cryptocurrency markets! 


I give mximum a month and we will see the gold price to come down even stocks.

But it wount stay down for too long, there is alot new Capital wich will make prices to go ATH.


WE ARE pretty much clear about gold/stocks/Property prices, but crypto DESTINY Still Unknown!

Im asking that kind of question, as there is many crypto analyzers and crypto so called "experts "
And their predictions like btc to 100k. Or even 300k.

If they are so sure about this why they dont explain how the fiat money fresh money printed by mostly ecb and Federal reserve will find the Way in to crypto market?
Coz when this money is not going to be invested into cryptocurrency then btc will not reach even to 15k. In order to btc go to at least 20k there must be exacly Plan and action how and from wich door or gate the fiat currency will be invested into crypto market  !!

You sound almost gleeful about the rampant money printing and I would be careful about that.  The stocks, metals, and real estate assets that have gone up over the past few years may not be a good thing at all.  If there's too much money available it creates an artificial bubble destined to pop eventually.  Metals might be going up because traders are sick of inflated stock values and I would venture that gold might be a good investment right now.

As regards bitcoin, there has to be demand for it.  There is certainly enough investor money available but if they arent interested in it, bitcoin's price isn't going to rise.  But in my estimation I believe bitcoin is in a temporary slump.  There was a big selloff after it hit its latest high, which produced the correction we now see.  Not sure at all what money printing has to do with it.

In my opinion fresh money generally goes into the bond or stock markets, not in crypto.  Were that the case, Bakkt might be performing much better.

As thether claiming that in order to mint new thether they must have 25% of real currency in their fractionar reserve.

So in order to create 75mil usd they just have to have 25mil usd.



Could be the tether will be the gate to the crypto markets for the new printed Money entering in crypto?

The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?