[new rule] stop people giving the mean and interquartile range without box plot

HCP

legendary

Activity: 2086

Merit: 4318

Quote from: Lauda on May 26, 2019, 12:21:55 PM

A lot of people have started making a lot of useless data just for the sake of merit farming.

This ---^

Quote

Don't waste merit on those threads anymore.

And also This ---^

It is pretty blatant what is happening with these threads/posts... and I see they've started popping up (unsolicited?) in campaign threads as well... Roll Eyes

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 4085

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: jackg on May 26, 2019, 01:01:43 PM

@tran, I expect a box plot in future. The post was good, but I want a box plot.

Outliers can be included in a box plot as that's what it's for.

Sure, it is the main purpose of box plot. However, sometimes outliers should be disabled, like the above box plots. Displaying outliers might make us harder to see differences between two groups or more. This is why I ussually provides two types of box plots: (1) Outliers displayed; (2) Outliers non-displayed.
Like this case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48057892

jackg

copper member

Activity: 2856

Merit: 3071

https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: Lauda on May 26, 2019, 12:21:55 PM

~snip~

So it's finally been noticed by someone who isn't me?

I have no issue with loyce but some of the data that users get merited for is completely useless
I'm highly merited at rank of 250 or something so I don't think limiting merits to those members trying to get some is particularly a good idea however unnecessary or useless infographics and data publishing are in my opinion something along the lines of merit farming so maybe there's an issue there...

@tran, I expect a box plot in future. The post was good, but I want a box plot.

Outliers can be included in a box plot as that's what it's for.

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 4085

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Box plots or figures, they are ways to present data. Did you mean this one? Each method has its own advantages and disadvantages, in my opinion. Box plots show overview on data, but tables with figures give more details, detailed numbers. Maybe this post is about me, maybe others. I actually made some posts about that, like in ChipMixer, but if DarkStar_ does not support such posts, I will stop doing this in ChipMixer campaign since this week.
Best,
Tran Thi Dzung

Quote from: tranthidung on November 14, 2018, 09:26:50 AM

Box plots
The part presents box plots of daily merit for full data, part of data before 19th Jan. 2018, and the rest part of data since 19th Jan. 2018.
The medians are the horizontal lines inside boxes.
With the visual plots, we can easily see the difference between the medians of after and before datasets.

In the above box plot, outliers are not shown.

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

A lot of people have started making a lot of useless data just for the sake of merit farming. The initial few threads were helpful, now it's just painfully obvious ("let's create every possible set of data that may be helpful is some extreme edge cases once per year, why not-mentality"). As much as I appreciate some of his tools and data (which I use relatively frequently), this includes LoyceV nowdays. Don't waste merit on those threads anymore.

jackg

copper member

Activity: 2856

Merit: 3071

https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

I have noticed recently a lot of people make references to means and interquartile ranges and then don't go on to make a blox plot about it. The least they could do is make a nice box and whisker diagram of the data they have in order to show the range in a much nicer way. There are times when it's really appropriate but for some reasons users don't do this, can we make it a rule?

An image says a thousand words after all... And two images next to each other say three thousand.

Topic: [new rule] stop people giving the mean and interquartile range without box plot (Read 228 times)