Topic: New sanctions against Russia. (Read 1238 times)

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 13, 2017, 09:17:22 PM

I would not believe anything western media says about this. Try al jazeera on Russia

Why should you believe the Al Jazeera? After all it is owned by the Qatari government, which is a part of the GCC alliance. Neither the Arabs, nor the Americans are very fond of Russia. For both the parties, Russia is a common enemy.

Al Jazeera is better, because the Western mainstream news channels (BBC News, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC.etc) are always biased and churn out fake news against Russia. The others such as Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya are far better.

How are they better? Probably you are using information from the Kremlin. Putin never liked independent journalism. I still remember how he destroyed the team of NTV. Someone doubt their training? But Russian is not protected, then freedom of speech and are now a part of this propaganda.

sure so the best you can do is look at a diverse range of sources

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 13, 2017, 12:47:33 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 13, 2017, 12:47:33 PM

I would not believe anything western media says about this. Try al jazeera on Russia

Why should you believe the Al Jazeera? After all it is owned by the Qatari government, which is a part of the GCC alliance. Neither the Arabs, nor the Americans are very fond of Russia. For both the parties, Russia is a common enemy.

Al Jazeera is better, because the Western mainstream news channels (BBC News, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC.etc) are always biased and churn out fake news against Russia. The others such as Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya are far better.

How are they better? Probably you are using information from the Kremlin. Putin never liked independent journalism. I still remember how he destroyed the team of NTV. Someone doubt their training? But Russian is not protected, then freedom of speech and are now a part of this propaganda.

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I would not believe anything western media says about this. Try al jazeera on Russia

Why should you believe the Al Jazeera? After all it is owned by the Qatari government, which is a part of the GCC alliance. Neither the Arabs, nor the Americans are very fond of Russia. For both the parties, Russia is a common enemy.

Al Jazeera is better, because the Western mainstream news channels (BBC News, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC.etc) are always biased and churn out fake news against Russia. The others such as Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya are far better.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

I would not believe anything western media says about this. Try al jazeera on Russia

Why should you believe the Al Jazeera? After all it is owned by the Qatari government, which is a part of the GCC alliance. Neither the Arabs, nor the Americans are very fond of Russia. For both the parties, Russia is a common enemy.

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I would not believe anything western media says about this. Try al jazeera on Russia

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This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

They just need someone to blame for their endgame being a failure and delaying whatever the master plan was for a bit, or just altering the logistics the US plays a far more broad role in election interference than other countries do.

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Quote from: Lancusters on June 12, 2017, 04:22:42 PM

I do not agree with you. what businessman Trump I don't know. Did anyone see his Declaration? Who knows, maybe he bankrupt? Putin is also not a businessman. It is a banal thief. His condition is not earned, but stolen from the Russian state.

It is the opinion of the Russian people, which matter the most. For them, Putin is a savior. He took office in 1999, when most of the national wealth was looted by the oligarchs under the drunkard pro-western dictator Boris Yeltsin. He put some of those oligarchs behind bars, while most of the others fled to Western nations such as the United Kingdom.

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That is it, pretty much as always Americans are the center of the world and hundreds of millions of non Americans are worthless, when the

Fucking senator says we should be happy when ISIS is attacking Tehran you all should take the hint what kind of people they are, idiots don't

Understand more sanctions=thicker skins. in a decade from now when the world moved into decentralization of currencies we'll see if US could

Still have the upper hand in financial sector, we'll see if they could have any power in the world of economy.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on June 12, 2017, 03:16:45 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:07:45 AM

Quote from: coolcoinz on June 12, 2017, 03:16:45 PM

That's really stupid. Sanctions have already strengthened Russia, and as Russia has been buying gold, the gold backed ruble is likely to become significant. They have also pushed Russia into bed with Chins, and as a result the IMF has lost its monopoly. Why do they want to strengthen Russia and weaken the US, and allover Obama and Clinton's lies.

When they announced the sanctions in 2014, the United States and its allies thought that Russia would fold up in less than 6 months. But they forgot that Boris Yeltsin is no longer ruling Russia. The current Russian president is Vladimir Putin, who has been elected as the most powerful person on the earth for three consecutive terms now. The sanctions have only resulted in strengthening the Russo-Chinese alliance.

Don't forget he's also one of the richest people on Earth.
Russians always had that need for expansion and pride. Putin is using that to his advantage and is doing very well for himself, as we all can see. He's a businessman like Trump and I thought those two will find find a way to talk using the universal language of money, but no, not yet at least.

I do not agree with you. what businessman Trump I don't know. Did anyone see his Declaration? Who knows, maybe he bankrupt? Putin is also not a businessman. It is a banal thief. His condition is not earned, but stolen from the Russian state.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:07:45 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:41:46 AM

That's really stupid. Sanctions have already strengthened Russia, and as Russia has been buying gold, the gold backed ruble is likely to become significant. They have also pushed Russia into bed with Chins, and as a result the IMF has lost its monopoly. Why do they want to strengthen Russia and weaken the US, and allover Obama and Clinton's lies.

When they announced the sanctions in 2014, the United States and its allies thought that Russia would fold up in less than 6 months. But they forgot that Boris Yeltsin is no longer ruling Russia. The current Russian president is Vladimir Putin, who has been elected as the most powerful person on the earth for three consecutive terms now. The sanctions have only resulted in strengthening the Russo-Chinese alliance.

Don't forget he's also one of the richest people on Earth.
Russians always had that need for expansion and pride. Putin is using that to his advantage and is doing very well for himself, as we all can see. He's a businessman like Trump and I thought those two will find find a way to talk using the universal language of money, but no, not yet at least.

You still need to understand that rich people make conclusions for themselves and always agree. And the problems will be for ordinary citizens and not for presidents. Any military conflicts, even commas, were laid by the military, from among ordinary people, and not from officials.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

You have me highly amused. What sanctions Russia could impose against the United States. Lol. Without Western technology the Russians can't create anything. They can certainly try to compensate for the expense of China, but if America and Europe start policy on return production home, very soon China will be on the same level as Russia.

In certain sectors, Russia is dependent on the American / Western technology. But you should also remember that on certain other sectors, the Americans are dependent on Russia. For example, without the Russian technology, the International Space Station (ISS) would have never got completed. And without the Russian rocket engines, the Americans won't be able to transport their astronauts to the ISS.

International Space Station is a joint project not because Americans can't manage it or need some tech from Russians but because it is easier to split cost and share tech.
Plus, it looks much cooler if we have effort of all humanity gathered in one place tohelp us conquer the space. Russians don't have anything crucial or impossible to replace.
Joining forces with Russians is more like Public Relation publicity stunt more than anything else.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:07:45 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:41:46 AM

That's really stupid. Sanctions have already strengthened Russia, and as Russia has been buying gold, the gold backed ruble is likely to become significant. They have also pushed Russia into bed with Chins, and as a result the IMF has lost its monopoly. Why do they want to strengthen Russia and weaken the US, and allover Obama and Clinton's lies.

When they announced the sanctions in 2014, the United States and its allies thought that Russia would fold up in less than 6 months. But they forgot that Boris Yeltsin is no longer ruling Russia. The current Russian president is Vladimir Putin, who has been elected as the most powerful person on the earth for three consecutive terms now. The sanctions have only resulted in strengthening the Russo-Chinese alliance.

Don't forget he's also one of the richest people on Earth.
Russians always had that need for expansion and pride. Putin is using that to his advantage and is doing very well for himself, as we all can see. He's a businessman like Trump and I thought those two will find find a way to talk using the universal language of money, but no, not yet at least.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

You have me highly amused. What sanctions Russia could impose against the United States. Lol. Without Western technology the Russians can't create anything. They can certainly try to compensate for the expense of China, but if America and Europe start policy on return production home, very soon China will be on the same level as Russia.

In certain sectors, Russia is dependent on the American / Western technology. But you should also remember that on certain other sectors, the Americans are dependent on Russia. For example, without the Russian technology, the International Space Station (ISS) would have never got completed. And without the Russian rocket engines, the Americans won't be able to transport their astronauts to the ISS.

Funny that we already have private european and us corporations that fly satellites and other stuff into outer space.

And russians use ukrainian rockets because russian ones tend to explode :S

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2017, 11:41:46 AM

Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

You have me highly amused. What sanctions Russia could impose against the United States. Lol. Without Western technology the Russians can't create anything. They can certainly try to compensate for the expense of China, but if America and Europe start policy on return production home, very soon China will be on the same level as Russia.

In certain sectors, Russia is dependent on the American / Western technology. But you should also remember that on certain other sectors, the Americans are dependent on Russia. For example, without the Russian technology, the International Space Station (ISS) would have never got completed. And without the Russian rocket engines, the Americans won't be able to transport their astronauts to the ISS.

This is not so. There is the European launch vehicles that are able to do it. The last time most Russian launches end in disaster. Russian technology lags behind the West in 25-30 years. After the Soviet collapse, Russia can not restore the capacity. Russia is no longer the first in space.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

You have me highly amused. What sanctions Russia could impose against the United States. Lol. Without Western technology the Russians can't create anything. They can certainly try to compensate for the expense of China, but if America and Europe start policy on return production home, very soon China will be on the same level as Russia.

In certain sectors, Russia is dependent on the American / Western technology. But you should also remember that on certain other sectors, the Americans are dependent on Russia. For example, without the Russian technology, the International Space Station (ISS) would have never got completed. And without the Russian rocket engines, the Americans won't be able to transport their astronauts to the ISS.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

You have me highly amused. What sanctions Russia could impose against the United States. Lol. Without Western technology the Russians can't create anything. They can certainly try to compensate for the expense of China, but if America and Europe start policy on return production home, very soon China will be on the same level as Russia.

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Quote from: Palmerson on June 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM

This week the U.S. Senate is expected to vote for sanctions against Russia because of the Kremlin's interference in the presidential elections of 2016. I wonder why no one cites specific evidence, but sanctions are imposed.

Am wondering with all the sanctions being imposed on Russia, I am wondering why isn't Russia also imposing sanctions on the USA as well, am sure it will be payback on them for doing things like this without proof.

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That's really stupid. Sanctions have already strengthened Russia, and as Russia has been buying gold, the gold backed ruble is likely to become significant. They have also pushed Russia into bed with Chins, and as a result the IMF has lost its monopoly. Why do they want to strengthen Russia and weaken the US, and allover Obama and Clinton's lies.

Soros and the Rothschilds are still winning.

Lol. Sanctions cannot make Russia stronger. Putin keeps stability until 2018. After the election there will be a strong collapse, but it will be later. As for buying gold then I find that a little hard to believe. I do not believe what the Russians say.

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