"New Sport": Ultimate Tennis Showdown

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Another turn is just over. There are some surprises...
D. Brown has won the first match!
Meanwhile Tsitsipas won against Berrettini, consolidated the first position of current ranking.
Benchetrit won both matches of weekend and he has get a new better position for the next round.
[We can expect just one player out for the next turn, since Dominic Thiem will play in another tournament. He has been removed from UTS current ranking... probably this can move interest of the players in lower/mid ranking since they don't need "to win" for the next turn Wink

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Stefanos Tsitsipas 6
Richard Gasquet 50
Matteo Berrettini 8
David Goffin 10
Elliot Benchetrit 208
Feliciano Lopez 56
Alexei Popyrin 103
Corentin Moutet 75
Benoit Paire 22
OUT Dustin Brown 239

Personally, I like this new format since there are some nice aspects respect the "classic" tennis.
It should be verified if other tournaments will be played, since players normally prefer get ATP points and not playing long unofficial tournaments like this...

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Quote from: babygun on July 01, 2020, 03:37:30 PM

Why should some sports changes their rules if they want restart during this pandemic? To which sports are you referring to?

I can only hope that these new tennisrules don't become the new standard... You can call me traditional but for me tennis shouldn't change anything.

Watching the sports without the audience still feels weird, and I sometimes don't enjoy watching it.

Sports shouldn't change their rules because of pandemy. But some adjustments may be needed to reduce risks of injuries, like we see in football 5 substitutions and cooling breaks.
I agree that there is no need to fix things which aren't broken and original tennis rules is good. While this tournament is just exhibition and attempt to try something new. I watched few matches and for me these new rules were a bit complicated. But it may good for people who don't havie patience to watch 3 hours length matches because in Ultimate Tennis games is very short.

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This is a new alternative to tennis, maybe the Ultimate Tennis Showdown was created because of this pandemic condition.
The format and rules are different from original tennis, it's no wonder it's called a new sport. At least this Ultimate Tennis
Showdown can be entertainment for those at home still in quarantine, even though I am not yet familiar with the format
and the rules. So i have to make more time to read the explanations in various articles on the internet, to better understand
the rules.

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Quote from: babygun on July 01, 2020, 03:37:30 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 23, 2020, 06:25:44 PM

So, this is how the new rules of the sport should be implemented when going to start it during this pandemic? Well, it is a good choice although there may be something new and also really different. Moreover, there's no audience. It should very influence the minds of the players. However, the game must go on and this is the only way they can do to continue the sport. I mean that other sports also need to do these, no audience, following the health protocol, and also having new rules in some cases if they want to open their sports again in this pandemic.

What I read on the twitter is also about pros and cons of the rules. However, whatever the conditions, it means that now some sports can still be done with a new format. We can have a good watch again during this pandemic, the live streaming of any kind of sports.

Why should some sports changes their rules if they want restart during this pandemic? To which sports are you referring to?

I can only hope that these new tennisrules don't become the new standard... You can call me traditional but for me tennis shouldn't change anything.

Watching the sports without the audience still feels weird, and I sometimes don't enjoy watching it.

no they wont do that because if you read the title again it says new sport so that means this was like a new sport or a new variation of the original tennis , no need to worry .

this sport with new rules can be refreshing and looks fun to some sport addicts but for me i also like the original tennis because that is what im more familiar with and i dont want to tire myself for learning new rules because im already busy on many things these days . i have no problem with audience too since its only tennis .

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 23, 2020, 06:25:44 PM

So, this is how the new rules of the sport should be implemented when going to start it during this pandemic? Well, it is a good choice although there may be something new and also really different. Moreover, there's no audience. It should very influence the minds of the players. However, the game must go on and this is the only way they can do to continue the sport. I mean that other sports also need to do these, no audience, following the health protocol, and also having new rules in some cases if they want to open their sports again in this pandemic.

What I read on the twitter is also about pros and cons of the rules. However, whatever the conditions, it means that now some sports can still be done with a new format. We can have a good watch again during this pandemic, the live streaming of any kind of sports.

Why should some sports changes their rules if they want restart during this pandemic? To which sports are you referring to?

I can only hope that these new tennisrules don't become the new standard... You can call me traditional but for me tennis shouldn't change anything.

Watching the sports without the audience still feels weird, and I sometimes don't enjoy watching it.

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A live update of the current ranking. Waiting for the next turn were 2 players will be dropped out !
According the current ranking there are few surprises after these turn played (player name - atp ranking)
Only Goffin and Paire seems doesn't like these game, probably they haven't already adapted their game style to these new rules.

Stefanos Tsitsipas 6
Matteo Berrettini 8
Richard Gasquet 50
Dominic Thiem 3
Feliciano Lopez 56
David Goffin 10
Alexei Popyrin 103
Corentin Moutet 75
Benoit Paire 22
OUT Elliot Benchetrit 208
OUT Dustin Brown 239

After N. Djokovic get tested positive for COVID19 it's pretty clear we need to wait probably more to see the classic tennis. Of course playing with no audience create a new atmosphere and it would be very nice for all us, see again overcrowded place with rumors and people screaming for a well played game.

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So, this is how the new rules of the sport should be implemented when going to start it during this pandemic? Well, it is a good choice although there may be something new and also really different. Moreover, there's no audience. It should very influence the minds of the players. However, the game must go on and this is the only way they can do to continue the sport. I mean that other sports also need to do these, no audience, following the health protocol, and also having new rules in some cases if they want to open their sports again in this pandemic.

What I read on the twitter is also about pros and cons of the rules. However, whatever the conditions, it means that now some sports can still be done with a new format. We can have a good watch again during this pandemic, the live streaming of any kind of sports.

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With the world number one Novak Djokovic having tested positive are we expected to be seeing anymore tennis or this will change how these games are played??

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/sports/tennis/novak-djokovic-coronavirus.html

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I didn't had chance to watch this tournament, but I'm going to try if I will find where to watch it. Maybe these who already watched can share their experience about the game?
Personally for me these new rules lookd a bit complicated. I know that they are trying something new, but I'm not sure that they need to try to invent bike.
Though, for person who never watched tennis, probably it's easier to explain what is blockchain than rules of tennis with all games, sets, tie-breaks and how points is counted Cheesy

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 21, 2020, 09:31:41 PM

Five hours grueling match for tennis is kinda boring, yes exciting, but most of the time, you really wanted to see the match concluded much early. And if my memory serves me right, there are fans who complain about matches going beyond the usual time, like finishes in 1 am.

For hardcore fans it's interesting, but for someone who randomly turned it on, 5 hours in front of TV watching tennis doesn't looks like exciting idea. Maybe unless it's final of Wimbledon or other Grand Slam. And for current young generation it's difficult to keep attention on one thing, they soon become bored, so with such tournaments they are probably looking how they can attract young fans to tennis.

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Half of the league format has been played, please find above ranking and last day of matches.
Actual ranking of the players seems "normalized", since 6/8 players will continue to the next stage.
It could be interesting see current ATP ranking and UTS actual ranking. The lowest ATP ranking player are "out of the games" at this moment, but we will see more in the next weeks of game.

Richard Gasquet   50
Stefanos Tsitsipas   6
Matteo Berrettini   8
David Goffin   10
Feliciano Lopez   56
Benoit Paire   22
Alexei Popyrin   103
Corentin Moutet 75
Dominic Thiem   3
OUT Elliot Benchetrit 208
OUT Dustin Brown 239

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Quote from: avikz on June 21, 2020, 10:24:41 AM

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This type of matches will lead also for a rule change also in "classic" tennis?

No! But more of such games will be played in future. Take a simple example of cricket. Earlier, we used to have only test match and one day match. Now once IPL started, people loved the short excitement and adrenaline rush within the 20 overs match and it quickly became popular.

Yeah, it won't change the rule per se, but it might be adopted in some small tournament perhaps like the ATP 250. Or other small matches, and it will make more exciting to watch and it will really suit more players specially the young generations of ATP's.

Quote from: avikz on June 21, 2020, 10:24:41 AM

Nowadays, test matches have become almost extinct but 20 over matches have become a new norm for cricket. Similar thing would happen in Tennis as well. Long matches will be pushed to extinction and short format matches will become a new norm!

Five hours grueling match for tennis is kinda boring, yes exciting, but most of the time, you really wanted to see the match concluded much early. And if my memory serves me right, there are fans who complain about matches going beyond the usual time, like finishes in 1 am.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on June 13, 2020, 02:25:28 AM

I think there will be new rules in other sports when they finally open just like what you presented here for tennis. So if we will see some modifications in other sports later on, it won't be a surprise anymore. At least, we have something to watch now live and not just replay of some sports events..Bit interesting to watch how those new rules will affect the performance of the players.

new rules can be confusing to existing players at first and that can affect thier gameplay . betting on them is risky tho . i wont bet on sports bet for now if i heard new rules are going to be applied but ill be waiting for sometime till the players fully adopt it .

i read that some rules arent really related on our current situation , i thought i will see a rule where players are reduced and maintain a good distance when playing . on other sports other rules are already implemented like using only a virtual audience .

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Quote from: avikz on June 21, 2020, 10:24:41 AM

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This type of matches will lead also for a rule change also in "classic" tennis?

No! But more of such games will be played in future. Take a simple example of cricket. Earlier, we used to have only test match and one day match. Now once IPL started, people loved the short excitement and adrenaline rush within the 20 overs match and it quickly became popular.

Nowadays, test matches have become almost extinct but 20 over matches have become a new norm for cricket. Similar thing would happen in Tennis as well. Long matches will be pushed to extinction and short format matches will become a new norm!

For cricket this format can work, but I hope for tennis this doesn't become the new norm. I am pro long tennis matches of 4-5h because often these matches are very good. Every year I visit Roland Garros (except this year Grin

) and I always hope to see long tennis matches if the play is good (which is often the case).

The same for Shootout in Snooker, a very short format to make it more popular but it simply doesn't work.

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This type of matches will lead also for a rule change also in "classic" tennis?

No! But more of such games will be played in future. Take a simple example of cricket. Earlier, we used to have only test match and one day match. Now once IPL started, people loved the short excitement and adrenaline rush within the 20 overs match and it quickly became popular.

Nowadays, test matches have become almost extinct but 20 over matches have become a new norm for cricket. Similar thing would happen in Tennis as well. Long matches will be pushed to extinction and short format matches will become a new norm!

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I am not a fan of this concept and almost all the rules seem stupid to me.
I can understand that you want to try out something new, but this is clearly not the right direction. There is also not a lot of animo for this concept as not many bookmakers offer bets on this tournament.

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yesterday's match I have seen less surprises but anyway it's confirmed an high level of interest for this tournament.
please find below results (20th Jun 2020) and actual ranking (Tsitsipas new leader!)

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 17, 2020, 12:42:19 PM

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I'm not sure though whether I would shell some play money on this new tourney or not. They may be the same great players in the court but there's definitely a lot of familirizing to do and it's hard to bet when the players are just adjusting to rule changes since they can't go all out.

I have seen a couple of surprises during the past matches. I think play some money can be at least funny Wink

As I have said I can't understand at this point if this is related to the new format or just lockdown "forced" stop for the players.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 17, 2020, 08:03:40 PM

The US Open has been announced and has already garnered controversy by saying they will not be featuring the wheel-chair section of the competition this year.

Well, UTS doesn't have spectators. Only live streaming. (so we will not ear anymore "quiet please")

Quote from: Ucy on June 18, 2020, 03:16:17 AM

10 players(different teams, multiple players in a team?) for thesame tennis game or just the typical one-on-one tennis game with the 10 players competing for different games?
How about the "sudden death" format, what does that mean? is it tennis term or something?

This is a tournament . No teams, but is a typical one-on-one tennis game.
They have a FAQ sections that could explain more and better then me Tongue

https://utslive.tv/faq/frequently-asked-questions/

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10 players(different teams, multiple players in a team?) for thesame tennis game or just the typical one-on-one tennis game with the 10 players competing for different games?
How about the "sudden death" format, what does that mean? is it tennis term or something?

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The US Open has been announced and has already garnered controversy by saying they will not be featuring the wheel-chair section of the competition this year.

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The 4th set for heavily-outscored player literally isn't necessary and may even force the losing player to do a lackluster performance just because. Anyway, the first few matches is quite nice as I have seen them on replay. It's just like watching regular tennis however with some extra bits such as a longer time and the serve mechanics. I immediately think of the basic tennis rules whenever one person is serving then I reize that it really is a part of the game.

I'm not sure though whether I would shell some play money on this new tourney or not. They may be the same great players in the court but there's definitely a lot of familirizing to do and it's hard to bet when the players are just adjusting to rule changes since they can't go all out.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on June 17, 2020, 07:20:39 AM

Hmm,,, so how did this tournament turn out? I saw this too late to see for myself but I am surprised if it did not get much more participation from this forum. I thought there were plenty of tennis freaks here.

@bitbollo do you know which crypto bookie here is offering odds on this? Trying to understand the format.

Hi @leea-1334
The only bookie offering odds for that type of match that I have found is nitrogensports
https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Tennis/Ultimate%20Tennis%20Showdown%20Exhibition

Nothing at this moment in Stake.com / CloudBet.com / Sportsbet.io

As classic bookmakers I have seen match listed on Unibet/Planetwin. But in my country (Italy) there is a monopole about betting game, this is why there are just few of them that list this type of competition

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Hmm,,, so how did this tournament turn out? I saw this too late to see for myself but I am surprised if it did not get much more participation from this forum. I thought there were plenty of tennis freaks here.

@bitbollo do you know which crypto bookie here is offering odds on this? Trying to understand the format.

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From what I've read about Ultimate Tennis Showdown directed by Patrick Mouratoglou. He intends to make a radical change in tennis and taking advantage of the Coronavirus crisis introduces this event with the round-robin format without groups. Where the players will face each other with the nine participants.

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We're going to approach the second week of game.

Here https://utslive.tv/ranking/ there is the current ranking. According to ATP and bookmakers odds there are a couple of surprises.
I don't know if this is another "COVID19 effect" likewise players were not able to get trainings in this period or it's just a matter related the set of rules introduce by UTS.

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I think there will be new rules in other sports when they finally open just like what you presented here for tennis. So if we will see some modifications in other sports later on, it won't be a surprise anymore. At least, we have something to watch now live and not just replay of some sports events..Bit interesting to watch how those new rules will affect the performance of the players.

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Today's Match (13th June 2020)

Pouille vs Benchetrit
Brown vs Paire
Goffin vs Berrettini
Lopez vs Popyrin
Tsitsipas vs Gasquet

I am very curios to watch these matches since time can be considered an unknown factor. I have seen a lot of players lose a match just because tired and stressed... fatigue is another aspect to be checked.
Let's see today what happens with the first day of tournament.

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Tomorrow Saturday 13th June we will see in Nice (France) a "new sport"! Ultimate Tennis Showdown
No audience, but live broadcasted, 10 players will compete for the first time.
Same field, but different rules:

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-Matches are played in 4 quarters of 10 minutes each
-Players serve twice alternatively. The player with the most points won at the end of the quarter wins the quarter.
-If the clock runs out in the middle of the point, the point continues on. If the quarter ends in a tie, a tiebreaker point will be played.
-If a player wins the first three sets, the fourth set is still played for set average purposes.
-If the players have tied with two sets apiece, the players go into sudden death.
-The player who’s total of points through the four quarters is higher gets to decide whether they’d like to serve/receive. Alternatively, the player can decide the side they’d like to play on.

This type of matches will lead also for a rule change also in "classic" tennis?

BTW Interesting format it's also a new way for betting since TIME will be a new standard for any decision.
https://twitter.com/UTShowdown/status/1271122526702317570

https://utslive.tv/

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