Great argument. The only problem is I provided lots of sources and plenty of logical arguments, none of which you bothered to even attempt to refute, instead opting to just call it "bullshit" and creating a false equivalency. I didn't say you were scared, I suggested that the same dismissive logic you applied to me is also equally able to be applied to you, that of fear mongering. I also never told you to "shut up and deal with you doing whatever". Also stripping you? What?
It is a FACT that "antivaxxers" are in the minority, in the literal sense they are small in numbers. I am very sorry of you can't manage to rub a couple brain cells together to come up with a coherent argument against the argument I presented instead once again opting for arrogant dismissal. What about illegal immigrants? Clearly they don't give a shit about our community if they are bringing disease in to the country and violating our laws. Why is it you are so fast to ignore them but focus on "antivaxxers" even though the numbers show they are a much larger source of disease outbreaks?
See you just want your poorly thought out arguments to only work for you while you totally dismiss solid logical arguments with sources I present as bullshit instead of even attempting to directly refute them. You seem hyper focused on the vaccine denial aspect of this when I in fact never once attempted to argue against vaccination, only compulsory vaccination. You aren't even addressing my premise, you are just creating a premise, attributing it to me, then expecting me to defend it as you repeatedly dismiss my actual premise. If you are as smart as you think you are why is it you can't engage me in an intellectually honest debate?
No, the problem is we are having a clash of ideologies, not a debate. Your own words are religion to you, and mine are the same to me. I'm not interested in your points about immigration, I brought that up a while ago so you wouldn't waste your time. I'd have to swim through countless hours of research to justify whether your sources are valid or not, what they actually mean, and whether it is worth communicating my thoughts on them. I'd be happy to do that if this was a thread about border security and influx of disease, but as I stated before, I know nothing about any of that. If that was the topic of the thread, I wouldn't have replied, as I have nothing to add to that conversation. I'm not dismissing your claim that immigrant carriers of diseases are of greater number than domestic unvaccinated citizens, because I don't know otherwise. You are not a minority group because of an individual belief on whether or not you should be vaccinated. Citing the 6th grade statistics definition of minority versus the anthropology definition of minority is dishonest.
I cannot engage you in a debate because I cannot understand your point of view. I really don't mean this as a personal attack, but to me, it sounds like you live in a self entitled fairy land, where you can do absolutely anything you want with no regard for others. I understand this is probably not the case, but from my perspective thats what your words mean. My absolute main point throughout the entire discussion which you keep trying to drag away from "County in New York bans unvaccinated from public spaces" to, "We aren't as bad as this other group!" is that you cannot force people to accept your life choices. You make a choice, other people have a reaction, you don't get to scream outrage because other people aren't as understanding of what you consider a good idea. If your point is that the threat is being overblown, sure you might be right! That doesn't change anything, your rights are not being taken from you until someone is holding you down and injecting you. People are just saying I don't want to live with you.
Everything you describe as false equivalencies and incoherent arguments makes absolute perfect sense to me, I'd assume in the same way your argument makes perfect sense to you, and absolutely no sense to me. You don't debate people who have different ideologies as you, because they aren't formed from misunderstanding but perception.
I'm not trying to take some philosophical high ground, I'm just stating that we are both wasting our time.
I do not think that people are physically able to take responsibility for the actions of their choice to not be vaccinated. That is why it is a problem at the social level rather than just a matter of individual responsibility. I have zero problem with unvaccinated people living the way they want, but just don't be surprised if your only neighbors are also unvaccinated neighbors, and when the question is asking 1,000 people to move elsewhere or asking 1, its not really a hard to answer. Set your own house on fire if you'd like, but the situation is different if you live in an apartment complex.
