NEW ZEALAND HAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED ALL ANIMALS AS SENTIENT BEINGS

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You will be healthy and live a longer life on fruit and veg..

Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/

Get cancer because of many many causes .most humans will get cancer no matter what they do.In my town it's every other person die's of cancer..every family member i know of since i have been born has died of all forms of cancer..In the 70s we had sheds made of asbestos in fact all sorts of things were made of this stuff..

Fruit and veg is really good for you ORGANIC

Your argument against a scientific study: asbestos sheds. Brilliant.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 08, 2016, 03:32:41 PM

But isn't it true that most vegetarians are fat?

Also, if being raised by dogs makes a child act like a dog, then wouldn't there be similar reasons when a child acts gay?

So who ever you bring up is going to be a dumb ass dick brain if this is the case..

Who said vegetarians are fat Huh

..Make sure you don't bring children up if what you say is true then your kids will be thick as shit..

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But isn't it true that most vegetarians are fat?

Also, if being raised by dogs makes a child act like a dog, then wouldn't there be similar reasons when a child acts gay?

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 08, 2016, 04:21:36 AM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 07, 2016, 09:39:43 PM

You will be healthy and live a longer life on fruit and veg..

Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/

Get cancer because of many many causes .most humans will get cancer no matter what they do.In my town it's every other person die's of cancer..every family member i know of since i have been born has died of all forms of cancer..In the 70s we had sheds made of asbestos in fact all sorts of things were made of this stuff..

Fruit and veg is really good for you ORGANIC

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Quote from: tvbcof on April 06, 2016, 11:16:51 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 05, 2016, 10:28:43 PM

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Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnecessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.
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Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..
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You should look around for another group of friends. Maybe being fucked in the head is more common with the younger generation. I have precious few friends in that age range so I don't know for sure, but it does seem like it might be the case from what I read on the net. Sad. Something does seem to have gone haywire. Food? Drugs? Education? Perhaps a combination there-of.

Your a thick shit pawn..You know nothing you only know what your told and how to do it..
Stupid pawn..Like how to polish those boots and stand to attention..Dumb shit pawn.

Classic. This is exactly what I'm talking about. WTF went wrong with you people?!?

We woke up..

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 07, 2016, 09:39:43 PM

You will be healthy and live a longer life on fruit and veg..

Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 07, 2016, 07:57:46 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 06, 2016, 11:16:51 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 05, 2016, 10:28:43 PM

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Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnecessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.
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Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..
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You should look around for another group of friends. Maybe being fucked in the head is more common with the younger generation. I have precious few friends in that age range so I don't know for sure, but it does seem like it might be the case from what I read on the net. Sad. Something does seem to have gone haywire. Food? Drugs? Education? Perhaps a combination there-of.

Your a thick shit pawn..You know nothing you only know what your told and how to do it..
Stupid pawn..Like how to polish those boots and stand to attention..Dumb shit pawn.

Classic. This is exactly what I'm talking about. WTF went wrong with you people?!?

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Quote from: Slowturtleinc on April 07, 2016, 08:24:54 PM

If I eat animal do I retain its soul or does it leave with the juices during cooking?
Fat dudes must be full of soul, if I eat one will I become a god?

You can eat meat and it's tasty but if you never had meat before and looked at animals as living beings with feelings then maybe you wont eat them ..You know no difference..
So what is wrong with this action..I love meat but if my parents brought me up this way then all good..

So when the kids of tomorrow get brought up like this in New Zealand they will grow up less likely to eat meat and have respect for all life..You will be healthy and live a longer life on fruit and veg..
even if people eat it less meat it's all good..Because we feel guilty might eat it once a month..

We will find out soon the affects..All New Zealander's will be skinny soon Cheesy

Big people New Zealander's

I mentioned Buddhism..Being one with everything..Stick some gecko tape on your mouth and you might learn something Grin

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If I eat animal do I retain its soul or does it leave with the juices during cooking?
Fat dudes must be full of soul, if I eat one will I become a god?

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“Free range” is a feel-good term. Businesses use it to create a generous reputation for themselves, and it makes us feel kind. But any large or small scale farming system harvesting eggs from hens is not letting them grow old in green pastures once their productivity levels drop, no matter how many nice words are on the box.

Male chicks are routinely killed in both conventional and free-range hatcheries because they do not lay eggs, and are therefore not profitable. “Debeaking”, a process in which hens have part of their beak sliced off with a hot blade is also standard practice; debeaking prevents hens from injuring one another in the overcrowded spaces they live in, but it also prevents them from performing healthy social behaviours such as preening, and sometimes eating. The process is, as you might imagine, painful....Read more about it

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/05/outraged-by-the-new-free-range-egg-definition-then-stop-eating-eggs

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Quote from: tvbcof on April 06, 2016, 11:16:51 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 05, 2016, 10:28:43 PM

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Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.
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And this is the point your not getting..YOU SAID THIS..Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.THIS STATEMENT IS A LIE..

Most humans love people suffering FACT..Go and tell a friend your doing really well and most will look at you with jealousy in there eyes ENVY.
Jews do well in life no one praises the Jews just hate..If you got something your neighbour wants it..

When your doing bad people say arr well he deserves it without finding out why he not doing to good

Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..

Look at the poor in the world ..we love boxing We love it when a human does something bad to them selves..
car racing waiting for a crash i could go on..So what you say is a lie..I REST MY CASE Grin

You should look around for another group of friends. Maybe being fucked in the head is more common with the younger generation. I have precious few friends in that age range so I don't know for sure, but it does seem like it might be the case from what I read on the net. Sad. Something does seem to have gone haywire. Food? Drugs? Education? Perhaps a combination there-of.

Your a thick shit pawn..You know nothing you only know what your told and how to do it..
Stupid pawn..Like how to polish those boots and stand to attention..Dumb shit pawn.

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This is a huge step forward in animal protection. More countries should do that.

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I agree that animals are sentient. Even ancient philosophers (Aristotle) said this. However, it doesn't mean animals don't differ from us, because the have no memory and will. They might be more determined than people

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 06, 2016, 05:18:32 PM

Animals feel pain love anger sad and happy..If animals have no feelings then why does this penguin keep returning back to see this guy..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8APNfmH00

Humans think were special and nothing can have emotions only humans..
Well your so wrong..And nothing to do with god no such thing as god man made it up..and no not a woman..women had not part in writing the bible..
But if your faith makes you happy then it's all good..Just don't preach to me thanks

I am sure it has nothing to do with the free food.

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on April 05, 2016, 10:28:43 PM

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Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.
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And this is the point your not getting..YOU SAID THIS..Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.THIS STATEMENT IS A LIE..

Most humans love people suffering FACT..Go and tell a friend your doing really well and most will look at you with jealousy in there eyes ENVY.
Jews do well in life no one praises the Jews just hate..If you got something your neighbour wants it..

When your doing bad people say arr well he deserves it without finding out why he not doing to good

Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..

Look at the poor in the world ..we love boxing We love it when a human does something bad to them selves..
car racing waiting for a crash i could go on..So what you say is a lie..I REST MY CASE Grin

You should look around for another group of friends. Maybe being fucked in the head is more common with the younger generation. I have precious few friends in that age range so I don't know for sure, but it does seem like it might be the case from what I read on the net. Sad. Something does seem to have gone haywire. Food? Drugs? Education? Perhaps a combination there-of.

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Yeah I can believe that Animals feel pain love anger sad and happy. At least the cats and dogs I´ve known.
Wouldn´t count anything out.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2016, 03:27:17 AM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 11:59:00 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on April 05, 2016, 11:07:20 PM

what are specific feelings we're talking here?
sad, happy, love, hate or specific feeling like embarrased, interesting or what?
please make it clear.

You spell embarrassed like this EMBARRASSED..yer I know the feeling Grin

How does an animal feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion
How does a human feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion

Will an animal feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will
will a human feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will

Also you need to be clear?

you say..Interesting do you mean interested..if you say interesting then i don't know what you mean..
if your saying interested then i would say how does life start without being interested..

Animals don't have emotions. Everything that appears to be an animal emotion, is simply a highly complex automatic reaction to some stimulus. God made animals like this so that people could have a certain kind of companionship with them. In addition, animal simulated emotions can help people understand what their emotions are supposed to be like.

Animals don't have emotions. They just look like it. But I would suggest that if we are going to outlaw treating animals differently than fellow humans, we should go all the way with it, and stop vaccinations so that we don't hurt microbes any more than necessary.

Animals feel pain love anger sad and happy..If animals have no feelings then why does this penguin keep returning back to see this guy..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8APNfmH00

Humans think were special and nothing can have emotions only humans..
Well your so wrong..And nothing to do with god no such thing as god man made it up..and no not a woman..women had not part in writing the bible..
But if your faith makes you happy then it's all good..Just don't preach to me thanks

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 11:59:00 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on April 05, 2016, 11:07:20 PM

what are specific feelings we're talking here?
sad, happy, love, hate or specific feeling like embarrased, interesting or what?
please make it clear.

You spell embarrassed like this EMBARRASSED..yer I know the feeling Grin

How does an animal feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion
How does a human feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion

Will an animal feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will
will a human feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will

Also you need to be clear?

you say..Interesting do you mean interested..if you say interesting then i don't know what you mean..
if your saying interested then i would say how does life start without being interested..

Animals don't have emotions. Everything that appears to be an animal emotion, is simply a highly complex automatic reaction to some stimulus. God made animals like this so that people could have a certain kind of companionship with them. In addition, animal simulated emotions can help people understand what their emotions are supposed to be like.

Animals don't have emotions. They just look like it. But I would suggest that if we are going to outlaw treating animals differently than fellow humans, we should go all the way with it, and stop vaccinations so that we don't hurt microbes any more than necessary.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 05, 2016, 11:07:20 PM

what are specific feelings we're talking here?
sad, happy, love, hate or specific feeling like embarrased, interesting or what?
please make it clear.

You spell embarrassed like this EMBARRASSED..yer I know the feeling Grin

How does an animal feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion
How does a human feel embarrassed in the wild. it wont feel this emotion

Will an animal feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will
will a human feel sad happy hate in the wild.. yes they will

Also you need to be clear?

you say..Interesting do you mean interested..if you say interesting then i don't know what you mean..
if your saying interested then i would say how does life start without being interested..

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what are specific feelings we're talking here?
sad, happy, love, hate or specific feeling like embarrased, interesting or what?
please make it clear.

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Quote from: tvbcof on April 05, 2016, 10:28:43 PM

Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 05:00:20 PM

Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

I heard somewhere along the line that Hormel took an interest in the amount of suffering that the animals underwent in the obviously awful process of being turned into food. For that reason I prefer Hormel products all else being equal.

Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.

http://www.hormelfoods.com/Newsroom/Press-Releases/2010/07/20100721

And this is the point your not getting..YOU SAID THIS..Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary.THIS STATEMENT IS A LIE..

Most humans love people suffering FACT..Go and tell a friend your doing really well and most will look at you with jealousy in there eyes ENVY.
Jews do well in life no one praises the Jews just hate..If you got something your neighbour wants it..

When your doing bad people say arr well he deserves it without finding out why he not doing to good

Most humans love people being hurt and being down in life Fact..

Look at the poor in the world ..we love boxing We love it when a human does something bad to them selves..
car racing waiting for a crash i could go on..So what you say is a lie..I REST MY CASE Grin

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Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 05:00:20 PM

Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

I heard somewhere along the line that Hormel took an interest in the amount of suffering that the animals underwent in the obviously awful process of being turned into food. For that reason I prefer Hormel products all else being equal.

Most humans really don't want to see animals or other humans suffer more than is necessary. I would guess that straight-up 'market forces' would be much more effective at reducing unnesessary suffering than a bunch of fruitcakes running around trying to enforce their own spiritual dogma on everyone else.

http://www.hormelfoods.com/Newsroom/Press-Releases/2010/07/20100721

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 05, 2016, 04:39:28 PM

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Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 11:59:40 AM

Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.

I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans.
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill.

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest. Maybe you're like an animal that way.

While it could have been said more eloquently, I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals. These kind of laws just utilize the rabid animal rights activist crowd to push the agenda for more control over dictating the freedoms of humans under the pretense of animal rights. We have already seen some extremely absurd environmental restrictions being used in the same way. Research Agenda 21. It is not a theory, it is fact. If people really cared about the environment and the welfare of animals they would be pushing to end nuclear energy, or at least upgrading the plants to newer models that can't melt down when the power goes out like in Fukushima. If you want to see real animal suffering just look at the Pacific ocean.

I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals.YOU SAY..

To treat animals in a humane way..To have feelings for animals to be disturbed by animal cruelty..
Your more less likely to not want to hurt anyone plus your more likely to have feelings for your fellow man..
Also if aliens are coming to earth is it right they treat us the same way we treat other creatures?
Also if aliens are watching us do you think it's a good idea to meet humans? to interact with us..
Also if there was a galactic law do you think where good enough to follow this law do you think were
ready?

Like in Spain the bull run or when the matador kills the bull with a sword..I am always wishing the bull wins..It makes me so happy when i see the bull stick it's horn's right up some one butt hole or right in the stomach..Serves them right 1 up for the bull Grin

One day might someone might invent a pill and we can get all our nutrients we need to fill us up..
It will help with space travel Grin

I AM JUST AS MAD AS THIS GUY..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxzWpy7PKg

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Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 05:00:20 PM

Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

Now this is an area where I actually agree with animal rights activists, and not just because it makes animals suffer. The vast majority of factory farming is totally inhumane and disgusting. It also puts people at risk of disease by forcing these animals to live in their own filth while pumping them full of antibiotics in order to prevent infection. This is basically a super bug factory. This should be solved by passing laws regulating factory farming, but we all know this will not happen because they have powerful lobbies and lots of money to throw at politicians.

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Wal-Mart Stores Inc said it was aiming to switch to a cage-free egg supply chain in the United States by 2025, joining a host of companies that have committed to stop using eggs laid by caged hens.

The United States' biggest food retailer said on Tuesday it would mandate its egg suppliers to be certified and compliant with United Egg Producers' animal husbandry guidelines or an equivalent standard. (bit.ly/1TAlbFR)

The decision comes at a time when the food industry is under pressure from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, Mercy for Animals and World Animal Protection, which have successfully lobbied many companies to adopt animal welfare practices.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 12:12:04 PM

Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 11:59:40 AM

Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.

I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans.
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill.

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest. Maybe you're like an animal that way.

While it could have been said more eloquently, I have to agree with this sentiment. By raising animals to the level of humans you automatically also lower humans to the level of animals. These kind of laws just utilize the rabid animal rights activist crowd to push the agenda for more control over dictating the freedoms of humans under the pretense of animal rights. We have already seen some extremely absurd environmental restrictions being used in the same way. Research Agenda 21. It is not a theory, it is fact. If people really cared about the environment and the welfare of animals they would be pushing to end nuclear energy, or at least upgrading the plants to newer models that can't melt down when the power goes out like in Fukushima. If you want to see real animal suffering just look at the Pacific ocean.

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Animals show emotions just some humans don't care..Human's are the worst creature of all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cymZq1VblU0

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 09:59:00 AM

Now arrest all the animals for walking around naked, using public streets as toilets, and murdering other animals.

you make me day . yees they are nakeed Cheesy

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 01:46:09 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 01:33:01 PM

SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs

No sane adult could ever believe that video. It was even uploaded on the 1st of April, which is the day when people upload ridiculous lies to the internet to see how many gullible people can be fooled.

You have serious problems, and any meaningful communication with you is beyond my abilities.

Why would I ever want to know you .
New zealand do something good and you come on here and talk all bollocks no sense..
so fuck off

Also the video is true seen it many years ago on our national tv

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Animal have no feelings Cheesy

not just dogs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ENOYbEoF8

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 01:33:01 PM

SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs

No sane adult could ever believe that video. It was even uploaded on the 1st of April, which is the day when people upload ridiculous lies to the internet to see how many gullible people can be fooled.

You have serious problems, and any meaningful communication with you is beyond my abilities.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 01:26:49 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 12:40:20 PM

You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry

Some won't. Some people live like savages, but some people know how to use apostrophes.

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take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..

Speak for yourself. You're obviously a vulgar and disturbed individual.

Animals don't even have feelings towards their own adult offspring.
So don't tell me they have the same feelings as humans.
Some humans love their children.
Of course, some people don't. Some people just come to bitcointalk and whine about how their son is gay, taking out that frustration with tantrums and girlish anger towards everyone who isn't just as confused about everything.

SHUT THE FUCK UP DICK HEAD
So what is that video showing you thick shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs

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Animals have feelings I know and i will now prove this a fact..

We all know human's take care of animals..If animals have no feelings then they would they care?

Watch this then Animals taking care of a human..100% proof Animals care and have emotions..
YOU MUST WATCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkX47t2QaRs

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Quote from: popcorn1 on April 05, 2016, 12:40:20 PM

You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry

Some won't. Some people live like savages, but some people know how to use apostrophes.

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take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..

Speak for yourself. You're obviously a vulgar and disturbed individual.

Animals don't even have feelings towards their own adult offspring.
So don't tell me they have the same feelings as humans.
Some humans love their children.
Of course, some people don't. Some people just come to bitcointalk and whine about how their son is gay, taking out that frustration with tantrums and girlish anger towards everyone who isn't just as confused about everything.

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positive and negative emotions? no, of course not.. they are only able to respond to stimuli and always let you know when they're hungry.

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"It is intended that generally accepted hunting, fishing, and pest management practices will not be affected by the new section, which is directed at acts of wilful or reckless cruelty"

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Here it is...Animal Welfare Amendment Bill...

Hon Nathan Guy

Animal Welfare Amendment Bill
Government Bill
107—3
As reported from the committee of the whole House

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2013/0107/latest/DLM5174807.html?path=bill%2fgovernment%2f2013%2f0107%2flatest&col=bill&fid=DLM5174807&search=sw_096be8ed81047b83_sentient_25_se&p=1

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Well, I guess they have a law defining who those sentient beings are. I doubt that it includes the common housefly.

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There are several problems with this.

1) The animal kingdom contains organisms with a smooth range of neurological capabilities. How and who are going to be deciding where the cut-off point is within the animal kingdom? If there even is a cut-off whereby dust mites are not afforded the rights of polar bears.

2) It is extraordinarily discriminatory against other kingdoms. Plants, fungi, protozoa, bacteria.

3) How to deal with the injustices and abuse of, say, a cat killing and eating a mouse? These kinds of abuses are rampant. Enforcement is going to provide a lot of 'green jobs' at least.

4) It's pure new-age weirdness. New Zealand: Glad to see that you have all of your more important problems solved. You go, girl!

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 12:12:04 PM

Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 11:59:40 AM

Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.

I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans.
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill.

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest. Maybe you're like an animal that way.

You dumb ass thick shit..Remorse you dumb shit..Human's will eat other human's when hungry
take the food away and we become nasty just the same as a wild animal..

we are what you call domesticated animals..My dog wont eat my turtle..In the wild it would chomp it up.

Well done NEW ZEALAND..I love a bacon sandwich but if my parents never brought me up on meat and made me think eating animals was sick today i would be a vegetarian..
It was natural to eat humans ..Now we think this is a sick thing to do..

If children are brought up to think eating animals is wrong they will become vegetarians
It's all down to the parents..feed them meat they will love it..Don't feed them meat they will know no difference..

Animals have feelings I know I got a turtle and a dog..
Also if it stops people from eating meat everyday then it;s all good 1 or 2 times a week eating meat instead of every day IT HELPS..

WELL DONE NEW ZEALAND..And thanks ..

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This thought on the matter got me to remember a movie that I watch just recently.
Absolutely Anything (2015) with Simon Pegg. His dog had the ability to tell his feelings to him half way though out the movie. It was a comedy but that is what New Zealand is talking about. Even without the ability to talk, they still have feelings to convey.
Hilarious movie with the old gang of Monty Python with John Cleese as the world destructor - Karen Cheesy

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Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 11:59:40 AM

Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.

I'll be a moron as soon as animals have the same feelings as humans.
Let me know when animals feel remorse for all the other animals they kill.

They don't, just like you and other fascists who want a permanent final solution to get rid of people "forever" if they inconvenience you in the slightest. Maybe you're like an animal that way.

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Moron on permanent ignore. Bye, bye forever.

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Quote from: galdur on April 05, 2016, 10:13:06 AM

Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 09:59:00 AM

Now arrest all the animals for walking around naked, using public streets as toilets, and murdering other animals.

Well, clearly you can´t distinguish the ability to 1. think (reason) from the ability to 2. feel (sentience), most likely because of limited ability as 1. is concerned.

So you're saying animals can't feel anything when they're cruelly murdered by other animals?

Please don't be so childish.

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Obviously complex animals have feelings and can experience positive and negative emotion. No rational person would deny that. But they also taste good.

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Quote from: BARR_Official on April 05, 2016, 09:59:00 AM

Now arrest all the animals for walking around naked, using public streets as toilets, and murdering other animals.

Well, clearly you can´t distinguish the ability to 1. think (reason) from the ability to 2. feel (sentience), most likely because of limited ability as 1. is concerned.

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Now arrest all the animals for walking around naked, using public streets as toilets, and murdering other animals.

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Quote from: West man on April 05, 2016, 09:43:54 AM

What does this say about the animals that they butcher to eat like pigs as pork, cows as beef, chickens as drum sticks Huh

They have feelings, so everybody in new zealand will become vegetarian? Cheesy

I have no idea, I don´t live there. They´re probably not outlawing butchering animals altogether, at this point it´s probably about strict regulations.

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What does this say about the animals that they butcher to eat like pigs as pork, cows as beef, chickens as drum sticks Huh

They have feelings, so everybody in new zealand will become vegetarian? Cheesy

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NEW ZEALAND HAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED ALL ANIMALS AS SENTIENT BEINGS – THIS IS HUGE

| March 11, 2016 |

New Zealand has set an incredible precedent by legally ruling on what nature lovers already know to be true: that animals are sentient and have feelings in the same way that we do.

This marks an incredibly shift in public perception, where previously only some animals were given the benefit of protection.

The Animal Welfare Bill that passed last month will prosecute people in animal cruelty cases and ban animal research and testing. All hunting and capture of wild animals will be illegal.

“To say that animals are sentient is to state explicitly that they can experience both positive and negative emotions, including pain and distress,” said Dr Virginia Williams, chair of the National Animal Ethics Advisory Committee. “The explicitness is what is new and marks another step along the animal welfare journey.”

“Expectations on animal welfare have been rapidly changing, and practices that were once commonplace for pets and farm stock are no longer acceptable or tolerated,” said Dr. Steve Merchant, president of the New Zealand Veterinary Association. “The bill brings legislation in line with our nation’s changing attitude on the status of animals in society.”

http://vbetweenthelines.com/index.php/2016/03/11/new-zealand-officially-recognized-animals-sentient-beings-huge/

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