Topic: Newbies are struggling to level up their account (Read 565 times)

It is very easy for new members to at least become member after the merit system. It just requires 10 merit points. Compared to that higher ranks require 100 merit points or more to move to new rank. That is quite a lot with the current number of merits being spent. I have seen a lot of new members achieving the member level after the merit system was introduced. One thing I suggest here is that if you are not able to get a single merit after 30-40 posts, you really need to analyse the reasons before posting more content here.

I am also a junior member but have got some merits for my posts. I am very much satisfied with m performance here as I am not that much active on this forum. You can also earn merits provided you are active here. By active I mean not only posting here frequently, reading the posts of other members (especially those of members who are getting lot of merits). You will get a lot of information regarding the forum rules and bitcoins in general. You can use that knowledge while making future replies. This will increase your chances of getting merits here.

Keep feeling like a newbie. At least it will keep you off the bounties and make you contribute something useful to the forum.


You should learn to read before posting.


Not every discussion is non-sense. The merit distribution may not be high in those places but the discussion on many threads are legit. Some shitposters will always clog them and make them unreadable. Higher merits are seen in "Technical Discussion" though that is not for everyone IMO.


You guys need to stop thinking about merit so much. It does not even matter who notices your post or to make your post stand out. What is more important is the contribution to the forum and your involvement in helping others. Dont chase merits and stop refreshing your merit stats page every 2 minutes to check who merited you. It wont change at least for now.

Every account now a little bit hard to level up, because new system (merit) is important things to us for level up. As we know merit system will make every people to post be better (good post). Not spam, negative comment etc. So we have new challenge to make our post to be better and usefully for everyone and get merit. I believe this things can reduce for some of people not seriously make post / comments. I hope when we learn to make a better post, it will help us to have a positive thinking and improve ourself.

Why struggle? Maybe because newbies are thinking of earning instead of learning first. Try to proceed first to the normal process of leveling up and try to forget the merit system. While you are in forum, reading and posting you will be at ease of this process in the long run and before you knew it, you already have merit. Bottom line here is learn first and try to contribute to the forum the best possible way can. One way is to stop complaining.

Patience is a virtue, Don't give up, Let's accept the challenge, Every new members aims to rank up smoothly, but we need to undergo some twist and waves to gather merits to level up our position, this is good idea wherein we need to establish a productive and substantial thoughts in the forum. The new set of policy is a good initiative to mold us to become a better individual, Hopefully everyone will took the challenge fairly:)  Not only the Newbies are struggling but members, full members and senior members are struggling  too:)

You are absolutely right, but still, not only newbies are struggling to get their accounts up even Jr member rank and above should work hard to empower not only their accounts but their knowledge as well, and as you said no one started as a legendy, they've surely took things slowly and held a longer breath for a greater harvest, alongside the merit system recently brought more barriers to the rank up so it is now harder and even unfair, everyone needs to work more and strengthen the quality of their posts to increase their level.

Not all newbies should struggle their way to rank up. I mean, for shitposters that don't really contribute to the forum and spamming a good thread resulting for an informative and helpful post to get buried, they should struggle. But for some newbies, who's not lazy to research first and knows what he/she is talking about before posting, they should not worry about ranking up because they will get appreciated eventually by forum members who will see his/her post quality.

That is the true purpose of merit. To show how much do we really know about bitcoin and crypto. If we are knowledgeable enough, we can participate better and soon somebody will notice us and will give us merit. It is better to stack up on knowledge and not just on rank.

Struggling is good. It means noobs are exerting efforts and efforts may lead to quality.
Though it's a buthurt for them seeing early users not to suffer the merit system to reach their current ranks, they should think that high ranks could be banned anytime if misused. With freezed account ranks, mods are continuously cleaning the forum. If you, noobs, started clean then you don't have to worry about anything.

The world develops and sometimes when demands are high, expectation on quality is needed to cope up with the development.

Now, only the official path of publishing high-quality posts can be upgraded. This is also an improvement to themselves. Although the upgrade is difficult, the gains will not be small.

With the merit system it is struggle to us to rank up so easily it will take year. And it will challenge to us to develop our writing skill in get more merit.  For the new member will start posting you need to realized and understand quality post.

Nice to see a new member speaking in favor of merit system. Completely agree with you that one has to improve hi knowledge and writing skills to increase chances of getting merit. Moreover, there are various other ways as well. For instance, one can participate in giveaways offered by different senior members. Also, there are some members offering merits for unique posts like infographics. Memmbers with such skills can make good use of that opportunity.

Newbies are  struggling to level up thier account that is true and that is normal to all new beginners, we need to know first and understand what really a bitcoin is, posting  is very important ,so know the rules first not just post n post without  knowing, its useless. If you really want to get in bitcoin, there are a lot of factors to considered, determination, perseverance, willingness and patience, you need to deal this different attitudes to level up your account.

Yes you're right, mostly newcomers or newbie must learned first about the forum rules before they rank up in the next step.
They should know everything here in forum and explore different sections not only section that flood on shit poster like Bitcoin discussion, economics and trading discussion those are mostly post nonsense to the sewer. That's good enough time to explore while hunting smerit to have in order to be rank up and motivated to have a good quality post.

Newbies, newcomers should gradually and naturally rank up their positions over time. It's better for them. They should learn, experience first. No need to rank up too fastly in the forum.

I also give you link to my another post discussed about which components forms good topics that can get merits:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31232565
Please visit there for reading more ideas of other users on the topics (not only mine)

If you only want to read my ideas, there you go:
Topics are larger than threads/ posts, but they have common components to make good ones.

That's absolutely right, I'm a Jr. Member now. But still I feel like I'm a newbie. I believe I'm a regular member but I haven't got any merit yet. I'm not sure where I stand about this merit system. I hope things go well for me. Best wishes for myself. 

Learn from experience it will upgrade your skill. We must learn step by step from basic it will better, because actually if you learn from beginning, your skill more powerful. I'm not recommend if we buy copper. It will not improve your skill and you not get nothing. Every things is not instantly will stay strong.

Merit is playing its own role in the ground although it needs to be improved, there were valid points coming from the members.

If you analyse past one months members activity then it is really clear that lots of improvements we are seeing. When you trust a group of people and allow them to make decision for you then you have to accept what they decide despite it's right or wrong. We human always get biased when it comes to make a decision.

This current system would be a better one if we could make better decision on giving sMerit to someone, although the current merit system needs some twist to improve in my opinion. Some members are really misusing the merits.

I keep opening these threads thinking I will see something different to give merit to.. guess what? the pharmacist keeps getting merit off me.

good post but I want to learn something before the rankings..

You are welcome . I just want to let the account holders of this forum not to cheat and just take the easy path to climb be at the top. Everything takes time especially if it is worth working for.

Yes because "elderly" meritable people here have following attributes
1. Read the rules of the forum
2. Know about crypto and know how to initiate meaningful discussions and not simply shitpost
3. Would not spam the forum with a ring of alt accounts made simply for the purpose of farming and grabbing bounties.

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Stop complaining about the merit system its been almost less than a month now that it has been implemented and still shitposting noobs dont get the idea. Gone are the days when you could spam the forum and become "Member" in a short span of time. Get a life and get a job.

A copper membership allows for a bigger signature than Jr. Member, with links. See etherflip as an example.

Now there is a very bad phenomenon, with the implementation of the new system, many bounties have also raised the demand, novice is not accepted, most only accept high-level members. Does the author just need the elderly do not need new people to help promote it?

And the purpose of this topic is to?
I will use this good advice in my investment decisions. Thank you very much op. This is what i came to this forum for.

Copper membership doesn't benefit anyone if they are already a jr member, which doesn't need merit.
But yeah, gotta grind for the merit my man. Every day is a grind just tryin' to feed the wife and kids with that with merit. Ya feel? The old kids on the block never had to hussle this hard.

Fella - hit the English books, watch some movies in English and then come back in 6 months. If that isn't good enough for you then tough titties..

If that's the problem, not hard to accept on my side. Thanks lurd The pharmacist.

Your post was a broken English load of horse shit.  Of course he misunderstood it.

Haha. Thanks for your critics but seems like you didn't understand my post. Did you?

Was this post of mine not easy to understand?you speak as if you understand all the content of my post.
Before you said that word I already knew about it that is why I said "after all"

What is this assumption based on ? Your personal experience. You have posted only 4 posts till now (at the time of this post being written). There are members adding a lot of quality posts and still not complaining. If you check the merit stats page carefully, your assumption will vanish.

Hi mate here's my word,
"Why should I struggle for merit if I am a good poster and these detective merit sources is on duty doing their responsibility?"
If after all my good participation gain nothing from this forum, is this be my reason to struggle?  My answer is "no"
But I will assume that the merit sources is lacking to execute their duty, and maybe one of the reason is spammers are already built their empire in this forum, the great barrier to stop the vision of the good team. 

Awesome, another one-line shitposter to add to my ignore list, and who will never receive a single merit point from me.

OP's post, while fairly long, expresses one of those super-positive sentiments that I see so often in bitcoin discussion and economics--sections on bitcointalk that are basically breeding grounds for idiots trying to rank up and taking the easiest route to do it.  "Bitcoin can change our lives, it is a decentralized cryptocurrency and if we take time to educate ourselves and follow the rules.....blah^3".  It's the same words, just reassembled in a different configuration in order to get paid or rank up.  But my point is that it's a thought that's so fucking tired.  It's not that OP's language is terrible, because it's not.

Newbies should be struggling.  It should not be easy to rank up here, because we've all seen what happens when it is easy.  Good posts get buried in a mountain of shitposts, and the really talented posters get fed up and leave--and what we end up with are a bunch of people who can't write in English trying to write enough characters in English in order to satisfy minimums in order to get paid/rank up/farm accounts/whatever.  It becomes a total catastrophe.  That's why this merit thing exists. 

Noobs bitching about the merit system to me is like listening to Beethoven.  Their cries of unfairness lighten my mood and uplift my soul.  It's been so long in coming.

strongly agree with you, with us buying a ready-made account that may be with a fairly good level, does not make the account that you buy, is a pride of its own.
it's better that we start from the beginning and we feel how we explore each level we receive and remember there is a special pride for this, and we also have to familiarize and find out anything.
happy join for beginners keep your spirit level up.

If all of them possesses these factors or attitude i.e eagerness,perseverance and the willingness to help themselves to get what theyre want to achieve,then ranking up is not that really hard.

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Make a qualitiy post,do not chase for merit let the merit chase you. 

If you want to post images you might as well buy copper as a newbie/jr. member. It is not expensive and should help BCT with hosting costs.

I think without struggling for newbie it's gonna be stagnant the rank and cannot be increased to up rank as soon as possible  .....

The newbies, especially the ones who wanted to increase their rank are struggling with the limitations that some are spending money to buy copper.
Patience and perseverance is the key to increase your level. Every achievement that comes from hard work is sweeter than those things you had easy. It is so fulfilling that you started from the bottom and you are slowly going up to the top. No person can become adult immediately  no matter how much they want it because there are certain things we learn while we grow up and priceless experiences. We must learn to take things slowly, limitations are made because it gives us lessons that everything does not come unlimited.