Are we gonna evict or are we gonna evict ... Spoet?
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Some knows a wallet that still work for Bytecoin BCN ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/some-knows-a-wallet-that-still-work-for-bytecoin-bcn-1810520
ByeBye Bytecoin
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AEON
hey XMR crew your toy is broken and being delisted.
Topic: [NEWS] Crypto-Eviction Notice ! (Read 1423 times)
The real world does work like this though. A currencies value, excluding the total amount of the currency, is based mainly on it's use. If everyone stopped using USD, for example, it would be worthless.
Indeed. The only reason why crypto can live on a overblown market cap as compared to its usage value, is "greater fool theory", and there's still a whole world of greater fools potentially to be taken. It will only come down, once the last layer of greater fools start to realize that they were the greatest fools, and that there aren't any left. But that can still be many, many years away. Or it could be next year.
Without these people BTC and all altcoins would be worthless. They are what brings volume and your idea is pretty damn stupid.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
No, without this, bitcoin would have its currency value, given by Fisher's formula. We both agree that this would be ridiculously small as compared to the actual market cap. If a *currency* is used (you know, to buy and sell goods), there is a demand for it, and an average hold time, between the moment where you obtain the money when you sell stuff of value, and the moment where you spend it to obtain stuff of value. This demand gives rise to the normal price of a currency. That should normally be bitcoin's price.
All the rest is greater-fool. And, as we can see, this aspect of it is HUGE.
All true, and accurate. BUT, as I have said the real world does not work like that and it never will. I have seen this same discussion play out a dozen times and nothing is going to change.
Maybe we should stop wasting our time debating idealistic fantasies
The real world does work like this though. A currencies value, excluding the total amount of the currency, is based mainly on it's use. If everyone stopped using USD, for example, it would be worthless.
Without these people BTC and all altcoins would be worthless. They are what brings volume and your idea is pretty damn stupid.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
No, without this, bitcoin would have its currency value, given by Fisher's formula. We both agree that this would be ridiculously small as compared to the actual market cap. If a *currency* is used (you know, to buy and sell goods), there is a demand for it, and an average hold time, between the moment where you obtain the money when you sell stuff of value, and the moment where you spend it to obtain stuff of value. This demand gives rise to the normal price of a currency. That should normally be bitcoin's price.
All the rest is greater-fool. And, as we can see, this aspect of it is HUGE.
All true, and accurate. BUT, as I have said the real world does not work like that and it never will. I have seen this same discussion play out a dozen times and nothing is going to change.
Maybe we should stop wasting our time debating idealistic fantasies
All the rest is greater-fool. And, as we can see, this aspect of it is HUGE.
finally someone knows their stuff
Without these people BTC and all altcoins would be worthless. They are what brings volume and your idea is pretty damn stupid.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
No, without this, bitcoin would have its currency value, given by Fisher's formula. We both agree that this would be ridiculously small as compared to the actual market cap. If a *currency* is used (you know, to buy and sell goods), there is a demand for it, and an average hold time, between the moment where you obtain the money when you sell stuff of value, and the moment where you spend it to obtain stuff of value. This demand gives rise to the normal price of a currency. That should normally be bitcoin's price.
All the rest is greater-fool. And, as we can see, this aspect of it is HUGE.
@database
odd that you mention that.
but yeah 90% of BTC value is based in trade-ing of ALTs.
odd that you mention that.
but yeah 90% of BTC value is based in trade-ing of ALTs.
I'm not a big fan of folks treating it simply as a stock but I do realize the importance of this to the overall economy of BTC. It follows the same pattern of any company where their main worth is the price of those stocks.
@database
odd that you mention that.
but yeah 90% of BTC value is based in trade-ing of ALTs.
odd that you mention that.
but yeah 90% of BTC value is based in trade-ing of ALTs.
Without these people BTC and all altcoins would be worthless. They are what brings volume and your idea is pretty damn stupid.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
Very akin to removing all altcoins. Would be the death of BTC completely. There are very few major businesses that use BTC, Dell being the biggest I know, and no real reason to buy them for financial usage.
Without that volume it is nothing.
How is crypto going to succeed if too few are even trying ?
In niche applications where fiat cannot go.
I agree, we, are, too few.
When I think of all the average people, making less than even $5/day, crypto is here and accessible.
When I think of all the average people, making less than even $5/day, crypto is here and accessible.
Huh, that's about the price of a bitcon transaction now these days.
Unless you came to crypto and are doing something meaningful you should leave.
Crypto coins are not about "profits".
They are about a digital currency and hopefully them being used as intended.
Crypto coins are not about "profits".
They are about a digital currency and hopefully them being used as intended.
I agree with you, only: crypto currencies (at least, the block chain based crypto currencies we know of today) start from an axiom, which is decentralized and trustless. Nice as this may seem, it brings a huge burden over centralized and trusted payment systems (fiat). This is like driving a tank, instead of a small and lean city car. The tank will resist enemy fire, and it will be able to run over non-paved roads, it will be able to get through barriers and other types of limits ; maybe even through a mine field.
However, to go shopping, to go and take the kids to school, to go on a holiday, to go to work, .... using a tank is a HUGE BURDEN. It is extremely expensive to use, to keep running, to repair, it is clumsy, .... Yes, you are very safe in a tank. Yes, you will protect your kids against a terrorist attack (or an outright war) when you go and get them at school. But by far, the small city car is way, way, way more practical, because it doesn't waste resources, energy and all that on mitigating a problem that is not the principal difficulty.
So tanks are not competitive with city cars. Unless we are in a situation where the tanks' use and safety is of paramount importance.
And that's the problem of crypto and "mainstream", and "adoption". It is simply not competitive with fiat in all those cases where fiat can be used, because fiat doesn't have the burden of having to be decentralized and trustless.
But there are a few niche applications where crypto is useful. Like there are situations where tanks are useful. But don't expect most people to drive with tanks. They will use city cars. It is a better use of resources, more performing and all that.
When you can do it with a city car, don't use a tank. When you can do it with fiat, don't use crypto.
So what remains ? Niche activities, and greater fool games. Because that's what crypto, in its block chain form of decentralized and trustless at a high cost, can only be about.
I agree, we, are, too few.
When I think of all the average people, making less than even $5/day, crypto is here and accessible.
O-h! Honestly some goat herder in Ethiopia can handle the costs of a mem-stick, a cell phone, and keeping a mostly up-to-date chain. There are fair # of chains under $10K, think of the flip in life style for anyone, and I mean anyone ... paying attention!
Now include the 2nd world, forgotten class, they have access to banks of computers, trust me PC cafes are easy to locate world round, plus many have fundamental programing understandings.
Sorry. But Fck! BTC, ETH, DASH. Beyond this classes reach. But a few dollars invested gains sizable hands in 100s of solid networks.
Farm that out to their LOCAL area, friends and neighbors and village elders, and suddenly goat herders have access to a greater financial system, in an instant!
It is already happening. But the high-end coins are too distracting. Still STEEM has already been hijacked by subsistence banana farmers. That's a major clue.
You teenage assholes in the first-world blew all your stacks on strippers.
When I think of all the average people, making less than even $5/day, crypto is here and accessible.
O-h! Honestly some goat herder in Ethiopia can handle the costs of a mem-stick, a cell phone, and keeping a mostly up-to-date chain. There are fair # of chains under $10K, think of the flip in life style for anyone, and I mean anyone ... paying attention!
Now include the 2nd world, forgotten class, they have access to banks of computers, trust me PC cafes are easy to locate world round, plus many have fundamental programing understandings.
Sorry. But Fck! BTC, ETH, DASH. Beyond this classes reach. But a few dollars invested gains sizable hands in 100s of solid networks.
Farm that out to their LOCAL area, friends and neighbors and village elders, and suddenly goat herders have access to a greater financial system, in an instant!
It is already happening. But the high-end coins are too distracting. Still STEEM has already been hijacked by subsistence banana farmers. That's a major clue.
You teenage assholes in the first-world blew all your stacks on strippers.
Believe it or not Spoetnik I have been lurking this site since late 2013, and you have been saying the same crap just about the entire time, posting almost every day it looks like, and honestly I think you are going fucking insane. Seek help.
For the record I actually agree with most of your posts! It is bullshit that all of these ICO's and cult of personality groups have taken over crypto, and that people chase greater fool prospects rather than looking at actual tech. But your attitude towards all this is a clear sign of an unhealthy obsession, and all you are doing is hurting yourself mentally. The only thing you could really accomplish is warning newbies to how greedy and scammy this place has become. But guess what? They won't listen if you antagonize them as "kidiot investards"
My point is you are missing more screws than the ikea desk I ordered over the summer. Get off this forum and go the fuck outside or you are going to end up like this https://imgur.com/gallery/91sn32Q
Of course you will undoubtedly write me off as just another idiot and continue yelling at clouds.
You know what? forget I ever said anything at all, as you were
For the record I actually agree with most of your posts! It is bullshit that all of these ICO's and cult of personality groups have taken over crypto, and that people chase greater fool prospects rather than looking at actual tech. But your attitude towards all this is a clear sign of an unhealthy obsession, and all you are doing is hurting yourself mentally. The only thing you could really accomplish is warning newbies to how greedy and scammy this place has become. But guess what? They won't listen if you antagonize them as "kidiot investards"
My point is you are missing more screws than the ikea desk I ordered over the summer. Get off this forum and go the fuck outside or you are going to end up like this https://imgur.com/gallery/91sn32Q
Of course you will undoubtedly write me off as just another idiot and continue yelling at clouds.
You know what? forget I ever said anything at all, as you were
Way back we had believers.
I think a lot of old users lost faith long ago.
Things changed overall to a more corrupt greedy selfish environment.
I was just looking at the Wikipedia page for Prime Coin (by accident)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primecoin
At the bottom is more links to related topics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Internet_banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_currency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunningham_chain
I hope the blind sheep users in our crypto scene around the world would open their eyes.
And the first step is realizing that short term trading for quick cash is not a good path to follow.
How is crypto going to succeed if too few are even trying ?
I think a lot of old users lost faith long ago.
Things changed overall to a more corrupt greedy selfish environment.
I was just looking at the Wikipedia page for Prime Coin (by accident)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primecoin
At the bottom is more links to related topics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Internet_banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_currency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunningham_chain
I hope the blind sheep users in our crypto scene around the world would open their eyes.
And the first step is realizing that short term trading for quick cash is not a good path to follow.
How is crypto going to succeed if too few are even trying ?
Some suggestions
DASH, too big to kill
RUBY
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rubycoin/ $6,131,660 and 6 users. See the node count. See the address count. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163834.200 11 pages!! That grants $600k evaluation per page.
ButtConnect
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/
$10M overnight! What is it? I see an Exchange just for BCC. So the Swiss, EDR, and Dubai con. Dash did similiar faking it over on Yobit. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbcc-bitconnect-coin-decentralized-cryptocurrency-1681719
DASH, too big to kill
RUBY
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rubycoin/ $6,131,660 and 6 users. See the node count. See the address count. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163834.200 11 pages!! That grants $600k evaluation per page.
ButtConnect
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/
$10M overnight! What is it? I see an Exchange just for BCC. So the Swiss, EDR, and Dubai con. Dash did similiar faking it over on Yobit. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbcc-bitconnect-coin-decentralized-cryptocurrency-1681719
Fool, LIcoin can kill Dash and every other TurdCoin in in Cryptoworld.
if you got your wish you'd have no one left to read your rants
I swear to god you are all trolling me.. playing dumb or something.Of course I'm trolling you, what the fuck do you honestly expect? You can't fight human nature, if there is an opportunity for greed people will take and that is not going change any time soon, so better to just accept it and move on. Do you expect people to leave just because you say so? All you are doing is whining, your constant diatribes really accomplish nothing, and you can do nothing. Just move on before you give yourself an ulcer obsessing over this.
I have accepted it and "moved on".
But i am within my right to gloat and say i told you so and make you all look like complete assholes.
Do you have any fucking idea how many people posted your comment here BEFORE you ?
(you probably do because i bet you said it to me before with another account here)
Do i expect people to change ? NO.
I am requesting they do because it's in their own best interest.
I am leading by example and showing you all ..there is more !
What you (The majority in control) are all effectively doing is taking the easy and stupid way out for chump change ..quickly.
Because if you did the right thing and waited you would GET far more.
See how there is a message and a reoccurring theme here kidiot investards ?
I am teaching you lippy little morons how to make LARGE money.. not beating off to chump change like idiots.
Lieks omg derpty fuckkin' derp i madez teh 2 BTC"s on Pscal coinz pump i aam's big trader winnarzx n0w !!111one
No.. your an idiot.
We don't need to ban anything either.
We can simply point and laugh at the loser idiots.. who *think* they are smart.
A key part of it all is a lack of intelligence.
I am not saying that because i am trying to be mean.
90% of you don't know how to trade.. you show up here like morons and then ask how do i get rich with Altcoins ? ..pump
And i am not even kidding that is one of the obligatory idiot noob topics that gets posted here (like many others)
You don't know how to trade.
Most of you have an empty toolkit as you wander around playing Repair-Man.
It *IS* possible to make money from legit coins.. i know i made 12k out of thin air doing it to prove a point.
And unlike all of you i didn't show up here by withdrawing money from a real bank and sending it to a crypto site to make ROI'z.
A good trader can rubber 2 pennies together and build a fortune.
It will require time, persistence and skill.. but it CAN be done.. by almost anyone !
You all don't do that because you are losers.
You have no patience and you have no skill.
Derpty derp i gotz here n0w so... where mah pump at bruh ?
Did i mention yet YOU the majority are fucking idiots ?
I hope that sinks in..
I hope you see how much of a pathetic douche you are all being and effectively acting like whale food in a rigged game where YOU KNOW you will lose eventually if you keep playing.
I am taunting you inept Investards and laughing at you and pointing out how i am better than you.
YOU ARE WHINING about it ..not me. scroll up for a quoted example
Right now i could make more than most of you morons with both my hands tied behind my back.
And i am not smart nor i am i rich nor do i have any previous trading experience.
I have COMMON SENSE.
You see i would do it buy "investing" as you idiots call it in things that are LEGIT.
And i would *STILL* make more than you foolish profiteers.
Lets have a contest shall we ?
Lets all start with 0 cents and lets see who makes more..
You the scam coin lovin' ICO supporters or me.
I'd fuckin' PWN your stupid retard noob ass's.
And.. i'd get to do it with a smug cocky elitist attitude oozing with integrity.
..something you losers can't buy with BTC.
Whining ?
Get triggered more bitches.. top shelf bitch.. PREMIUM TOP SHELF LOSERS !
If all you hear is a whining rant then you need to work on your English comprehension skills.
Because there is a reoccurring theme here that apparently warrants repeating non stop for years on end.
Let me guess.. you missed it because of my "tone" ?
Yup it's hard to read because i am using "Sans Angry" Font.
Bottom Line:
The majority in control *CAN* be converted or Booted out.
If we legit users can 51% attack the douche bags we can turn this ship around and get on track and make real money and have real support and real accomplishments.
Some suggestions
DASH, too big to kill
RUBY
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rubycoin/ $6,131,660 and 6 users. See the node count. See the address count. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163834.200 11 pages!! That grants $600k evaluation per page.
ButtConnect
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/
$10M overnight! What is it? I see an Exchange just for BCC. So the Swiss, EDR, and Dubai con. Dash did similiar faking it over on Yobit. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbcc-bitconnect-coin-decentralized-cryptocurrency-1681719
DASH, too big to kill
RUBY
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rubycoin/ $6,131,660 and 6 users. See the node count. See the address count. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163834.200 11 pages!! That grants $600k evaluation per page.
ButtConnect
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/
$10M overnight! What is it? I see an Exchange just for BCC. So the Swiss, EDR, and Dubai con. Dash did similiar faking it over on Yobit. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbcc-bitconnect-coin-decentralized-cryptocurrency-1681719
Who's on the hit list?
if you got your wish you'd have no one left to read your rants
I swear to god you are all trolling me.. playing dumb or something.Of course I'm trolling you, what the fuck do you honestly expect? You can't fight human nature, if there is an opportunity for greed people will take and that is not going change any time soon, so better to just accept it and move on. Do you expect people to leave just because you say so? All you are doing is whining, your constant diatribes really accomplish nothing, and you can do nothing. Just move on before you give yourself an ulcer obsessing over this.
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