Topic: NFTonSPIN.com - Leading Crypto Casino With Get Full Refund If Not Satisfied (Read 874 times)

In our case you are likely to get referral bonus 80% of the time. If you don't please reach out to us we will be able to provide you feedback on what can be improved on our side or your side.

So "luck" is also attached to the referral program, I guessed I missed it the first time.

For all the referrals activity I have took part in the past and some I still do currently, None of them have ever used luck based system to pay their customers every payment should be made once the referral passes the criteria what the person does after that is none of the referrer's business except if he still receives some commisions for their deposits or purchases. I'm just saying this because if I was in a similar situation where after referring 100 users I'll get paid for just 2 of them just because luck was not on my side.

Hi Cantsay,

Our backend is by default able to identify where is the user coming from so link can be the same. It depends on the referrer website.
So we can identify email or social media.

After referral your friend do not need to make any deposit or play. They just need to make a successful registration.
As long as your referred player is genuine and not a spam our system will give you a reward.

We use very advance Artificial Intelligence behind the scene to check if the user's details are genuine and are not created for temporary spam.
We are able to check if the user is long time internet user.

However because it is AI it can have some accuracy issue we are able to tell if player is genuine 80% of the time.
Rest of the 20% of time player may be genuine but our system cannot identify that.
This is why you need to be lucky and genuine.
Meaning lucky enough to be falling under 80% of these players we can identify to be genuine.

Hope that answers your questions.

visit:
https://nftonspin.com
https://nftonspin.org

They might have paid the bonuses but has anyone tried their "refund" policy? Or is that really more like promotion campaign then a policy?

I would like to see a report from someone with an account with actual credibility in bitcointalk. As you have just buy member accounts to say what you want. At the moment i need every penny i got and i am certain if i tested it, there would be some hoops i wasn't prepared for, like bet size limits etc, and either it would take a month to get my money back or i would end up messing their rules to be eligible because they were too vague

The refund policy is basically like a joke for me, the main criteria to be considered as unsatisfied players are those who played less than 10 bets after deposit.
The other rules are just about duplicate account and deposit confirmation, so basically if this refund offer does really works then players can try to deposit then make 5-9 bets.
If players won then they can withdraw, but if they lose in their 5-9 bets then they can ask for refund 
Perhaps they are the only one that offer refund to attract players but the rules sound too good to be true or even a big joke.

It's the right thing to do in this case, even that i was also suspecting this new casino for its promotions and features that seems very unreasonable and unreal for a profit casino that meant to make money from gamblers not the opposite.
The refund feature for clients or gamblers that didn't like the experience on the casino can make the casino go bankrupt in short time if they really refund their unsatisfied clients as they claim.
With all these claims we all question about there is no proof against the casino (NFTonSPIN) yet. I will also keep an eye on this matter.

        -   You know, I'm just paying attention to you, you promoted casino gambling here on the forum and yet what you did in the promotional thread section here on this platform is not good, it's not presentable actually, then you haven't followed the advice to apply for copper members so you can post good images there in your casino.

Then you say "Your provide highest rewards than entire market" if your casino promotion is not presentable here, how can we believe you here in the community of this forum, with all due respect to you.

I checked about this new offer and the one took my attention is the words "Join me and get $25 credit on registration if lucky and genuine". What does this "if lucky" means? Is the reward for this referral program is a random thing, so even if we can refer some people then there is no guarantee to get the reward. On the opposite site, it looks too good to be true if we get $20-25 for every referral who sign up using our link without any other requirement.

I had to revisit your site because of your new thread, and it really is a nice update since the last time I went there but I do have a question.

Concerning the referral program where I'm able to earn some money if I successfully refer some people to you website and they create an account there, I saw that I will be able to earn $20 if I refer through email, $25 if I refer through Facebook, $25 through twitter and the rest social media platform, but how is that possible when I'm using the same referral link for every platform? Is there a way to track where referrals are coming from and if that is true, if there is can't I just use Facebook referrals link on my Gmail and earn $25 instead of the $20? I need clarification on this question.

Another question, after the referral is there any criteria? Like if the person has to make certain deposit, he must have to wager at least this, this or this... Or do we get the bonus as soon as they register their account?

Thank you for sharing your feedback, as well as addressing the concerns of many individuals interested in starting with a small deposit.
We have carefully considered the pricing for our AI module and have decided to cover the cost ourselves.
As a result, we are pleased to announce a reduction in the withdrawal fees from 0.001 BTC to 0.000075 BTC, which translates to approximately $2 going forward.

We genuinely appreciate any additional feedback from anyone.

Every casino has an anti-fraud system to detect the abusers. Those casinos also give several bonuses to the users, and they have a dedicated team to handle the issues. If other casinos are able to bear these costs from their profit, then why NFTonSPIN.com charging a higher withdrawal fee? Aren't you making profit from the games of your casino?

Dear Mahdirakib,

We have raised this issue with McAfee. It seems to be a false positive case with them.
You can still access our site with this url on laptop https://nftonspin.net/

About our fees of withdrawal. On each withdrawal event we run our artificial intelligence module to figure out if there was a spam in user activity or user data.
As you can tell typically users play thousands of rounds and we need to crunch significant data to identify between genuine user and fraudulent user. 
This modules require expensive GPU based infrastructure to run hence we have this fees.

As you know we provide highest rewards than entire market and we want to continue to do so. Hence we have this very advance AI based module which utilises transformer based neural networks.
This fees are to protect the genuine player only.



Thank you

Didn't expect such positive solution from the NFTonSpin team. Thanks for clarifying the whole situation. The user (elley2kk) is guilty, still you have refunded his deposit. He made a deposit to his new account from his previous account withdrawal address.

Anyway, I got a negative impression about NFTonSPIN as McAfee is giving a warning message and preventing me to access the site on my laptop. Then I accessed NFTonSPIN from my phone and created an account. The withdrawal fee is 0.001 BTC on your casino. Why the withdrawal fee is so high?

As a person who left you a temporary feedback till you responded, it's my obligation to keep track of this case. What I have observed is that the accuser just decided to lock up the scam accusation thread he had opened up. Furthermore, he has deleted most of the posts he has made in this thread instead of responding to the new developments which means there are some things he could have falsely stated

For that matter, I am removing my negative feedback. I can't help someone who can't even bring up genuine claim.

We would like to address the recent situation regarding a player's withdrawal process and account violation. We attempted to contact the player regarding their withdrawal request; however, it was brought to our attention that they had created their account using a disposable email address. This action is in direct violation of our terms and conditions(https://nftonspin.com/terms-of-service [Section: YOUR ACCOUNT]).

Also, our AI system identified that this is the player's duplicate account and we have processed successful withdrawal for their original account. You can find the successful withdrawal here: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/3d3cecea79bc5faeaf7aad32b7f128081a19dd69e66af3fc3697128111e6b695


Despite this violation, we were able to establish communication with the player and successfully process refund of deposited amount. For reference, you can find the transaction ID at the following link: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/4316eb3950d52883ec93ed7d7a897ecb692c589f359f243111b01835abbfa602.

Nevertheless, due to the player's violation of our terms and conditions, we have deemed it necessary to block their account. We understand that this decision may be disappointing, and we apologize for any inconvenience caused.

If the player has any questions or requires further clarification regarding the account violation or any other matter, we encourage them to reach out to our support team. Our dedicated support staff will be more than happy to assist them.


Thank you for your understanding in this matter, and we appreciate your cooperation throughout the withdrawal process. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to let us know. We value your participation on our platform and hope to continue providing you with a positive experience.

Please find attached T&C Screenshot:
https://ibb.co/VV9z3yG

Why people rush to use new casinos? It's obvious, because of bonuses and offers that they make for deposits or new registrations. Most gamblers love getting bonuses for their deposits because it increases their chances of getting more wins since if you deposit $100 and the casino is providing a 300% bonus, you get to gamble with $400 which is 3x higher from what you've deposited.

Though such bonuses come with very high wagering requirements, people still sign up and make deposits at new casinos to avail these bonuses because they want to try their luck in trying to win something and try and complete the wagering requirements for the bonus and get a withdrawal hopefully.

I cannot understand why people rush to use new casinos without at least waiting some time to see if the casino intends to stay in operation for the long term or not, there are certain signs that are extremely important that people need to take care of attention to these new casinos and without a doubt I am talking about problems with withdrawals, any report of this type other people need to stop using this casino immediately, I do not know in your case if it will be possible to solve it or not but I still advise you to create a thead in this section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

you have to post all the conversations you had with the support, photo of your account in which it shows the balance, history of withdrawals and deposits and games, this will be of great help in the understanding of the members to determine who is right or not, the OP of this thread so far only made 4 posts but today it was online so it's a start, that means you have to run and create a thread in that section I gave you the link, it may be that the OP is important to his reputation and will answer you in that section and be able to solve your problem. but next time avoid using new casinos, most of them are very dangerous

My point is basically the same as yours about "community pressure" or I would say it is a "tricky strategy/action" from the casino so they paid you because you share it here to show that they are "paying". On the other side, 3 years without single post but then come back here to post for a new unknown site with many "too good to be true offers" is something suspicious although you also said that you chose not to make a deposit in this casino. I have the right to think like this and express it. Take it easy as it is something normal in any forum.

Really ? you will refund players money if they are not satisfied ? but you cannot even purchase a Copper membership here and forum and cannot even Hired a ANN Thread creator?

actually the right term on that bold sentence ? is that " THIS LYING IS NOT PROVIDED ANYWHERE IN GAMBLING "  because the way you manage your thread here and your account shows that you mean nothing but lying in chance to gather depositor that will believe on that Refund money thing .

It's already paid, try to read for knowing the update discussion.

Community pressure, other reason who know right ?

But, I got your points. They also not discussion on here, good things you are getting paid from "freebies" most of casino sometime need or asking a user to deposit and play with real money to be qualified withdraw a money from free stuff.
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Let's move on guys, respect each person opinion. At least, @skenthal have basic due diligence and that's important for choosing casino.

It might sound absurd but since the money has been earned through a no-deposit bonus and the withdrawal is a free one, it is reasonable if they take their time to process it, though it could be better if they do it more quickly but I wouldn't blame them for this, the thing is whether the withdrawal will actually get through or not.

If the withdrawal doesn't get processed, then the intentions of the casino will surely be questioned if why they provided such a bonus if they were not willing to process the withdrawals if a user managed to make some money through it.

no, still that might be true if i didnt write my personal opinion about it as well in several messages later, which was this:

"tbh, i decided to write in here after 4 days of waiting thinking that they might process it due to community pressure in here, and actually they processed it in 1 hour after writing in here and writing them through email, i m not sure, it would be processed if i didnt do something like this and if amount was higher, but in the end they paid it.

But imo i wouldnt deposit any real money coz, like many others said, offers are way too good to be true, and still site seems very amateurish (layout, games etc)

But again like i said, they PAID it..."


again its funny that people blame me vouching for it even though i said "ok they paid me, but i wouldnt deposit any money if there wasnt any free offer", WHY? simply coz they dont follow the discussion precisely

It’s normal reaction because this casino offers too good to be true while you are vouching for them that they are really paying their bonus without any problem using only free money.

Your account reputation for being inactive here for many that suddenly became active just to post that vouch will surely create many doubt. I think you know exactly how it looks like if you change your perspective to our side. I won’t blame you for doing that vouch if you really achieved it but the doubt of user here will always be there due to this casino shady introduction. Don’t take it personally if I were you.

are u guys joking? in the next message i wrote that even though it paid me and i wouldnt deposit any money to that site and how amateur it looks , lol these guys posting replies without reading whole thread at all just to increase their post number or to complete their tasks in promotion campaigns...

I don’t see any harm on the proof that Skenhtal show us since he provide proper evidence to support his claim. His account is also involved on gambling activities before he became inactive last 2020. The chance of him being connected to the casino is very low since this is what he normally doing when he is active.

Also he mention that he just get the money using free cash. There’s no damage will be done on his comment since he didn’t mention that he deposit. Perhaps he is still browsing here without his account login and become interested to try the casino due to the insane bonus.

Still this casino is full of bullshit with that kind of bonus offered even if someone manage to withdraw using free money.

In today's world of dazzling sales pitches and discounts that make your eyes pop, it pays to have a little bit of doubt. Remember, however, that not all that glitters is gold. To get an advantage in the market, businesses create these alluring deals, but they may not last very long. Knowing your T's and C's and getting into the weeds when it comes to refund policies is essential. These promotional offers typically have an expiration date or contain conditions. Therefore, even if a "too good to miss" offer catches your eye, constantly check to be sure you aren't skipping any cunning subtleties that could make a sweet deal bad.

i agree with you and i don't really trust the post made by Skenhtal because he just back from 3 years offline to share a proof withdrawal from this site that offers a crazy cashback of up to 900%.
maybe only a fool will take that cashback promo and then get scammed by them.

I agree with your point, it seems very suspicious that a user who posted after 3 years has taken the step of depositing money into the site and successfully withdrawn the money back to his wallet. This can be done just to grab the attention of the newbie gamblers who want to get 900% cashback and refund even if they lose.

The site looks like a scam to me because no casino would offer such services if they have to survive for a long time. The service is like traditional Ponzi schemes where a few users will get refunds and cashback and the majority of users will lose everything they put on the site. I recommend everyone to be careful from such sites, the chance of scamming is so high for such sites.

Even though it is real that this casino pay him as proven in the last screenshot, but it does not mean that this casino is reliable enough. Perhaps they paid it because the player share the experience here and they think that by processing the withdrawal will make them look legit. I do not want to think negatively about the above player, but his last post before this experience was around 3 years ago. Did he come back to active just to share his experience in this new unknown casino?

i just register using a fake email in order to try the no-deposit bonus skenthal said but sadly i lose all the balance and the games they have is too bad because we can't change the bet amount as we want but we must choose the amount.
even the coin flip the amount to bet is fixed at 3600 sats, and the crazy thing on that website is they have 3 option on coin flip as i know on another website that has a coin flip the outcome is only 2 heads/tails

People already nowadays are already that smart on which if they do saw something which is really that good to be true then it would really be just normal that we would really be that skeptical which it is really just a normal approach. Everything is something not that usual which it would be that obviously that this is really that part of marketing or promotion on which they do give out a refund which i have said that this is really  that something unusual or too good to be true which it is really just normal that people would be having this kind of feeling or insight.

No business would really be having this kind of set-up which it would really be that sustainable.It would be better that they should really be giving out some dates about on when it would really be just that lasting
if ever they would be having plans on making out some alterations, if not then people cant really just avoid on having  those doubts which it would really be that normal.

Oh wow so they really paid someone. Let's wait someone brave enough to try this casino and if the offers they advertised is really true. For me, I won't take the risk because I don't really play on new casinos. Hopefully this casino holds their words until they revised their advertisement about the refund. I know that the refund promotion is just to attract customer to try the casino but yeah it's a new way to make gamblers try a casino that's why gamblers are still skeptical about it. Maybe someday this kind of advertisement will become a norm.

Congratulations for you wins and the successful withdrawal, and as you said it’s will be a very bad idea if you put your real money into this casino for many obvious reasons.
I believe that they proceeded your request so you share your experience or make you think they actually are legit and make you deposit money. Everything tell us that this is casino very suspicious that has unrealistic features to hunt victims so i hope everyone stays safe.

tbh, i decided to write in here after 4 days of waiting thinking that they might process it due to community pressure in here, and actually they processed it in 1 hour after writing in here and writing them through email, i m not sure, it would be processed if i didnt do something like this and if amount was higher, but in the end they paid it.

But imo i wouldnt deposit any real money coz, like many others said, offers are way too good to be true, and still site seems very amateurish (layout, games etc)

But again like i said, they PAID it...

No casino can be comfortably used without instant withdrawals. now let's say I need some money emergency right now but I don't have any money anywhere other than this site so if they take 6 days to complete the withdrawal then what would happen to me at that moment? this will in no way increase the reputation of this casino site. Gamblers on the other hand are not interested in gambling here. this is a completely bad idea

don't forget that they even put a 0.001 withdrawal fee if you want to make a withdrawal and it can take up to 6 days which is really long time.
i believe that they will not approve every withdrawal that they have and i don't know how they calculate the wager from the no-deposit bonus?

Very disappointing for the fact that the amount requested is small amount only. And waiting that long time span before we can get our withdrawals  is not a good sight to see, so for sure there are other more got disappointed on how this casino take action on solving issues on their clients. But since the issue has. been executed and withdrawal request is done already maybe they give an assurance that the same like scenario will never happen again.

i emailed them as well by the time i wrote in here , and this is the email i got, and yeah my withdrawal processed

This is absurd mate. How can a casino be taking up to four days as I see from the picture upload the withdrawal was made on the 20th of may and still pending and I am made to understand from your post as well that it takes the casino 7days to process your payment. This is very dissappointing. It would not take them much time to sweet sugar coat members to make deposit for games but to withdraw will take processes and procedures so as to delay and find fault to penalize clients to stop their withdrawal.
This is not funny though but anyways you have said it yourself. We await your response in respect to the withdrawal.

i didnt deposit any money so i didnt take any offer, they were just giving 20$ no deposit bonus for signing up , and about the withdrawal process , its written here

wow, you managed to complete 40x wager requirements, and btw which offers did you take? the 300% or 500%? i just check their TOS and i don't see that withdrawal can take up to a week to get approved

i managed to complete turnover requirements and made withdrawal request 4 days ago, since i m free user it writes that withdrawal can take up to a week (dont ask why, i know its stupid rule as well  ). I will write if its processed by that time or not.

Maybe the casino via @OP can change the cashback so that it looks realistic and won't cause doubts from people to try it.

And we also don't have to try to play gambling at the casino. I also didn't continue to try it because, after yesterday's incident, I felt lazy to continue. Hopefully, there's news from @OP about the casino so we can find out if there are any updates or if the casino has nothing planned other than just introducing itself. But I doubt it

Welcome to the forum but your announcement thread is not impressive so there will be players who want to try to check directly on your casino what is offered to them, so you have to fix it, you can employ an ANN Thread designer so that it will look more interesting and impressive for those who see it.
And this is the first time I've seen a casino that has a return policy if the player is dissatisfied, and on your gambling site it doesn't mention what dissatisfaction criteria will get a refund, so that means players can abuse this if the player loses and uses reasons of dissatisfaction. satisfaction so the money will come back, hopefully, this is not just a marketing strategy to get players but the reality is that no player will ever be able to get a refund, besides the cashback return policy of up to 900% it also doesn't make sense, this should be explained further so that no player gets stuck with all the nice taglines but turns out to be just a trick

It is very unprofessional to have exhibited such attitude towards potential customers. OP ignored to respond to questions and inquiries for s not send any good message of the casino here. If at this early stage they could do such that means wen the casino starts to function funds will be lost. It is very dissappointing to have such an experience from them and I will advise everyone to stay clear off that casino till they are ready to get things straight by presenting themselves here to answer questions being asked them here. Until then, they would likely get any patronization.

OP was online hours ago and I believe he read at least some of the replies here but he ignores it as what he did in his other threads.
He created 4 threads so far but he did not even made other post in his own threads to give answer or update for his own project.
I will not expect to see him replying to all the questions and feedback, as I believe he is ignoring it or perhaps he does not know how to answer all the valid questions and feedback.

900% cashback offer does not seems to be realistic approach and therefore i would never trust a casino who is offering this huge bonus.

Also i see the that OP is active today but not bothering to reply on this thread and addressing the queries of people. If he has no intention of replying and clearing people doubts, rest assured that he is very unlikely to get any gamblers playing at his site.

I'm not serious; I just wanted to see how @OP could handle it. And since I saw that @OP hadn't come back to date, I thought maybe he was trying to hit and run, hoping to get a lot of members out of this forum.

The 900% cashback offer was the first I came across and it made no sense because we could have been betting long at that amount. But we also don't know what the withdrawal will be. If there are many requirements, I don't think it's good for us.

Correct. It is a preventive measure so that our email does not get a lot of spam emails. And it looks like @OP has no intention of coming back. Maybe he was so busy preparing for things that he forgot to return to his thread.

What does this even mean? Your terms of service doesn't cover this so it could mean anything. I can camble $1000 and ask my money back if i want? And you will pay (for some weird reason). How long can i play? A month and decide it's not for me, give my money back. You haven't explained this at all. Right now that sounds very much like scammy nonsense.

For those who want assurance, better wait for him to reply on vital questions.
But for those who can't wait, try small deposits first so you won't be screwed big time.
Their features are quite too-good-to-be-true. So there may be loopholes on this that we haven't seen yet.
The full refund feature if you're not satisfied is somehow intriguing already. Can they really keep up with their word on this aspect?

If it's true, only those who believe and signed up early are lucky because they can reap all the benefits until the site closes down later on when more people discovered it. Early gamblers deserved it because they took the risk. This ann thread was posted today. The OP disappeared maybe because he is only taking a rest for a while but let's wait for him to come back and read what his response about the questions being thrown at him.

It's cool if there is also a 20 USD sign up bonus. I remember Trustdice (one of the trusted casino in crypto community) also have 30 dollar bonus but as usual, these bonuses can't be withdrawn instantly. You will still need to wager them before the balance reflect in your account.

As we all can see OP cannot keep up this is not a developer or admin who can answer all the issues being thrown, this is not the kind of developer who is serious about promoting his platform here because of what he claims and what the features are, the features are not only to good to be true but questionable.

The community will not just accept OP's claim he has to back it up and explain the business model of offering a refund if the player is not satisfied, no gamblers will be satisfied when they lose and they will likely get a refund.

This seems to good to be true. It is advisable to be careful with this site. Everything just doesn't feel real. Even the live (online) player count seems to be static, lol . The offers are very rewarding, but again, it is sketchy, so proceed with caution.
I don't know how the OP can defend their site about these concerns, or if (s)he is even interested to our feedbacks.

Even Bitcoin doubler scams do not offer that much money. Usually, doublers offer Double your money in a week or so. But they are offering you 900% Cashback. What the fuck? I am wondering if anyone checked their website by depositing anything (Note: I am not suggesting anyone make a deposit). No doubt that the website is a scam. But, in case OP wants to prove that his service is not a scam, I am interested to see his response regarding the questions raised by the community.

if you want to register maybe use a dummy email account just in case they will collect your email and sell it online.
i think this website is just like other scam websites because the offers 900% cashback + full refunds in 3 days if not satisfied and the OP still not answering any question on this thread.

Email address of this casino is available on the bottom part part of their website. This is the official email of the casino [email protected] but you can verify it by yourself.

But Seriously, Are you really gonna try a casino like this that offers 900% cashback? This is an insane offer because you will just need to lose all your deposit to get x9 of you original deposit as cashback. I don’t know what’s the definition of cashback this casino is using but this offer is insane when read by normal gamblers here.

I tried to register but did not notice that the email verification is only valid for 5 minutes and I was late clicking the link. And when I clicked, the time was end and I needed to contact the support system via email. But I did not see any email address show.



So how if any members have the same experience as me? How do they contact the support system? I suggested he add an agent support system like the other casinos so if members have a problem, they can help and fix it.

@OP did not come back to his thread or ANN. How can we contact him?

Even if they decide to hire the best ANN thread creator to make it look good, it wont change the fact about their suspicious offers to players. The refund policy is stated under their terms page as quoted below:

So basically the main indication to be considered as unsatisfied is as stated in the 2nd point (less than 10 bets). Too many traps in this casino if people do not explore this casino deeper. Hope no one will be fooled with the suspicious offers such as the refund, huge cashback, and VIP program (holding $100 to get 10FS daily).

Yes, I agree with you guys what you are suggesting is very important for the OP to apply to the JST thread he created.
However, he created an ANN thread to promote it, so it must be as interesting and detailed as possible so that gamblers have a special interest in registering and playing there.
If the OP only created this kind of thread I'm not sure the site he's promoting could interest gamblers.
Plus one more thing as suggested by several other users, namely OP must use a copper membership if you want to do a promotion by creating an ANN thread on this bitcointalk forum.

Guys, it has been 3 days since OP has responded to any of the replies on this forum, so that shows that he is not serious about this. The 900% cashback is sketchy, so I would be very cautious going forward, until someone has verified this. 

Any casino has a house edge to make some profit and it must be very low (1% to 3% to be competitive) ...so it will be very interesting to know how this casino are making a profit, if they give back money that are wagered at their casino. 

Welcome to the community,

If you want to promote your casino and you are a gambling casino seems like buying a copper membership is just a basic thing to you and part of your marketing strategy to show more informative images and content to get attract other players. Its 2023 people caught with visuals and tired read tons of text.


You can check it here.

1.Make a good announcement thread.
2.A casino with a refund policy? You have invented the best thing since bread. I'm sure that all the gamblers in the world will join your casino and start betting(and asking for refunds when they lose).  What do you mean by "if player is not satisfied"? What makes a gambler unsatisfied? Losing money or the slots games having bad design?
3.The NFT trend is almost dead. Why do you have to bother with NFTs?
4.Perhaps you could change the name of your casino and website to something catchy. nftonspin sounds weird to me.
Anyway, good luck with this project, OP.

The ANN thread needs to improve a lot. OP have you checked other gambling site’s announcement thread? They are very much professional in the way of presenting and this proves that how much serious they are to put a good impression on us Bitcointalk people. Nevertheless I was really attracted towards the Tag line of the casino. I want to understand how is it exactly works? How do you issue a refund and how do you decide whether a user is satisfied or not? Some information in the OP is really needed to understand the actual process. Hope you will add the necessary info in the OP soon.

Received 6000+ satoshi after registering, thanks. and I don't know how much the deposit if I want to use the AutoPlay Functionality slot? And, OP must be active very well to answer the query, and better to buy Cooper Member as a suggestion. So, how much minimum withdrawal with a high fee network? If I look how going smooth the game, I suggest you make a deposit and withdraw with the lighting network also. 

I just play the target and multiply 10x by my balance, but I am still curious about the meaning of the orange and white color numbers.

First, you should follow the above recommendations and buy a copper membership and update this thread to make it more attractive.
Second, you need to be more precise and provide more details especially when you talk about a refund policy. Whatever you say here may and will be used against you, so better be as clear as possible. You can't say: we will refund you if you are not satisfied, 'o one is going to buy this.

Maybe they have particular terms or conditions before the player can refund their deposits.
Most of the time, casinos like to put up a bait to naive players, not knowing the terms accompanied by such feature.
So has anyone tried their full refund after 3 days of depositing your money? They said no questions asked.
As they are new casino, better be cautious depositing big amount. They may have mouth-watering cashback, but what is the chance that you can really get such cashback if you read their terms?
From their online stats, it shows about 3813 players. So don't know how legit is the number.

Very bold indeed but we know how a casino operates, we're not going to take your words you have to back it up with why and how you can sustain that business model, you're like promising the moon and the star so players will pick your casino to deposit and play, even the cashback is unrealistic if you're not good at Math how can you sustain your casino.


I don't recommend this casino they are out of their mind with their features all that they are offering are traps this is not how a legit operates, you're running your casino like a charity.

What I understood is when your deposit arrive in your account, you only have 2 hours to gamble, if you didn't withdraw before 2 hours, the casino will confiscate the rest of your money. This is really a shitty rule and the casino is like want to scam their gamblers behind their tricky terms of service.

However the good thing in this casino is their slot are created by them, not using third party. But they still lack of provably fair system and there are many red flags which we need to be careful to try this casino, or just avoid it.

I think they will collect KYC since it isn't indicated in their terms and condition. There's also no way of them knowing if a underage is playing on their casino unless they collect KYC. It also seems that they also lack the privacy notice that they are saying here. I can't find it on their casino website.
This is a problem that they will solve with KYC. As they hold too good to be true offers, they should expect abusers to come in their casino that has a same IP address and for sure abusers will tell them it's their relative, friend or some sort. They should declare it so gamblers will not have a problem understanding if they will collect KYC or not.

It's my first time seeing this kind of rule or disclaimer on a casino. I think they only have small server this is why they don't want inactive gamblers to stay on their casino because it can be an added load to them. They are just a starting casino and I understand it.
 

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I personally opted out in trying this casino because of the too good to be true offer. Everyone's gonna have a not satisfied feedback to it just to claim the refund LOL.

These are my concerns reading the Terms of Service:

If you are under 18 years of age
- Obviously, the only way to know this is thru KYC. Is KYC mandatory at your site?

If you create multiple accounts, only one account is allowed per user
- Are multiple users under the same IP prohibited? What if several users under the same household want to test your site? Most gambling platforms nowadays allowed it as in the first place, there are no benefits from abusing something because accounts still need to spend money to reach those bonus requirements (not unless you have a bonus that is really obviously prone to abuse).

All games must be completed within two hours from the time funds are deposited. In order to maintain system performance and resources, we reserve the right to terminate any game left unfinished for more than two hours. Any bets placed on an unfinished game will be considered a forfeited play.
- Can you explain more and elaborate on this term?

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The most appropriate to apply on deposits is the instant rebate. Cashbacks are supposedly for wagered money.

Aside from that, it's really good to be true to expect something "if we are not satisfied".

The cash back refund policy is the big turn off for me, that's never going to work for any online casino, in fact it's against the rule of a legal casino, there is no refund if you don't like a game, you place your bet and you lose money, if you don't like the game you will have to deposit another money to try out another game, this is the way, this is the truth, any other ways are either manipulators or fraud.

The second red flag is cashback based on deposit, that percentage is too good to be true, I trust this forum for one thing, there are a lot of smart people on here, they are capable of seeing through anything, when something is too good to be true it probably is.

It’s indeed a first time mediocre casino offers a full refund when player didn’t satisfied. You don’t even have a gambling license and have a very poor ANN thread including the website. Even top casino don’t promised a refund despite they have a huge budget to offer that since they knew that it will be subjected to abused.

I don’t know if you’re dumb or just playing dumb by offering this refund policy but for sure no one here will gonna bite the dust on this scheme because there’s a high chance that even a normal withdrawal will be very hard to get considering how you exaggerate your terms just to attract players to play.

Good luck with that.

These are big jokes, how can a casino offer 900% cashback on any deposit. Cashback is usually based on net loss but this one is based on deposit? I think there is something wrong in this site. I checked their cashback banner and its information, I think it should be mentioned as deposit instead of cashback. They offer 300%, 500% and 900% cashback but information is as follow:

• 300% cashback min deposit $5 to get $15
• 500% cashback min deposit $50 to get $250
• 900% cashback min deposit $500 to get $4,500

It is a proof that this casino is not even knowing the difference between cashback and deposit bonus. Their 2 above claims are just a big trap to unexperienced gamblers imo. There is no reason to play in this casino although they also offer free bonus for new users up to $20.

Admin stopped responding, there are too many loopholes and there's false information, they cannot claim to be the leading casino, no way its a false claim and you cannot provide stats or data to prove your claim, but the biggest issue here is the refund, it's impossible for a casino to issue a refund, gamblers are not that idiot to try to play and be comfortable to play thousands of dollars because of refund.

I believe you are trying to entice them to play so you can scam them, there's no way for you to make a profit by offering refunds.

The wagering deposit is quite stupid.

Most of casinos give how much wagering needed to be finish (most of deposit have 1x wagering) no time interval, but this is the first time to see some rules we need to finish the wagering with time.

Imagine, If waggering promotion need time and guess what? x30-x50 it's impossible to do that. The waggering amount has been designed to be lose for player + the rules t&c make more worse for player side.

Welcome to the forum, @nftonspin! It's great to have you here.
I'd like to address a few points that have been brought up by previous members. Firstly, it would be helpful if you could provide clearer details about your "full refund" policy. Transparency is key when it comes to customer expectations.

On another note, I must commend your casino's low deposit/withdrawal threshold of only 0.0001 BTC. That's a user-friendly feature that makes your platform more accessible. However, I feel compelled to express some concerns regarding your "network transaction fee" of 0.001 BTC. In my opinion, this fee seems excessive considering the current network conditions.

Typically, with a transaction fee of 100 sat/vB, which is the recommended "high priority" rate, all transactions are confirmed without any issues in the first block. For an average transaction, this fee should only amount to a few dollars. Comparatively, your fee is significantly higher, which may discourage potential players who are simply looking to try out a new casino. It's worth considering the impact this fee could have on attracting new customers, especially since your platform doesn't have an established reputation within the community yet.

I hope you take these suggestions into account.

there are so many dubious aspects and stuffs to be verified that even if it were all true ... no come on really impossible to believe it.
we await clarifications in all the doubts shown by other users and the clarifications on the TOS.
the fact that after proposing the site OP practically disappeared does not speak in its favor.

ah important and not mentioned before ...even if wasn't enough there is also a 20 USD bonus for each registration

First, like I believe other users have said or suggested to you, you should consider buying a copper membership so as to enable you create a more outstanding Ann thread of your business, nothing differenciate this current thread from every other thread created by regular users of this forum, if this is an actual announcement thread for this casino, then don't leave it like this, cus If you do, soon enough, It will be buried among the millions of other threads in this forum.

And again, I see that the refund policy is your selling point, where are the terms and Conditions for this policy?
I would love to read it to get a better understanding of the refund policy.

You need to do a lot of polishing and quality control on your website. It doesn't look professional: there are a lot of spelling errors, a lot of numerical errors, and the overall feel of it doesn't seem to be appealing enough for a lot of us who have seen casinos put out their best effort on the UI/UX department. Also, your announcement is very lackluster. If you want to catch the attention of a lot of players in here, at least try and get a copper membership to post images and get a decent-looking announcement thread. Better use another tagline as well, as the 'leading crypto casino' is a very hard feat to achieve, and as a new casino, you're nowhere near the leading unfortunately.

But yeah, try working on those things and re-post this thread again.

just like you said the casino need to do some market research first before launching the casino because the title said that Leading Crypto Casino?
i believe the leading crypto casino is stake because they are doing many promos and other stuff.

i visit the website again but there are many things to fix like the total jackpot of $9,96,820

welcome to the forum, I must admit that when I think I've seen everything in this forum something new and unbelievable always appears, I looked at your casino and honestly it doesn't have a nice design and for the services you are offering, they will let anyone questioning whether your casino is reliable or not and everything just gets worse as I read more about your casino, for example:


so the person deposits 3$ and plays, wins and is left with 6$ and will not be able to withdraw, irritated the person continues playing and then he wins and is left with 30$ and when he thinks about withdrawing he will be left with 3$ because it will be deducted 27 $, so I ask why people should use your casino when they can use stake.com casino which will only be discounted $1.90 at withdrawal time, knowing that stake.com is one of the best and oldest casinos you really intend to compete with a casino as big as stake.com and other old and trusted casinos doing that kind of thing?

Could it be that you, before creating this casino, did some market research so that you would bring advantages that other old casinos do not have? because everything I saw in your casino doesn't make any sense, you only have the option of depositing and withdrawing, but you know that in this cryptocurrency market there are many cryptocurrencies, some with high fees and others with very low fees, so it doesn't make sense to just have bitcoin as the only option. I'm not going to talk about the other nonsense things that are in your casino, but it's unbelievable to have so much weird stuff in just one casino

Now the question.

Time to explain the refund program you are referring, this is the first time and just like a trap for user. You just can try to trap a user, then once user requested a refund bunch of reason to denied the refund is been given.

So my only question, what the refund term.

This promotion is too good to be real, so, the question is where is the trick? well we can figure it out on the Terms of Service.

Look at those withdrawal fees:

If you win big you will get the payment in Monthly installments:

If we take any of the promos we only have 2 hours to make the wager:

And if you are in the wrong jurisdiction they will lock your account, the site determines your jurisdiction by your IP, so, it's a tricky point because they don't have a list of valid or invalid countries.

So, I would recommend avoiding this casino, even if the promos look nice the TOS will give an excuse to not pay your money back, in other words, this is just one more disguised scam. If op had a gambling license we could think about playing on the site, but he doesn't even have that.

It looks too good to be a genuine offer. But hey, why do you think people would believe such things? A brand-new casino that doesn't make its name yet offers a full refund if the player is unsatisfied. Whoever loses at any casino is unsatisfied with the game because they lose. Another thing is 900% Cashback on any deposit. I mean, WTF? From where will you get that money to give 900% cashback? Regular casinos cannot even afford to give 30% cashback, while your casino offers 900% cashback. Why will a brand-new casino run its service at a loss?

Moreover, I noticed the player counter shows 3444 Players online, and it's not updating. How does a brand new casino has 3444 players online while they are in the market for a short time? That's an impressive growth  

The domain is not too old. The domain was registered for a year. It was registered in December 2022 and will expire in December 2023.


Good try. But, players won't fall for this trap. Better luck next time.

First and foremost, I must comment on your marketing strategy, which I believe is very poor. You can't just come to a forum and start pooping threads all over without engaging in discussion with those replying to your thread; you've made a total of four posts, all of which were thread starters with not a single reply; you should reconsider your marketing strategy and look for a more effective method.

Second, your bonuses appear to be too good to be true.
I just went to your website, and the design is very poor and not mobile friendly, and for a casino that can't even afford to spend money on a good web design to be promising those kinds of bonuses seems like a bait to me.

Refund is a strong word for a casino. I immediately checked this thread after seeing a refund title. It's really is the first time to see a casino that will offer a refund if users are not satisfied. I worry about the sustainability of the offer that you guys made, Do you have at least a mechanics on how it will work since I believe that it is a too good to be true offer. Multi account abusers will surely enjoy your casino! As it can easily be abused, The cash back percentage is pretty insane too. With the offers you guys showed here, It's too much for a casino and I think I'm doubting the future legitimacy of your casino.

Also you can try to improve your ANN thread since it's not very alluring to eyes of viewers.

I am not sure what is crazier:

1. "NFTonSPIN.com is the first and only casino to have a refund policy, if player is not satisfied."

2. "NFTonSPIN.com also provides upto 900% CashBack on any deposit."

Avoid these kinds of sites, don't even click on them... stay safe!

I don't see how a casino could work with the "Get Full Refund If Not Satisfied" method, because it is an option that many would abuse - does that mean that anyone who loses could ask for a refund because they are "not satisfied"? With a cashback option of up to 900%, it all sounds too good to be true to me, and if it sounds like that, then I advise caution when using such casinos.

Your site is too brave to refund but it doesn't look like a challenge from your gambling site, but if you do it's really great, but you better make sure you are a copper member here to make it look better the thread is cooler using a cool image design to attract people to play on your site, but as said that you need to build a reputation for being active in these threads in order to attract a lot of gamblers.

I haven't registered on your site but there are no games I usually play like Limbo, but interestingly depositing $ 5 getting a welcome bonus is also quite tempting, unfortunately using bitcoin payments currently the network is busy so transactions require more expensive fees for bitcoin transactions , btw welcome to the forum  

The main problem will be related to the actual meaning of satisfaction here, many players will feel unsatisfied for several reasons and mostly because losing moment.
Will they give refund for those who feel unsatisfied because of losing? I doubt about it ofc, and I think it is impossible to give refund just because satisfaction.
Even without deposit, I'm not satisfied for few things already about this site.
I created an account, receive sign up bonus few hundreds satoshi and played their slot game several bets.
What makes me not satisfied? There is no bet history unless I missed it and there is no information about the fairness of the game, afaik the available games are their own original games but it seems that it is not provably fair.
I'm shocked to see their stats on top of their page where it informs visitors that they have 3k+ players already, is this real stats? Too good to be true for a fresh new site.

Is this even possible, how in the world can you sustain your platform if it happens that 9 out of your 10 players asked for a refund, you cannot call this a casino at all because it's no risk, we cannot even call this an entertainment portal because there is no thrill if you are not going to lose money even in gaming site you can lose money, you did not even explain your business model how can you make a platform profitable if players can ask for refund you have to give us more.

You are welcome. I visited your yellowish background casino and it is simple but there no game features displayed on the site. You need to make some available to visitors to see. What you are saying about NFTonSPIN.com is like you giving some exaggerating statement. Saying that NFTonSPIN.com will refund back your deposit if your are not satisfied with the out. Or I am the one that missed something from op? Finally, your ANN thread have to be elaborated. It is too short. Tell us more with some pictorial image so you can go for a copper member of you are serious with NFTonSPIN.com in the forum

     -   As for you mate, you are fooling us in this forum, how did you say that this crypto casino is leading in the field of cryptocurrency which is new here. And it's your first time on the forum.

Then your announcement in the gambling section is not well and good, how can gamblers believe in what you are campaigning for, if it is here it will fail immediately. Even if you say it's the first casino that refunds even if you haven't detailed it in full. First fix what you are doing with the casino promotion here on the forum platform.

First your announcement topic is so bad and you could buy a copper membership to look more professional.
In the other hand you are promoting a casino with highly suspicious features and unrealistic offers in my personal opinion, giving 900% as cashback plus having a refund policy that has never been seen in any reputable casino which makes you look like a scammer that is hunting greedy victims.
If every individual is able to request a refund whenever they have a loss gambling in your casino it begs the question of how your casino could possibly turn a profit logically.
More of this your casino website looks so bad for me as a phone user, and there’s no information about your casino anywhere?

BTC NFTonSPIN.com is the first and only casino to have a refund policy, if player is not satisfied.
This is a bold option which is not provided by any where online in crypto or non crypto gambling.

NFTonSPIN.com also provides upto 900% CashBack on any deposit.
As well as provides 10 FreeSpins everyday if player reaches VIP status.

Visit: https://nftonspin.com

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