Topic: NICEHASH confirmed - hacked - Any legit alternatives? (Read 5272 times)

herer we go: https://www.techpowerup.com/239592/manli-announces-p104-100-turnkey-mining-system

Well, to be honest, the fact that someone has bad history, is ..well just that. Otherwise, the law states, innocent until proven guilty
Despite shady past history, I actually do not think that this is an inside job after all. Time will tell I guess.

The good news (for those who still want to just click and mine without tinkering and ever optimizing hardware, pools etc etc) is that they are probably coming back online sometime soon. https://www.justcryptonews.com/294/nicehash-coming-back-online

We shall see, how that plays out...

I all ways thought the owners of nice hash were shady but didn't think they were that bad..

They are just too lazy to put periods between the letters. 

I wonder if Josh Zerlan was behind NiceHash.

Oh, and it's GED, not to be confused with Q.E.D. (re a post above the fold).

Hey guys.  I just registered an account here and figured I would ask a few stupid questions and get laughed at some haha.  Anyway, I was one of the people who got screwed over by nicehash, but stuff happens and life goes on.  I followed the advice on here and downloaded the NemosMiner 2.2.1 and it's currently running.  I've got a really stupid question though...How do I know when I will get paid or how much I have earned?  With nicehash there was an entire gui/interface that showed everything nice and clear.  With all of the command prompt setups, I have no idea how to figure that out.  I have read a ton about mining, but I still have a lot to learn.  Hopefully you guys won't be to hard on me and help me swap over from what apparently was the dark side.

Thanks again for the help to whoever answers.  If you need any further information let me know.

PS: One more quick question, can the NemosMiner use your CPU as well?  I have a nice new shiny 8700k that I would like to mine with as well if it's possible.  I know certain currencies can be mined with it, I believe cryptonight or keccak, but I could be wrong.  I just don't know if you can do it with NemosMiner / ccminer or if I need something completely separate for that.

Sorry for the noob questions, but I am just starting out lol.  If you guys are curious or it helps at all, I have a single gtx 1080, 8700k, 16gb of ram and a great cooling setup.  Temps at full load are below 50c on the cpu and below 63C on the GPU.

Edit:  Well I figured out how to see how much I am making, I feel pretty stupid now haha.  Still need to find out how to mine with my cpu though instead of just my gpu.  Any tips would be appreciated!

Agree with u) If it is honest everybody who is minnig pools are lazy) The most profit comes from newest coins that nobody had heard;) If u are working somethere else, nice helps u realy fast check profitability and choose algo. If the main job minnig ok u can do all manually, it's your choice.

Not really.  I personally wouldn't call someone lazy who has made learning about cryptocurrency a second full time job for the past several weeks.  I tried NH to get my foot in the door and start generating some $ as a miner who has had my first 6 gpu rig running for less than a week.  I wasn't interested in letting $3500usd worth of hardware sit and not generate anything while I explored other avenues.  On another note, my rig is finally up and running mining something that has required a lot of time and effort.  Thanks for all of the help.

You might want to stop spending your time as a fool so quick to judge anyone who ever used NH and begin by educating yourself on the proper use of punctuation.  That would instantly make more seem a little more intelligent.  Which in your case, is very much needed.

P.S. ... There is a huge difference between your and you're.  Perhaps you should take another look at getting your G.E.D.   

Thanks but how does it compare to Nemosminer? which one is easiest to use for Nvidia cards?

Look it up here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpool-mining-pool-hub-multipool-multialgo-auto-exchange-to-any-coin-472510

how easy is it to use mining pool hub? I really liked the convenience of nicehash
lost a lotta btc though with this hack:-(

Smells to a inside job. Exit scam plausible.


google: gpu what to mine
google: miningpoolhub

You can't blame the victims because nice hash decided to run off with everyone's money, they offered a service that worked for some who were willing to sacrifice a bit more of profit for the convenience. This is really no different than paying exchange, pool, or miner fees. At just about every step of the game you end up needing to trust someone and they could turn out to be a scammer and run off with your funds. Sure you could solo mine to your own wallet and never move the coins anywhere ever, but then what would be the point.

you tried nicehash because your too lazy to actually learn something to better yourself in mining. I feel bad for those that lost btc but hey its the nature of the beast also bout time nicehash came down

I was mining with two S9s for about a day and this happens. It's not a big loss for me but I know how much of a loss it is for people that had more crypto on their accounts. Guess it's just one downside to being lazy.

Lol ... I've had my first 6 gpu rig up and running for a total of 2 days, so don't hate because I tried nicehash for 6 hours and woke up yesterday morning to this.

If you hadn't been using NiceHash, you would know. Now we won't tell you and we will keep mining it 

What were they mining using the cryptonight algo then?

They weren't mining XMR with cryptonight algo on Nicehash.

I went to Awesomeminer/Zpool.ca after yesterday.  Zpool website has been iffy all day, not showing any productivity and now the page is down with the following message, "Frontend offline to help reduce the load to catch up on the backlog of earnings in our DB."

Hopefully everything is good, electric heat is expensive.

Exactly, much more had to be in the wallet of the buyer. And I would not be surprised if it launched a new competitive service next week.

Honestly might as will go back to nicehash when its back up.  One thing you can be sure of is their security will be beefed up hard.  It is really a decent service if you are lazy and or have asics.  I will probably go back when it's up just for ease.  There is no great alternative out there.  I prsonally point only my asics there and all of my miners I run some simple miner and some other stuff.

I said that people are saying their profits have increased due to the difficulty level decrease that having NH out of the picture has created.  That has nothing to do with what anyone is mining with.  The night before NH went down, I was hitting about 6.50/day per card with them.  When they went down, people started saying they were seeing record profits because NH was down, so difficulty had decreased with all of those NH users not mining.  I tried switching to XMR-STAK.  NH was paying more per card to mine Cryptonight than a mining pool with XMR-STAK mining Monero straight up.  All of that while difficulty is supposedly down?

Because everyone and their mother bought out all the VEGA's to mine along with you...  People smell profit and then devour quickly.

Well ... I was getting more than $6/day per RX Vega 56 with NH when BTC was around 15K.  Now it seems I'll be lucky to get $4/day per card mining Monero with XMR-STAK (1800ish h/s per card).  I'm not sure why so many people are saying their profits have increased substantially due to a decrease in difficulty.  If that's the case, what am I missing?

I think they are done for good, and I wouldn't be surprised to see another service start up and take their place.  Nicehash wasn't the most user friendly from the buying perspective.  About the only thing it had going for it was that it made it extremely easy for miners.  People seem to only be thinking about the miners who got fucked.  But I am guessing the big time hashrate buyers had quite a bit of bitcoin in their nicehash wallet for purchases.  Who knows what happened exactly but I am willing to bet whomever is responsible had inside access. No company would be that stupid to keep so many bitcoins in a hot wallet.

pretty much ... they whole taking forever to pay people always scared me away from them... but damn what a shit show

Do you think it will restore services? From the viewpoint of the miners, it will probably be OK if at least they promise gradual refunds on profits, but much more there have the buyers left.

Keep the offtopic stuff in the other thread please. I came here for a new good alternative to nicehash but could just find alot of speculation about the hack Is there no other service like nicehash?!

Are you a worker bee? Lol. Probably why you have negative trust rating? Like you rejoice in the misfortunes of others just because of envy. I'm sorry that it happened. I've seen a lot of tears over the theft of personal wallets a few hundred dollars. In the case of nicehash we are talking about millions. I see no reason for joy.

Why so rough? I know enough about mining, but I ended up at Nicehash. After some time, the daily currency monitoring is no longer fun. And having a BTC has always been a guarantee of currency appreciation.

They might have had about 64 million reasons/"senses"...

Not really, I hear the Devil digs Lambos...

I hope it won't come back online, and if it does, only a lazy retard would do mining there to get scammed once again

When Bitcoin price surges, human nature shows itself, always the same excuse "oh dear, I've been somehow hacked", lies and more lies, but don't worry, Lambos are unworthy in hell. 

Very sad day indeed , I was one of those lazy miners , I was introduced to Nicehash back in June , I have not looked back since , thankfully I have cashed out every Friday....this Friday will be the first Friday I have not cashed out !!!!

I guess I have to get real or sell my kit !! thankfully not a bad time to be selling hardware due to the price of BTC going through the roof

Maybe jump back in when a real lazy style alternative shows up.

Nicehash is dead in the water , anyone hold their breath for it come back online anytime soon , is likely to run out of breath !!! but I shall holds out until Monday and see what happens!

It is a shame for sure I hope people did not get rekt much because of the hack. I was thinking about trying to mine some coins through nicehash and other services. Fortunately I did not started. But the same could also happen with an exhange, crypto is still wild west

Please do that Personaly i would like to take my earnings from nicehash sometime beofre BTC goes $20,000 

NICE have been hacked bad news i have there 0.0013btc and cant withdraw due to limitations. now i cant withdraw because nothing for withdrawing lol
I can recomend many legit alternatives but they all will be hacked in the future how nicehash, maby hacked even themself

IMHO no sense to kill working profitable business. They could get more profit just working or sell it.

Indeed it a nice "idea". How do we know that actual hack is happened and not just another self-bankruptcy?

Yeah, everything that's possible.

True, though multi-day minimum payment thresholds are also to blame here, (NH paid weekly at best) and that's a common problem across many pools. (Nanopool, Ethermine, slushpool, etc, etc).

Obviously, transaction fees start to be an issue if you go the other way to be fair...

Thats not nice that funds have been stolen - but it´s nice for smaller miners cause on several coins the Hashrate and difficulty went down.

Sad today when nicehash announce Hacked
Security is everything but so sorry to all miners and buyers for lost
for me this is a great because Hash rate is significant decresed

Beware iPhone is used to find your password.Prohashing is alternate.

The most ugly joke that now many have fallen profit on other pools.
News is bad, and it is unclear how everything will end.

This is not exchange, this is not pool. This is the place where people sell their hash power to buyers, and you mine altcoins for them. A lot of people didn't meat THRESHOLD because of limits on site that where put aka if you have 0.1 on your wallet(external) or 0.001 on Nicehash's wallet then you can withdraw money and fees were awful(i wouldn't call them fees but more extra charge). So evne if you had 20-30$ you can't withdraw them because the system was made like that... But hey... its to late to cry over spilled milk.

what do you offer?
hardware wallet?
which one?
thanks

bad things always happen in Crypto world 

I think we can summon famous detective @Gleb Gamow if he wants to do something in his spare time.

I think we all need to hold off on the assumptions and wait to see how this plays out. With a crime that has numbers this large all eyes are going to be on them. I'm optimistic they will sort this all out.

So I am guessing we are not going to recover the money that was in our nicehash wallets? 

cryptsy 2.0 and Big vern all over again.  glad I only lost 20 bucks from nicehash from whatever my latop could mine when I was on the road.

Soooo, nicehash succesfully hacked itself...

holy crap, where do people even start to find stuff out like this so fast.  Things may be getting wild.  I'd say a lot of "hack" are simply inside jobs.  Sometimes the amounts are just too big to resist....

I switched to NEMOS / Zpool a while back from Nicehash for all my NVidia hardware... never looked back.

https://imgur.com/a/t36Ia

Will be looking to nemosminer as well, thanks for the suggestion.
In the meantime, the plot (bad news?) thickens according to the post from earlier https://www.justcryptonews.com/291/breaking-nicehash-has-been-hacked-50mln-missing and Reddit :

According to a reddit user the owner of Nicehash company with a share capital of half a million euros is Bitorious (45%) based in Dornberk, its director is Marko Kobal, and 55% of the company is owned by H-Bit. The owner of H-Bit is Martin Škorjanc. An interesting fact is that Martin Škorjanc is the father of Matjaž Škorjanc, who was arrested by Slovenian police for an online cyber crime with the help of the US FBI in Maribor. According to BBC Matjaz Skorjanc was arrested in 2010 after a two-year investigation into malware that had hijacked about 12.7 million computers around the world.

Are things getting wild?

https://github.com/aaronsace/MultiPoolMiner

Latest release
 v2.7.0.2
 214b0a4
MultiPoolMiner V2 - Claymore / NiceHash / DSTM / FireIce-UK / XMRig
@aaronsace aaronsace released this 17 days ago · 20 commits to master since this release

Supports benchmarking, has multi-chip support (AMD, NVIDIA and CPU) and includes built-in watchdog timer.

The 'start.bat' files are examples of how you may run the script (and are editable in notepad).
Advanced users can add more miners in the ‘miners’ folder either as JSON or PS1.

Please see readme for further instructions, sample usage, command line options and check FAQ before submitting bugs and feature requests in the 'issues' section on Github.
Logs and Stats are produced in text format; use them when submitting issues.

Any bitcoin donations are greatly appreciated: 1MsrCoAt8qM53HUMsUxvy9gMj3QVbHLazH

Notes

You will need 'excavator.exe' if you don't already have it:
https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/releases
It is not recommended but to upgrade from a previous version of MultiPoolMiner, you may simply copy the 'stats' folder.
If you have Windows 7, please update PowerShell:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=50395
CCMiner may need 'MSVCR120.dll' if you don't already have it:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=40784
CCMiner may need 'VCRUNTIME140.DLL' if you don't already have it:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

download latest release:  https://github.com/aaronsace/MultiPoolMiner/releases/download/v2.7.0.2/MultiPoolMinerV2.7.0.2.zip

Best Regards
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Do you think that in the future will be possibile to insert ATI GPU?

NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nemosminer-multi-algo-profit-switching-nvidiacpu-miner-1777336


Download: https://github.com/nemosminer/NemosMiner-v2.2/releases/download/NemosMiner-v2.2.1/NemosMiner-v2.2.1.7z
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Enabled: Xevan,Hsr,Phi,Polytimos Algo's
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edit: start.bat

1.change BTC address to yours

2.select how many gpu's you have eg: (1gpu ewbf 0 cc 0) (default 2 gpu ewbf 0 1 cc 0,1) (6gpu ewbf 0 1 2 3 4 5 cc 0,1,2,3,4,5)

3.remove any algos you do not want to mine (default all supported algos enabled)

4.there is a default 5minute per day fee, that can be disabled by changing -Donate 5 to 0

5.run start.bat

If you have Windows 7, please update PowerShell: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=50395

CCMiner may need 'MSVCR120.dll' if you don't already have it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=40784

CCMiner may need 'VCRUNTIME140.DLL' if you don't already have it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

running multiple cards its recommended to increase Virtual Memory 64gb is optimal

requires Nvidia Driver Newer than 384 for cuda 9

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p.s- note instruction number 1 is different for miningpoolhub you need to change user and worker name

Of course it's too bad that it happened. I did not use NiceHash.
But I know a good alternative - minergate.com
Good luck!

Indeed that is how it was supposed to work, though I'm not quite certain how they did it internally cause I have never seen any of the miners idle-ing (as in waiting for some order from a buyer).
Minergate looks like an option at the moment, and i will be reading into it, as is the Mining pool hub mentioned earlier,
thanks for the input everyone

I don't see them crashing out..

this could happen to anyone and everyone is killing them right now over this

granted they shouldn't have keep all the btc in one wallet but that wallet is already blacklisted

did it set me back
yes
is my life over
no
am I going to go back
yes if they change how they handle our btc

Nicehash was seling your hashrate to the highest bidders and getting bitcoin in return, am I right? Because I have never used nicehash. What about to try Minergate? As I know they aren't so good but it can be considered as an alternative of nicehash.
It's sad they didn't care about security, hope they'll come back.

Kinda was a good little lesson.

Its going to be interesting watching difficulties and prices of Alts fluctuate from the fallout.

Actually mining

Its sad, how people never learn. So many sites and exchanges have been hacked, millions gone, and people still use online wallets.

Why would you do that? Its just common sense not to do it.

There are really only two things infinite - peoples stupidity and the universe - and we're not sure about the universe.

I know some people that switched to winminer on the Windows side, I suspect I will try it out on a small rig to see what it's about.

This #NiceHack turned out as a perfect example why centralization is bad. I feel sorry for everyone who got hacked today thanks to NH.

Sad event for Nicehash. I would not be surprised if very high fees gonna be higher. In general, there will be a lesson for everyone else that you need to be more careful about security of your wallets

100% agree...i hope this nicehash and this lazy fucktard miners will never return

Being a miner; hopefully not. Lazy people shouldn't earn as much as they do with nicehash (which is still way too low compared to "manual" mining).

Call me what you want, but difficulty across the board has dropped significantly already and if a nicehash hack is what it takes to shake at least some of the plug and play miners who doesn't even have any idea of the coins they mine, as they only get paid in BTC, I'm all for it.

Mining Pool hub can be configured to auto exchange all coins to any coin of your choice, so you can set it to change to BTC.

It is official Nicehash got hacked https://www.justcryptonews.com/291/breaking-nicehash-has-been-hacked-50mln-missing
They have announced it on facebook, twitter, Reddit, etc , so there is no more point arguing if they were hacked or not, and they won't be back online anytime soon (if ever)...

The question is: Anyone has a good alternative to suggest?
My miners are already on alternative single coin pools, but I would prefer the BTC payout.
Thanks