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Topic: NitroDice RNG is Rigged and not fair! (Read 827 times)

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November 10, 2020, 06:29:19 AM
#47
Don't know about fairness of the rolls, but I have a 0.25 withdrawal that's been 'Blocked', and it's pretty much impossible to get in contact with anyone from NitroDice.

Have joined their Telegram which has been converted to an 'Announcements' group, and messaged the owner as their last 'Announcement' requested people do. Have had my messages read, but ignored.

If anyone has an alternative way to contact them I'm all ears, otherwise I'd advise everyone to stay the hell away. No use being fair if they don't let you withdraw.
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Spear the bees
September 01, 2020, 01:54:40 AM
#46
I hear you man. But twice in 1000 bets? I mean, c'mon ...
If it can happen, then there's nothing to say when it comes to luck.

If you can't find anything to demonstrate them faking provable fairness, then honestly the only thing left to do would be to apply Occam's Razor to the situation and accept that indeed, you were a victim of horrible luck.
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August 31, 2020, 11:31:08 PM
#45
I got angry after I realized, that is nearly impossible to get 13 reds on 1.25x payout.
Please do not fall for this type of thinking.

Almost impossible is not impossible. It's like saying that the probability of you winning the lottery is almost impossible.

You can get a jackpot, and you can get a loss streak. These events can happen with any frequency, even if they are statistically unlikely. Mathematically, the odds of getting 13 losses in a row with a 1.25x payout with a 0.5% edge is (0.204)13, or 1 in 943,643,219.

Is this highly improbable? Certainly! But how can you say that it's impossible for this to happen twice? That would be arguing in bad faith.
All you need, by the way, is ONE example of when they fleeced you on the result to disprove their provable fairness - pick any bet from your loss streak and try to make sure that the server seed and client seed match the surrounding bets (i.e. they are the original pair you had) and the correct results.

I hear you man. But twice in 1000 bets? I mean, c'mon ...
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Spear the bees
August 31, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
#44
I got angry after I realized, that is nearly impossible to get 13 reds on 1.25x payout.
Please do not fall for this type of thinking.

Almost impossible is not impossible. It's like saying that the probability of you winning the lottery is almost impossible.

You can get a jackpot, and you can get a loss streak. These events can happen with any frequency, even if they are statistically unlikely. Mathematically, the odds of getting 13 losses in a row with a 1.25x payout with a 0.5% edge is (0.204)13, or 1 in 943,643,219.

Is this highly improbable? Certainly! But how can you say that it's impossible for this to happen twice? That would be arguing in bad faith.
All you need, by the way, is ONE example of when they fleeced you on the result to disprove their provable fairness - pick any bet from your loss streak and try to make sure that the server seed and client seed match the surrounding bets (i.e. they are the original pair you had) and the correct results.
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August 31, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
#43
just to bump, still cheating

why, oh why, didnt I check NitroDice for scam. Thinking they are legit, cuz few sites listed them. Next time I'll know better!

using dicebot, I got 13 red ones, twice in 1000 bets, on 1.25x payout. I mean, wtf man.

Tried to get that streak in varius programs (online/offline). Highest I got was 10 reds (Excel 1.05 million numbers).

everything was fine until I didn't raised the bet


I know we've been through this, but it's been a while so....
They're provably fair, meaning if they're cheating you, all you need to do is post the player seed/hashed server seed/server seed/nonce.  If something funny is going on they will get caught.  Until then most will assume that you're mad bc you lost.

yeah, I deleted dicebot, out of anger. so no proof there. maybe bet history is stored in AppData folder?

I'll try again, with much less money.

I got angry after I realized, that is nearly impossible to get 13 reds on 1.25x payout.

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August 31, 2020, 01:03:55 PM
#42
just to bump, still cheating

why, oh why, didnt I check NitroDice for scam. Thinking they are legit, cuz few sites listed them. Next time I'll know better!

using dicebot, I got 13 red ones, twice in 1000 bets, on 1.25x payout. I mean, wtf man.

Tried to get that streak in varius programs (online/offline). Highest I got was 10 reds (Excel 1.05 million numbers).

everything was fine until I didn't raised the bet


I know we've been through this, but it's been a while so....
They're provably fair, meaning if they're cheating you, all you need to do is post the player seed/hashed server seed/server seed/nonce.  If something funny is going on they will get caught.  Until then most will assume that you're mad bc you lost.
newbie
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August 31, 2020, 12:55:42 PM
#41
just to bump, still cheating

why, oh why, didnt I check NitroDice for scam. Thinking they are legit, cuz few sites listed them. Next time I'll know better!

using dicebot, I got 13 red ones, twice in 1000 bets, on 1.25x payout. I mean, wtf man.

Tried to get that streak in varius programs (online/offline). Highest I got was 10 reds (Excel 1.05 million numbers).

everything was fine until I didn't raised the bet

newbie
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February 02, 2020, 08:35:23 AM
#40
in addition nitrodice are not paying withdrawals, people need to wait 2days to cashout small amounts(like 200doge), but bigger ones even can not be paid at all Smiley
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January 24, 2020, 12:29:54 PM
#39
https://i.imgur.com/ghIUf1Z.jpg
can someone explain why nonce numbers are missing something to be good sequence, and some of bets are ticked verified, some are not?!
If you have DiceBot set to verify that every bet is provably fair... and some bets don't verify, then you should be checking if those specific bet numbers are consistent with their provably fair algorithm. If not, then that's blatant rigging and would be sufficient evidence. Cheers.

https://imgur.com/a/UvHLRmt

https://github.com/Seuntjie900/DiceBot/commit/51154366e776bd55c66ccc2bcfe64e467ef264d9

This was a Seuntjie Dicebot bug. If you look at the source code is well documented in the last change log. The bet number was wrong and the verification method was bugged. I don't know about the skipped nonce but it is possible the user used more than one dicebot at the same time.
The nonce is by user so probably the missing nonce were on another client the user didn't show to us. On the other hand Seuntjie kept Nitrodice in list unless you want to think Seuntjie lists not fair dicegames.
I use dicebot myself and even thought I prefer other website I tried Nitrodice too and everything was fine and I always received my money. But this is my experience.

Also I don't know why he talks about rigged RNG. Number are generated by a public algorithm. There's no RNG. As long as the bet is verified everything is fair.
Maybe user seems mad because of money loss and try to demonstrate / hope the website if not fair.


Cheers,
Talisker

new user, replied only about nitrodice - that says everything Smiley

read start of topic and explain, whatever you are owner or one of unclever dev technical team, this small things/bugs I dont care much, global problem you can read and watch in start page topic.

yes Seuntjie made betid fix, and verified bet fix, and you can see he added some other stuff - who was checking skipped nonces or ikd what are doing, and ask yourself why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator

every dice, or other online gambling site mostly uses RNG/pRNG how I know.

and your/Nitrodice RNG are was not been how is supposed to be.

and I dont know about Seuntjie, because its dont communicate much, he are all time "busy" etc, he are dont understand that there is something wrong, or dont want to understand it, maybe they have a "deal" between nitro and him/you. Smiley

I dont know with what part of body need to think, if you can't understand that there is something wrong if with 5 different account you will have ridiculus unreal streaks on exactly same time, allmoust second by second in every of them.
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January 22, 2020, 02:24:56 AM
#38
https://i.imgur.com/ghIUf1Z.jpg
can someone explain why nonce numbers are missing something to be good sequence, and some of bets are ticked verified, some are not?!
If you have DiceBot set to verify that every bet is provably fair... and some bets don't verify, then you should be checking if those specific bet numbers are consistent with their provably fair algorithm. If not, then that's blatant rigging and would be sufficient evidence. Cheers.

https://imgur.com/a/UvHLRmt

https://github.com/Seuntjie900/DiceBot/commit/51154366e776bd55c66ccc2bcfe64e467ef264d9

This was a Seuntjie Dicebot bug. If you look at the source code is well documented in the last change log. The bet number was wrong and the verification method was bugged. I don't know about the skipped nonce but it is possible the user used more than one dicebot at the same time.
The nonce is by user so probably the missing nonce were on another client the user didn't show to us. On the other hand Seuntjie kept Nitrodice in list unless you want to think Seuntjie lists not fair dicegames.
I use dicebot myself and even thought I prefer other website I tried Nitrodice too and everything was fine and I always received my money. But this is my experience.

Also I don't know why he talks about rigged RNG. Number are generated by a public algorithm. There's no RNG. As long as the bet is verified everything is fair.
Maybe user seems mad because of money loss and try to demonstrate / hope the website if not fair.


Cheers,
Talisker



newbie
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January 19, 2020, 10:57:14 AM
#37
need to refresh topic!

Im made little bit alarm with my posts, and now people know about it, and im not only one who was not satisfied with this site.

you can join they telegram channel and read, they are not paying withdraws within days, they are locking accounts etc. https://t.me/nitrodiceofficial

https://imgur.com/pZj9JoA

if you start talk something about rigged and cheating, verified bets etc, he are saying that all was Seuntjie and hes bot fault, that site is fair bla bla bla.


if you are new one, please read first page "up" topic, to know whats going on there!
newbie
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January 05, 2020, 06:36:01 AM
#36
I'm not totally sure about the capabilities of DiceBot (as I've only used it occasionally and don't gamble much [in dice] anymore) but if you have any method of exporting the bets live, we can try to see if they're cheating by arbitrarily incrementing your nonce.

idk how to do it, and what you mean in reality, but im interested! tell me more here or in private, what I need to do, and how...  Roll Eyes
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Spear the bees
January 04, 2020, 03:00:04 PM
#35
I'm not totally sure about the capabilities of DiceBot (as I've only used it occasionally and don't gamble much [in dice] anymore) but if you have any method of exporting the bets live, we can try to see if they're cheating by arbitrarily incrementing your nonce.
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January 04, 2020, 01:59:34 PM
#34
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January 04, 2020, 01:51:48 PM
#32
few times in week owner are online in telegram, only there.
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January 04, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
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January 04, 2020, 01:32:21 PM
#29
Seems like he only has the screen shot so I ran a ocr app on the screen shot and the script verified the bet on the second row (the first instance of the 'verified' wasn't checked)


node nitrodice.js
SERVER SEED HASH GIVEN BY SERVER: 611f59a4157101a74ca3f345a5a22fa393ee5f4f4b35018dc450d712fa56f65542b76b42b0d210e e0d915086dfb0dc02b9320569c50f2e40b87a8a4b39745391
BET RESULT FROM SERVER: 828548
CALCULATED BET RESULT: 828548
ALL OK - BET VERIFIED!


The ocr is a little rough:

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569042 03-Jan-20 moo 2 5 2 669042-2 0 1080167 525395783 8aa21abd5c88079646248698866ea84a9673e581e97ba98874f3db39680ea. bb.e.a3d1df9bbdcff5974.2768fc8e012135642dd95b15f266fa6de2950171a4e73b378c63048c7446244fbd3e214cc05ac.aeb5a14.2cd0773cOef2ad7

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Spear the bees
January 04, 2020, 01:02:02 PM
#28
If you have the bet IDs and you're able to do look-ups on the site, then providing a simple list of the bets that have not been verified would be perfect.

Here are the figures we need for each bet (according to their Fair Bets page):
  • server seed
  • client seed
  • nonce
  • bet result
newbie
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January 04, 2020, 12:56:25 PM
#27
Post in text form a few of the unverified bets.

Also post all communications you've had with their support

The vast majority of 'this site is rigged' scam reports are bullshit (it's in most gamblers nature), so don't take the scrutiny personal.

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Post in text form a few of the unverified bets.
tell me how to get they in txt format, idk.

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Also post all communications you've had with their support
owner/global admin are unmaneerly, and are not communicate at all, if you want to talk with him about fairness and send photos with questions, then he answered: "?" "have a nice day" etc. and telegram group admin, deleting all post/photos if talk going about fairness in chat, and ban members.

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The vast majority of 'this site is rigged' scam reports are bullshit (it's in most gamblers nature), so don't take the scrutiny personal.
if you aim it to my side, then we don't have anything to talk about, if you don't understand things what im talked about.
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January 04, 2020, 12:19:40 PM
#26
Post in text form a few of the unverified bets.

Also post all communications you've had with their support.

The vast majority of 'this site is rigged' scam reports are bullshit (it's in most gamblers nature), so don't take the scrutiny personal.
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Spear the bees
January 03, 2020, 11:14:52 AM
#25

can someone explain why nonce numbers are missing something to be good sequence, and some of bets are ticked verified, some are not?!
If you have DiceBot set to verify that every bet is provably fair... and some bets don't verify, then you should be checking if those specific bet numbers are consistent with their provably fair algorithm. If not, then that's blatant rigging and would be sufficient evidence. Cheers.
newbie
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January 03, 2020, 07:20:10 AM
#24
https://imgur.com/ghIUf1Z
can someone explain why nonce numbers are missing something to be good sequence, and some of bets are ticked verified, some are not?!
newbie
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January 03, 2020, 05:27:44 AM
#23
this kind of scam accusation topic are for simple "warning" people, or someone can really do something about it?!
jr. member
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December 29, 2019, 08:59:07 PM
#22
@housework is nothing you can do they will remain with the funds.

 Stay well away from that website and warn others about it.

 Soon going to be closed down.

   Domain Name: NITRODICE.COM
   Registry Domain ID: 2092871933_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
   Registrar URL: http://www.enom.com
   Updated Date: 2019-01-25T08:59:22Z
   Creation Date: 2017-01-25T02:54:53Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2020-01-25T02:54:53Z

 They use a free SSL/TLS certification for https://www.nitrodice.com/  not saying that is bad but for a gambling site should be a proper security in place.
 
 Let's Encrypt is a free, automated, and open certificate authority brought to you by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG)

 The site has HTTPS mixed content found. Your HTTPS website is referring to an HTTP resource:

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/.git/HEAD

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/404javascript.js

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/404testpage4525d2fdc

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/apis

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/disclaimer

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/fairbets

 http://code.ionicframework.com/ionicons/2.0.1/css/ionicons.min.css on https://www.nitrodice.com/houseedge

 
  Avoid it
 
 The website has no firewall
newbie
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December 29, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
#21
they was tracked my ip two times and blocked all account and my funds are frozen, so I will not be testing it anymore, there is no senese, noone will do something with it.
newbie
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December 29, 2019, 12:04:02 PM
#20
RNG making ridiculus streaks every day, nothing changing.

https://imgur.com/ZKM4zNi

(*im simple lazy to stackoff allbots to show the exactly same time)
newbie
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December 28, 2019, 05:18:40 PM
#19
Did you verify? https://www.nitrodice.com/fairbets

Doesn't DiceBot also have automatic verification, IIRC?
Also not sure how your streaks are all 301 when the "worst streak" was <200... unless Dicebot doesn't update live.

https://i.imgur.com/JapF7zz.jpg
- now I was banned in site there Cheesy
 - dont know what is this "automatic verification IIRC"

 - script does

    if currentstreak < -300 then
        stop()
    end

thats why stats shows -301
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Spear the bees
December 28, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
#18
Did you verify? https://www.nitrodice.com/fairbets

Doesn't DiceBot also have automatic verification, IIRC?
Also not sure how your streaks are all 301 when the "worst streak" was <200... unless Dicebot doesn't update live.

newbie
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December 28, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
#17
again get some RNG streak in same time in all accounts 300 loses in row on 5%!

https://imgur.com/JapF7zz

p.s after few minutes on other side(high) the same streaks. its ridiculus Cheesy
jr. member
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December 26, 2019, 07:34:01 PM
#16
@housework see this find https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51717046 they copied Seuntjies DiceBot into a web browser
 
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December 25, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
#15
if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
That's exactly what I mean, by checking the seeds, you can know the transparency of their algorithm. But it cannot be reseted, which means this site does not work transparently. Like others, I've never seen this site before. Look at the TRUST of Id Youthub, Nitrodice has not been proven to be a secure website yet, which means it can be a scam site like you said. So never use such new sites, low houses edge are not good
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December 25, 2019, 09:07:11 PM
#14
I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink

Shady or not this is ridiculous for at least 5 reasons:

1- I don’t know if happens all the time or you just cherry-picked the screenshots where happens to lose in every account.
2- if this was true then you should also win with all the accounts you are using. Did you track that?
3- This would not prove that is rigged but maybe only bugged because of it was true it might be used against the website because you can predict the behaviour and bet at the right moment with all the accounts. So I don’t think the owners are so stupid.
4- Seuntjie certified the website. And he is pretty accurate in removing scam websites.
5- Did you verified the bets with the code provided? If they are all correct then how the hell is possible to scam if the algorithm is public?!! This means that the generated sequence would be always the same for a lot of different parameters!! Prove it. You have all the data to do all the checks.  

That’s the point in this strategy?!

Cheers,
-D
1) read one more time. few time not in all, but 3 of 5 accounts, but its because runned time (logged in) was smaller for they what iv figured out. if you will be 24h+ loggedin and rolled 500k+ rolls then you will get "RNG STREAK" on all accounts.
2) in what scenarion win??? what??? there is no "unrealistic winning streak "periods", RNG luck deviation occurs only in minus sequences(it means you can bet 150000 bets with 97% luck below zero, but you are not having upswings in 150k bets where you will have 103% luck on that distance period.
3) how? what kind of? you only can know that unreal losing streak and deviations from normal will occurs few times in month?!
4) im talked with him, he are testing websites few minutes with rolling and somehow watching, and if they are pay for bot, then he are adding Smiley
5) what? for what i need something to check? im already written upper, im showing people that nitrodice is cheating, i dont care in wich scenario! what I need to proof?

btw, alot of question for new user with post on 3 topic, where two of it is nitrodice Smiley
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December 25, 2019, 07:48:08 PM
#13
I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink

Shady or not this is ridiculous for at least 5 reasons:

1- I don’t know if happens all the time or you just cherry-picked the screenshots where happens to lose in every account.
2- if this was true then you should also win with all the accounts you are using. Did you track that?
3- This would not prove that is rigged but maybe only bugged because of it was true it might be used against the website because you can predict the behaviour and bet at the right moment with all the accounts. So I don’t think the owners are so stupid.
4- Seuntjie certified the website. And he is pretty accurate in removing scam websites.
5- Did you verified the bets with the code provided? If they are all correct then how the hell is possible to scam if the algorithm is public?!! This means that the generated sequence would be always the same for a lot of different parameters!! Prove it. You have all the data to do all the checks. 

That’s the point in this strategy?!

Cheers,
-D
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December 25, 2019, 02:31:15 PM
#12
This is the first time I have heard of Nitrodice. Why in the world would you invest in such shady sites op? You could have chosen far better alternatives instead. Their house edge might not be as low as 0.5%, but it is close to 1% which is good enough and they are legitimate.

Even a 0.1% HE will ensure that you lose in the long run which is why it is pointless focusing on low HE casinos. Focus on other factors too.
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December 25, 2019, 01:29:57 PM
#11
I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
December 25, 2019, 10:59:38 AM
#10
This Id Youthhub is a promoter and thread starter for Nitrodice in the Forum. Which is filled with suspicious behavior and scam accusations.
And the Id's got negative trust from Darkstar_ for promoting Nitrodice which were advertising unbelievable bankroll for itself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2585181



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December 25, 2019, 10:59:18 AM
#9
I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?
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December 25, 2019, 10:35:48 AM
#8
Noob Noob
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 10:27:41 AM
#7
Well we'll
You came in group talk about your losses and now saying it's rigged
I shared my story get rekted $500 + in stake, so NOW WHERE GO AND CRY ?


not for your small minded brains, indenozian tard.
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
#6
Well we'll
You came in group talk about your losses and now saying it's rigged
I shared my story get rekted $500 + in stake, so NOW WHERE GO AND CRY ?
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 10:14:52 AM
#5
Lol you, first of all you didn't prove anything 2nd if you loss that means it's scam, ? So you mean every other dice is scam ?
I got 22 reds in 2x at stake , so that means stake is scam too, ?


you are not so clever, 22loses in ~50% is standart, im already written, tards who dont know anything about probability please dont write at all.

50% 22loses in row is same like 220loses in row on 5% +/-, so really if you dont understand anything please dont write.

Harsh Seghal, idk what is between you and nitrodice, but all know that you are defending in every way this site.
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 10:12:39 AM
#4
Lol you, first of all you didn't prove anything 2nd if you loss that means it's scam, ? So you mean every other dice is scam ?
I got 22 reds in 2x at stake , so that means stake is scam too, ?
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 10:00:00 AM
#3
Why would you even bet that huge on a shady dice site like nitroDice. Was that the advertised 0.5% house edge that lured you?
There's always the probability of getting huge number of loses on every odds, but the losses on exact time frame you mentioned is surely a red flag.
If you are betting huge, stick to trusted dice sites.


it mentioned like shaddy? even Seuntjie added this sites, so idk.

probability is need to be like is need to be, you can't get more than (2000/chance) +/-.
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DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
December 25, 2019, 09:52:49 AM
#2
Why would you even bet that huge on a shady dice site like nitroDice. Was that the advertised 0.5% house edge that lured you?
There's always the probability of getting huge number of loses on every odds, but the losses on exact time frame you mentioned is surely a red flag.
If you are betting huge, stick to trusted dice sites.
newbie
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December 25, 2019, 09:20:02 AM
#1
Hello, I will upload few pictures and let's it talk further.

first of all, if you dont understand probability and math etc, please dont say anything at all.

all screenshots are made when play was in 5% chance (lower possible in Nitrodice site (min 5/max 95))

on 5% chance realistic streaks are till 300(loses in row), some times in few milliards of bets you can get till 350, and something around 400 is what you can see only once in life.

now watch this - https://imgur.com/IPLWTer
here you can see I was get even 800/1200/1300 loses in row, that is ridiculus... it's same like get 130 loses in row on 50% winning chance!


so then I start to test further, make few more accounts and running they 24/7 find another rigged shit. this big unreal ridiculus streak was occurs on every account in almoust same time, few times in month. (in december something like 6x allready)

watch screenshots, if you get my point then you understand.

https://imgur.com/gkaGcjF

https://imgur.com/KPLpyvP

https://imgur.com/6ikqvHG

https://imgur.com/ni9O1A2

RNG are making losing streak everywhere (on IP or everyone who is online - idk yet) in same time (difference is few seconds) in all five runned accounts


and bonus - https://imgur.com/zIe1FjV

bet is winned, but dont appears like winned, and amount is reduced not multilied. but is Seuntjie dicebot bug how much i think. (its from last version)


p.s my old account was hacked (houseworx) so its new one.
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