Topic: No KYC is required during Epiphany Airdrop to 'KYC required' after Airdrop (Read 488 times)
November 07, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
Very sad to hear that, but yesterday I also experienced the same thing, I followed the airdrop program soom initially the cyc was not given, but after the airdrop will be distributed kyc is needed which becomes a problem only available in 4 countries, my country is not included
November 07, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
Only people afraid of KYC are the scammers. Then they use 100’s of fake accounts to complain about it on SNS/BCT. Unannounced KYC is the best way to catch scammers and real bounty hunters should support it. It the only way to protect from scam group with 100’s of accounts stea all the bounty bounty.
They allready had phone verification and Google Authenticator.
In combination with IPadres check, this seems sufficient to filter cheaters.
So why also do KYC?
November 07, 2018, 03:29:59 AM
you should already know that there is no such thing as "free" in the world. so things such as "airdrop" has never been actually free even though it may look like it at first!
what they do is that they are actually "using" you to make money. you are working for them by spreading the word and freely advertising while getting some useless token they created out of thin air and they call that "Free".
these token creators want to make more money. and to do that they usually use KYC to pretend they are legitimate so that more people are fooled and invest in their token so that they can make more money. sometimes they also use KYC as an excuse to get your private information and then sell it on the dark market for more money!
So projects do KYC to seem like a legitimate project?! that makes little sense. Most people in bounty and airdrops are not from industrialized nations, so their KYC information is of no value to resell. Sound like "fake news". Try making a fake passport with someone from Bangladesh KYC info and see if you still dont get searched at customs. In your entire commentary you failed to even consider that dev with skills to make bot to scam airdrops is possible. Humm... what they do is that they are actually "using" you to make money. you are working for them by spreading the word and freely advertising while getting some useless token they created out of thin air and they call that "Free".
these token creators want to make more money. and to do that they usually use KYC to pretend they are legitimate so that more people are fooled and invest in their token so that they can make more money. sometimes they also use KYC as an excuse to get your private information and then sell it on the dark market for more money!
November 07, 2018, 03:17:49 AM
you should already know that there is no such thing as "free" in the world. so things such as "airdrop" has never been actually free even though it may look like it at first!
what they do is that they are actually "using" you to make money. you are working for them by spreading the word and freely advertising while getting some useless token they created out of thin air and they call that "Free".
these token creators want to make more money. and to do that they usually use KYC to pretend they are legitimate so that more people are fooled and invest in their token so that they can make more money. sometimes they also use KYC as an excuse to get your private information and then sell it on the dark market for more money!
what they do is that they are actually "using" you to make money. you are working for them by spreading the word and freely advertising while getting some useless token they created out of thin air and they call that "Free".
these token creators want to make more money. and to do that they usually use KYC to pretend they are legitimate so that more people are fooled and invest in their token so that they can make more money. sometimes they also use KYC as an excuse to get your private information and then sell it on the dark market for more money!
November 07, 2018, 02:22:19 AM
I would usually agree to the sentiment of the OP and to the many who agrees but there are things that even the project founders have no control and one of them is the regulations required. I cannot really blame the founders if they want to comply to avoid facing penalties which is going to be detrimental to the project.
November 07, 2018, 02:17:13 AM
it's an outright violation and a clear deception if they ever held an ICO people should not join their bounty campaign because of their habit of changing rules just to favor them, that's the first sign of scam and people should mark this website.
November 07, 2018, 02:09:48 AM
Maybe they did not think that a large of cheater joined their airdrop before so they have asked KYC,. But in my opinion, you should not sell your information to get a few cents.
November 07, 2018, 01:47:54 AM
Epiphany was having an airdrop earlier this year including the following rule:
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
I do not anymore joined in any airdrop. They are a waste of time plus they only get information from you. Now con artist i will say today for allowing KYC for an airdrop not deserving because it is only an airdrop. Most airdrop is worth only a penny and you are lucky if you can get $10 nowadays which is not also deserving for a KYC to any participants participating. To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
November 07, 2018, 01:43:25 AM
Its definitely not, if from the beginning the project told the participants or investors about the kyc then its okay, but this is like manipulation, after collected some funds then they decided the kyc, the project either try to scam or the developers are not professional at all, as we know some investors are against kyc, its one of the thing that they search before invest
November 07, 2018, 01:31:55 AM
All regulations are from the project side, including whether or not to conduct KYC!
I will not participate in any KYC airdrops because I think this will reveal my privacy!
I will not participate in any KYC airdrops because I think this will reveal my privacy!
November 07, 2018, 01:25:10 AM
I still cant believe people are still taking part in airdrop when what you will earn will probably be used as a transfer fee. well I think hunter should know that alot of project play game this day most importantly when they realized they are giving too much coin for free and in most cases this is what you see. as new rules which wasnt part of the agreement at the start will be introduced. this will make some hunter not qualify to get their token when they do not want to do kyc.
November 07, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
That's too bad, I mean they didn't say it in the beginning, so why are they changing this tune. And for bounty hunters, if you're not comfortable giving out your personal information then there's no need for you to submit it and just ignored and totally forget about this airdrop, its not worth, just saying.
November 07, 2018, 01:00:02 AM
So far, no ICO team has shown who and how they are asked to conduct a KYC check against participants in the ICO generosity campaign. It is one thing to require such an inspection from investors who invest their money in ICO projects, and another thing from people who will advertise their project and with whom they will pay for their services
November 07, 2018, 12:52:57 AM
I am also of the same opinion that KYC is not required. Sometimes you pass the verification, and you do not give tokens. So here. Therefore, I would recommend to create projects without verification, and to protect them, do not do anything else.
November 07, 2018, 12:46:11 AM
I think this is quite normal, and there are countless such projects. You participate in their game, you should accept their rules, and they are the ones who can change the rules. You ask fair? I think it's unfair when you join.
I also support ICO projects that have bounty programs and airdrops that they require us to KYC, thus reducing fraud and some people exploiting non-KYC Bounty programs to change their wallet address very much. . I would like ICO projects to have a bounty program that requires KYC. November 07, 2018, 12:41:01 AM
in bounty something like that also happened. but because many failed during the Kyc verification process, it was finally canceled. something like that usually happens when the team will try a new system in the launch and distribution of tokens.
November 07, 2018, 12:31:57 AM
All these people crying about KYC are conviniently avoiding the fact that THERE ARE SPAMMERS WITH 1000's OF ACCOUNTS....
If we get the scammers out by KYC then airdrops for real people will be worth something!!
If we get the scammers out by KYC then airdrops for real people will be worth something!!
November 07, 2018, 12:28:10 AM
why do you need Kyc for Airdrop while it's only a promotion and the price of coins that get from Airdrop is not too expensive. kyc is only needed for investors, not for bounty hunters who participate in Airdrop.
November 07, 2018, 12:18:38 AM
to airdrop with KYC, I am not so sure. the result of the airdrop owns quite a lot of doubt because even among those not big and not even worth paying. When these need KYC is certainly hard to believe if it can promise the airdrop or only way to steal the identity only.
November 07, 2018, 12:07:08 AM
Airdrops tend to be kind of useless. Almost always you end up with too few tokens to even make it worthwhile to sell them. However if you create robots to sign up multiple accounts then it becomes quite an earner which is why we see so many of the airdrops now asking for KYC.
November 06, 2018, 11:59:52 PM
Only people afraid of KYC are the scammers. Then they use 100’s of fake accounts to complain about it on SNS/BCT. Unannounced KYC is the best way to catch scammers and real bounty hunters should support it. It the only way to protect from scam group with 100’s of accounts stea all the bounty bounty.
November 06, 2018, 11:04:45 PM
those are some bullshits! if such thing happens (as per your claim, which has already happened) - Epiphany will loose trust and just became another dead or semi-dead alt.
November 06, 2018, 10:47:30 PM
I think this is quite normal, and there are countless such projects. You participate in their game, you should accept their rules, and they are the ones who can change the rules. You ask fair? I think it's unfair when you join.
Right we have the right to ignore it, but if we want the token free from them then we need to accept all of the rules they give. with me the airdrops asking for KYC are all bullshit, I never joined them
November 06, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
I think this is quite normal, and there are countless such projects. You participate in their game, you should accept their rules, and they are the ones who can change the rules. You ask fair? I think it's unfair when you join.
November 06, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Well most of ICO or airdrop host not only do KYC because of AML but it is part of their customer survey, and they mostly use it for future promotion, and other than it is useless for KYC to get small amount of money, it is also dangerous to give away your identity proof. I never joined any airdrop that requires KYC, I joined some bounty that ask me to send my ID but only when I find the team and their project is absolutely legitimate.
November 06, 2018, 08:28:53 PM
I participated in Epiphany's bounty campaign since it's beginning and never KYC was a mandatory option. Only it was as optional step for those who wants to get an additional reward. But they never mentioned that all of us should do KYC in order to get free tokens.
They have changed rules after the end of the campaign, when the time to pay us for a work became. So i consider such action as just a scam. They knew that many of us would not participate because of KYC, so they was silent all time and just used our work while they had need it. But at the end we have not got paid. This rule change is just a reason how do not pay.
Finally i think that KYC is not comparable with cryptocurrency at all, because it brokes such basic principle as anonymity. So projects with KYC should not take a place in the crypto world.
This is not either the first or the last such scam. So let's just forget about Epiphany and move on.
They have changed rules after the end of the campaign, when the time to pay us for a work became. So i consider such action as just a scam. They knew that many of us would not participate because of KYC, so they was silent all time and just used our work while they had need it. But at the end we have not got paid. This rule change is just a reason how do not pay.
Finally i think that KYC is not comparable with cryptocurrency at all, because it brokes such basic principle as anonymity. So projects with KYC should not take a place in the crypto world.
This is not either the first or the last such scam. So let's just forget about Epiphany and move on.
November 06, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
in my opinion KYC just for some candy is very risky so just forget about them and look for another airdrop
there are many who don't like KYC so maybe this is one of their strategies to attract participants, if not for this reason why they didn't say it from the start
there are many who don't like KYC so maybe this is one of their strategies to attract participants, if not for this reason why they didn't say it from the start
November 06, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
That seems interesting for me. Why they want kyc while they are giving free tokens to people. I can not understand AML issue. If you want to invest maybe that can be true. But while they are giving to you tokens why they want kyc from you. Anti money laundering means they can not accept your money if they can detect some problem about you. But while givin free tokens i can not understand that aml and kyc issue. I think wanting kyc for free tokens is very very bad and unnecessary. these are very important documents for us. Maybe they will give you 2 dollar value tokens and they will take your important documents. That is not fair.
November 06, 2018, 07:40:57 PM
if in my opinion, for an airdrop it is not necessary to have a KYC, but it will return to the policies of each project. It is possible for the project to anticipate fraud against airdrop hunters, by applying KYC to airdrop to ensure that the person is truly a legitimate identity owner .
because now there is a lot of cheats who cheat by using other people's identities to follow an airdrop.
because now there is a lot of cheats who cheat by using other people's identities to follow an airdrop.
November 06, 2018, 07:28:30 PM
Epiphany was having an airdrop earlier this year including the following rule:
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
That is the world we are today
Lies and inconsistency
How could such a project be of great success ?
Decide for yourself but don’t sell yourself on the cheap
November 06, 2018, 07:22:51 PM
Epiphany was having an airdrop earlier this year including the following rule:
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
Forget it and that will be wasting a lot of your time to filled all of requirements. Did you wanna get some pennies and exchange it with your identity? This is a joke at least they can prove what they are talking about. Give your KYC for $2 and then get your own point dude. To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
November 06, 2018, 04:25:44 PM
Not only epiphany ,this days there are too many airdrops and bounties claiming they don't need kyc for distribution but ended up forcing it on people ,its a shame nothing can be done about it
November 06, 2018, 04:16:18 PM
These days alot of project are taking advantage of participants kyc is a well known project and each project even have started asking for it since 2017. The airdrop took place early this year they ought to have asked for it since the start not when the are about to share it.
November 06, 2018, 03:06:11 PM
Personally I name such kind of KYC just the process of the collecting of your data, and what about the inforcement so everything is possible, nowadays SEC puts pressure on lots of crypto projects.
November 06, 2018, 02:36:31 PM
I also like such projects, which from the very beginning say that they will not conduct KYC for bounty hunters, and then it turns out that they introduce KYC, so I think that such projects can immediately be called scam projects
November 06, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
The process of KYC / AML has now become a prerequisite for the sale of tokens. Regulators and governments are forced to do this to know every investor, to control us. Unfortunately, we will not be able to influence this in any way and we need to fulfill the requirements. I do not think this is bad, the governments have begun to regulate the cryptocurrency market and I think these are the first steps.
November 06, 2018, 01:41:38 PM
Does the token already have an exchange?
The number of tokens you will get has a good value like 100 USD or more?
If not then forget the KYC! it will just be a small thing for your KYC.
The value will be spend in transfer fee.
The number of tokens you will get has a good value like 100 USD or more?
If not then forget the KYC! it will just be a small thing for your KYC.
The value will be spend in transfer fee.
November 06, 2018, 01:39:02 PM
Although they say it's not their fault, clearly must say so at the beginning of the airdrop, many times it is not worth doing these airdrops if they are going to require KYC, because the time needed to spend it is usually greater than that invested in the airdrop itself, which becomes counterproductive.
November 06, 2018, 01:32:03 PM
It is not really a shock to anyone that some ICO scammed its investors out of money they can. Right now they are playing the "we are willing to let you do you if you provide KYC" card and trying to look like they are not scam but after such a deal if anyone stays with them I would be shocked. Take your money out of there as soon as possible and get out, cut your loses see this is a learning lesson and just run away from them.
I would never work with anyone that has this kind of bad business moves. If they are doing this right now after airdrop than I am definitely sure overtime they will become worse and worse and eventually take your money and run with it. There has been a lot of these types of stuff happening on crypto this year and we should stop them by just not investing or taking our money out as quickly as possible leaving them with nothing.
I would never work with anyone that has this kind of bad business moves. If they are doing this right now after airdrop than I am definitely sure overtime they will become worse and worse and eventually take your money and run with it. There has been a lot of these types of stuff happening on crypto this year and we should stop them by just not investing or taking our money out as quickly as possible leaving them with nothing.
November 06, 2018, 09:03:34 AM
yes, I joined EPNEX's campaign and they said that the KYC is not necessary. but then suddenly they said that KYC was necessary. and this ended my trust in them. I'm not logging into websites anymore. I don't want to be a part of this deception.
November 06, 2018, 08:53:38 AM
I think they are the masters of wordplay. There is clearly no contradiction in their statement. But that is not fair.
November 06, 2018, 08:46:26 AM
Epiphany was having an airdrop earlier this year including the following rule:
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
To complete the referral process, 'Invitees' must pass Google Authorization. No KYC required for Referrals
Now just before withdrawal is available KYC is required for referrals because of this reason:
Every token that we give needs to be KYC approved for AML reasons. Is not just for users trading in our exchange.
It may seems like it's useless to get KYC for small amounts, but this is not our policy, is what we are asked to do.
This doesn't look fair to me. I don't think many people would promote this airdrop if KYC was required before or during the airdrop.
They say that KYC is not their own idea, but they have to because of the law. I can't believe KYC is required for transfering a few free tokens to an ERC-20 wallet.
I was wondering if this is a legit way of having an airdrop
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