Topic: No religion can save us? (Read 433 times)
The only one that can save you from anything that you have to be saved from is yourself and the decisions that you make. There would be people along the way who would help you but in the end it will still be your decision to accept that help that would help save you. There is no point on relying on a higher entity and just wait for something to happen. However, if you need to believe on something to make the right decisions then you do you.
Is it true that there's no religion could save us?
what do you want to be safe from? if you want to be safe or avoid doing bad things, every religion can definitely lead you. I believe every religion must teach good and bad things. but if you want to be safe from death, i don't think there is a religion that can save you. Religion doesn't save. Only if you happen to have the Christian religion, will you be directed to Jesus-salvation, which does save.
Religion is man's best attempt to get to God. The Bible compares religion with a relationship. It's a relationship to God that saves us. A relationship is God's attempt to get to man. We find that in Jesus Christ. Education is the key.
This I agree with. In a sense, science/logic/reason saves rather than religion. Its better to be acquainted with the ugly truth and get to the solution of the problem with utmost clarity. Rather than blindly believing that someone somewhere will save us from misery.
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Did you choose your religion, or did your parents choose it for you?
You have a point. This is how they maintain their ranks, if we put it this way - include children in religion while they still don`t have their own opinion and thus can`t choose to join or not.
The most rational solution is to wait until a child is grown up so he can decide for himself. Religious upbringing steals free will from a person, though I think religious people will disagree.
No offence meant, I am just sharing my opinion on upbringing - the way I will choose with my own children.
Teach them science, then open the Bible on page one. They will not have to read the rest of it. The first page is all they will need to conclude that people who wrote the Bible did not know much about the world around them. Never mind the imaginary God who inspired the Bible.
Education is the key.
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Totally agree. Religion was actual once, then people lacked scientific knowledge, so they had to explain natural natural phenomena and human behavior with the help of mythical beings.
This is hardly the case now, religion is a way to obscure the objective truth.
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Did you choose your religion, or did your parents choose it for you?
You have a point. This is how they maintain their ranks, if we put it this way - include children in religion while they still don`t have their own opinion and thus can`t choose to join or not.
The most rational solution is to wait until a child is grown up so he can decide for himself. Religious upbringing steals free will from a person, though I think religious people will disagree.
No offence meant, I am just sharing my opinion on upbringing - the way I will choose with my own children.
Teach them science, then open the Bible on page one. They will not have to read the rest of it. The first page is all they will need to conclude that people who wrote the Bible did not know much about the world around them. Never mind the imaginary God who inspired the Bible.
Education is the key.
It is better to be sober than a happy drunk.
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Did you choose your religion, or did your parents choose it for you?
You have a point. This is how they maintain their ranks, if we put it this way - include children in religion while they still don`t have their own opinion and thus can`t choose to join or not.
The most rational solution is to wait until a child is grown up so he can decide for himself. Religious upbringing steals free will from a person, though I think religious people will disagree.
No offence meant, I am just sharing my opinion on upbringing - the way I will choose with my own children.
Religious discussions are very sensitive, they will say their religion is the best and can save us. Religious issues are your right, whether you want to be religious or not. I am Muslim and believe that Islam will save me and other Muslims in the world.
Did you choose your religion, or did your parents choose it for you?
Indoctrinating a child is much different than giving them a choice... if you tell a 5 year old that God is named Allah, they will accept it as a fact without even questioning the idea... this is not giving them a choice
Religious discussions are very sensitive, they will say their religion is the best and can save us. Religious issues are your right, whether you want to be religious or not. I am Muslim and believe that Islam will save me and other Muslims in the world.
What exactly defines salvation? This concept is different in all religions. In Christianity, religion I'm most familiar with, salvation is the ascension to Heaven opposed to descent to Hell.
As far as I can understand from my atheistic point of view, it doesn't prevent death, it takes into account afterlife and soul concepts.
This is regarding religious aspect, but if we get more practical, the topic headline gets another aspect to it: save as in prevent humanity from extinction.
In this case only we can save ourselves, no religion will help - and seems like the only way to do this is to prevent our planet's environment from degrading.
As far as I can understand from my atheistic point of view, it doesn't prevent death, it takes into account afterlife and soul concepts.
This is regarding religious aspect, but if we get more practical, the topic headline gets another aspect to it: save as in prevent humanity from extinction.
In this case only we can save ourselves, no religion will help - and seems like the only way to do this is to prevent our planet's environment from degrading.
HA! this sentence is laughable religion (what it is today) is a complete scam including christianity. I think there are small bits of truth to every religion but what they are today have nothing to do with the original Idea. It is just a bunch of inspiring books with cryptic metaphors and stories they can no more save you than any of the thousands of self help books published by snobby authors that think they can profit off the weak mindedness of the general public.
There is only one true way to experience god and it is NOT EASY and that is through extreme physical stress whether it be through fasting, a near death experience, hours of meditation, or going through a difficult psychedelic experience. What you choose is up to you but no reading of a book will bring you to god....
There is only one true way to experience god and it is NOT EASY and that is through extreme physical stress whether it be through fasting, a near death experience, hours of meditation, or going through a difficult psychedelic experience. What you choose is up to you but no reading of a book will bring you to god....
Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
And again save you from what? Death?
Remember that Death is inevitable, what happens after that? Nothing.
Death may be prevented within the century, but religion will have nothing to do with it.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/265609-startup-nectome-wants-back-mind-first-kill
Plenty of scientists, researchers and startups are working on brain preservation. I'm sure this will bring about new religious ideologies and philosophies. People have to find meaning and purpose somehow.
Death is death, Even though you preserve a brain or clone one. It's still the same, and again death will be and always will be our end.
This researches will not nor can prevent death as far as I'm concern, it will only lengthen the suffering nor the sorrow the people.
No it is not true that no religion can save us.
It depends upon the belief or your intensity of faith in God.
If the intensity in God is very high then surely God will save us from every evil.
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It depends upon the belief or your intensity of faith in God.
If the intensity in God is very high then surely God will save us from every evil.
Thanks.
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Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
And again save you from what? Death?
Remember that Death is inevitable, what happens after that? Nothing.
Death may be prevented within the century, but religion will have nothing to do with it.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/265609-startup-nectome-wants-back-mind-first-kill
Plenty of scientists, researchers and startups are working on brain preservation. I'm sure this will bring about new religious ideologies and philosophies. People have to find meaning and purpose somehow.
Yes it is not possible for religion to save us from death because we don't have any evidences of it. But because no evidence is yet found, it doesn't mean that it is not true. Science would possibly save us from death as our technology and knowledge were advancing right now. But, I would stick to a belief that faith would also be a way to be saved, although it is not yet proed right now.
Reject religious dogma, but consider the accumulated information contained in it's myths.
Do not make yourself prisoner inside a philosophical/religious structure, but equally do not raze it to the ground and dance like savages in the ashes.
Do not let religion control you in your search for meaning, but do not mistake it as meaningless.
Do not make yourself prisoner inside a philosophical/religious structure, but equally do not raze it to the ground and dance like savages in the ashes.
Do not let religion control you in your search for meaning, but do not mistake it as meaningless.
Religions had a past , a cruel past, and now they want them to save us, Only faith can save us , no need for religion if you believed in something !
That's the truth and only your faith alone can save you from anything. Too many examples out there, let's say you're on the right religion but you are not even following the teachings.
You can judge yourself alone.
You can judge yourself alone.
Exactly , no religion can save us from death. Religion only teaches us to have faith in god not to teach us to save people from death and sufferings. Only people can save their own life , because whether we accept or not death will come on our life. Religion will only save from our faith.
Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
And again save you from what? Death?
Remember that Death is inevitable, what happens after that? Nothing.
As people say, no one really fear death, they fear the unknown. Religion is a thing from past, that people just can't get rid of. Even if you look at Christianity now, you'd think they would be very heretical in the eyes of medieval (renaissance even) Christians. It's evolving to be more pleasing to the mind of people, but still, do we really need it? We are rather abundant for mind distractions now, in my opinion, and religion is just one of the many.
Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
And again save you from what? Death?
Remember that Death is inevitable, what happens after that? Nothing.
Death may be prevented within the century, but religion will have nothing to do with it.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/265609-startup-nectome-wants-back-mind-first-kill
Plenty of scientists, researchers and startups are working on brain preservation. I'm sure this will bring about new religious ideologies and philosophies. People have to find meaning and purpose somehow.
Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
And again save you from what? Death?
Remember that Death is inevitable, what happens after that? Nothing.
Religion does not really save someone. It is having faith in what you believe in that can really save you
I fully agree with the topic of this thread, except I would replace the question mark with an exclamation point, like this:
No religion can save us!
Though, I suppose that leaves it as a double-entendre. Perhaps, "non-religion can save us!" would be more precise
No religion can save us!
Though, I suppose that leaves it as a double-entendre. Perhaps, "non-religion can save us!" would be more precise
Religion is the opium for masses
I prefer actual opium... religion doesn't get me high at all
You really need to watch the John Wayne movie "The High and the Mighty." Opium might get you high, but it will leave you weak enough that you will still die.
Is it true that there's no religion could save us?
Why do you need saving from something for? The only one, that could reliably save you, is yourself. Religion is the opium for masses, as one famous communist said once. And while i'm not for his methods entirely, i must agree to that sentence.
Tell that to all the dead people in the cemeteries. Oh, that's right. You can't. They couldn't save themselves. However, some of them were Jesus faithful, and are alive, right now, with Him, in Paradise, saved by Him, and waiting for the New Universe, where they will live with God forever.
Religion is the opium for masses
I prefer actual opium... religion doesn't get me high at all
Is it true that there's no religion could save us?
Why do you need saving from something for? The only one, that could reliably save you, is yourself. Religion is the opium for masses, as one famous communist said once. And while i'm not for his methods entirely, i must agree to that sentence.
Religion doesn't save. Only if you happen to have the Christian religion, will you be directed to Jesus-salvation, which does save.
Save us from what?
I don't see a problem, nor a solution through religion... religion just wants your money for some entertainment (if you are into that sort of entertainment)
"Life is pain, highness... anyone who says differently is selling something" -Wesley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThDwS79HPhs
I don't see a problem, nor a solution through religion... religion just wants your money for some entertainment (if you are into that sort of entertainment)
"Life is pain, highness... anyone who says differently is selling something" -Wesley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThDwS79HPhs
Is it true that there's no religion could save us?
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Is it true that there's no religion could save us?
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