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Topic: No seed, no password, but maybe some hope? (Read 252 times)

legendary
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July 28, 2020, 10:47:31 PM
#12
1. The back seed mnemonic (aka 12/24 word recovery phrase)

as far as i can remember Electrum only created 12 word long seed phrases and although the code supports other lengths and also BIP39 seeds they include a wider range of word lengths.

by the way OP only has 1 post and hasn't been back for 3 days! ...and this looks like another case of "bought wallet file".
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legendary
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Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.

You need ONE of these:

1. The back seed mnemonic (aka 12/24 word recovery phrase)

OR

2. The wallet file AND the correct password


So, if you have just the wallet file, then you're out of luck... and your only hope is to try and bruteforce the password using something like hashcat or btcrecover
legendary
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One more pro who could help
On what basis do you call this guy a pro? It's an inactive account with no trust ratings and very little activity in the thread he created. Just because he started a thread with some common sense advice doesn't make him a trustworthy person to send your wallet files to.

Thanks for that answer, but I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
When you type in the wallet name, all you are doing is directing Electrum to open the correct wallet file. Typing in the name and importing the wallet file are essentially the same thing. With both of these methods, you also need to know the password. If you forget the password, you cannot access your wallet, either by typing in the name or importing the file. Your only solution then is to recover from your seed phrase or brute force the password.

[1]Typing your username is a pain in the rear. But I prefer to type than copy paste. Grin
Just call me Leo. It's far easier. Wink
legendary
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I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, that's the way I understand your explanation.

When importing a wallet, the password will be requiredif you set one in first place.
Setting a password will encrypt your wallet's private keys and without it you will not be able to decrypt it. Your wallet software can't read/import an encrypted wallet file without its password

If you forget the password like OP did, your only option is to try to crack it using some tools like btcrecover (read o_e_l_e_o's detailed reply).
hero member
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Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
Regarding this post. Possible to do brute force password using that tool.

Importing the wallet file by choosing button where you save it on pc folder, don't need to type the wallet name. the password required, if you created password, if you leave it empty, it doesn't require when importing wallet.





Thanks for that answer, but I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, that's the way I understand your explanation.
legendary
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Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
Regarding this post. Possible to do brute force password using that tool.

Importing the wallet file by choosing button where you save it on pc folder, don't need to type the wallet name. the password required, if you created password, if you leave it empty, it doesn't require when importing wallet.



hero member
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No, wallet addresses are publicly known information. Unless you have your wallet file then you won't be able to recover your funds unless you have the seed.

Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
legendary
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
So I have unfortunately lost both my seed and my wallet password
Think carefully if you can remember having stored a copy of the wallet password and private key. Maybe the seed passphrase was written somewhere? If not then there is little you can do. See what o_e_l_e_o [1] says and that might help.

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But I do have 1x wallet receiving address written down, and I was wondering if that in any way can help me open my wallet?
It would not help. If that was so easy then people would not be sharing receiving addresses to get paid. Roll Eyes

[1]Typing your username is a pain in the rear. But I prefer to type than copy paste. Grin
legendary
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Your only solution is to try to brute force the password to the wallet file. If you have some idea of what the password will be this will be much easier. If you have no idea, and the password was long and complex, then it will be near impossible.

The program I would probably try first is btcrecover. The original (https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover) will work with old Electrum files (version 1.x and 2.x), but hasn't been updated in 3 years. There is a fork which is maintained and should work with all Electrum versions though (https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover). Back up your wallet file first, and run all this on an offline computer. Check out the tutorial file on the GitHub page for instructions for use.

If you can't manage this yourself, then your best bet would be to try sending a PM to this user: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/walletrecoveryservices-130960. I can't personally vouch for him, but he has a long history of helping people recover their wallets.
legendary
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You need the private key of that address or the seed that has been used to generate it to access it and become able to spend from it.

If you still have a copy of the wallet file and the password used to encrypt it isn't too long/strong then you can try your luck with one of the wallets recovery tools or services. It would help much if you remember the exact length and/or some characters of the password.
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No, wallet addresses are publicly known information. Unless you have your wallet file then you won't be able to recover your funds unless you have the seed.
newbie
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So I have unfortunately lost both my seed and my wallet password.... But I do have 1x wallet receiving address written down, and I was wondering if that in any way can help me open my wallet?
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