Node votes-by-user-agent are, in principle, pretty much useless

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Quote from: meono on August 17, 2015, 09:35:32 AM

Quote from: desired_username on August 17, 2015, 07:31:44 AM

This is why BIP101 implemented in XT uses 75%+ of blocks mined with XT.

Also, Say no to censorship, there are some uncensored bitcoin communities out there.

+1

Does these antiXT idiots read at all?

Not surprising since they just love to bash blindly.
They dont even have the IQ to grasp the meaning of economic majority.

They only spread disinformation and propaganda.

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Quote from: meono on August 17, 2015, 09:35:32 AM

Quote from: desired_username on August 17, 2015, 07:31:44 AM

This is why BIP101 implemented in XT uses 75%+ of blocks mined with XT.

Also, Say no to censorship, there are some uncensored bitcoin communities out there.

+1

Does these antiXT idiots read at all?

Not surprising since they just love to bash blindly.
They dont even have the IQ to grasp the meaning of economic majority.

dont talk about that. welcome to "bitcointalk china edition" Wink

meono

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Quote from: desired_username on August 17, 2015, 07:31:44 AM

This is why BIP101 implemented in XT uses 75%+ of blocks mined with XT.

Also, Say no to censorship, there are some uncensored bitcoin communities out there.

+1

Does these antiXT idiots read at all?

Not surprising since they just love to bash blindly.
They dont even have the IQ to grasp the meaning of economic majority.

balu2

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Certainly it's gonna trigger prematurely if it ever does. The low 75% mark will just make sure it'll come out 50/50. lol. Madness.

johnyj

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Beyond Imagination

Even XT clients have created 90000 spv nodes, it will still be easily attacked by 1 core node running a large mining pool

And core clients can create another million core spv nodes too

desired_username

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This is why BIP101 implemented in XT uses 75%+ of blocks mined with XT.

Also, Say no to censorship, there are some uncensored bitcoin communities out there.

DooMAD

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Well done, you've found yet another way to prove to everyone you have no scruples and will plunge yourself to any depth of deceit to pursue your agenda. It's odd that you're so proud of it. Roll Eyes

ITT: *Can't argue on merit, resorts to dirty tricks campaign*

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Wow. That's pretty evil.

It says it can mine too?
That doesn't sound likely. Maybe it creates empty blocks?
The xt fork is based on miner votes, so it would have to make blocks to affect that particular vote.

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Quote from: basil00 on August 17, 2015, 04:58:30 AM

FYI:

PseudoNode is already a type of p2p proxy. You can download it from here and spoof an XT node directly from a console:

Code:

pseudonode --stealth --coin=bitcoin-xt

or for Windows users:

Code:

PseudoNode.exe --stealth --coin=bitcoin-xt

from a CMD console.

Next go to getaddr.bitnodes.io and if everything is working your IP will show up an an XT node and be counted towards the total (if not, then probably port 8333 is blocked). Alternatively, you can pretend to be Bitcoin-core (Satoshi:0.11.0):

Code:

pseudonode --stealth

For those wondering: a PseudoNode is a type of cryptocurrency network node that uses network heuristics (rather than the normal validation method) to validate data. To the network, a pseudo node appears to be the same as a normal full node, (a pseudonode will relay blocks and transactions just like a regular full node). However, unlike a normal node, a pseudo node is very fast, and will "sync" with the network within seconds (no lengthy blockchain download is required). For more information about what PseudoNode is, see here and here. For those wondering: the network heuristics used by PseudoNode are quite strong in practice -- it is non-trivial to "trick" PseudoNode into relaying invalid data -- although it is theoretically possible.

The point of all this is that node votes-by-user-agent are, in principle, pretty much useless. It is trivial for anyone to turn their IP address into a "node" at near-zero storage/memory/CPU cost. This is also one of the reasons why incentivized full nodes don't work.

That all said, for obvious reasons it is better to run proper validating nodes (e.g. even Not Bitcoin XT) rather than pseudo nodes. My post is provided for information reasons only...

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Quote from: chek2fire on August 16, 2015, 07:42:25 PM

This is a special fork for those who do not agree with the blocksize scheduled increase as proposed by Gavin and Mike in their divisive altcoin fork, "Bitcoin XT".

This version can be used to protect the status quo until real technical consensus is formed about the blocksize.

This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks.

Running this version and/or mining with XT block versions will make it impossible for the Bitcoin XT network to detect the correct switchover and cause a premature fork of anyone foolish enough to support BIP101 without wide consensus from the technical community.

It prevents correct detection of Bitcoin XT adoption in the wild since usage will be known to have been tampered with and thus all statistical data gathered by getnodes can only be considered unreliable.

https://github.com/xtbit/notbitcoinxt#not-bitcoin-xt

XTnodes.com?

Don't believe the hype!

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