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Topic: (Noob Question) Are prebuilt PCS good starter altcoin miners? (Read 90 times)

newbie
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I just started mining 4-5 days ago, on my pc. Its a prebuilt, i7-8700k, 1080ti blower style. It hasn't been very efficient. I don't think i have it set up properly. Either that or my system is dying. I use nicehash and mine with phoenix/daggerhashimoto. It was outputting far more money yesterday.

I would also like to take the time to explain myself, I am a noob. When it comes to PCs, and Bitcoin/Altcoin, I am not a noob. I only buy prebuilt PCs from one company, Ibuypower. I am fully capable of building a pc. I've unbuilt them and reconstructed them, just after warranty expires.  

 My 1080ti seemed to be doing fine gaming. Even yesterday, it seemed to be doing fine mining bitcoin. But today its at 31.5 MH/s and only generating 0.05900 mBTC/24h. I have it set to mBTC/hour, yesterday I was earning $0.15-$0.20 USD/hour. Now im earning $0.09 USD/hour.

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Other than my concern over the previous paragraph, I have really been enjoying mining. I just want my pc for gaming sometimes, I cant dedicate it 24/7 to mining. I have seen prebuilts with a 3060ti, 256gb SSD 8gb ram, a Ryzen 3 3100, a motherboard that only supports 1 gpu, and a 700w power supply, for $1200. Would this be a good dedicated starter rig?



There was a 12-14 hour period yesterday when earnings were double or more if you were mining eth.  If your rig was mining 31m then and is 31m now then the reason for the drop is due to difficulty rising and that the fees paid to miners to were close to or more than quadruple normal fees due to the speed at which eth price was changing and what people were paying to have their transactions confirmed first.

Im mining 40MH/s now, because i switched to minerstat. Is that why my daily earnings dont match what im estimated to get daily in the pool? Ive been mining for about 7-8 hours and have only made 0.55$, and have an expected earnings of $1.79/day, which does not seem far of from what was happening on nicehash, even when the price was good. On minerstat, the estimated earnings has been $2.25-$3.10/day.
newbie
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pre built rigs at the correct price are fine.

My question to you is what power setting are you using for that 1080ti


you do not need high core setting.


+50       core
+1000    ram
  180     watts

should be good for you

I had a really good deal on omen 2 card 1080ti rigs back in 2018.   2k after coupons.

In msi afterburner i had it at 100% on Nicehash, it never effected my profit like turning the memory clock up to +1000. Idk how to change the watts. I switched to minerstat today to try something new and my hashrate is higher than it ever was on nicehash. Nothing crazy but 40mh/s default, the only strange thing was overclocking did almost nothing, sometimes even dropped the rate. At best it would get it up to 42mh/s, which is strange.The issue i am having is the actual profits i am getting. From both nicehash, and minerstat, my actual profits seemed slower than it was estimating per day, even when the price of coins (in general) dropped. Its at about half what it estimates.
newbie
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There's nothing wrong with pre-built PCs, but for mining, usually, we built rigs with motherboard with 5 or more slots of PCIe to maximize the profits and waste less energy with cpu, memory etc
Another thing is the PSUs, usually we buy strong PSUs, to let run with maximum of 80%, and it's good to be at least Gold, because you'll have more efficiency, remember, less watts is more profit

But, you can mine with your PC, and to maximize the 1080ti you already have, put 60% os power limit, set the maximum overclock0 on memory you can, until crash or have a lot of reject shares
Use a updated miner, because they have straps option and your card can achieve 50Mhs more or less

If your motherboard have another PCIe, you can buy another GPU and mine together, check the wattage of your PSU first


About your paragraph, I don't recommend motherboards with only 1 PCIe, this is the most limit factor to maximize the profits, remember we are in a bull market, almost every card can make profits even with expensive electricity, but in a few weeks or months the market and difficulty will probably be different, and it's better to be efficient to stay on business.

Yes that was why I asked, so its more efficient to just go with a single rig than multiple single PCIE pcs? Is 700 watts bad (it would be plugged in the same room as my 800 watt everyday pc)
My 1080ti has never truly preformed as it should, even in gaming. Its always close, but never what it needs to be. It seems a little bit better now that im using "minerstat". the only thing im having issues with is the pool is generating far less than it estimates in miner stat.

What were profits like before? I think I walked into this at the peak, and every day the prices have fallen.


edit: Would it be possible to use an amd and nvidia gpu in the same rig? i guess i do have an extra slot in my current. Its just crossfire, and its only the one. The only reason i dont buy sli motherboards is because ibuypower does not sell more than 1 gpu. I want to get a true mining rig, I just cant afford much right now. I might skip over the prebuilt idea. Honestly, untill I can figure out how to get the actual money im mining, and not what seems to be half what the program promises.

Copy and pasted from my ether mine dashboard.

Workers Active / Inactive
1/0
Unpaid Balance
0.72

Estimated Earnings
1.82

Hashrate
Current
12.2 MH/s (Not true its 45)
Average
480.5 kH/s (not true its 45)
Reported
45.0 MH/s
Shares
Valid 100%
11
Stale
0
Number of stale shares submitted during the last hour.
Invalid
0
full member
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I just started mining 4-5 days ago, on my pc. Its a prebuilt, i7-8700k, 1080ti blower style. It hasn't been very efficient. I don't think i have it set up properly. Either that or my system is dying. I use nicehash and mine with phoenix/daggerhashimoto. It was outputting far more money yesterday.

I would also like to take the time to explain myself, I am a noob. When it comes to PCs, and Bitcoin/Altcoin, I am not a noob. I only buy prebuilt PCs from one company, Ibuypower. I am fully capable of building a pc. I've unbuilt them and reconstructed them, just after warranty expires.  

 My 1080ti seemed to be doing fine gaming. Even yesterday, it seemed to be doing fine mining bitcoin. But today its at 31.5 MH/s and only generating 0.05900 mBTC/24h. I have it set to mBTC/hour, yesterday I was earning $0.15-$0.20 USD/hour. Now im earning $0.09 USD/hour.

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________

Other than my concern over the previous paragraph, I have really been enjoying mining. I just want my pc for gaming sometimes, I cant dedicate it 24/7 to mining. I have seen prebuilts with a 3060ti, 256gb SSD 8gb ram, a Ryzen 3 3100, a motherboard that only supports 1 gpu, and a 700w power supply, for $1200. Would this be a good dedicated starter rig?



There was a 12-14 hour period yesterday when earnings were double or more if you were mining eth.  If your rig was mining 31m then and is 31m now then the reason for the drop is due to difficulty rising and that the fees paid to miners to were close to or more than quadruple normal fees due to the speed at which eth price was changing and what people were paying to have their transactions confirmed first.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
pre built rigs at the correct price are fine.

My question to you is what power setting are you using for that 1080ti


you do not need high core setting.


+50       core
+1000    ram
  180     watts

should be good for you

I had a really good deal on omen 2 card 1080ti rigs back in 2018.   2k after coupons.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1408
There's nothing wrong with pre-built PCs, but for mining, usually, we built rigs with motherboard with 5 or more slots of PCIe to maximize the profits and waste less energy with cpu, memory etc
Another thing is the PSUs, usually we buy strong PSUs, to let run with maximum of 80%, and it's good to be at least Gold, because you'll have more efficiency, remember, less watts is more profit

But, you can mine with your PC, and to maximize the 1080ti you already have, put 60% os power limit, set the maximum overclock0 on memory you can, until crash or have a lot of reject shares
Use a updated miner, because they have straps option and your card can achieve 50Mhs more or less

If your motherboard have another PCIe, you can buy another GPU and mine together, check the wattage of your PSU first


About your paragraph, I don't recommend motherboards with only 1 PCIe, this is the most limit factor to maximize the profits, remember we are in a bull market, almost every card can make profits even with expensive electricity, but in a few weeks or months the market and difficulty will probably be different, and it's better to be efficient to stay on business.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
If anyone actually reads this, I would also be interested in learning about overclocking/underclocking. I put my 1080ti to +1000 memory clock, and it seemed stable but, im afraid to leave it on for too long. I usually just use MSI afterburner to turn up my fan speeds. The memory clock boosts it to 35.5 MH/s at +600 memory clock, and up to 39 MH/s when i boost it to +1000(mhz)
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
I just started mining 4-5 days ago, on my pc. Its a prebuilt, i7-8700k, 1080ti blower style. It hasn't been very efficient. I don't think i have it set up properly. Either that or my system is dying. I use nicehash and mine with phoenix/daggerhashimoto. It was outputting far more money yesterday.

I would also like to take the time to explain myself, I am a noob. When it comes to PCs, and Bitcoin/Altcoin, I am not a noob. I only buy prebuilt PCs from one company, Ibuypower. I am fully capable of building a pc. I've unbuilt them and reconstructed them, just after warranty expires.  

 My 1080ti seemed to be doing fine gaming. Even yesterday, it seemed to be doing fine mining bitcoin. But today its at 31.5 MH/s and only generating 0.05900 mBTC/24h. I have it set to mBTC/hour, yesterday I was earning $0.15-$0.20 USD/hour. Now im earning $0.09 USD/hour.


_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ ____________________



Other than my concern over the previous paragraph, I have really been enjoying mining. I just want my pc for gaming sometimes, I cant dedicate it 24/7 to mining. I have seen prebuilts with a 3060ti, 256gb SSD 8gb ram, a Ryzen 3 3100, a motherboard that only supports 1 gpu, and a 700w power supply, for $1200. Would this be a good dedicated starter rig?







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