Topic: Not correct news about omicron and eu stocks (Read 302 times)

Exactly, you have to have all that kind of tolerance, it is not the same to be able to endure those news chains if you don't want to hear them, this type of news chain always fudges BTC and that causes many to panic and the few who they buy BTC recklessly, they make them sell it cheap.

This means that for any field we have everything to win when it comes to being able to establish a criterion against people who bring this type of wrong news, because with knowledge you can change and have a good debate in real life so that they know well of what they are missing by believing in the tabloid news.

Op, while inflation is usually associated with increasing stocks, it's not always the case. There's a correlation, but it doesn't always work, it seems. For example, the stock market and the economy famously crashed in 2007 and 2008. It's no secret that the US played the key part in it, but if you look at the inflation rate in 2007 and 2008, it was actually quite high.
If you look at, say, S&P 500, the market already crashed pretty hard in 2008, but the inflation rate was still high. Then, of course, it crashed further in 2009, and the inflation rate dropped a lot as well, but there was still a period of time when one didn't go in line with the other.
You are correct, though, that inflation and stocks currently seem synchronized, but it doesn't mean that it's always the case, I think.

Most likely the world we will live from now on will be one where the virus keeps mutating to the point the vaccines developed against it become ineffective and new ones will need to be created, however as long as the death rate of the virus goes down with each iteration then everything is fine, the issue will come if one of those mutations increases the death rate of the virus, so far this has not been the case but it would be silly to not prepare for that scenario.

The news themselves do not seem wrong. The stock market has suffered a bull run during the after-pandemic initial recovery and now any company that shows no proof of good results is heavily dragged down by the market. Also, the SP 500 is not going down further only thanks to those few companies in the top 10 positions by marketcap. There is nothing but fear. We may not be in a bubble as such, as prices paid respond to real profit and growth, but there may be strong effects from any risk as valuations are high.

This is why scientists are in a race again to develop or maybe improve the covid vaccine that will address this variant. Some countries are already deploying their 3rd and 4th booster shots to possibly mitigate the effect of new variants. Our world is in another stage of pandemic. But with the advance technology that we have today, I believe, scientists would have better understanding of what's really going on and address it accordingly. For now, better secure the safety of your family and look for options that can sustain your financial needs.

This is something I read from other sources so this is good news, however while it is a nice thing that the chances the sickness you get by this virus is not going to be as serious, the biggest risk of this new strain is that some studies are showing that some of the vaccines are inefficient against it, and if yet another strain mutates from omicron that makes it more deadly then we could be in serous trouble, so this is a situation that needs to be monitored closely.

It's the height of irony you chastising a journalist for not making sense when your trail of conversation jumps all over the place. If you dislike CNBC so much, why are you even reading it then? There are plenty of other news sources out there. Not everyone has economics knowledge or interest in how the business environment runs, so these snippets of information might be useful to some. Here you are telling investors that if they think stocks will go lower then they shouldn't buy, which is the same level of pointless explanation you're accusing the journalist of performing. In general though, they have article quotas to meet and are happy churning out some low level content because that is their job. Get over it and seek high quality information if you want it.

We came to "omicron"... who would think it's possible to have so many covid variants?! All this became like some crazy shit show, and nobody has any idea what's really happening around! We may know what's on the table, but we definitely don't have a clue what is under!
I don't think there's any other purpose than to confuse people even more... it's what they have been doing from the start, while there's confusion around, the center of power will make a profit and secure their control, it's easier to rule over stupid people than over openminded!

Shocking how many will actually react based off these types of articles. Yet they don't even understand the purpose of why its being written, or for whom.

In every covid variant, the markets are experiencing serious declines. Bitcoin went down when the Omicron variant came out, now it's a stagnation period and then bitcoin is going up. It's always been like that before, let's see if it will be the same this time. Now the omicron variant is spreading everywhere. I hope it ends soon.

Oh man I never believed whats being said in the news article which is merely out of one thing and that’s publicity stunts. Many stocks are also manipulated just because they are being paid in full for the marketing of same. If articles started to publish free of cost then I am pretty sure they would end up in the bankrupt channel. Lolz.

Now turning towards the omicron news, it’s heartfelt that they are using the pandemic as target and making everything go crazy for the whole market.

Anyways, this new variant states nothing much but another pandemic stage which we should not be worried about but should be improvising it after two years of time.

There's now a new study about omicron variant which is a positive news for everyone.

--> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/23/omicron-cases-at-much-lower-risk-of-hospital-admission-uk-says

I think this will stabilize the market after the study. And who knows what's next as if it's not looking good for a new variant to bring the market down, will there be another variant of concern that's mutated?

That's their job, and they usually report about the latest information on the world's economic market that has an influence on the economic balance of a country. Regardless of the evidence or the truth that occurs in the field, they can manipulate it for some interests that have been arranged in such a way based on needs.

Knowledge is really not needed? it means you wrote this thread while in delirium. Rising inflation does not mean that it is allowed to drag on and accumulate, but that efforts are always made to improve it and try to find ways to rebalance the economic sector. Thinking means focusing on getting it done. Children aged 7 years do not know inflation, they just need to play and ask their parents for money to buy the toys they want.

Talking about investor mentality, then which investor characteristics are you talking about? if it's a global investor then they know better how the market works and how to be the whale that makes you sell when the price is down. Conservative investors, Moderate investors and Aggressive investors make the market game unpredictable.


I can't say the narrative they built is nonsense or not, in fact we can see it in every headline. We do not need to consume it raw. So it is your knowledge that should be more widespread and find out the truth. The news they present can be considered relevant when we know, realize and experience and are correlated with the situation that occurs. Bullshit news and the like are also of course for an interest, becoming a benchmark for an institution to control the market, prices, and the balance they have made to look for profit loopholes.

While the media is without a doubt playing with the emotions of the people at the same time they are not completely at fault with what is happening, people are in fact that scared about the omicron strain that was discovered, and this is not only because the possibility that it is more dangerous than the current strains but also because people are desperate, they do not want to go back to be on their homes and suffer through a lockdown, especially now that we were getting close to some kind of normality.

The Corona virus pandemic was created as a means of wealth transfer. Governments are borrowing vast amounts of money from the central banks, and this is inflationary. Omicron gives them an excuse to purchase another massive block  of over-priced useless pseudo-vaccines, and this will lead to increased inflation. Inflation is the only way governments van manage their current astronomical debts.

Really Omicron news has gone hyped for no reason, it is getting the media hype and causing fear in the system. Some taking advantage to sell products in the media because of unnecessary noise that articles in the media creates. It has made even the South African region to become feared that most travellers now are going away.

The moment we understand the centralized government and it's agencies including CBDC article publish what suits their interest the best for investors. Most of this articles are geared towards establishing fear amongst investors so they can manipulate their way through the stock prices and act as though it got inflated by the whales. Omnicron news has been one of the target media where this insane article keeps popping up to distract investors by dishing out fake articles.

The professional investor doesn't rely on media news or articles. We know how these media published paid content for money. I always believe in my research and the data I collected from various sources and intelligence.

Actually, media and blogs are being open to everyone so the publisher can publish their analysis, and it's your job to justify those content. You may not make a decision about your investment by seeing that news but you can use those news impact to do speculation. I think you understand what I am talking about. I won't mind about some short-term gain.

The markets are reacting very crazy to any type of Omnicron news. Basically ever since news broke about it in SA, the markets were very edgy.

Remember when the Moderna CEO said that their vaccine might not work against Omnicron? Markets tanked. Then moderna said their vaccine works again it and their stock pumped at the open.

Markets are very emotional right now. And people are getting chopped to bits especially the option traders and high leverage traders.

Simple as that, the Internet and social media allow all kind of information to move around at a very high speed, but that does not mean the information is accurate and it must be believed, so it is the responsibility of each one of us to decide what we read and whether we believe what we have read, so while the majority of what we can read on mainstream media about bitcoin is false, there is no point on getting mad about it as there is nothing we can do to stop it and the best we can do is simply to ignore it.

I do think that one might understand the fact that most of the headlines are made up by the companies to influence the decisions of the general investors therefore you cannot check their credibility for sure. What you can do is : Monitor the market yourself!! At the same time, media usually does not do a good job.

-stay out of media headlines
-recognize the FUD's
-track the market yourself
-find better places to look for financial advices rather than the CNBC itself

You can't really expect thing to be 100% on the line when it's a pandemic now therefore you should just do what you think is right and hope for the best.

I have a bias against the media, but what seems to be so particularly wrong with this? This is the typical media doing its job. It may be garbage to you, but since when did the media become so outstanding in its job? What is in this article that makes it so explicitly illogical or wrong?

To be fair, the sentiment is indeed net negative. And that's happening in the face of an inflation that is reaching more than double the maximum target as well as the danger that the new COVID-19 variant seemingly poses which result to another round of strict measures.

Only a few networks or maybe even none of these media networks today are not paid by a big crime family. Reports on TV are being screened and if their sponsors do not benefit from that news, the news will just be tossed into a garbage can. The FAKE news is just everywhere and journalists are associated with whoever pays more so saying just about anything nonsense will make sense in the end as long as the report is not going to send the right information or just FUD.

This report particularly is making people panic about the rise of omicron while also speculating the prices of DiaSorin, Just Eat Takeaway, and a petro company named Rubis. God knows but most probably Elliot Smith is associated with these 3.

That depends though, if you can see through bullshit and you know that the journalist is just spouting nonsense and you decide it without bias, it's alright to be mad or upset with these people because they've been tasked in delivering the truth but they didn't. I think that if the new COVID variant becomes more dangerous, I think that it's going to definitely affect the market as some of the people might see the variant surge as a sign of another lockdown so they might pull out their investment so they can use the money to stave off the lockdown.

Seriously OP, with the way you write I don't think you ought to be criticizing professional journalists in any way.

Uh....inflation can be due to a number of factors, and it's not clear what you mean by "assets are less supply".  That's an example of why your raging against the financial journalist who wrote this headline seems ridiculous.  In addition, you'll see statements like the one you quoted pretty much on a weekly basis.  That's just how the press summarizes economic conditions and what the stock market did in a single sentence--even if that sentence isn't entirely accurate.

Amen.  And I've already advised OP to stop flooding the Economics section with low-value threads, but he doesn't seem to be taking the hint.  A better option for him would be to post in Politics & Society or Off-Topic or, ideally, on another forum.

It's really difficult to make any sense out of what you're trying to say. Stocks do not only move up and down based on the level of inflation or interest rates of central banks. Those are part of the macro picture but do not constitute the whole of it. The world economy bounced back quite quickly after Covid but we're seeing countries like France/Germany lock down again which can create further supply chain issues and lead to more inflation. The best and only way to invest is to put money into solid companies for the long term, while forgetting about short term fluctuations. If you want to chase stocks with no earnings then do not be surprised if the bubble pops in times like these.

I know your intentions is good and pure but you should not blame to the journalists what's the negative sentiments of thearket. They are just doing there job to attract readers. Who the heck that will read there news if it only contains boring articles and too obvious news which everybody knows.

They are just making a headline that will catch readers attention using the current event and do connect the dots without solid proof. That's how freedom of speech works. It's up to the reader if they will believe it or not.

As far as crypto journalism goes? since 2017 I haven't found anyone, maybe just a couple of exceptions, but majority writes news without any verification whatsoever. CNBC? one of the worst I would say and it's going to be not good if you are investors are going to base your investments on these kind of shows. Well, it fun to watch, but to take their advise seriously? Nah, I don't think so.

I don't think no one smart enough would be basing their investment decisions on CNBC "articles". Their job isn't necessarily to spread decent information, but for the headlines and the main gist of the article just to be easily graspable for the masses so they share it on social media.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/17/european-stocks-set-to-pull-back-as-omicron-concerns-persist.html

Queto: "European stocks close lower as omicron, inflation worries weigh on sentiment"

This is now example that to be journalist you dont need to write things what making sense.
How the hell they can write even that kind of thing ??

If there is inflation it means supply of money is higher and assets are less supply even every f..7 year old kids will know that inflation makes prices of the assets going higher.
How can you even say something like this ...this proofes once again the knowledge and proper things are really not needed.

And those investors....who have worries about inflation they think stock will go lower ....if they have that fear they shouldnt be investing anywhere if they cant even undetstood simple things about how it all works.

Would be funny to read if there will be low supply of money lol...and deflation they will ouuu...stocks will go higher now.

Im sure this place about finances and money one of the cnbc workers or other wall street shills will read my topic shame on them.

We all have just one question now:
Are they write on publick website this kind of funny nonsense on purpose or they really have no clue about how the fundamentals of the markets works.

Merits for good one tnx brothers and sisters