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Since the forum went down, or roughly shortly after then, I haven't been getting email notifications for PMs which I always got into my junk. Has this stopped for anyone else or were they turned off?

Weird. I've just now started receiving them again. I also just got two for reports which I've never had before.
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( alas, no-go on the example URL above - seems to validate before allowing, too; https://i.imgur.com/KVaPSK2.png - TheButterZone might have better luck with his specific URL, though )
Doubt it, my feed is the "everything on bitcointalk" feed https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10816673
Yeah, probably won't get very far, then.  I can't help but wonder if there isn't a better way for you to get what you need.  Personally I think I'd go batty if I'd monitored the entire forum Smiley

I was going to point you here (I guess technically I still am), but then it started throwing quota errors: https://feedsanitizer.appspot.com/

You could frankenstein something together with wget+tidy+a lightweight server on your own machine, I suppose Wink
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( alas, no-go on the example URL above - seems to validate before allowing, too; https://i.imgur.com/KVaPSK2.png - TheButterZone might have better luck with his specific URL, though )

Doubt it, my feed is the "everything on bitcointalk" feed https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10816673
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( alas, no-go on the example URL above - seems to validate before allowing, too; https://i.imgur.com/KVaPSK2.png - TheButterZone might have better luck with his specific URL, though )
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I didnt find an extension about validation. Only an extension that adds another feedreader to thunderbird. Maybe it works with this reader instead the original one. It would be still in thunderbird: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/bamboo-feed-reader
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Yes, when adding.

To clarify a bit:
When you add a feed to ThunderBird it will attempt to validate it first.  If it fails the validation, it simply will not let you add that feed.  Even if you know that it's a feed that normally does validate, but doesn't validate at that particular instance in time for whatever reason (site down or whatever).  This has been a long-standing annoyance with ThunderBird's handling of adding feeds.

You might wonder what happens if a feed that has already been added, suddenly no longer validates - it will throw an error in the status bar about it, and ignore the feed.  Once it validates again, feed entries are once again parsed.
This can lead to a situation where e.g. there are 4 new posts, and the latest post causes the feed not to validate, all 4 of those posts being 'lost' and however many posts are required before that particular post is dropped off the end of the feed having to be listed before it parses the feed entries again.

Technically, this is an SMF issue.  Practically, this is a ThunderBird issue.  Realistically, this is an end-user issue as neither of the aforementioned are likely to be addressed any time soon..use a different feed reader Smiley (or an older version of ThunderBird, I guess).



Example, the Hebrew forum section right now:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=100
Code:
Error: not well-formed
Source File: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=95.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=100
Line: 127, Column: 278
Source Code:
   <![CDATA[פורומים ואתרי מסחר ישראלים בדרק נט עם תשלו]]>
It specifically complains about the ending of that - "" .. it's expecting that to end with a semicolon, as a numeric character reference.  The forum chops it by output character, rather than input character, and so the feed fails.
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I was able to set things up how you described it. It works fine. Im amazed how many new threads i missed before since i only got occassionally an email for a new thread before. Now i even have to disable some forum notifications. Smiley

How do you get the feed(s) to validate?

When do you have a problem? When adding the feed? I did not have a problem when i did that. So the only explaination i see is that i did not try to add a feed with foreign characters or that the feed did not contain such signs when i added it.

You might want to search for Thunderbird extensions. Maybe there is one that fixes this. Extensions for firefox and thunderbird are there for practically everything. So i wouldnt be surprised when there is one.

Yes, when adding. The only fix I can find is reverting to an earlier TB version.
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I was able to set things up how you described it. It works fine. Im amazed how many new threads i missed before since i only got occassionally an email for a new thread before. Now i even have to disable some forum notifications. Smiley

How do you get the feed(s) to validate?

When do you have a problem? When adding the feed? I did not have a problem when i did that. So the only explaination i see is that i did not try to add a feed with foreign characters or that the feed did not contain such signs when i added it.

You might want to search for Thunderbird extensions. Maybe there is one that fixes this. Extensions for firefox and thunderbird are there for practically everything. So i wouldnt be surprised when there is one.
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Yeah, the others won't either. Damn foreign characters. LOL
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How do you get the feed(s) to validate?
Unfortunately, if the feed doesn't validate, there's not much you can do about it - it would be an error in SMF's feed output.

You can, however, try and see if any of the alternate feed formats does happen to validate.  Instead of type=rss, try type=rdf and/or type=rss2 and/or type=atom.  Usually though if one doesn't validate, the others won't either.

If none of that works, you'd have to see if a different RSS reader is less strict, and use that instead.  ThunderBird's just an example of one that works well for my needs - there's plenty of others Smiley
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I was able to set things up how you described it. It works fine. Im amazed how many new threads i missed before since i only got occassionally an email for a new thread before. Now i even have to disable some forum notifications. Smiley

How do you get the feed(s) to validate?
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Can you explain how to handle it? Im using FF 35.0.1 and TB. Normally i would get emails notifying me about new posts. How to use the feed to get informed? (I never used feeds yet.)

Presuming TB means ThunderBird:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs

All the bits about copying a link address don't apply - the only feed advertised is for the main forum index.  Just take the forum section of interest, e.g. this one, Meta, and copy its URL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
Then append ;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10 at the end, to get:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10

Use that link in the Feed Subscriptions dialog.  sa=news means (in this context) only list new threads, and limit=10 means at most 10 threads will be returned by the server.  If it's a high volume forum section, consider increasing that.

One of the nice things is that you can make sub-folders in ThunderBird and put separate subscriptions in separate folders.  That way if you're using e.g. Unread/Compact folder views, you get a nice categorization of the new threads, without having to set up a filter based on content.  Additionally, with RSS in ThunderBird, you can choose to either get a summary (first paragraph or so of the post), or just view the link in ThunderBird's internal browser directly.  Note that if you're using an ad blocker in FireFox, you'll want to check if it - or a similar ad blocker - is available for ThunderBird.  There are also quite a few RSS addons for FireFox itself, but I can't say I've ever used those.

I was able to set things up how you described it. It works fine. Im amazed how many new threads i missed before since i only got occassionally an email for a new thread before. Now i even have to disable some forum notifications. Smiley

thanks!
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Yeah, that's one down side of ThunderBird as an RSS reader - it's absolutely anal retentive about a feed validating before it bothers with it.  Mind you, SMF should spit out feed that validate, so it's technically an SMF problem.  But given how graciously browsers handle all sorts of malformed syntax, you'd think an RSS parser would have no problem dealing with most issues; especially the one that's actually breaking it in your case.

Most of those are going to be in local subforums as SMF tries to format unicode.  If you can't really read those local languages, try subscribing only to the sections you are interested in, rather than the whole site.

Yeah. I wanted a master feed so I could detect duplicate threads for easy reporting.
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Yeah, that's one down side of ThunderBird as an RSS reader - it's absolutely anal retentive about a feed validating before it bothers with it.  Mind you, SMF should spit out feed that validate, so it's technically an SMF problem.  But given how graciously browsers handle all sorts of malformed syntax, you'd think an RSS parser would have no problem dealing with most issues; especially the one that's actually breaking it in your case.

Most of those are going to be in local subforums as SMF tries to format unicode.  If you can't really read those local languages, try subscribing only to the sections you are interested in, rather than the whole site.
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Are you sure you linked your account with your email correctly? I linked my account with my Gmail and it's always been sending me email notifications.

Wasn't talking about email notifications. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs
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Are you sure you linked your account with your email correctly? I linked my account with my Gmail and it's always been sending me email notifications.
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Can you explain how to handle it? Im using FF 35.0.1 and TB. Normally i would get emails notifying me about new posts. How to use the feed to get informed? (I never used feeds yet.)

Presuming TB means ThunderBird:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs

All the bits about copying a link address don't apply - the only feed advertised is for the main forum index.  Just take the forum section of interest, e.g. this one, Meta, and copy its URL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
Then append ;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10 at the end, to get:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10

Use that link in the Feed Subscriptions dialog.  sa=news means (in this context) only list new threads, and limit=10 means at most 10 threads will be returned by the server.  If it's a high volume forum section, consider increasing that.

One of the nice things is that you can make sub-folders in ThunderBird and put separate subscriptions in separate folders.  That way if you're using e.g. Unread/Compact folder views, you get a nice categorization of the new threads, without having to set up a filter based on content.  Additionally, with RSS in ThunderBird, you can choose to either get a summary (first paragraph or so of the post), or just view the link in ThunderBird's internal browser directly.  Note that if you're using an ad blocker in FireFox, you'll want to check if it - or a similar ad blocker - is available for ThunderBird.  There are also quite a few RSS addons for FireFox itself, but I can't say I've ever used those.

Thank you for the explaination!
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Can you explain how to handle it? Im using FF 35.0.1 and TB. Normally i would get emails notifying me about new posts. How to use the feed to get informed? (I never used feeds yet.)

Presuming TB means ThunderBird:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs

All the bits about copying a link address don't apply - the only feed advertised is for the main forum index.  Just take the forum section of interest, e.g. this one, Meta, and copy its URL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
Then append ;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10 at the end, to get:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10

Use that link in the Feed Subscriptions dialog.  sa=news means (in this context) only list new threads, and limit=10 means at most 10 threads will be returned by the server.  If it's a high volume forum section, consider increasing that.

One of the nice things is that you can make sub-folders in ThunderBird and put separate subscriptions in separate folders.  That way if you're using e.g. Unread/Compact folder views, you get a nice categorization of the new threads, without having to set up a filter based on content.  Additionally, with RSS in ThunderBird, you can choose to either get a summary (first paragraph or so of the post), or just view the link in ThunderBird's internal browser directly.  Note that if you're using an ad blocker in FireFox, you'll want to check if it - or a similar ad blocker - is available for ThunderBird.  There are also quite a few RSS addons for FireFox itself, but I can't say I've ever used those.
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But it doesnt work fully perfect for subforums i marked to get notifications for new threads
If possible, try the feeds.  They've been behaving pretty well for me so far.
except for the Russian sub-forum, as somebody posted a thread there with the title ending in "&#" - which broke the feed's validity

Can you explain how to handle it? Im using FF 35.0.1 and TB. Normally i would get emails notifying me about new posts. How to use the feed to get informed? (I never used feeds yet.)
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But it doesnt work fully perfect for subforums i marked to get notifications for new threads
If possible, try the feeds.  They've been behaving pretty well for me so far.
except for the Russian sub-forum, as somebody posted a thread there with the title ending in "&#" - which broke the feed's validity
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So whats the problem now? For me its that i get nearly all emails. Especially for notifications for threads i enabled notification for work correct all the time. But it doesnt work fully perfect for subforums i marked to get notifications for new threads. I get some, maybe most, but not all. And thats a bit strange.
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after a few emails back and forth with the outlook/hotmail people there is no issue on there side, i think it has something to do with BCF
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Yep, same problem here.
Just to note, the above reply was with regard to forum section subscriptions, rather than private messages.  Topics - one about subscriptions and one about private messages - got merged.
As for hotmail - I'm not using it, so that's not the issue in my case.
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Contact hotmail and ask them why they've stopped accepting the mails.
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i dont want to have to use my gmail Sad
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havnt had a email since the 28th
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i havnt gotten 1 email since the 28th have i done something wrong?

Are you using hotmail? There's a few of us that seemingly stopped getting them on the 28th for some reason.
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 i havnt gotten 1 email since the 28th have i done something wrong?
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Yep, same problem here.

At this point I'm thinking I'll just get rid of my section subscriptions, and instead use the RSS, e.g.:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0;type=rss;action=.xml;sa=news&limit=10

There's an SMF discussion thread with all the various flags here: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=25009

If for some reason that's not working out either, I'll just try writing my own lazy parser using the wap2 output as a basis, e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0;wap2
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I marked a couple of subforums so that i get an email for new posts. Unfortunately this only works occassionally. I only get emails for some new posts.

Does anyone experience the same problem? Is there a solution? Its not cool if you want to get informed of new developments but you only find out after everything is over.
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check in SPAM folder...

for example... it is happen to me with GMAIL...

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nope nothing no notification emails
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I am getting notifications of replies to my threads though. I received an email 2 days ago though. The forum has been down for few hours in the past week but it's working fine with regards to the notifications.
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i just cleared my hotmail blocklist hopefully it works now
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It seems that hotmail.com is silently dropping forum emails for some reason, even though they say via SMTP that they're accepting the emails. You should complain to them.

I'm using a hotmail and I still get them fine.

I'm using hotmail too and working fine

I'm still received a notif about PM
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It seems that hotmail.com is silently dropping forum emails for some reason, even though they say via SMTP that they're accepting the emails. You should complain to them.

I'm using a hotmail and I still get them fine.
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Look at the post directly above you:

It seems that hotmail.com is silently dropping forum emails for some reason, even though they say via SMTP that they're accepting the emails. You should complain to them.
The issue is with hotmail as they are not delivering emails from the forum
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no issues here - self hosted tho.
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It seems that hotmail.com is silently dropping forum emails for some reason, even though they say via SMTP that they're accepting the emails. You should complain to them.
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Bottom option. You'll also need to have an email entered here.

You should put OPs UID instead of yours LOL: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rikrikrik-421599

and they also asked about forum replies...

Click the notify link at the top and bottom of each topic and forum you want emails for.
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Bottom option. You'll also need to have an email entered here.
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doesnt work at all for me
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can someone tell me how i can get emails when someone replies to a forum i have posted on or sent me a message?
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I've had exactly 20 PMs too since the last notification. Weird.
You only had 20 PMs since the 28th? My last PM from the 28th was 13 pages ago in my inbox. Granted I did have one post of mine deleted (for replying to an off topic post by a scammer about me) but even if that PM was not received then it would still be on the same page.

I have also not received any notifications between the 28th and now, however I luckily have notifications turned off so this is expected.
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I usually don't get any messages or PMs, but it seems fine to me.
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I'm getting email notifications for my custom domain email acc:


Also I'm getting notifications for my gmail acc:

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I've had exactly 20 PMs too since the last notification. Weird.
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Last e-mail was on the 28th January for me, too. I got 20 PM's since then, no e-mail notification though.

Same applies to local report e-mail notifications.
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My last notification was actually on the 28th but haven't received any since, though theymos told me the forum is sending them so I don't know what's happening.

I don't get e-mail notifications, too. I didn't notice until you open this thread.

Did you get them before?
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I don't get e-mail notifications, too. I didn't notice until you open this thread.
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The last I recieved one seems to be the 24th of Jan.

Unfortunately, it's still working for me.

Ha, you can turn it off in your settings.
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Unfortunately, it's still working for me.
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Since the forum went down, or roughly shortly after then, I haven't been getting email notifications for PMs which I always got into my junk. Has this stopped for anyone else or were they turned off?

Just checked my email, the latest email I have received from this forum that I have received personal message is yesterday.
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Since the forum went down, or roughly shortly after then, I haven't been getting email notifications for PMs which I always got into my junk. Has this stopped for anyone else or were they turned off?
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