[not so] Good Guy Gox- we (probably don't) owe them some sort of apology?

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Quote from: guybrushthreepwood on February 10, 2014, 08:35:14 AM

It was gox's fault on so many levels.

Ppl need to go to GOX's office to get their coins back. I meant they blame the protocol causing their system to not be able to verify tx right? well how about we sit next to them and verify it then? No more excuse and BS?

I swear that POS would get smacked in the face if he tried to lie face to face.

Somebody already flew all the way to Japan from Aus to try get their coins back. Didn't work.

Bring a gun.

Bring a Yakuza with a gun. Getting a gun in and out of Australia and Japan customs would be mighty hard. And Interpol obviously doesn't give a fuck, so they won't be going on bitcoiners' behalf.

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Quote from: jubalix on February 10, 2014, 08:50:34 AM

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

I'm extremely pissed because i believe core developers have already contacted Marks prior to him publish this fcking press. Yet he still told lies and not completely truth. What is his intention? Ofcourse for inside trading....

yeah your right and this issue has already been addressed in detail yesterday/day before in public and people still believe GOX, those weak hands deserve to be striped of their coins, and have been

There's a release by one of the Bitcoin devs that explained what happend. Gox failed to act. 100% a fult on their end.

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Sorry, but it's really time for Gox to die. Those who've run Gox should close down the company and pay back all customers, and find something else to do in life.

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:38:16 AM

Quote from: guybrushthreepwood on February 10, 2014, 08:35:14 AM

It was gox's fault on so many levels.

Ppl need to go to GOX's office to get their coins back. I meant they blame the protocol causing their system to not be able to verify tx right? well how about we sit next to them and verify it then? No more excuse and BS?

I swear that POS would get smacked in the face if he tried to lie face to face.

Somebody already flew all the way to Japan from Aus to try get their coins back. Didn't work.

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:12:36 AM

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:04:25 AM

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:58:21 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

I'm extremely pissed because i believe core developers have already contacted Marks prior to him publish this fcking press. Yet he still told lies and not completely truth. What is his intention? Ofcourse for inside trading....

yeah your right and this issue has already been addressed in detail yesterday/day before in public and people still believe GOX, those weak hands deserve to be striped of their coins, and have been

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I'll buy gbtc for 5% rbtc

How would I even get them to you?

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 08:11:03 AM

Quote from: Kazimir on February 10, 2014, 08:08:14 AM

Response from gmaxwell, where he explains this is entirely on MtGox, and no issue of concern for Bitcoin: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

Yeah I just read through it, I hadn't seen it before. Seems like gox is in the wrong about this. Although I do hope this issue gets corrected sometime in the future, it seems like this could be pretty confusing for 3rd party escrow services where one's transaction id is supposed to be used to track a payment. (Although I suppose you could just look at the receiving address as well).

Trust only the txid of confirmed transactions.

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Quote from: guybrushthreepwood on February 10, 2014, 08:35:14 AM

It was gox's fault on so many levels.

Ppl need to go to GOX's office to get their coins back. I meant they blame the protocol causing their system to not be able to verify tx right? well how about we sit next to them and verify it then? No more excuse and BS?

I swear that POS would get smacked in the face if he tried to lie face to face.

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It was gox's fault on so many levels.

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

Every time someone utters the name Gox:

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Clearly Gox lost a lot of coins due to their buggy software / dumb customer support policies so now they want the cheapest price to replace the lost coins. Withdrawals will commence when Gox have restocked.

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 08:16:57 AM

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 08:08:53 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:04:25 AM

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

I'm extremely pissed because i believe core developers have already contacted Marks prior to him publish this fcking press. Yet he still told lies and not completely truth. What is his intention? Ofcourse for inside trading....

Well I don't know if he's insider trading or just trying to pretend like he didn't make a mistake, but it's pretty revealing that Mike says this has been known about for years. It boggles the mind to think that if this is a known property, why Gox hasn't corrected this ages ago.

And I have a solid amount of Coin on GOX, so I'm really hoping that it's still there- whenever they reopen.

So do i, i still waiting to withdraw my coins.

Someone already explained this might be due to Gox wallet when Mark took down txt data page. He said its because Mark use a custom wallet based on old version. So i believe Gox reached out to them for help. Yet he still told this BS.

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:12:36 AM

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:04:25 AM

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

I'm extremely pissed because i believe core developers have already contacted Marks prior to him publish this fcking press. Yet he still told lies and not completely truth. What is his intention? Ofcourse for inside trading....

Well I don't know if he's insider trading or just trying to pretend like he didn't make a mistake, but it's pretty revealing that Mike says this has been known about for years. It boggles the mind to think that if this is a known property, why Gox hasn't corrected this ages ago.

And I have a solid amount of Coin on GOX, so I'm really hoping that it's still there- whenever they reopen.

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 08:08:53 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:04:25 AM

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:58:21 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

I'm extremely pissed because i believe core developers have already contacted Marks prior to him publish this fcking press. Yet he still told lies and not completely truth. What is his intention? Ofcourse for inside trading....

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Quote from: Kazimir on February 10, 2014, 08:08:14 AM

Response from gmaxwell, where he explains this is entirely on MtGox, and no issue of concern for Bitcoin: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

Yeah I just read through it, I hadn't seen it before. Seems like gox is in the wrong about this. Although I do hope this issue gets corrected sometime in the future, it seems like this could be pretty confusing for 3rd party escrow services where one's transaction id is supposed to be used to track a payment. (Although I suppose you could just look at the receiving address as well).

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 08:04:25 AM

Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:58:21 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

Well if I was over the top (probably yes) I apologise even though you probably don't care, but if someone is wrong- It wouldn't kill a person to point it out politely.

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Response from gmaxwell, where he explains this is entirely on MtGox, and no issue of concern for Bitcoin: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

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The sad thing now is that Gox have created FUD about Bitcoin which the mainstream media, alt-coin pumpers, and CB shills will repeat for the rest of the year.

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:58:21 AM

Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

Not even a word of admitting to be corrected...... Well who give a shit about idiots like you.

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EDIT: Reading the Mike Hearn's comment about it now. *SORRY* I'm not on top of every piece of breaking news every single second. FYI: The subject line did have a fucking QUESTION MARK at the end of it. Jesus Christ if I got my facts wrong, it's enough to say I'm wrong and point it out. As for being a GOX supporter, I've been as critical of them as anyone else, just search my post history. I made this post because if I was WRONG about being so critical of them then I wanted to APOLOGISE. AKA, COMMON DECENCY, not TROLLING.

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mcxNOW (BTC/Alt exchange) statement about the Mtgox press release. "...stupidity on mtgox part..."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xih5d/mcxnow_btcalt_exchange_statement_about_the_mtgox/

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:44:47 AM

Well, considering all the gox-bashing that everyone has indulged in, we owe them a bit of an apology with this issue. It seems they may be really right and that this is a problem with the protocol that needs to be fixed. We should give them at least a couple kudos for figuring this out.

The market might have panicked (Good lord I wish I had buy orders at $200 on BTC-E!) but the bitcoin blockchain forking a few months back was a greater challenge then what we are facing right now. The current problem seems to affect the ability to track a transactions, which although is very important, does not at it's base invalidate the bitcoin blockchain itself.

So, thanks Gox, for figuring this out. People might be pissed at you for various reasons, but you're a good guy in my eyes.

um no this has been known about for ages, gox is just running a bad version and fudged the whole market, esp some idiot on btce.

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Can we just seriously take Gox out back and administer the coup de grace?

They have been instrumental in causing instability for years now.

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Quote from: seriouscoin on February 10, 2014, 07:50:21 AM

Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

You know what seriouscoin- fuck you. I'm not spreading FUD and considering the massive hate campaign against GOX for everything that goes wrong, I was trying to add a bit of common decency to this place. You want Gox to fail overnight? Fine- watch hundreds of thousands of bitcoin and tens of millions of dollars disappear all at once and bitcoin to completely collapse. Until someone actually builds, and grows an exchange to be a legitimate successor to gox, we still need them.

The FUD is in making this place a complete fucking troll hole where people like you sit in their basement armchairs and slither in their own shitty opinions that pop out like diarrhea without any respect to common decency.

If you disagree, you could be polite about it for fucks sake.

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Exactly! no other exchange has this problem so it is Gox's fault and nobody elses. You'd think being the dominant exchange for so long they'd actually put some effort into maintaining that position especially after the massive market growth in cryptocurrency. MtGox needs to die, they've been a terrible exchange for as long as I've known about bitcoin

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Quote from: bitpop on February 10, 2014, 07:52:55 AM

I think he's trolling but if not, Fuck you op

No hes not trolling. OP has been known to be GOX supporter. Hes a fcking idiot.
Sadly noobs will listen to idiots like him.

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:44:47 AM

Well, considering all the gox-bashing that everyone has indulged in, we owe them a bit of an apology with this issue.

Not quite. They owe the community (and especially their customers) an apology, for blaming their own incorrect processing of Bitcoin transactions on a so-called vulnerability in the protocol Angry

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From what I understand, Gox is using old, custom software that checks transactions using the transaction id, whilst bitcoin-qt as of quite a while ago has used other parameters to confirm transaction. So this is a case of Gox not keeping their software up-to-date... kind of like not keeping your OS up-to-date, guess what happens?

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Quote from: crazy_rabbit on February 10, 2014, 07:44:47 AM

Well, considering all the gox-bashing that everyone has indulged in, we owe them a bit of an apology with this issue. It seems they may be really right and that this is a problem with the protocol that needs to be fixed. We should give them at least a couple kudos for figuring this out.

The market might have panicked (Good lord I wish I had buy orders at $200 on BTC-E!) but the bitcoin blockchain forking a few months back was a greater challenge then what we are facing right now. The current problem seems to affect the ability to track a transactions, which although is very important, does not at it's base invalidate the bitcoin blockchain itself.

So, thanks Gox, for figuring this out. People might be pissed at you for various reasons, but you're a good guy in my eyes.

It's not a problem with the protocol, it's a problem with the custom software Gox created and uses. Now they're trying to shift the blame to protect themselves and it doesn't matter to them if this negatively affects Bitcoin as a whole (and it probably will, since mainstream media will just copy/paste the press release from Gox).

MtGox is a tumor in the Bitcoin ecosystem and it needs to be removed.

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Hey idiot, the "problem " isnt new. Its already been discussed and decided of not changing the protocol but the wallet software to handle it.

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/

Stupid ass like you that makes Gox survive today to FUD all the newbies

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Well, considering all the gox-bashing that everyone has indulged in, we owe them a bit of an apology with this issue. It seems they may be really right and that this is a problem with the protocol that needs to be fixed. We should give them at least a couple kudos for figuring this out.

The market might have panicked (Good lord I wish I had buy orders at $200 on BTC-E!) but the bitcoin blockchain forking a few months back was a greater challenge then what we are facing right now. The current problem seems to affect the ability to track a transactions, which although is very important, does not at it's base invalidate the bitcoin blockchain itself.

So, thanks Gox, for figuring this out. People might be pissed at you for various reasons, but you're a good guy in my eyes.

EDIT: Thanks bitcointalk for the mini-shit storm for being wrong about something. Love the encouragement and support. Really fantastic.

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